The only reason why Jin was able to beat Kazuya And Heihachi back in honmaru is because Kazuya and Heihachi already fought each other before fighting Jin and Jin was already turning into a devil at that point
Heihachi and kazuya was already fighting. Kazuya on the other hand just got revived after 2 decades and wasn't in fighting shape, considering also the fact that his body has scars and stitches everywhere so he was getting used to his body, and I say this because in tekken 4 he got obliterated by jin, sure. In tekken 5 he slowly gets the hang of things again, then in tekken 6 he was able to draw with lars without devil form while jin got beat in a spar with hwoarang and lost to lars I believe. In tekken 7 he is slowly getting to his peak and back to being kazuya mishima again, able to defeat heihachi and fight with akuma also. I believe in tekken 8 Kazuya will be at his peak and almost unstoppable. He ascends after defeating heihachi and fighting akuma, because in the second reveal trailer it is implied in the fight with jin vs kazuya that jin lost when he says (looks like I have lost...) while sinking I'm water. Then a hand comes down to save him, whether it's the devil jin or not I don't know, but during their first encounter he will lose to kazuya. Even with devil gene, jin still loses because kazuya has better control of it unlike jin who loses control and unable to think. Kazuya is smart and cunning so he'll use that against him. Even kazuy's lightning sparks they are more purplish and darker, meaning he can use devil powers with his own mishima lightning karate, especially considering he can fire lasers in normal form. Then Jin meets Jun and gives him some sort of power or training, and is finally able to control the gene to some extent, then he meets kazuya again after kazuya has probably obliterated the world during jin's training in the middle of nowhere as shown in the first trailer. What happens next I don't know, but I believe jin will defeat kazuya with hard struggle or Jun revolves the whole issue. I hate it when jin fans say he stomped the other mishimas, like bruh kazuya just got back and heihachi was already fighting kazuya. He had to turn to devil jin to finish off heihachi, but decided not to kill him. And heihachi is the weakest mishima, other than old age he cannot beat kazuya and jin in general. He lost to kazuya in tekken 1, then beats kazuya in tekken 2 only because of the conflict with devil and Angel in his mind. He bests kazuya in tekken 4 because, again, he just got aryificially ressurected and isn't in fighting shape. Put tekken 7 or tekken 8 kazuya and jin loses anytime.
@@TimethyclickethAnd for your kind information "in tekken 7 Jin says he has full control on devil gene and he is comming to save world " so there is no chance jin will lose
@@alishanalishan183 He still loses though, its shown in the tekken 8 trailer. Jun will come to give Jin some sort of power or stops the fight, but in the first encounter Jin gets his ass kicked
@@nothisissquidward633Yeah, But Jin fought the Tekken Force and Lost, He was captured and wasn't Physically Nor Mentally in Better conditions than any of the two he fought
The list is shit Hworang defeated jin in tekken 5 and is jin toughest opponet Paul defeated jin and ogre in tekken 3 And they are ranked 8 and 9 Like bro whatt?
@@benrachedahmed1556True law is powerful and annoying because of his move when he keeps flipping I and king is my personal favorite so I will accept that and Steve is strong when u spam square and triangle.
He is talking about Base form In base form (Kazuya = Heihachi)>>>> Jin kazama They both have more stamina ,Endurance, Durability , iq , B iq ,Strength at the same age than Jin so that's why .
@@Blade_runner-dh4dwactually that's accurate. In the storyline he woken up in a premature devil form in attack both of by surprise . Also keep in mind that kazuya was in his base .
Kazuya is not stronger than Heihachi. Heihachi died because of lore reasons, you cannot kill a son in comparison to an old father. That's why. And Heihachi clearly let Kazuya punch him in the end. It could have ended like another Tekken 2 sequence.
@@LiquidOcelotMGS No you didn't understand what I meant. What I meant is that if Heihachi really wanted to kill Kazuya he would. Just like Tekken 2. That's what I meant.
@@TheLordOfTheNight321 Yeah but you also said: "Heihachi died because if lore reasons, you cannot kill a son in comparison to an old father". I am pretty sure Namco did want to kill Kazuya prior to Tekken 3. And besides that, Kazuya did beat Heihachi in Tekken 1 didn't he? That was the only clean match between the two of them.
Gonna have to disagree with that one kazuya has more devil power than Jin so it makes him stronger and kazuya is more experienced or though Jin defeated azael in tekken 6 Kazuya defeats Heihachi in tekken 7
Plus lore wise they can't let an old man survive in comparison to his son, so yeah. Also Heihachi let Kazuya punch him in the end, it was clear. He wanted to die anyways. Because either way this could have ended like Tekken 2 all over again.
@@TheLordOfTheNight321tekken 2 kazuya only lost because he was in conflict with devil and angel in his mind. In tekken 1 kazuya beat heihachi. The only reason he was able to last that long against kazuya in tekken 7 was because of plot and the whole old man tough Japanese trope. Heihachi can't beat kazuya period
According to tekken 1 and 2 instruction manuals the kings were demi gods when the masks were on. It was retcon to make the Mishimas top tier in the story
@@reyabeja3321 My Intention was never to deeply affect you this much. I hope you find the strength to push forward and not become to depressed by this. Redirect that anger and depression from this comment has given you into something more positive in your life.
@@father2955 hwoarang t6 official prologue confirmed that he beat Jin during Tekken 5.. basically, hwoarang beat Jin, Jin transformed and hospitalised hwoarang.. later even winning tournament.. In T8 hwoarang official story, his BIO, it is stated hwoarang defeated devil Jin , so that's twice already Kazuya is 50 years old, never lost a single fight against non mishimas, Jin also lost to Lars in T6 while kazuya didn't.. that's why you see Jin on his knees against Lars
Yeah we saw a lot of endings where paul and law got overpowered by feng but not otherwise And we got the impression that steve was a leader in their group even though you cant take the endings seriously what else are you gonna go with. So yeah feng is stronger and steve might be the better fighter
Woaw,you were correct. (Technicaly,jin is N#2 because he needed a shit ton of buffs to ATLEAST knock-out kazuya. Because of course,our boy is not dead.)
With heihachi dead, kaz is probably the strongest and that is till we see tekken 8 full story i guess. If jin kills kazuya, then he's deffo the strongest.
Bro really forgot Jinpachi existed and that he is the hardest Tekken boss till date 💀
Azazel was harder
@@EVILHOUNDO Tekken 6 Nancy left the chat
@manantyagi2520 but she was easy to beat with jin/kazuya
@@EVILHOUNDO azazel was bigger, not harder
@iajo1843 play on extreme then you will know the pain
Why is Bob on the list😂😂
Bruh understimating bob one belly hit you're dead
Bob is strong bro. He might be fat but he's flexible as fck
@@Narufannykulapu-lapu💀💀
Because he's fast as f did u seeee the tag 2 endings of Bob
Cause he's got, SPEED and WEIGHT!
Jin folded both kazuya and heihachi in tekken 4 with ease
The only reason why Jin was able to beat Kazuya And Heihachi back in honmaru is because Kazuya and Heihachi already fought each other before fighting Jin and Jin was already turning into a devil at that point
Heihachi and kazuya was already fighting. Kazuya on the other hand just got revived after 2 decades and wasn't in fighting shape, considering also the fact that his body has scars and stitches everywhere so he was getting used to his body, and I say this because in tekken 4 he got obliterated by jin, sure.
In tekken 5 he slowly gets the hang of things again, then in tekken 6 he was able to draw with lars without devil form while jin got beat in a spar with hwoarang and lost to lars I believe. In tekken 7 he is slowly getting to his peak and back to being kazuya mishima again, able to defeat heihachi and fight with akuma also.
I believe in tekken 8 Kazuya will be at his peak and almost unstoppable. He ascends after defeating heihachi and fighting akuma, because in the second reveal trailer it is implied in the fight with jin vs kazuya that jin lost when he says (looks like I have lost...) while sinking I'm water. Then a hand comes down to save him, whether it's the devil jin or not I don't know, but during their first encounter he will lose to kazuya. Even with devil gene, jin still loses because kazuya has better control of it unlike jin who loses control and unable to think. Kazuya is smart and cunning so he'll use that against him. Even kazuy's lightning sparks they are more purplish and darker, meaning he can use devil powers with his own mishima lightning karate, especially considering he can fire lasers in normal form.
Then Jin meets Jun and gives him some sort of power or training, and is finally able to control the gene to some extent, then he meets kazuya again after kazuya has probably obliterated the world during jin's training in the middle of nowhere as shown in the first trailer.
What happens next I don't know, but I believe jin will defeat kazuya with hard struggle or Jun revolves the whole issue.
I hate it when jin fans say he stomped the other mishimas, like bruh kazuya just got back and heihachi was already fighting kazuya. He had to turn to devil jin to finish off heihachi, but decided not to kill him. And heihachi is the weakest mishima, other than old age he cannot beat kazuya and jin in general.
He lost to kazuya in tekken 1, then beats kazuya in tekken 2 only because of the conflict with devil and Angel in his mind. He bests kazuya in tekken 4 because, again, he just got aryificially ressurected and isn't in fighting shape.
Put tekken 7 or tekken 8 kazuya and jin loses anytime.
@@Timethyclickethkazuya is Villan and Jin is hero its over jin kazama will win
@@TimethyclickethAnd for your kind information "in tekken 7 Jin says he has full control on devil gene and he is comming to save world " so there is no chance jin will lose
@@alishanalishan183 He still loses though, its shown in the tekken 8 trailer. Jun will come to give Jin some sort of power or stops the fight, but in the first encounter Jin gets his ass kicked
Jinpachi: "Why am I not on the list?"
Gigas: cuz ur weak
Orge: yes
@@kalebayot4113why is gigas saying that
akuma: bc jinpachi is not in list
@@relax_4uthen why ogre is there?
Bro jin straight up defeated heihachi and kazuya back too back without turning into devil jin, also why tf is bob anywhere near the top x
i mean, lore wise he shouldn't be, but tekken 6 bob was FUCKING BROKEN
Yeah thats because Heihachi and Kazuya fought each other before fighting Jin and Jin was already turning into a devil at that point
@@nothisissquidward633Yeah, But Jin fought the Tekken Force and Lost, He was captured and wasn't Physically Nor Mentally in Better conditions than any of the two he fought
@@nothisissquidward633 facts
The list is shit
Hworang defeated jin in tekken 5 and is jin toughest opponet
Paul defeated jin and ogre in tekken 3
And they are ranked 8 and 9
Like bro whatt?
Everyone is strong when the user is strong
- paul
Why he was forgot yoshimitsu he was from tekken 3
@@GASUKE_Gaming idk
This guy doesn’t play tekken
YEAH BRO
100% law , king , steve are much stronger than many character he pick
He just didnt play the earlier tekken like 6, 5
@@benrachedahmed1556True law is powerful and annoying because of his move when he keeps flipping I and king is my personal favorite so I will accept that and Steve is strong when u spam square and triangle.
This list is messed up bad 💀
Fr fr
Real
Hworang should be higher imo
Real
@@mlip8033Hwoa is mid tier....predictable strings get parried or reversed easy
King laughing in the corner😂.. King got the name for a reason
Undoubtedly, Popcorn is also at hand😂
King Fan
Retarded king obsessed noob
Ogre killed the OG king
Bros just sitting there and saying “I guess I’m gonna have to prove them agian”😂
*Tekken 3 Yoshimitsu Has Left The Chat*
Paul be like i am strongest in the universe😂
Devil gene aside, he is. He soloed ogre
@@MrArso99 He beat Ogre before he transformed into True Ogre which Jin beat.
Meawhile Ending Paul Tekken 5=Anytime, Anyplace, Bring it on ya Alien 😂
and before even tekken began paul was on par with kazuya their battle was a stalemate
@@thisnuts1923 you can say draw this is not chess
How tf Jin is standing below Heihachi and Kazuya? He literally demolished them both
He is talking about Base form
In base form
(Kazuya = Heihachi)>>>> Jin kazama
They both have more stamina ,Endurance, Durability , iq ,
B iq ,Strength at the same age than Jin so that's why .
@@saasattt770 he didn't say that taking base form, so that's stiil cap
@@saasattt770 jin base form still stronger hes kicked them both in tekken 4
@@Blade_runner-dh4dwactually that's accurate. In the storyline he woken up in a premature devil form in attack both of by surprise . Also keep in mind that kazuya was in his base .
Jin lost to hwoarang twice..
Plot armor saved jin against the mishimas
bro forgot marshal law and yoshimitsu and paul how they are sooooooo strong
OH YEAH CUZ IF BRYAN IS ON THE LIST THAN YOSHIMITSU SHOULD CUZ DEFEATED BRYAN FURY
Azazel laughing in corner ........
jinpachi is much stronger than him
@@loganghost4924NANCY with her laser beams and bullets
@@loganghost4924tienes razón pero jinpachi le gana a Azazel solo por el gen diabólico
@@Alexanderson_43657 azazel created the devil gene
@@StrangeKiller-to4nw lle bien lo que dije, entrometido
All legends left the chat
Nina Kunimitsu Jinpachi King
???
One of the most powerful character King 👑
King becomes hella predictable at higher ranks
Rarrrr
True, King 1 was strong since Ogro only fights strong ppl. And King 2 was confirmed to be stronger.
No cap king is best
@@killertau- lil Majin
Devil jin and devil left the chat
Ahh yes Ogro.
Ogro FTW
Paul should at least be 4 since he defeated original Ogre
What you are crazy bro
By: DualSHOCKERS bro🤷🏽♂️
@@keisereditzzz6907 so you're a content stealer
@@keisereditzzz6907Soo you actually a thief what an azzhole 😢
What about Law.
Bruce lee
king-'am i joke to you''
DO YOU PLAY BRAWL STAR
@@nitbus5791 what you talking about
😂 first you watch tekken blood vengeance 1 jin 2 kazuya 3 heihachi
Angel Jin, true devil kazuya and demon jinpachi knocking the door
Meanwhile azazel: if I come I will be on the rank 0 thats why i am not there
Jin No1
Azazel laughing in the corner
Jenpaichi joining in
Mokujin already there
its Jinpachi mate 🗿
Mokujin adapting every characters skill☠️
The best for me
Bryan fury
Fahkumram
Law
Jin>Kazuya>Heihachi
Kazuya is not stronger than Heihachi. Heihachi died because of lore reasons, you cannot kill a son in comparison to an old father. That's why. And Heihachi clearly let Kazuya punch him in the end. It could have ended like another Tekken 2 sequence.
@@TheLordOfTheNight321 That doesn't make any sense. You just said it could end like Tekken 2. So in Tekken 2 Father can actually kill son?
@@LiquidOcelotMGS No you didn't understand what I meant. What I meant is that if Heihachi really wanted to kill Kazuya he would. Just like Tekken 2. That's what I meant.
@@TheLordOfTheNight321 Yeah but you also said: "Heihachi died because if lore reasons, you cannot kill a son in comparison to an old father".
I am pretty sure Namco did want to kill Kazuya prior to Tekken 3.
And besides that, Kazuya did beat Heihachi in Tekken 1 didn't he? That was the only clean match between the two of them.
@@LiquidOcelotMGS Bro imagine how different the story would have been if Kazuya remained dead. Granddad versus Grandson. Interesting.
I hate posting negative comments but this list is terrible for so many reasons like you didn’t even try to use logic
Law:forgot me
Yoshimitsu defeat brayan fury 3 times in row
That top 3 is backwards. Lol. Wtf.
Bob? 😂
Gonna have to disagree with that one kazuya has more devil power than Jin so it makes him stronger and kazuya is more experienced or though Jin defeated azael in tekken 6 Kazuya defeats Heihachi in tekken 7
Ogro? You Mean Goro? (Mk REFERENCE LOL)
Paul defeated Jin in tekken 3
Nou, Paul was defeat by King
@Mr.Memo. it is of tekken anime series, in tekken 3 Paul defeated ogre and jin
Paul never had fight Jin, he fought Ogre but didn't win tournaments
@@Yourbrorishabh2 the Anime series is canon
@@Yourbrorishabh2tekken anime series is canon, harada himself stated it
Where is jinpachi azazel alisa devil jin
Devil Jin: You add Jin, but not ME??
No. 1 is Jin Kazama not Hehachi mishima😠😡
but how is heihachi stronger then kazuya if kazuya deafeted heihachi?
Coz heihachi never relies on the power of any devil gene like kazuya always do and is strong enough to deal with devil kazuya with his own strength
Plus lore wise they can't let an old man survive in comparison to his son, so yeah. Also Heihachi let Kazuya punch him in the end, it was clear. He wanted to die anyways. Because either way this could have ended like Tekken 2 all over again.
@@TheLordOfTheNight321tekken 2 kazuya only lost because he was in conflict with devil and angel in his mind. In tekken 1 kazuya beat heihachi. The only reason he was able to last that long against kazuya in tekken 7 was because of plot and the whole old man tough Japanese trope. Heihachi can't beat kazuya period
@@manantyagi2520thats like saying ken is way stronger than gouki because he rely on satsui no hado😂
where's my buddy Law? 🗿🔥🔥🔥🔥
1-Mokujin
Agreed
Nah jinpachi or azael
didnt hwoarang beat devil jin in the story
Azazel on the list? Kazumi? Law? Jun? Jinpachi? Dragunov?
Disagree with dragunov and kazumi but yeah ikr.
I am always Kazama JIN 😮❤❤❤❤❤👊👊👊
Lee beat paul in his prime
Only see the kazuya experience
According to tekken 1 and 2 instruction manuals the kings were demi gods when the masks were on. It was retcon to make the Mishimas top tier in the story
Thnx for the cool ass info man
@@reyabeja3321 My Intention was never to deeply affect you this much. I hope you find the strength to push forward and not become to depressed by this. Redirect that anger and depression from this comment has given you into something more positive in your life.
@@Lordlt82 uhhhh ¿que? I thought the info was cool and said thanks for sharing it. Idk much bout Tekken so learning old tidbits is 👍
@@Lordlt82wtf lol 😂
@@Lordlt82Their answer was genuine and not sarcastic
Akuma laughing in the corner
King, armor king, eddy, devil jin, Paul😏
👇🏻
Jin and devil Jin are the same
I will agree but u got to pit azael and jinpachi on their and ogre.
Put*
WHAT ABOUT MY GUY LAW?😢😢
twhat do you think?
Hwoarang goat
NO FENG GOAT
@@nitbus5791He is very good but jinpachi and azael are better
Brother where is law and lee 😂😂😂
Law laughing in corner
😂
Let Me Fix This
1.Kazuya mishima
2.Heihachi mishima
3.Jin kazama
4. Akuma
5.Azazel
6.Jinpachi Mishima
7.Lars sanderson
8.Bryan Fury
9.Paul phoenix
10.Marshall law
Nina should be on the list
Fr. I only spam kick her till higher ranked, her kick is too op
dude kazuya beat heihachis butt
Powerful?? Miguel should be included on the list
😂😂😂
Really bob but not king 😢😢
Jin is the strongest
Blud forgot Law
How tf you put heihachi as no 1 and kazuya as no 2 , when kazuya actually killed heihachi in tekken 7??
Dragunov and true ogre should be on the list
WHY ELSE WOULD THEY CALL DRAGONOV WHITE ANGEL OF DEATH
True ogre is weak
@@RAYzor_tp not really 😂 he is the god of fighting first of all
Blud forgot Azazal 🙄🥵
Ohhhh!Tekken I remembered the good old days when I used to play it with my friends on the ps2😭
Yes brdr so good memories when playing ps2 with friends in shops before these smart phones era
Yoshimitsu:/
Jin single handedly smashed his father and grandfather in tekken 4 and you think heihachie stronger than Jin !
Hwoarang smashed jin twice
@@Jin_is_poor_mans_kazuya wtf are you talking about howrang ending are not canon accept tekken 5
@@father2955 hwoarang t6 official prologue confirmed that he beat Jin during Tekken 5.. basically, hwoarang beat Jin, Jin transformed and hospitalised hwoarang.. later even winning tournament..
In T8 hwoarang official story, his BIO, it is stated hwoarang defeated devil Jin , so that's twice already
Kazuya is 50 years old, never lost a single fight against non mishimas, Jin also lost to Lars in T6 while kazuya didn't.. that's why you see Jin on his knees against Lars
@@Jin_is_poor_mans_kazuya who's saying look at your profile and keep cry child 😭
@@father2955 I don't like Jin but what I said is factual and official..
You've got nothing on your side but raging, lying and assuming
Where is Law and King😮😂
bro whauttttttt 😂
Is Bryan furry was a cyber?
Paul should definitely be above Feng, and Jin should be above both Mishimas
Feng wei is more powerful than Paul
Yeah we saw a lot of endings where paul and law got overpowered by feng but not otherwise
And we got the impression that steve was a leader in their group even though you cant take the endings seriously what else are you gonna go with. So yeah feng is stronger and steve might be the better fighter
@@vforversatile nah paul stronger even match kazuya and all of his scenes want to fights aliens
BRUH NO FENG IS WAY STRONGER
T6 Nancy rn 😔
jinpachi: 🗿
Marshall law laughing in the corner
Kazuya is number 1 right now. At the end of 7 he "killed" his dad or atleast beat him. But I think jin in taken 8 will be number 1
Woaw,you were correct. (Technicaly,jin is N#2 because he needed a shit ton of buffs to ATLEAST knock-out kazuya. Because of course,our boy is not dead.)
@@mecalegrand3542yeah, but Jin's buffs came from himself where as Kazuya had absorbed the power of Azazel and Jin won when they fought at the end.
In tekken 8 plot armor saved Jin's ass
Where is raven
Jin kazama is bestt
Law is missing in top 3
Azazel laughing at cornor😂😂
Jinpachi: laughing with Azael
Ogre: laughs with him.
Kinda shit list 😂
Do You Really Think Heihachi deserves to Be no.1 🤨
BRUH KAZUYA KILLED HEIHACHI
@@nitbus5791🤨
Miguel be like 😢
Katarina NO.1
NAHH JIN COULD DESTROY HER IN PLUS DEEZ ARE FOR MALES
Marshall law 😢
Welcome to the "King" of iron fist tournament season 4
1. Hwoarang{Hananim}
2. Jinpachi
3. Eddie/Christie/Tiger
4. Mokujin/Tetsujin
5. Steve
6. Feng
7. True Ogre
8. Lee(Violet)
9. Alisa
10. Yoshimitsu
Honorable Mention: Unknown, Combot, Gon, Dr. Bosconovitch, Zafina
How is Steve not in the list. Homie is a punisher and got incredible moves
Fax my cuz always get me with that guy 😂 and im literally on tekken god prime.
Law ????
Heihachi my favorite character💙💛
Bro forgot Lee 💀
Bob before Yoshimitsu, Raven, Nina etc…. wow. Raven flipped a NANCY robot with one hand.
Also the Mishimas are in the wrong order.
king is best
Kazuya mishima's team
👇
With heihachi dead, kaz is probably the strongest and that is till we see tekken 8 full story i guess. If jin kills kazuya, then he's deffo the strongest.
Unknown : hmmm
Azazel?
I. Panda
NO. IS DEVEIL JIN
Tekken8Jin kazuya
😊🎉❤
Jinpachi Mishima Heachi Mishima Kazuya Mishima Jin kazama Devil Jin all laughing in corner
In tekken story:
1.heihachi
2.kazuya
3.king
4.paul
Top 5 for me:
1. Jinpachi
2. Jin
3. Kazuya
4. Heihachi
5. Azazel