Was it HOLLYWOOD or Streaming that KILLED the Cinema EXPERIENCE?
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Hollywood killed their Golden Goose for "The Message".
They didn't just kill it, they axe murdered it and broadcast it in 4k live and danced around gleefully bathed in it's blood.
@@rustymustard7798 Don't forget that they then proceeded to blame "TOXIC FANDOM".
It was over 10 years ago that I saw the decline and dropped all hollywood and hollywood adjacent television/streaming/movies. Been clean for over a decade now. After so long free of addiction, I simply can't see myself ever going back.
Kaparot.
@@MsOpportunity68 I didn't forget, it just takes too long to mention all the scumbag things they do, we'd be here for days lol.
As it turns out, when there's nothing good to watch at the theater I don't go there and spend money.
I think I've seen 5 movies at the theater in the last decade.
That’s 4 movies too many (Top Gun:Maverick was the last normal movie I went to the theater to see)
last 2 movies I saw in the cinema are.... Dune part 1 and then 2 some yrs later!wanted to watch Avatar 2, but the price for a ticket alone was about 34 dollars I think!
I haven't been in about 25 years now, by the end of the 90's it was pretty much over for me, more movies were just shallow explosion porn trash or Adam Sandler making stupid noises. CGI killed movies for me, they overused it, relied on it so much that they thought it could replace plot, story, good characters and acting and that's what they did. Stunts and location scenes aren't real anymore, 'actors' are like mannequins that can talk and wear motion trackers when they're not hating on their audience. Like what's the point?
Want to watch a real BANGER of a movie the likes of will never exist again? Go watch Sean Connery in Zardoz and thank me later, or blame me for ruining modern media for you lol.
Or at least watch one of the best scenes in cinema IMO, the opening of the movie.
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Same thing here. The cheapest ticket here is 9€ and it goes up to 14-16€, I can't justify spending more than 50-60€ a year on going to the movies. I still calculate in the old currency we used before the Euro and 50-60€ is already 350-400 frcs, you could buy a good TV with a VHS player with that kind of money back then. Besides, the released movies are of no interest to me 85-90% of the time.
My last movies in theater. - ROTJ 40th - The Northman. After that can't really remember other than a couple retro rereleases Labyrinth, Breakfast Club.
Don't forget the ridiculous prices.
26 Canadian for large popcorn and pop
@@Mattokishi I miss the days of cheap Tuesday movies when I could see a movie for $8.
P.S. I see your Zeon avatar. Did you get a chance to see the Seed Freedom movie in a theater? My local theater didn't have a showing because the Canadian theater monopoly sucks.
The prices would be less painful were the films consistently worth watching.
My nearest cinema started doing £5 tickets. I been twice recently just cause it was raining.
in Poland when you go on a date (2 person) for 2 tickets and 2x popcorn and cola, you pay 1/43 of your net average monthly income
There's a theater where I live that plays old movies for super cheap. They recently did a Lord of the Rings marathon, the extended editions, for $18 dollars. They also have a chalkboard in the lobby where people can write down the names of movies they want to see. It's badass. I saw the original Star Wars, The Return of the Jedi, The Last Unicorn, it's been awesome.
Most people are also going to be more concerned about paying for overpriced gorceries rather than some cinema.
Exactly.
When basic necessities are getting more expensive, people need to start making cuts. And the first thing that gets cut are luxuries like entertainment.
My theater is showing old movies this year (Alien, The Crow, LOTR, studio ghibli films). It was cool seeing Alien since I never got to see it in the theater. Otherwise I would never go.
probably the smartest move I'd actually pay to go see older movies in the theater
Man, I wouldn't mind seeing The Mummy, Commando, or Pee Wee's Big Adventure on the big screen.
I was saying five years ago that cinemas should start doing this. The new movies aren't holding up, but there is a lot of nostalgia for older movies from before the era of woke. It'll draw in a crowd of nostalgia seekers, but it'll also draw in parents wanting to share that nostalgia with their kids.
Their budgets are insane. 100-150 million for a comedy such as Fall Guy is obscene, comedies used to cost $10-20 million about 10-15 years ago, nowadays most movies don't cost less than 100, usually 200 or 200-400 million including marketing. There is no justification for such a huge spike when the quality hasn't moved all that much. They need to cut the fat in production and they'll be seeing better profits.
It is baffling that Hollywood spends so much money when foreign films cost a fraction of the standard Hollywood budget and still look as good, if not better. Smaller budgets also makes filmmakers learn how to work within limits, which (oddly enough) produces better films. When you can't blow $100M on CGI, you actually have to learn how to make interesting movies with good writing, realistic acting and engrossing cinematography.
Costs make no sense. On a generation willing to spend 12$ for movie, drink and popcorn, no one wants to spend FORTY for the same experience.
It was both but mostly the woke nonsense.
I doubt that the 2 month difference between the theatrical release and the streaming release can justify cinemas dying, when before streaming you could watch recent releases on TV 6 months after the theatrical release. That 4 months difference between streaming and cable tv is not the issue, it's Hollywood releasing only crap that killed the cinema experience.
Not entirely.. But not everyone rushes that first weekend.. I mean if you miss it the first month? Do I pay more to see it in the theater.. Or just Wait those 2 weeks to see it at home? Or doesn't help the films are mostly awful as well
The cinema is an experience, not just the movie itself.
@@inyobase127 For some people. For most of middle America it's just a place with a slightly bigger screen and hopefully better audio. That's it. Unless you're seeing IMAX or 3D or something like that general Cinema going isn't that special I hate to say You definitely don't have to put up with stupid kids and the stupider adults that brought them..
@@inyobase127 Yeah, an awful experience. I just want to see a movie, not some faux "communal" experience. What do I get out of watching the movie with a room full of obnoxious strangers I'd probably hate if I had to spend more than 10 minutes talking to them? Once the movie's over, I don't stand around talking with random strangers about it. I just get up and go home, and most of them do too. I guess the snacks would be good, if they didn't cost an arm and a leg. Honestly, I've never understood the whole "the movie theater is an experience" idea. Like, sure, so is going to the grocery store. That doesn't mean it's one I'm going to miss if there was a more convenient (and cheaper) way to get the end product.
I'll tell you the biggest reason I personally don't go to the cinema as much anymore. The price of tickets has increased almost tenfold in my lifetime while my income has not. Period. The state of the movie industry is just icing on the cake.
I don't watch anything new anymore. The problem I have with this topic is it's not Hollywood that's to blame, it's the people that continue to provide them business. If everyone that hated "The Message" crowd were to stop watching movies for a period of just 2 years, literally every studio would go out of business. This would then create new studios who would then make completely different content. But everyone insists on watching every new thing and hating Hollywood for doing what Hollywood is going to do. It'd be like saying "I hate McDonald's, their food used to be good but now is trash!" Then come to me every single week and tell me about your latest experience at McDonald's... why are you still eating there?????
My theater is showing Studio Ghibli movies this summer. Limited times but I’m taking my grandchildren to see my favorites on the big screen. Spirited Away, How’s Moving Castle, Kiki’s Delivery Service. So excited for that.
when your entertainment industry has destroyed the viewer's trust in a time where everyone is cutting their budgets, yeah, movies are gonna bomb.
It was those in charge who became too greedy.
Thi end of arcades was a similar phenomenom. A lot of the drive of the arcades was that games came first on the arcades and the home console ports were inferior. Then in was undermined by the 5th gen consoles offering near-perfect arcade ports and then 6th gen consoles offering superior quality games, with extra game modes unsuitable for arcades, that came out simustaneously with the arcades. However arcades died quicker because of expensive hardware costs with each arcade machines.
Movies nowadays have near the same quality at home as it does at the theater, depending mostly on how good your soundproofing and sound hardware are, and streaming broke the cost barrier, sending a handful movies to theaters is less costly than pressing hundreds of thousands of blu-rays, but not less costly than uploading it to a streaming platform.
The arcade decline, honestly, was a completely different situation to what theaters are going through. For one, the decline for arcades started well before 5th and 6th generation consoles came out. For one, it was a major change in the industry away from arcade development towards a home focused approach. Why spend the time and money developing a game for arcades, only to have to recreate the game all over again for home ports when it was more cost effective to develop directly for home consoles? At the time, people were always more willing to make a one time purchase for a game rather than spending an ever increasing amount for one go at the same game in an arcade. Add to that the rise of more independent developers in later years, where it was far easier for them to develop on already established gaming systems rather than producing their own arcade cabinets, and the home gaming industry expanded far faster than the arcade market could keep up with. That said, arcades until more recently still had one handhold they could hang onto. Games like DDR and other more physical experiences were something that until very recently could only work in an arcade due to the unique and expensive hardware they required. That's the main reason why you can still find arcades in some locals, and the majority of the games they offer are usually games that provide a physical experience rather than simply classic gaming. Unfortunately, even with things like iMax and 3D, there is very little theaters can offer that can't be at least somewhat replicated at home with better and better HDTVs available and home theater sound systems.
I saw Godzilla minus one in a rumble seat, absolutely loved it. Though it’s the only movie I’ve seen in a theatre in five years. Most movies these days are garbage, and always push “the message”
effinn amazing movie!the hospital scene in the end almost made me cry!
That's the only movie I've gone to a theater for since deadpool 2. & Godzilla Minus One is the only movie I've gone to see more than once, I went 3 times to that one.
Great film. But the release really showed how the western entertainment establishment tries to kneecap foreign films. My local theater (for a region of nearly half a million people) only had one showing per day and only a 10pm.
Theater chains pander to Hollywood while treating foreign films like garbage, and that is one of the reasons they are suffering. If theaters depended less on Hollywood (by showing more foreign films, PPV sport events, anime, etc) they would do much better.
@@fattiger6957 absolutly agree, same in my area.
@@fattiger6957they do this with Asian videogames also. I'm sure anime is next on these morons' list
I think both are killing cinema experience, Hollywood contribute by keep producing sub-par products and Streaming service by incentives "watch it later" on this platform
It took a long time for Art Museums to go from Renaissance style exhibitions to MOMA’s and now we’re seeing the twisting of movies going the same way. Under the same guise as “if you can’t appreciate the subtleties of the movie’s content, then you must not be the movie connoisseur that you claim to be”.
The answer is yes.
9:36 Nathan has a heckler. 😂
This is true that when we play old movies, we sell out. I work in theatres, pretty much every time it's a packed house.
Why show new movies at all then? Why not just show old movies and keep the theater packed?
Rent tripled over the last five years, but our wages did not. Gee, I wonder why people aren't spending as much on entertainment?
I think IMAX is closed in Ireland, a guy complained he had to watch Dune part 2 in a medium sized screen!
That's a very valid complaint.
Imax is 4k or more, regular cinema is 2k. I have better quality at home.
@@mandowarrior123 not really how IMAX works tho.
@@mandowarrior123 my local IMAX is 18k.
Cinema is going the same way as the old drive in movie parks..
There's only 2 reasons why I'd pick going to the theatre over watching at home.
1: movies where the big screen or technology really elevates the experience ( dune, avatar,...)
2: to see it before spoilers.
There's also non-movie specific occasions like a date or such.
Aside from that theatres offer a lesser experience and I'm not just talking about other people talking etc.
-The loads of adds before the movie, -the break that allows people to go to the bathroom/ get more snacks and drinks when you're completely fine, so you're pulled out of the experience.
- the obvious point of expensive tickets and snacks.
- anxiety/lack of comfort being seated next to strangers (who gets the armrest etc)
- sitting behind taller people can partially block the screen
- paying for parking + the stress of knowing the longer you stay, the pricier it gets.
There's a lot of small things that just make it a less pleasant experience, even more so for introverted people.
Cinema will always have a place, but due to technology, the experience has too often become inferior
"Crappy Popcorn"... Heresy!!
No, there is a huge difference between the theater experience and home theater. Watching a comedy or horror film in a crowd vs alone is completely different.
Guys, this is just history repeating itself. Late 90's the same controversy was happening between the theater and Blockbuster rentals. People got caught up the movie rental experience. They still came back to rejuvenate the theater. The difference this time is movie quality. If they fix that,(and reduce prices), then people will come back.
Agreed. People will miss the cinema experience
For me, it's partially the theaters fault even when a movie I want to see is in theaters, concession food is brutally expensive. There's half an hour of ads before a movie which is more on Hollywood
All through the 2010s I went to the cinema regularly with my young son (born 2007). That was entirely due to the MCU getting us into the habit, but we tried other things too. When the MCU died after Endgame, we gradually stopped going.
The movie theater in our city closed in March 😥and it was one of the few things to do in this town. Tisk!
I haven't been to a theater since 2017. The price of tickets and concessions make it unappealing. The content of the movies has been awful. And the whole experience is just so badly degraded that it isn't worth it anymore. It's not one thing that killed it. It is the conglomeration of everything.
Shad, I LOVE going to a theatre but I also like comfortability & personal space SO I go at least a week after a movie comes out AND I go during an earlier time in the day so there’s less ppl , PLUS you genuinely cannot replace, without thousands of dollars, is the GIANT screen and BOOMING audio.
3:15 Thanks Shad. I had no idea there was an old movie of Get Smart.
Apparently there were 2 movies with Don Adam.
The convenience of seeing it almost immediately on streaming is a large part of the problem. Before streaming (especially here in Australia), if you missed a film at the cinema, you would never see it again; or have to wait ages for it to become available as a re-release, or on television/video/DVD. I use "free" streaming services to watch old TV shows and movies that I was either not alive or too young to see when they first came out...so I have plenty to keep me entertained.
I recently went to see a movie in the theater for the first time in a long time, and I was shocked at how different it was from when I was a kid.
One big surprise was the very prominent ads for reruns of classic films. And not just stuff like Star Wars, I mean truly *classic* films. Like The Sound of Music. They're rerunning The Sound of Music, a movie from the 1960s, and people are paying money to see it in a theater! They must be paying for it or the theater wouldn't be putting it on.
Another problem is with all the current streaming services is, that if one want to see a multi part movie, one has to get SEVERAL streaming services, or your current one doesn't play it currently.
Therefore one has to get several streaming services which in sum is so much more expensive than a cinema.
A book, theatre,cinema or streaming the main thing that keeps a media outlet alive is the story and how it’s told the only way cinema can keep it’s foot hold is to get the good ones first
There have been a few gems, but for the most part there hasn't been a lot of cinema releases that ive been excited about seeing.
It takes a lot for me to laugh out loud these days. You have accomplished that for me today. Thank you!
I stopped going to cinema in the late 90's. Last year I wanted to go to a drive in for a date and never saw a set I wanted to watch between 3 screens. I'm certainly not paying $20 to sit and listen to rando's on their phones.
You aren't supposed to go to drive in to actually watch a film, you go to experience the original "Netflix and chill with end credits" 😂
I'm more likely to go back to the theater to watch an older movie especially if it's one I never saw in theaters, just checked the Fathom Events website to see what's coming this year and besides the usually re-release of the monthly Ghibli movie there's The Muppet Movie, The Neverending Story, Rear Window, Blazing Saddles, The 5th Element and White Christmas.
While I think streaming is playing a role in it, especially with studios often trying to push their own streaming services at the expense of their box office releases, the bigger issue is that people don't just trust hollywood to make a movie that's worth their money anymore. The continued increase in the cost of a trip to the theater combined with the lowering quality of movies has turned people off from paying the cost of a single night experience in huge numbers. Why spend $50 or more to see a lack-luster movie one time, when you can just wait a few weeks to see the same thing at home on streaming for cheaper? It used to be, once a movie was released in theaters, it was at least a few months to a year before the same movie was available on home video. Now with studios trying to milk as much money out of a production as quickly as possible, the same movie gets releases to streaming less than a month after theatrical release, and that's if it's not on streaming the same day of release. That will always hurt a movie's long-term earnings, but studios are worried more about immediate returns, and the theaters that host their movies are the ones loosing money, leading to them to charge more for the movies they do show, and in turn leading to less people feeling like it's worth the cost.
In the end, it's a combination of lower quality movies in general making the theater experience not worth the cost in the eyes of the public, and the studios' push for immediate returns with streaming cutting into a film's longevity that is strangling theaters.
We don't got the money to drive to the theatre and buy tickets.
That’s me. K- dramas on Netflix. I know what I’m getting and I don’t have to leave the comfort of my home. 😁
I’m pretty sure it was the mixture of both. XD
Hollywood pretty much killed both cinema and streaming to be honest. I'm convinced the industry itself is only propped up by obfuscation and subterfuge at the moment, failure after failure being washed through individual company streaming platforms that can hide and obfuscate so we never really know how bad they actually do, except for every quarter where we hear that the streaming platforms aside from Netflix always do worse than projected, even as they tout the successes of the shows they've washed through them.
Among the things I don't miss about cinemas are people kicking the back of your seat. When I was still going to cinemas, I always choose seats where there'd be no one behind me, if available, for this very reason.
Damn, just thought of when I last watched a movie in the theatre. It was Dr. Strange MoM and I fell asleep during that. 😂
Certain movies should be viewed in a big theatre. When I first saw "Star Wars" in 1977, the audience reaction multiplied the experience by over 9000. :) But the movies that deserve to be shown this way are now few and far between.
Looking at the fact that I haven't watched a single film in over a year, even by sailing the high seas, and have lost complete interest in checking what films are even coming out, I'd say the main culprit is Hollywood.
I haven't been to the cinema since the '90's. In the early 2000's I couldn't afford it, and more recently, there's nothing there I really want to watch.
I’ve gone back to physical movies and games. Always preferred physical switch games. But now I’m getting movies i like and ps5 games, too.
The last film I saw in theaters was John Wick Chapter 4. An ending of a character's story, and a pretty decent movie. I can live with that being the last movie I see in theaters. Rereleases and special events being an exception that is.
Ive also noticed A list actors are having to do normal cable tv commercials instead of just relying on movies like they used to. I saw a commercial with robert downey jr. For insurance or something like that the other day...
Before I watch this video, the answer to the question is "both."
The "I have to see this on the big screen" type movie isn't being made anymore. The movies that are being made people say "eh, I'll watch it when it hits streaming." There have always been people that waited for movies to be on home video though.
Now streaming is even killing itself by breaking up into different services. Netflix became a thing because people were sick of having to manage cable packages and now we are returning to that. On the other hand, I like that the streaming services broke up. Having everything on Netflix was good, but it gave Netflix too much power and control. We've seen with UA-cam and the Twitter files what too much power and control does.
Little bit of column A. Little bit of column B. Which is a shame as there are just some things the home viewing experience can't capture from the cinema.
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I hadn't been to the theater ("the cinema" for you lesser countries) since Deadpool 2 came out, until Godzilla Minus One, I went & saw that 3 times.
I don't know if this is the same case but do you know the song from the 80's , Radio Killed the Radio Star? It's basically about how music videos took over and radio DJ's suffered for it. It didn't actually take anyone away from listening to the radio anymore but it definitely changed the music landscape for a time. Maybe this is the same thing? It's kinda scary to see what kind of changes are coming now.
A combination of both with a back and forth. First, streaming began to take audiences. Then, cinema stopped being about the experience. Eventually, the rot began to spread as the same movies kept being recycled and redone for the same message. Right or left leaning, people want escapism and fun in movies, not to have the same idea regurgitated on their faces.
I saw Godzilla Minus One twice in theatre. Hollywood killed it.
Yeah, like I don’t even know how movie theatres survive anymore because I never go to the movie theatre, last time I went to go see Ghostbusters, but it really hasn’t been anything in the theatres to make me wanna go ,gone are the days like we used to experience where they had Lord of the rings, pirates of the Caribbean and Star Wars all around the same time aswell as Harry Potter, gone the old days of the early 2000s where movies were king
I actually love how Apple is paying actors based on their product’s success. Pretty great change if you ask me.
The nostalgia of cinema from my childhood is quite strong.
Our local cinema has repurposed five of its theaters into an axe-throwing facility, offering a unique and cost-effective entertainment option compared to traditional movie tickets. Additionally, the cinema continues to provide beer sales, catering to a broader range of customer preferences.
I work at a movie theater. Streaming is a factor, but it's not the only one. Marketing is a big one. The D&D movie? The marketing focused WAY too much on all of the silly humor. It made me think it was Thor Love and Thunder all over again, and so I gave it a pass. Then thanks to work I saw bits of it, and I was like, "dude, this isn't anything like the movie they advertised. I'd have watched this opening day!" Same with Argile. It was a quirky, silly spy movie, but it felt like they spent too much energy on the cat. So marketing is a massive issue in modern Hollywood. They don't know how to sell their movies accurately so that people actually get interested. It's either woefully inaccurate, or they spoil all of the best moments in the ads. Add in all of the messaging and poor movies, and people are just too gun shy.
Oh yeah, and Hollywood has let budgets get massively out of control. Dune 2 did very well, with a far, FAR smaller budget than many other "blockbusters". So the definition of a "success" is much different. Avatar had a massive budget, but the story was done well, and the effects had meaning and serve a purpose. Things like Transformers is all effects effects effects with no substance. So big big budget, for really nothing.
So ultimately, it's Hollywood that's the biggest issue. At one time, Marvel was an automatic busy busy time. That has changed drastically for the negative. And that is across the board. The movies aren't as good. I hear it time and time again from the guests. The movies aren't as good anymore. Or the marketing was wrong.
High cost. I'm not going to the movies because it's now wildly expensive.
Streaming has killed the Fear Of Missing Out that drew a lot of people to the cinema and helped them put up with the stinkers. It's just so easy to wait for the movie on streaming.
I haven't been to the movie theater/cinema for so long.........
The last movie I saw in theaters was the third Hobbit film.
I can barely remember any movie from the last decade. Even the good ones were mid compared to actually good movies in the past.
There will be a shift in cinema culture but it will keep going. Reruns, themed movie events and selling merch will bring in more money than new movies that sell nothing.
Cinema died during the COVID-19 lockdowns and crappy films have hit the final nail in the coffin.
You used to be able to go to the movies, pick a random movie and have a good chance of having a good time. Now you have to do your research, pick them very carefully, and even then you get disappointed with movies that should be right up your alley on paper
I haven't been to the cinemas in over 20 years. It was different back then nowadays I'd rather stay at home and watch a movie with friends/family. Our society has changed so drastically in the 20-30 years thanks to mobile phones and technology in general. Reminds me of malls we have a small one left today in our city and it's struggling a lot with a ton of shut down stores. Different times why go to a store when you can buy stuff online. I really miss the "old" days to be honest, things were just more simple, you can take my phone.
I don't know if it's the same elsewhere in the world, but US theaters just also tend to be gross to go to to begin with. It's difficult to enjoy the movie when some tone deaf idiot brought their baby in and they're shrieking the entire time. Even harder to enjoy when the floor is mysteriously sticky and there's popcorn in the cupholders.
Recently introduced my 18yo son to Get Smart via the movie. It was pretty good.
BBC Radio keep trailing Dr Who and selling it up. Of course, the people trailing it are only doing it because they're paid not because the liked it.
It was Hollywood. No question.
I went to the theater to see Fall Guy mostly because I wanted to support my theater not because I really needed to see it in theaters. In fact, I would have preferred it at home since I can pause it for bathroom breaks etc.
20:10 - Agreed that it will be a niche thing. Drive-in Cinemas are pretty much non-existant but there's one 'near' me that's been revived and seems to be doing good business.
The entertainment industry only has themselves to blame. Because of COVID the executives wanted more streaming services because people were stuck home for upto 2 years and so people simply got used to that life style and now it's not convenient to go to a cinema.
A random UA-cam video popped up with the “coolest scenes” in movies and the thumbnail was from Sucker Punch. That made me immediately realize why Sucker Punch worked but Rebel Moon failed miserably. Sucker Punch starred a beautiful woman who was often in scenes with other attractive women.
It’s become the trend in Hollywood to cast unattractive people and gender non binary people. Even if they do cast an attractive person, they do everything to make them less attractive. It may be shallow but it’s human nature that we prefer to look at attractive people. I think this is a big and undiscussed reason for why modern movies and tv shows are failing.
No, a lot of people go to the movies even weekly and watch everything literally! The problem is their box office and pricez which make it look like underperforming... but it is an analogy for salaries vs inflation.
Beyond the little kids wanting to see the monster/creature type movies Kong, Zilla, PotA Hollywood killed the movies for the adults. I can legit get a Bluray version for a single ticket price if I wait six months for the disc release.
Hollywood. They failed the people.
"A Wizard should know BETTER!" - Treebeard, LOTR
Cinema is so F expensive.
Streaming F expensive.
And the film industry heats everything I stand for.... So I'm done and so are many many people...
For a moment I was sad at the idea of cinemas dying but then I remembered the last time I went to the movies some asshole was throwing quarters from the highest part of the theater smacking me in the back of the head and I had to go get that looked at by EMTs or the other time when the entire theater had to be emptied because some asshole couldn’t go through the movie without vaping the most rancid smelling weed in history. Cinemas only work in a respectable society which we are currently not in right now.
It's a bit of both.. But Hollywood in it's gold rush pushed for standards in how long a movie will remain in the theater.. most studios have that streaming title online within 45 days. Most people have just decided that can wait. Add to that prices going up up up . Budgets going up up up... Ticket sales going down down down.. well it's just led to a collapse.
I think the main thing was poor marketing decisions. DVDs started being released sooner and sooner, at roughly the same price as a ticket (and snacks). Then you had them releasing too soon to streaming services too. Both really killed the need or desire to go to the theater and deal with all the BS there (and then covid really put the nail in many of the cinema's coffins with the lockdowns)
Great to see Nathan. The videos are significantly better with him than with Oz.
The cinema experienced killed itself. Overpriced, uncomfortable, too loud, too cold, too hot, bad food, long lines, etc. The list is endless. The only redeeming factor of the cinema at this point is the superior popcorn. An average priced home sound system sounds better and a good TV looks vastly better than the screens at the theaters. Why would I pay more to get less?
I'll be honest, VCRs killed the cinema for me. Then cell phones made it worse. By the time the industry started noticing attendance was down, I'd been complaining for years that A) they were not making movies worth going to the theatre and B) the VCR generation ruined everything. If they weren't talking during the movie, like you do at home amongst family and friends, they were constantly texting or looking at their phones. Dude! You already pay to look at your texts, now you're paying more to do it in the dark!
The last time I went to the movies at the cinema was Sonic 2 with family. I took my 3 year old grandson to see Super Mario Brothers, his first in theatre movie and he loved and it was so well behaved that I think I puffed up a little, I was so proud. There is nothing coming up, even Deadpool, that is luring me to go to the cinema.
I will still go to the cinema if something I want to see gets released. The problem is that these events are few and far between now.
When I worked at a movie theater circa 2010, I used my employee free tickets benefit roughly every other week or slightly more. That's not to say everything was good, but almost everything was at least a form of escapism.
I loved Dune part 2. But alas, the only (other) movie I've seen in theaters since 2018 was "The Shining" which was so so much better in a theater.
The communal aspect of the theater, I think people willingly tossed that. Most people would rather watch what they like from the comfort of their own home. Such a setup allows them to have as much or as little 'community' as they wish. Want to watch with people? Invite over some friends or family. Want to watch your favorite slasher film in the dark by yourself? Go for it.
Streaming and 'The Message' may have accelerated the collapse of the traditional cinema, but they were already on the decline.
I've heard that we went from a front porch community to a back porch one, and now we've even moved past that...
Once again, as I reasoned during what the pandemic had done to cinema... rerelease every good film and movie that people liked, just back to early 2000, that the theaters had the rights to show. It would get lots of money coming back into theaters. Even maybe as low as, every week or two weeks show a different movie..
I feel that cinemas might have to do a bidding war with indie creators.
. The last movie I saw in theaters with family was Boys in the Boat.
I think cinemas should shrink themselves into smaller private movie watching rooms like karaoke rooms
I couldn’t imagine going to a movie 🍿 theatre 🎭
I don’t even watch tv 📺
I watch UA-cam and even that is garbage 🗑️ mostly 😊
There are 4 things that kills Cinema:
1: Streaming brings Movies for small Money in top quality at home.
2: It's more comfortable to watch a Movie at home than going to the Cinema and there get annoyed by bad behaviour of other people.
3: There are not enough watcheable Movies in Cinema for casual Movie fans that go into Cinema as a regular habit
4: Most Movies made are not as good as in the past. And fans got fooled to often to take a risk in going into Cinema for the next huge Franchise Movie.
As a person with mysophonia, I would like a word with the idiot that made popcorn the main movie snack. I don’t go to the cinemas anymore simply because I don’t want to listen to 50 people crammed into a room crunching popcorn. Unless the room is entirely empty, I just don’t want to go.
I also just don’t watch enough movies to even pay attention to what is coming out. There’s only one or two movies that release every 5 years that I’m interested in enough to want to go see it in the theaters, but even then getting friends together to go is a chore because work schedules and all that, so it ends up not happening anyhow.
I wonder if that’s the future of cinema, making a streaming platform where you can stream the media you want while also being able to sync the watch with other people. Something like you pay a single cost plus a small extra fee per additional person connecting and then everyone can watch online together. If it costs the same as a standard movie ticket, I don’t think it’ll succeed too well, it’d have to be more accessible to people, but having a high single cost still allows for people to watch solo.
Someone, somewhere needs to find a way to make watch parties online work. I want to be able to watch a movie online with friends that aren’t local anymore and just can’t.
Bottom line, you need to make enough great movies to make going to the cinema a habit. Once a habit is broken, or even better, replaced, you need a compelling reason to change.