Steve, there should be a sixth corner of California if you include the Lake Tahoe as a fifth corner. The sixth is the tripoint where the corner of CA, NV and AZ meet on the Colorado River. Good work on your channel, I love it. Thanks.
Steve, So glad you re-created this adventure 20 years later. Your episodes were fun to watch, but sorry you picked the absolute WORST summer day all year up at Tahoe. The late Huell would have been proud of you.
I love how you visited the Huell Howser Archives. I clicked on this video thinking "I wonder if this is going to be similar to when Huell visited the California corners." I think Huell would be proud and give an uncomfortably long hand shake. Thanks for sharing the beautiful state of California with us!
Wonderful of you honor Huell Howser! 👏👏👏 I watched him for years until his passing. I found your channel and it is very interesting and enjoyable and I really enjoy it like it did Huell. Thank you! -Nina.
Thanks! Trudging to, down, and up from that ravine to the NE marker deserves some compensation. This is an adventure that I myself might undertake. Your videos are well researched, informative--and unlike many other "history" channels, you use actual historical photos and visuals to document your storyline. Thanks again!
As always, beautiful and interesting places. We travel to the US every year, visiting one state per year. This year´s trip to SoCal was partly inspired by your past travels and that guided us to great sites. Than you for giving these insights, it´s great food for thought to visit places with a good bit of background historic information. You run a great channel and we always get something out of it. Thank you!
Steve, thank you for your series, I have learned more from them than in any history books. You’re an inspiration to our youth & myself @ 77 y.o. May the dear Lord watch over you in your travels, again thanks 👍
From a New Zealander. Appreciate the vids. Love visiting the states. Especially the California region through to desert areas. Such old and also new history in those regions. Keep it going!
This was such a great travelog, even more impressive than your usual excellent videos. I enjoyed every minute! Haha! " . . . I think the California water is pushing against the Nevada water." 😄
What a long haul for you and your travelers to make for this trip! I never thought I would see all 5 corners of CA! Thank you so much for this and for your other ventures, all for our benefit!
This is amazing. Im so glad you went to all the time, expense, and effort to do this. I remember watching Huell Howser visit these corners as well. Though, I think that a 6th corner should be considered, where the CA/NV/AZ state lines meet at the Colorado River.
The green bottle in the NE California border corner marker is an Owens-Illinois Duraglas feature since 1940. The bottle has these circular ridges on the bottom of bottles/jars giving the foot of the bottle greater strength, greater gripping feature to any horizontal surface, and also protect against cold shock to the bottle, shattering the glass. I suspect that it is a 1960s bottle if I could look closer at the Owens-Illinois O I symbol and the plant and year marks on the bottom. Looking at the Owens-Illinois Plant codes and an extreme zoom view of the bottle bottom, it appears that Plant 17 was the glass manufacturing plant. You would think that Plant 20 in Oakland, CA or Plant 23 in Los Angeles, CA would be this bottle maker, but it actually came from Plant 17 which is Clarion, PA operating from 1930-2010. So my presumption is that the bottle and a state conservation program of a concrete pour at the monument happened in the 1960s-1970s.
Just noticed your subscriber count is 199k! So close to 200, I wish I could help push that along but I'm already subbed. It just blows my mind that the count isn't at least five times that by now.
Love your channel we have been to a lot of the places you have visited. You find some we haven't been to. So thanks for that. We will try to explore those in the future. In case you don't know, a "ladder" over a fence is called a style. Looking forward to seeing more of your adventures, thanks.
Nice Compilation. All combined together nicely. I believe Huell was smiling down on this one. And I think he would of given you and Mrs. Sidetrack, a Big Thumbs Up for your efforts.
Great show! If you were to dive into borders a little deeper you will find that to establish where you are at you have to use meridians. California has 3 principal meridians. 2 that run east west and 1 that runs north south. The southern meridian is named the San Bernardino Meridian. It runs at 34*07*13* from the Pacific Ocean due east to past the Arizona California border. I live in N.E Los Angeles in the community of Atwater Village. Just so happens that this meridian runs less than 50 feet from my house. To me this fact is a source of civic pride, something to be proud of. I wish I could say that others in my neighborhood feel the same. Thanks again for producing and posting this video.
Thanks for the retrospective on California's 5 corners. It was a nice post-workout diversion for me. San Diego FC's home opener next year is against my team, St. Louis City. Good luck!
I'm looking forward to the season. Hope they can get the issues with the field worked out. I just saw that the Wave moved their final home game because of the conditions.
There was a show called Huell Howser, California’s Gold, and he touches each corner of the state. I recall him mentioning the upper left corner is about 2 miles south of where it is supposed to be meaning a little bit of Oregon is actually California. Surveyors did it wrong or something like that I recall
The border was originally defined in the 19th century, and there were some surveying inaccuracies at the time. The border was intended to follow the 42nd parallel north, but due to the challenges of surveying in that era there were minor inaccuracies. Some surveys did result in the border being slightly off, leading to discussions about whether it was precisely where it was supposed to be. However, the official border remains where it is today, despite those historical surveying issues. So, while there may have been some inaccuracies, the established boundary has been maintained since its designation
Love your videos Sir...even though you are a Padres fan lol...Keep em coming please !!!!...on Edit..Thank you for recognizing Huell!!..You are no Huell but close.!!!!!!!!.again...very much enjoy your videos
56:00:00 ONTO THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF CALIFORNIA FROM THE NORTHEASTERN CORNER @ TYE BORDERS OF OREGON, NEVADA AND CALIFORNIA...Just another 750 mile adventure with HISTORY! Wait..arent we going to stop in Lake TAHOE??? Hmmmmm...Can't argue with my tour guide...carry on...forward march.
I a huge Huel Howser fan! Did California Gold inspired you to create your channel? Awesome episode! Love your channel inspite of you being a Padres fan!😂
Okay Steve the five corners were great , but there are also 5 Peninsulas (to be argued I'm sure) in California ! Can you do those sometime ? That would make this old Surf Boy happy !🏄🏼♂️
Me and a friend of mine went down to Border Field State Park back in '17 and there was no issue w/ sewage or snakes, but we were surprised to be the only people on the beaches and trail. We walked about a mile towards the border fence and I remember seeing patrollers on ATVs(?) and we were getting vibes that they were going to wave us away. I was hoping on my next trip to SD to visit Friendship Park, but now it looks to not be happening anytime soon. Thanks for giving an update on the place as well as the tour from both sides of the border. I live in IL and I've only visited the southernmost point of the state, which is better than nothing I suppose. Anyway, happy 2025 and keep putting out great videos!
I live near that last Spanish Mission, which was taken over by Mexico but secularized by General Vallejo. And I'm close to thousands of Coast Redwoods, the tallest tree in the world and among the oldest. Even all over my city are redwoods. I love it here in Sonoma County.
I wish you would have shown a little of the nightlife around lake Tahoe. Your accommodations and where you had dinner would have been interesting to see what that atmosphere was like. Really have enjoyed this video though The best thing about your videos over most of them that are available is all the information in history you give. It must take a lot of research and I love history. As long as I don't have to do the work to find it. Video a movie. Maybe a book if it gets much harder than that. I give up and evidently that's where you excel. Thank you watching you from Yuma AZ
Just a couple notes about Friendship park and the border marker. The marker that has been abandoned on the south side of the wall is the original 1851 monument and was unique compared to all the other ones installed just after the Treaty of Guadalupe Hildago was signed because it indicated the first point the bi-National survey teams identified as the border between countries.After the extensive damage by visitors, the marble was repaired, reinscribed and renumbered. The gate is supposed to be for customs and border protection (CBP) to maintain it. It has never been opened for visitors to use the park, but has been open on occasion for weddings to occur with bride and groom on each side if the gate. The double wall has been there since around 2012, but was recently raised from 18’ to 30’, which is probably why the mural with Trump and Biden is there. Families have never been allowed to commingle like the parks on the Canadian border, but until 2019 were allowed to approach the wall and touch fingertips. People traveled thousands of miles on both sides of the border to see their loved ones using this location. Only immigrants with a legal status who were unable to leave the country used this park due to heavy CBP enforcement personnel present. Imagine being a grandparent and having to see your grandchild in person only in this way. As a San Diegan I am very disappointed by the immense disrespect and lack of care CPB has taken with these important cultural and historic elements on public trust lands. If you want to know more about this important Presidential park, please visit The Cultural Landscape Foundation’s website for more information and recognition under their Landslide award. Friends of Friendship Park is also a good site to visit to learn more.
Wow very interesting history about Swansea. I never knew it existed. And I'm learning a lot of history about my country that I never knew about at least this end of it.
Great tour! But isn't there a sixth corner at the junction of California, Nevada, and Arizona? It's due West of Fort Mohave, about 10 miles North of Needles.
If Huell Howser counted 5 corners, wouldn't there be six by his definition? The six being near Laughlin, Nevada and Bullhead City, Arizona. Great video, thank you! Edited: I saw your reply below about a separate video of Ft. Mohave. I will check that one out.
I remember when Huell did a similar show as this one and when he found the boarder marker for the California and Oregon he went into either a store or restaurant that claimed it was a business in Oregon and Huell told the owner of that place that they were actually south of the Oregon border and they were actually a business inside California. The business owner got quite mad at Huell and told him to get out of his business because it wasn’t true 😎
Very interesting. I wonder if that marker was correct because I remember in another video that Steve and Jessica did on the northeast corner of California and the problems of the border markers there. There different surveys were done and then finally the US Supreme Court in 1980 determined the legal border.
Thank you for taking us on your tour. I'm watching from New Zealand and I have a question, what were the requirements of you wanting to crossing over to Mexico side? Like can you just walk over the border or how dose it work? Just curious that's all. Keep up the awesome videos buddy ❤
Great video. The southern border, rather than being a parallel east-west line, is a line that runs from what was the mouth of the Gila River, to a point one marine league south of the southernmost point of San Diego Bay. The folks who wrote the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo didn't have detailed knowledge of the geography, but they knew that they wanted all of San Diego Bay to be on the US side of the border, so they defined the border by those two points, not knowing what, exactly, that line would look like.
I remember when he ( Huell) was up there on one of his trips and he said that the state line markers were off… The original survey had California a little further north and he was interviewing some Oregonians and they were not happy with that conversation.
Steve, there should be a sixth corner of California if you include the Lake Tahoe as a fifth corner. The sixth is the tripoint where the corner of CA, NV and AZ meet on the Colorado River. Good work on your channel, I love it. Thanks.
Agreed
I was to suggest that too, but an obstacle could be that area is an Indian reservation and permission would be needed.
Cape Mendocino is an elbow, geographical most western point on California Coast
My Grandson is named Jeddiah after the Park.
Steve, So glad you re-created this adventure 20 years later. Your episodes were fun to watch, but sorry you picked the absolute WORST summer day all year up at Tahoe. The late Huell would have been proud of you.
This is my favorite show
Thank you.
I like it too! I wish you could do more in the longer format.
I love how you visited the Huell Howser Archives. I clicked on this video thinking "I wonder if this is going to be similar to when Huell visited the California corners." I think Huell would be proud and give an uncomfortably long hand shake. Thanks for sharing the beautiful state of California with us!
Excellent premier. Love the way you put 5 videos together for this.
congratulations on 200k Ive been here since about 1k and always thought you deserved more subs.
Thank you, I appreciate all the support.
Wonderful of you honor Huell Howser! 👏👏👏 I watched him for years until his passing. I found your channel and it is very interesting and enjoyable and I really enjoy it like it did Huell. Thank you! -Nina.
“Getting here is only half the journey.”
The other half is the journey back. 😂
I thought that too! 😂
Lake Tahoe is so beautiful. The only other lake that compares in beauty (in the US) is Crater Lake in Oregon ❤
I liked your remembrance to Huell Howser. I really enjoyed his shows. No one promoted CA more than Huell
Thanks! Trudging to, down, and up from that ravine to the NE marker deserves some compensation. This is an adventure that I myself might undertake. Your videos are well researched, informative--and unlike many other "history" channels, you use actual historical photos and visuals to document your storyline. Thanks again!
Thank you, I really appreciate it!
As always, beautiful and interesting places. We travel to the US every year, visiting one state per year. This year´s trip to SoCal was partly inspired by your past travels and that guided us to great sites. Than you for giving these insights, it´s great food for thought to visit places with a good bit of background historic information. You run a great channel and we always get something out of it. Thank you!
Thank you, I really appreciate it and glad I could help!
This was really awesome seeing all five corners of California
for your great videos thanks.🏜🇺🇲🏞
this was a really fantastic series steve. great work
Glad you enjoyed it
Steve, thank you for your series, I have learned more from them than in any history books. You’re an inspiration to our youth & myself @ 77 y.o.
May the dear Lord watch over you in your travels, again thanks 👍
Thanks!
Thank you. I really appreciate it.
From a New Zealander. Appreciate the vids. Love visiting the states. Especially the California region through to desert areas. Such old and also new history in those regions. Keep it going!
This was such a great travelog, even more impressive than your usual excellent videos. I enjoyed every minute!
Haha! " . . . I think the California water is pushing against the Nevada water." 😄
Thank you for this video!
A consolidation of several prior videos of the various corners. Great videography and narration.
What a long haul for you and your travelers to make for this trip! I never thought I would see all 5 corners of CA! Thank you so much for this and for your other ventures, all for our benefit!
RIP Huell Howser, and thank you Steve.
That was fantastic having all 5 corners together!
Thank you for taking us along on all of your adventures!
Hurl Howser did such great work and I’ve missed him so much. Thank you picking up the baton!
Perfect on a Saturday afternoon! Thank you!!
I loved this. Thank you. I had to watch with some breaks. Pretty much all I watched this Saturday. So nice.
Thanks Steve . I love your videos. It was so funny when you admitted you left the flag in the car. We've all been there.
This is amazing. Im so glad you went to all the time, expense, and effort to do this. I remember watching Huell Howser visit these corners as well. Though, I think that a 6th corner should be considered, where the CA/NV/AZ state lines meet at the Colorado River.
The green bottle in the NE California border corner marker is an Owens-Illinois Duraglas feature since 1940. The bottle has these circular ridges on the bottom of bottles/jars giving the foot of the bottle greater strength, greater gripping feature to any horizontal surface, and also protect against cold shock to the bottle, shattering the glass. I suspect that it is a 1960s bottle if I could look closer at the Owens-Illinois O I symbol and the plant and year marks on the bottom.
Looking at the Owens-Illinois Plant codes and an extreme zoom view of the bottle bottom, it appears that Plant 17 was the glass manufacturing plant. You would think that Plant 20 in Oakland, CA or Plant 23 in Los Angeles, CA would be this bottle maker, but it actually came from Plant 17 which is Clarion, PA operating from 1930-2010. So my presumption is that the bottle and a state conservation program of a concrete pour at the monument happened in the 1960s-1970s.
Very interesting. Thank you for the insight. I wondered when the concrete might have been added.
A compilation vid! Excellent!
Liked the video, always a pleasure Sir. THE SARGE
Okay, I thought I recognize some parts of this video. Wasn't sure if it was a repeat. Outstanding job as usual
Thank you. Yes, it's the other videos combined with a couple minutes of extra footage.
Thanks for sharing I’m sure huell would have enjoyed this as well
Just noticed your subscriber count is 199k! So close to 200, I wish I could help push that along but I'm already subbed. It just blows my mind that the count isn't at least five times that by now.
I know! SA should have at least every Californian and former Californian
(I left in 1961!) that would bring up the totals quickly!
Congrats on 200k! 😎
Thank you!!
This was such an excellent series!! Always interesting!! 👍👍
Nice recap, some trip.
You are the man!
Cheers,
Rik Spector
Love your channel we have been to a lot of the places you have visited. You find some we haven't been to. So thanks for that. We will try to explore those in the future. In case you don't know, a "ladder" over a fence is called a style. Looking forward to seeing more of your adventures, thanks.
Thank you so much.
You're welcome!
This was really fun. I hope you try it again soon!
Great video this deserves more views really inspiring
I love your videos thank you for this long video. It was wonderful to just lounge. Play on my iPad and watch your adventures.
I miss Huell. Thank you for including him in this video. He visited the ship/gift shop when it was open.
Great video, thank you for making this. Very enjoyable and interesting. Appreciate all of your work!!
Great video!
Love all your videos!
Great job!
Another 26 years of great videos and you can have your own exhibit at Chapman University.
Thank you!! Year in the spring lets go to Colorado and new mexico
Nice Compilation. All combined together nicely. I believe Huell was smiling down on this one. And I think he would of given you and Mrs. Sidetrack, a Big Thumbs Up for your efforts.
Great Video, I never would of thought about the corners. Thank You, ❤😊✌️
Grew up visiting that park. Early 80s. I remember friends getting super sick from surfing in IB.
Wow I was a kid when I would watch Huell howser R.I.P
I'ma wait for the VOD
Steve, iv never considered the five corners of California... thank you for sharing this... very interesting stuff
Well done. I watched it all.
Great show! If you were to dive into borders a little deeper you will find that to establish where you are at you have to use meridians. California has 3 principal meridians. 2 that run east west and 1 that runs north south. The southern meridian is named the San Bernardino Meridian. It runs at 34*07*13* from the Pacific Ocean due east to past the Arizona California border. I live in N.E Los Angeles in the community of Atwater Village. Just so happens that this meridian runs less than 50 feet from my house. To me this fact is a source of civic pride, something to be proud of. I wish I could say that others in my neighborhood feel the same. Thanks again for producing and posting this video.
Very interesting, Steve... thanks for your knowledge.
I had a job to get done and your voice in the background helped me get through it. Thanks for the great video!
THanks you taught me a lot as a native Californian!
Happy to help!
Thanks for the retrospective on California's 5 corners. It was a nice post-workout diversion for me. San Diego FC's home opener next year is against my team, St. Louis City. Good luck!
I'm looking forward to the season. Hope they can get the issues with the field worked out. I just saw that the Wave moved their final home game because of the conditions.
I don't know where you find the time to do these videos, but we sure enjoy them, please keep up the good work !
There was a show called Huell Howser, California’s Gold, and he touches each corner of the state. I recall him mentioning the upper left corner is about 2 miles south of where it is supposed to be meaning a little bit of Oregon is actually California. Surveyors did it wrong or something like that I recall
The border was originally defined in the 19th century, and there were some surveying inaccuracies at the time. The border was intended to follow the 42nd parallel north, but due to the challenges of surveying in that era there were minor inaccuracies.
Some surveys did result in the border being slightly off, leading to discussions about whether it was precisely where it was supposed to be. However, the official border remains where it is today, despite those historical surveying issues. So, while there may have been some inaccuracies, the established boundary has been maintained since its designation
Cort lindahl channel has some of that Bidwell history stuff all packed up in video.
@@MischaFellnerthe historical Bidwell mansion in Chico, CA burned down last week. So many historical places slowly disappearing in CA.
Got my notification on, Steve, tho it's earlier than my usual lunchtime.... 😅😉✌️
Thanks!
Thanks Steve and Jessica!
Love your videos Sir...even though you are a Padres fan lol...Keep em coming please !!!!...on Edit..Thank you for recognizing Huell!!..You are no Huell but close.!!!!!!!!.again...very much enjoy your videos
This was so awesome! I’ve been to 3 corners. I love how he planted flags!
Always interesting, fun and informative! Can’t go wrong with sidetrack!
56:00:00 ONTO THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF CALIFORNIA FROM THE NORTHEASTERN CORNER @ TYE BORDERS OF OREGON, NEVADA AND CALIFORNIA...Just another 750 mile adventure with HISTORY! Wait..arent we going to stop in Lake TAHOE??? Hmmmmm...Can't argue with my tour guide...carry on...forward march.
❤😂
Hello Steve. I like your channel. I think you making very good job. 😀❤
Got my notification on for this one Steve
Happy New Year to you and your family! Enjoy your videos very much! Thank you!
I a huge Huel Howser fan! Did California Gold inspired you to create your channel? Awesome episode! Love your channel inspite of you being a Padres fan!😂
Thanks again professor…
You are welcome.
I love all the effort you put into your shows!!!!!!
hi steve, enjoy your videos bud
Glad you like them!
Okay Steve the five corners were great , but there are also 5 Peninsulas (to be argued I'm sure) in California ! Can you do those sometime ? That would make this old Surf Boy happy !🏄🏼♂️
Great videos, but could the friendship park be anymore depressing!
THANKS SAN..DIEGO STEVE 😊
Me and a friend of mine went down to Border Field State Park back in '17 and there was no issue w/ sewage or snakes, but we were surprised to be the only people on the beaches and trail. We walked about a mile towards the border fence and I remember seeing patrollers on ATVs(?) and we were getting vibes that they were going to wave us away. I was hoping on my next trip to SD to visit Friendship Park, but now it looks to not be happening anytime soon. Thanks for giving an update on the place as well as the tour from both sides of the border. I live in IL and I've only visited the southernmost point of the state, which is better than nothing I suppose. Anyway, happy 2025 and keep putting out great videos!
This is the live director’s cut!
Huell Howser approves of this video.
👍 Nice tour, thank you for sharing.
Excellent video!
Educational and Entertaining
50:58 well done, not many reached that point!
Very interesting video, very informative.
I live near that last Spanish Mission, which was taken over by Mexico but secularized by General Vallejo. And I'm close to thousands of Coast Redwoods, the tallest tree in the world and among the oldest. Even all over my city are redwoods. I love it here in Sonoma County.
I wish you would have shown a little of the nightlife around lake Tahoe. Your accommodations and where you had dinner would have been interesting to see what that atmosphere was like. Really have enjoyed this video though
The best thing about your videos over most of them that are available is all the information in history you give. It must take a lot of research and I love history. As long as I don't have to do the work to find it. Video a movie. Maybe a book if it gets much harder than that. I give up and evidently that's where you excel. Thank you watching you from Yuma AZ
Great movie
great video I watch a lot of your videos too.
Awesome Video...Thanks!!
Loved the video. Felt like PBS 💗
Just a couple notes about Friendship park and the border marker. The marker that has been abandoned on the south side of the wall is the original 1851 monument and was unique compared to all the other ones installed just after the Treaty of Guadalupe Hildago was signed because it indicated the first point the bi-National survey teams identified as the border between countries.After the extensive damage by visitors, the marble was repaired, reinscribed and renumbered. The gate is supposed to be for customs and border protection (CBP) to maintain it. It has never been opened for visitors to use the park, but has been open on occasion for weddings to occur with bride and groom on each side if the gate. The double wall has been there since around 2012, but was recently raised from 18’ to 30’, which is probably why the mural with Trump and Biden is there. Families have never been allowed to commingle like the parks on the Canadian border, but until 2019 were allowed to approach the wall and touch fingertips. People traveled thousands of miles on both sides of the border to see their loved ones using this location. Only immigrants with a legal status who were unable to leave the country used this park due to heavy CBP enforcement personnel present. Imagine being a grandparent and having to see your grandchild in person only in this way. As a San Diegan I am very disappointed by the immense disrespect and lack of care CPB has taken with these important cultural and historic elements on public trust lands. If you want to know more about this important Presidential park, please visit The Cultural Landscape Foundation’s website for more information and recognition under their Landslide award. Friends of Friendship Park is also a good site to visit to learn more.
Wow very interesting history about Swansea. I never knew it existed.
And I'm learning a lot of history about my country that I never knew about at least this end of it.
Great tour! But isn't there a sixth corner at the junction of California, Nevada, and Arizona? It's due West of Fort Mohave, about 10 miles North of Needles.
Pretty cool
If Huell Howser counted 5 corners, wouldn't there be six by his definition? The six being near Laughlin, Nevada and Bullhead City, Arizona. Great video, thank you! Edited: I saw your reply below about a separate video of Ft. Mohave. I will check that one out.
Awesome, loved the tour.
Would have given you the pass if you didn't actually go out onto Lake Tahoe itself, but cheers for doing it.
I remember when Huell did a similar show as this one and when he found the boarder marker for the California and Oregon he went into either a store or restaurant that claimed it was a business in Oregon and Huell told the owner of that place that they were actually south of the Oregon border and they were actually a business inside California. The business owner got quite mad at Huell and told him to get out of his business because it wasn’t true 😎
Very interesting. I wonder if that marker was correct because I remember in another video that Steve and Jessica did on the northeast corner of California and the problems of the border markers there. There different surveys were done and then finally the US Supreme Court in 1980 determined the legal border.
Thank you for taking us on your tour. I'm watching from New Zealand and I have a question, what were the requirements of you wanting to crossing over to Mexico side? Like can you just walk over the border or how dose it work? Just curious that's all.
Keep up the awesome videos buddy ❤
Great video i loved it 🎉
Great video. The southern border, rather than being a parallel east-west line, is a line that runs from what was the mouth of the Gila River, to a point one marine league south of the southernmost point of San Diego Bay. The folks who wrote the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo didn't have detailed knowledge of the geography, but they knew that they wanted all of San Diego Bay to be on the US side of the border, so they defined the border by those two points, not knowing what, exactly, that line would look like.
I remember when he ( Huell) was up there on one of his trips and he said that the state line markers were off… The original survey had California a little further north and he was interviewing some Oregonians and they were not happy with that conversation.
California: The Movie 🍿