SpecShadow Fun Fact, in counter strike Dust 2 map was originally going to be called Dust 3 because the creator said "2 is always worse than the first one." Not direct quotes but somewhere in the ballpark.
Vietcong 2 is, for me, the single greatest example of where a sequel takes away everything that made the original so good. As someone who grew up with Vietcong as one of my nostalgic games, Vietcong 2 remains my biggest disappointment in gaming to date. I still remember being let down by the promise of a North Vietnamese campaign, only to be given 4 "bonus" missions instead with no substance. The worst kind of sequel.
I hope I am not too late. I loved Vietcong and I played it as a kid. It's a 2003 game yet it has so fucking much in it. I think I completed it 3 times and I would do it more but old software is not friendly with new software. Kind of hard to play if the game crashes even if there are some sort of small fixes. Thing is for a 2003 game it's amazing. You have a good looking game with gun or environment sounds that feel well researched. You even have to classic Vietnam music playing. You can hear more if you visit your room in the trenches. This is why I love this game. It feels immersive and it has good variety of missions. Between missions you are in your room and you can visit firing range to test weapons. In your room you have your radio where you hear some stuff and classic music. You can read files about lore or guns for example. Sometimes you are solo, sometimes you have couple teammates and sometimes you have a squad. All of them have a purpose. For example providing radio support, point man, ammo, medic or just carrying heavy machine gun. For a 2003 game it's fucking insane how well made it is. Even today games lack this kind of stuff. You would think games today has stuff like archives and some do but not too many. I don't dive into every game but I don't remember the last time I saw archives about lore and guns. It's just stuff games don't bother doing today. I played Vietcong 2 but it felt like completely different game. After couple missions I stooped playing. For a guy that completes pretty much everything even he sometimes forces himself to finish it I think it says a lot that Vietcong 2 is not great.
as some one who only play games in the hardest difficulty, i gotta say vc2 did it job better than vc1, it fixes a lot of issue vc1 had like the stupid health system. Although it no more a game that resembles "vietcong" but rather some cod bootleg, i still prefer vc2 for its more generous AI and gun play, be honest the tunnel mission in vc1 was stupid, especially on max difficulty
If there's one thing i can applaud about this game, it's it soundtrack. The soundtrack is so fucking dope, especially the main theme song for the game.
Every.Fukin.Time. I mean, song is great but it's overused. There are plenty of other songs from that era (and videogames in that theme). But no, better use Fortunate Son again. Now here is a twist - I'm not mad because it's that song again. It's because I've played VC2 too and got painful flashbacks. Even though this piece of shit code is out of my hard drive - the pain is real, like I'm playing it right now. Horror Horror
The best part of this game was the fact that in the first level you could talk to Vietcong 1's protagonist in the bar. Otherwise it was pretty disappointing
Played Vietcong for years in mature coop communities which one hardly finds these days. Some more serious ArmA clans might be an exception. The sequel had always been a letdown and nobody ever joined the open VC 2 servers, so they were shut down and everyone went back to the good old VC. If not even the most hardcore VC veterans enjoyed it, there must've been something terribly wrong...
LawBreakers is still a great game, and everything I expected from CliffyB [and then some]. It's just a shame that Nexon is running that damn game into the ground so hard. Even now, they're content to sit back and whine that PUBG somehow destroyed their game. I'm sure they spent more on that interview than they ever did advertising LB... my hopes at this point are that BKP can break off from Nexon and start over with a major 3.0 patch, alongside an Xbox One release, new characters, and some kind of way to get new players in (like a Battle Royale mode using the zero-G mechanics to make things a little more interesting on the outer edges of the map).
+Brupcat Overwatch had a pretty strong start, but sadly I found myself saying that quickly after launch. Support has just been dreadful for the game, and Paladins was pushing quality updates left and right. OB64 is a gigantic mess right now (not for the "muh P2W" nonsense everyone is wrongly crying about, but simply because it isn't a good system), but I'll probably be checking it out again once the dust clears. I highly recommend Paladins even in its current state above Overwatch, it offers far more content and depth to the basic mechanics that Overwatch got right. Also, unlike Overwatch, it has decent level design.
Bad Texture yeah, it's a good game just marred by no real advertisement and Nexon being who they are. Considering they ran dirty bomb into the ground and kept it a Perpetual beta even though a lot of it is f****** finished and yet they release content as if it were full game why not just call it the full game you lazy bastards!
had to watch this in 360p and thought the art style was actually quite cool, so i was surprised when you said it looks like shiiiet. i'll have to rewatch once 1080p is up
I love your videos. And this is no exception.I really don't know why but your way of analysing and explaining things is incredible. Please keep making videos like this one
Is Killzone even all that comparable to Halo, anyway? I know that Sony really pushed the whole "Halo Killer" thing to magazines all over the world, but...the game wasn't developed by Sony, and it's definitely not like Halo. It almost plays like a sci-fi medal of honor, space nazis included.
Hue is where I come from in Vietnam. Feels kinda bad that there aren't really any good games set in the Vietnam war. Good review Gggman. You should bring in more special guests to review games with you. The second voice really does add to the overall entertainment.
Love your stuff! Straght to the point, non of this "hey itsya boy bananagurgler88, sorry for not postig i lost my house and my dog burned down, like and subscribe" shit! Your videos are like the reviews of VG magazines since days past 😊
So that is how you pronounce his name. FINALLY, THE ANSWER TO THE LIFE LONG QUESTION THAT THE ENTIRE UNIVERSE HAS LONGED FOR HAS FINALLY BEEN GRANTED UPON US MORTALS!!!!!!!!
Never got around to playing this one - even though Vietcong was literally one of my favorite FPS from the early 2000's. I loved the MP in the first game, so I wonder did Vietcong 2 have MP and if it did if it was any good? Sigh, I'd love to see a Vietcong reboot/remaster one of these days.
Geez it hurts to watch this, why would you take me back to VC2??!! The first one was the most overlooked shooter of its day, it deserved a better sequel. Spot on dudes, keep it up :) And wd Salokin, you guys mould together great.
It's really sad it turned out like this, i really liked the old one, even played Purple Haze the console version. Though i do get my fix nowadays playing Mud and Blood Recon.
I just played 2 levels on episode 2 and they were awesome. A huge step up from episode 1 and I thought episode 1 was great. But I think GGG would review it only once teh game's fully out. He's already done 2 videos on it and the game isn't even out yet.
For the single-player campaign, it seems like the developers hit a wall in terms of what they could add after the first Vietcong, which along with its expansions, they really reached peak narrative and gameplay. So they seem to have taken a "in the streets" approach with Vietcong 2. The real strength of Vietcong 2 lies in its multiplayer, it was incredibly fun and had an active community, at least until GameSpy shut down :(( (RIP). the single-player was just a bonus tacked onto the main MP attraction for me
The script is read as if GGGman has two personalities. Btw, check out the Metroid Prime series. Those are a lot of fun and can be set up in an emulator to play as a regular PC FPS.
Defending that US base near the beginning was painful, since the draw distance (due to the "fog") was actually a bit shorter than what some enemies could shoot you from.... How do they even screw up something like that?
Why do you hate LawBreakers so much? From what I've seen from that game it seems pretty great, it's just that it flopped and there is nobody to play it with.
It's a cool game i really enjoyed it for the month or so when people were playing. I don't know why it flopped so badly because it's really polished a lot of fun with loads of things to unlock as you play. So sad and annoying because now i feel like i wasted my money.
Only Vietnam games I played as a kid were shellshock and a tom clancy game that i forgot the name of both were pretty good but shellshock was my favorite and was actually one of the reasons I debated picking up rising storm 2 Vietnam
anybody know how to get Vietcong 1 running on Windows 10 I have the original discs when I install them the game will not play the screen goes black if anyone could give me any info on this that would be highly appreciated thank you
Vietcong 2 "One of those games where just moving around and then you get killed and often have no clue what the hell it was that just got you" -reviewer. Welcome to the Nam FNG.
We could use a new Vietnam War game. Rather have gotten that than the mediocre CoD WW2. FPS gaming in 2017 was very underwhelming when 2016 gave us great campaigns in Titanfall 2 and Infinite Warfare. 2018, please be better damn it...
Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil, for I am the baddest motherfucker in the goddamn valley. from the Vietnam War..
tired Vietnam War cliches? That's an oxymoron since that's why we love the Vietnam era movies for those crazy cliches. Also we all know it's got the best soundtrack of any War LOL
![[Review Vs.] Shellshock: Nam '67 & Vietcong](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/uzZ97M803G4/mqdefault.jpg)
It ain't me, it ain't me, I ain't no fortunate Sonny Jim...
Make the music louder i can hear you too well
I thought the levels were fine, sorry.
@@Gggmanlives Bruh what's the name of the song in the beginning of the video
@@MelonMafia1 It's from the OST, look up Vietcong 2 OST
Ah, Vietcong series
While I remember original Vietcong being some kind of cult classic, it's ironic how negative the sequel turned out to be.
5uomalainen that's not irony
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Sequel being worse that 1st game is nothing surprising in video games (and movies) industry.
See - Deus Ex (IW)
SpecShadow Fun Fact, in counter strike Dust 2 map was originally going to be called Dust 3 because the creator said "2 is always worse than the first one." Not direct quotes but somewhere in the ballpark.
"at least it's still better than lawbreakers"
BUY THE GAYUEM
Funnily enough, I was actually pretty fond of this game. Then again, I hadn’t ever played the first one...
Vietcong 2 is, for me, the single greatest example of where a sequel takes away everything that made the original so good. As someone who grew up with Vietcong as one of my nostalgic games, Vietcong 2 remains my biggest disappointment in gaming to date. I still remember being let down by the promise of a North Vietnamese campaign, only to be given 4 "bonus" missions instead with no substance. The worst kind of sequel.
And perhaps Blood 2.
I hope I am not too late. I loved Vietcong and I played it as a kid. It's a 2003 game yet it has so fucking much in it. I think I completed it 3 times and I would do it more but old software is not friendly with new software. Kind of hard to play if the game crashes even if there are some sort of small fixes.
Thing is for a 2003 game it's amazing. You have a good looking game with gun or environment sounds that feel well researched. You even have to classic Vietnam music playing. You can hear more if you visit your room in the trenches.
This is why I love this game. It feels immersive and it has good variety of missions. Between missions you are in your room and you can visit firing range to test weapons. In your room you have your radio where you hear some stuff and classic music. You can read files about lore or guns for example. Sometimes you are solo, sometimes you have couple teammates and sometimes you have a squad. All of them have a purpose. For example providing radio support, point man, ammo, medic or just carrying heavy machine gun.
For a 2003 game it's fucking insane how well made it is. Even today games lack this kind of stuff. You would think games today has stuff like archives and some do but not too many. I don't dive into every game but I don't remember the last time I saw archives about lore and guns. It's just stuff games don't bother doing today.
I played Vietcong 2 but it felt like completely different game. After couple missions I stooped playing. For a guy that completes pretty much everything even he sometimes forces himself to finish it I think it says a lot that Vietcong 2 is not great.
as some one who only play games in the hardest difficulty, i gotta say vc2 did it job better than vc1, it fixes a lot of issue vc1 had like the stupid health system. Although it no more a game that resembles "vietcong" but rather some cod bootleg, i still prefer vc2 for its more generous AI and gun play, be honest the tunnel mission in vc1 was stupid, especially on max difficulty
Gggmanlives feat. Guyinhistoilet
That is accurate
Review hidden and dangerous 2
Hey It's Will this so much. Review both H&D games, sonny jim.
HD2 REVIEW + ADDON + MULTIPLAYER!!
I remember loving the first game, despite it was so buggy that half the time I would die from falling through the ground, lol.
Hell yah! Man what a game...
If there's one thing i can applaud about this game, it's it soundtrack. The soundtrack is so fucking dope, especially the main theme song for the game.
Haha rock on Salokin. The music is jamming.
Thanks man, your channel is incredibly underrated
>vietnam game >it ain't me starts playing
*Fortunate Son
Icon of Sin it ain't me**
Fortunate Son is name of band
Every.Fukin.Time.
I mean, song is great but it's overused. There are plenty of other songs from that era (and videogames in that theme). But no, better use Fortunate Son again.
Now here is a twist - I'm not mad because it's that song again. It's because I've played VC2 too and got painful flashbacks. Even though this piece of shit code is out of my hard drive - the pain is real, like I'm playing it right now.
Horror
Horror
It's fortunate son, you plebs.
the horror...the horror...
The best part of this game was the fact that in the first level you could talk to Vietcong 1's protagonist in the bar. Otherwise it was pretty disappointing
Ayy,that little full metal jacket refference
dope
Smooth Operator I was coming on here to say that lol. I counted three.
You should do a review on Rising Storm 2 Vietnam
He's already said that he didn't like it that much in a comment on another video.
My Friends Are Kiwis Oh ok thx
What a shame.
Played Vietcong for years in mature coop communities which one hardly finds these days. Some more serious ArmA clans might be an exception. The sequel had always been a letdown and nobody ever joined the open VC 2 servers, so they were shut down and everyone went back to the good old VC.
If not even the most hardcore VC veterans enjoyed it, there must've been something terribly wrong...
Bunker Knacker as Czech I remember this game was pretty big for years, MP server were online until like 2014
All 18 downvotes are cliffy b's alt accounts.
The amount of references to FMJ and other Vietnam movies had me loving this.
Wow, a collaboration between two of my favorite game reviewers. What a pleasant surprise.
Thanks!
8:46
"....it still better than lawbreakers."
LawBreakers is still a great game, and everything I expected from CliffyB [and then some]. It's just a shame that Nexon is running that damn game into the ground so hard.
Even now, they're content to sit back and whine that PUBG somehow destroyed their game. I'm sure they spent more on that interview than they ever did advertising LB... my hopes at this point are that BKP can break off from Nexon and start over with a major 3.0 patch, alongside an Xbox One release, new characters, and some kind of way to get new players in (like a Battle Royale mode using the zero-G mechanics to make things a little more interesting on the outer edges of the map).
lawbreakers is far from being a bad game but you know, toxicwatch, call of dooters, gayfield 1 etc
+Brupcat Overwatch had a pretty strong start, but sadly I found myself saying that quickly after launch. Support has just been dreadful for the game, and Paladins was pushing quality updates left and right. OB64 is a gigantic mess right now (not for the "muh P2W" nonsense everyone is wrongly crying about, but simply because it isn't a good system), but I'll probably be checking it out again once the dust clears. I highly recommend Paladins even in its current state above Overwatch, it offers far more content and depth to the basic mechanics that Overwatch got right. Also, unlike Overwatch, it has decent level design.
Haha hahaha that's such a great comment. Go away, your ignorance is not needed here.
Bad Texture yeah, it's a good game just marred by no real advertisement and Nexon being who they are. Considering they ran dirty bomb into the ground and kept it a Perpetual beta even though a lot of it is f****** finished and yet they release content as if it were full game why not just call it the full game you lazy bastards!
With the first already being so obscure I never expected you to review the sequel!
Vietcong 1 was amazing, one of the best games I ever played completely ahead of it's time. They really fucked up with the second game.
I'm surprised at the narrative pace of the review being so fluid between both sunny jims... Definitely wanna see another one of these in the future.
Great vid. Salokin is great too. It's the highlight of my day when you post a new review. Love the FMJ quote
Yessss love the new review format! Can’t wait for the new year of great reviews Sonny Jim.
Yes, 2018 has gotten off to a great start with a GGGManlives video!
had to watch this in 360p and thought the art style was actually quite cool, so i was surprised when you said it looks like shiiiet. i'll have to rewatch once 1080p is up
I find the graphics and weapon models pretty good, but those animations... No, just no.
Bonus reviewer was definitely a fun surprise.
What I didn't like was the fact that the sights were much bulkier than in Vietcong 1. At some point the sights just obstruct a view of the target.
I love your videos.
And this is no exception.I really don't know why but your way of analysing and explaining things is incredible.
Please keep making videos like this one
Well that game seems stinky
Review Killzone already
Slyofwar Kehoe “Killzone is a bad game” there’s your review
Actually it was pretty good and considering how many Halo videos are on your channel I think it's a safe bet that your just an irritable Halo fanboy
Is Killzone even all that comparable to Halo, anyway? I know that Sony really pushed the whole "Halo Killer" thing to magazines all over the world, but...the game wasn't developed by Sony, and it's definitely not like Halo. It almost plays like a sci-fi medal of honor, space nazis included.
Well they are both console shooters
I didn't even know they released a second one.
Khyrid did you know I completed the underground tunnel level without a flashlight bcoz I thought I didn’t have one
@@kalencwil3924 War is hell
Hue is where I come from in Vietnam. Feels kinda bad that there aren't really any good games set in the Vietnam war. Good review Gggman. You should bring in more special guests to review games with you. The second voice really does add to the overall entertainment.
Love your stuff! Straght to the point, non of this "hey itsya boy bananagurgler88, sorry for not postig i lost my house and my dog burned down, like and subscribe" shit! Your videos are like the reviews of VG magazines since days past 😊
this game will motivate you sonny jim, if takes every cannibal in the kongo.
Yeah, my boy Salokin!
Why do i fell like he made this video just to make that modern art joke xd
Been waiting along time for this
Love your content dude, great job bringing in another aussie, much love from Canada!
Thanks mate!
Recently found out GGGMan is a red letter media fan. I find new reasons as to why you are my favorite video game reviewer every week.
Gggmanlives and DWTerminator video when?
This was my first game i bought along with Vietcong 1
and oddly i never been able to get it to work in any of my PCs after my first one
Happy new year G3, hope this year will bring on EVEN MORE success and fellow fans then the last !
Happy New Year Gggmanlives! Hope the holidays were awesome.
didnt care for the split review. kinda odd. not like you guys were in the same room lol
True but the court said I had to be 500m from him
I loved it when you reviewed other games as well :) but keep up the awesome work
Maybe give Men of Valor a shot
"it's so ugly it could be a modern art masterpiece"
"I don't know what its major malfunction is..."
Outstanding, GmanLives, out-fucking-standing!
They were in the fucking trees, man! THE FUCKING TREES, MAN!
So that is how you pronounce his name.
FINALLY, THE ANSWER TO THE LIFE LONG QUESTION THAT THE ENTIRE UNIVERSE HAS LONGED FOR HAS FINALLY BEEN GRANTED UPON US MORTALS!!!!!!!!
Never got around to playing this one - even though Vietcong was literally one of my favorite FPS from the early 2000's. I loved the MP in the first game, so I wonder did Vietcong 2 have MP and if it did if it was any good? Sigh, I'd love to see a Vietcong reboot/remaster one of these days.
Geez it hurts to watch this, why would you take me back to VC2??!! The first one was the most overlooked shooter of its day, it deserved a better sequel. Spot on dudes, keep it up :) And wd Salokin, you guys mould together great.
1:20 I wanted to be the first kid on my block to get a cofirmed kill!
4:50 bruh they are in the trees it’s a compliment that you can’t see them I think that’s the point
At least it's not Shellshock 2, where they took the original game which was your normal run-of-mill bargain bin Vietnam FPS, and then added zombies...
It's really sad it turned out like this, i really liked the old one, even played Purple Haze the console version. Though i do get my fix nowadays playing Mud and Blood Recon.
The VC story is unlocked after you beat The Citadel
I loved the first Vietcong. The sequel was the first time I realized why god doesn’t talk to us anymore
Can you do Dusk Episode 2? Since it got a release recently :)
I just played 2 levels on episode 2 and they were awesome. A huge step up from episode 1 and I thought episode 1 was great. But I think GGG would review it only once teh game's fully out. He's already done 2 videos on it and the game isn't even out yet.
I will when it comes out next week.
This game was one of the earliest victims of the "monkey-see-monkey-do-ism" that still plagues shooters to this day.
I see what you did there, with that Full Metal Jacket reference.
For the single-player campaign, it seems like the developers hit a wall in terms of what they could add after the first Vietcong, which along with its expansions, they really reached peak narrative and gameplay. So they seem to have taken a "in the streets" approach with Vietcong 2. The real strength of Vietcong 2 lies in its multiplayer, it was incredibly fun and had an active community, at least until GameSpy shut down :(( (RIP). the single-player was just a bonus tacked onto the main MP attraction for me
I loved Vietcong 1, I've played maybe 1 hour of VC 2 and my heart was crushed
It’s major malfunction is that its developers didn’t show it enough attention whilst making it
This is the next cod leaked
The sad thing is this game is actually superior to all the recent COD games. I wish I was joking but I'm not.
His dead eye post coitus stare speaks volumes
Good to see Salokin here.
CROSSOVER EPISODE
Edit: wow examined life made this joke too >:(
Vietnam Blackops 2 Special Assignment gave me PTSD.
What about Vietcong Purple Haze & First Alpha ... are you going to review those as well . ?
the guns sounded really good from what i remember and the MP was fun
you get to play the V.C. side after you read the guy's diary in the church, 3/4 of the way through the campaign.
The script is read as if GGGman has two personalities.
Btw, check out the Metroid Prime series. Those are a lot of fun and can be set up in an emulator to play as a regular PC FPS.
The game may suck but it's the first time I've heard of Australia being in the war. So for me at least, a learning experience.
How many Czech guys will come to protest here I wonder ;-D
i think he needs to review XENUS 2 WHITE GOLD
I liked that full metal jacket reference
A new year review?! I do wish you should review Men of Valor since that is the only Vietnam War game to be deserved.
i think MoV is worse than VC2
Damage Nhân
Sorry for the late reply. Even though is true. But that doesn't stop him going to do it some day in the future.
Waiting for that Perfect Dark Zero review bros. Or Sonny Jims.
Did old mate record his lines in your shed? But seriously looking forward to more collabs
What is this, a crossover episode?
Defending that US base near the beginning was painful, since the draw distance (due to the "fog") was actually a bit shorter than what some enemies could shoot you from.... How do they even screw up something like that?
and you just saved me for trying to buy this game thanks ggg
I was play 7 Years multyplayer in this game,great game...great clans
Why do you hate LawBreakers so much? From what I've seen from that game it seems pretty great, it's just that it flopped and there is nobody to play it with.
It's a cool game i really enjoyed it for the month or so when people were playing. I don't know why it flopped so badly because it's really polished a lot of fun with loads of things to unlock as you play. So sad and annoying because now i feel like i wasted my money.
It's an easy punching bag.
Can't argue with that. :D
“Still better than lawbreakers” but you can’t hate a multiplayer game if no one plays it
I would love a mod just turning this into a slightly nice Vietcong 1
Cobber's SLR is somehow fully automatic.
3:46 Authentic Vietnam War or 90's Suburban Victorian experience.
Salokin loved your review on dr strangelove
Only Vietnam games I played as a kid were shellshock and a tom clancy game that i forgot the name of both were pretty good but shellshock was my favorite and was actually one of the reasons I debated picking up rising storm 2 Vietnam
anybody know how to get Vietcong 1 running on Windows 10 I have the original discs when I install them the game will not play the screen goes black if anyone could give me any info on this that would be highly appreciated thank you
Vietcong 2 "One of those games where just moving around and then you get killed and often have no clue what the hell it was that just got you" -reviewer.
Welcome to the Nam FNG.
We could use a new Vietnam War game. Rather have gotten that than the mediocre CoD WW2. FPS gaming in 2017 was very underwhelming when 2016 gave us great campaigns in Titanfall 2 and Infinite Warfare. 2018, please be better damn it...
Rising storm 2 if non-casual
Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil, for I am the baddest motherfucker in the goddamn valley. from the Vietnam War..
tired Vietnam War cliches? That's an oxymoron since that's why we love the Vietnam era movies for those crazy cliches. Also we all know it's got the best soundtrack of any War LOL
Can you make your top ten worst games you played? I think that will be interesting video to watch.
- Men of Valor review?
- Shadow Ops: Red Mercury review?
Why does that Salokin guy uses potato as a microphone?
This game felt like a fever dream.