Broken Ford Bronco Steering Rack?! Here's HOW TO FIX IT!
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- Опубліковано 6 вер 2024
- At this point, everyone knows that the new Ford Bronco has a real issue of bending and breaking tie rods. From there, a broken steering rack might not be far behind (in addition to the other collateral damage that could occur). And although the Ford Bronco Raptor (and some Bronco trims) have beefier steering racks...they're still far from indestructible. Lucky for us, we found a replacement that IS basically indestructible - the 74Weld billet aluminum steering rack!
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Chris is smart AF, and pride doesn't stop him from being an attentive learner when it's called for. Zero ego in this video. Awesome video
Guest stars are great and really add to the content.... great stuff
Yeah those low tables and benches are brutal on our backs....maybe have another bench available for taller people ⚙️🔩🪛🔧🧰🤷🏼♂️ #chrisknowshissh*t 👍👍👍👍
I've never even changed the oil in a car, but I'm pretty confident I could perform this swap after watching this video. Thanks!
Can we get “Oh yea, I’m in” t-shirts please!!
Definitely future goals to have a full time upgrade mechanic working for me
Good luck finding one as knowledgeable as Chris. I thought I was a mechanic until I saw what he could do and I now feel like I have about as much knowledge about cars as my wife does. I just wish I was half as good as chris
@@tonyyoung3902 yeah for sure they definitely lucked out with him
I mentioned this to Kevin a while back once they started rock crawling the BRaptor. Great product and will be needed for you guys!
Awesome job. When you bringing the stepchild in for all the upgrades you guys were teasing us about?
End of June!
What an amazing piece of engineering! Great work, though I think I'd rather have a nice, simple manual steering, with an hydraulic assist. Is this Bronco drivable if the steering motor fails? reinstalling that rack into the Bronco reminded me of watching the mechanic struggle to get the rack back into my WK - took forever, and I learned some new words! LiteBriteNationBeautifulRack!
Electric racks are still steerable if the assist fails, just the same as hydro racks. Hydro racks can be retrofitted, it was done on the 4600 Ultra4 Broncos, but they're not tougher than this nor do they really offer more steering assist, and they certainly aren't as tight/precise/fast as an electric. Plus you'll have to find a way to mount a hydraulic pump on an engine that was never designed for it, which is no small feat. This rack is the better choice, and if it was around back when the 4600 Broncos were being built, they'd have this rack instead of hydro racks no question. Don't underestimate electric assist, it is absolutely up to the task, it just needs a mechanic up to the task of working on it, and they certainly didn't make it easily accessible. According to service manuals, 5th gen 4runners/3rd gen Tacos are supposed to have their engine lifted partially out in order to access the rack for replacement, so I don't think it's just Ford making them inaccessible.
It’s really interesting to hear a guy who clearly has an engineering background critique and compliment the ford engineering in the same sentence 😂. “I don’t know why they did that, but it works.”
What did I miss? What happened to Chris's nuckle? Lots of swelling under that glove.
I have a wrench like that from Harbor Freight. Comes in handy for track bar jam nuts and pitman arm nuts. I keep it under the rear seat of my Power Wagon.
Good idea ford. Belt and electronics in a steering rack. No fail points there. Nice upgrade
Not for your average shade tree mechanic, pretty technical stuff happening here! In the end, it's changed and working and hopefully holds up to Kevin's driving! 😆 🤣 😂 Happy Trails to you all at LBN!
At this point the next weakest link will probably be the belt or plastic drive gears, followed by the spindle tie rod mount. Gears are easy to reproduce in steel, and they can be made to run a wider and thicker belt. Carli Suspension is working on a double shear tie rod mount for the spindle, so once you get to that point you'd probably have to roll it off the side of a mountain to break anything steering related. It'll eventually be bulletproof, just takes a while for aftermarket to catch up.
What a beautiful chunk of metal!
Great video Chris, if there's a weak spot Kevin will find it 😂. I appreciate you guys making these videos. ❤️❤️💯🤙
Nice piece . Really wanted to see the portals,but sounds like can not do on Raptor version .
I can imagine how much a shop would charge to do this . Most people that own a raptor bronco are not to concerned about money they need to offer this in a complete kit no matter the cost. A lot easier to modify a Jeeps 392 steering box . Great video just not for the average person to ever enjoy.
I’ve done the steering on my 392 and this is way way easier
The clip at the end; you can almost hear the modem noise as Chris' brain reconnects to his thought string. 😁😁
Hello thanks for the video, would you happen to know how to center the steering wheel on the bronco raptor? If it was a jeep I could do it in seconds I just had the alignment done and wheel is off-center and it’s just a hassle to go back to the shop I can’t find anything online I’m assuming I have to pull off all the skids underneath find the drag link if there is a drag link just trying to get a Headstart any info would help thanks👍👍👍
Watching videos like this while I draft up a Soil Nail wall in Civil 3d makes the day go by faster.
74 weld seem like good peeps. I like this design a lot. Its nice to be able to swap over good parts to lower the cost. I can see a Titanium version of this for KOH in their future.
#Jeeplife !
No portals for the BRaptor? That sucks, we want to run 40s too!
Nice Cresent wrench
Nice Rack Chris!!🤣 I like watching the Bronco videos, from the very first one to the Raptor. They are constant reminders why I will never own one!!!🤷♂
Solid gold content as always! Kevin its still your fault but we will blame brit as usual ! BAHA
Everyone needs a chris in there life, preferably one that knows when hes in.
Why use a hyd press when you can use a BFH!
LOL Kevin done dropped the phone and started walking to the Bronco when you said that's a Bet Kevin. So he missed all the begging him not to barke it! 😂
Love the Bronco vids!
I never realized the steering rack had so many bearings. I see ball bearings, needle bearings, the ball screw being one of the biggest components.
Actually a servo motor moving a ball screw, guided by a bushing, this is basically a linear actuator. I just find it interesting because I used to work for THK (who makes actuators, linear guides, ball screws)
Chris: Don’t break it Kevin
Kevin: Hold ma beer
Want to build a whole vehicle around 74 Weld portals
Great Content and Video 👍Have a Great Day 👍
God Bless America 🇺🇸🙏🇺🇸
This is the problem with modern engineering. In the old days they didn't have the ability to easily engineer right to the edge of being just strong enough so there was a healthy safety margin built in. They over built on purpose but now we intentionally get as close to being underbuilt as possible to save literal pennies on a part and here we are with exploding steering racks from a company thats been making steering racks for a 100 years.
What is your recommendation for someone with a 21 badlands? Just get a 3.0 AND the 74 weld rack body or is there another option?
Question, would replacing that internal belt, with gears , be considered an upgrade? If it’s even possible to do?
The belt is going to be fine for 99% of guys out there. Blanket statements like “belts are weak” are not really correct. If we see lots of belt failures we will address it, but I don’t think it is a problem
THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID CHRIS !
Hard core
A Ford with no check engine light? Did you just clear the codes.
The wall clock is straight up 12 noon 🤔
great vid! i have a pretty interesting project in mind. i am determined to make it work. how do i contact you guys to help me with the project?
We are no longer taking in any projects
Chris you know what kevin is going to do right?
Company should just charge a core charge and ship the part ready to go
I wish we could. Ford has 5 different racks between all the broncos and they are not interchangeable. Couple that with the fact we can’t get cores and we are in the situation we are in. Trust me, I would rather just ship a complete unit!
How about this. If Kevin breaks it again, you guys do a SAS swap
Good ole Ford quality 😂😂
Oh yes, I'm in... (that's what she said)
the same guy that came up with push button 4wd and vacuum hubs invented electric power steering
Vacuum hubs are terrible. Electric power steering will absolutely dominate the future. If you give it a underpowered motor you will think it sucks. But electric has so many more possibilities from a programming standpoint. I will say that in the next 5 years you will see electric steering on ultra4
@@74weld you are brobley right i may have jumped the gun on my comment about electric power steering but nothing will change my mind on vacuum 4wd
Don't "try" to break it Kevin!
I can only imagine what that would cost to have a company install that rack.
It’s not that bad. It takes about half a day
Shop rates are usually around $1-2K for install, the rack itself is $3K, and if you don't have a 3.0 donor rack you'll have to buy one of those too for $1-2K. High end, $7K, low end, $4K. What really drives the cost up is the electronic integration of the rack to make it play nice with the rest of the Bronco, as you'll still get the same lane assist and whatnot. The Bronco will think it still has the original rack, except the actual rack is similar in strength to hydro assist racks used in competition IFS rigs and desert trucks (which start off at $5K and go way up from there).
@@Skinflaps_Meatslapper I hope a shop doesn’t charge 2K to do this. If they do they don’t know what they are doing. If they don’t know what they are doing they are not one of our dealers. I don’t like to dictate shop rate but it seriously is no more than hand a day.
@@quinnpultz8004 The shop rate I was quoted is a bit over $1K to swap my 3.0 over to your housing, install, and a realignment. With the way Bronco tax works, it wouldn't surprise me one bit to see a shop charging over $2K for it at some point in the future. But if you guys are being selective about who you're partnering up with, then maybe that's not going to be an issue. Speaking for others, it would be nice if you guys made a 2.0 housing so Bronco owners wouldn't have to buy a 3.0 rack and have it programmed into order to get your housing. Seems to me it's just a matter of making the housing accept the 2.0 motor and gears, as from what I can tell the shaft and the rest of that fun stuff is identical. There are already people swapping 2.0 motors into 3.0 racks to sidestep the programming, and everything bolts up...surely it can't be all that different. The 3.0 motor is a nice upgrade and that's the way I'm going with mine, but there's a lot of guys out there that would rather just use their own rack and are fine with a bit less steering torque.
Rack problems
Step 6: Bang on floor 😂
Ok, what gives? The huge crescent wrench was too obvious without a reason.
IFS is garbage. Theres a shop in Texas that can do an pgraded front axle.
A $3600 rack! Oh boy
What’s it cost to get recovered in the middle of nowhere with your family in the vehicle on your first day of your vacation? A broken steering rack means you are stranded where you break and could ruin an entire vacation/trip.
@@LiteBrite I don’t disagree. But I just feel the Bronco tax is a bit out of control on this deal
First Agin!!
Nope
Wasn't that Raptor 130,000
No, we paid 115
You’d be way ahead of the game if ya used the $5K you’re going to have in the steering alone and put it towards a D60. It’s like watching a Fox body guy try to go fast and refuse to just go LS!
👍❤️ #Jellynation
SAS Swap fixed 😂
Twenty first from Michigan 🤷🏻♂️
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Knowing ford engineers it’s most likely human error at the manufacture. Of course they make the initial run for tens of thousands … later revision there won’t be an offset. 💁🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️
So, the Bronco is made to drive to Walmart and not off road! Perfect!
I still can't believe that Ford used a rubber belt for the steering motor.
Hahaha I finally got first
Three way Tie!
Remember the days when steering parts were made of steel and you didn’t have to worry about them. Pretty sad that such an important system is su under built. Get your crap together ford.
Gotta keep that weight down for EPA 🤦♂️
WTF did ford use the same steering rack!?!? Ithink all the EV builds have killed their brain cells.
The electric steering is really a great idea. Electric motors can put out a ton of torque, and unlike hydraulics you can make the torque you want at any RPM. I firmly believe that electric steering is the future for offroad once it’s done right. But it’s not up to me. All OEM’s are doing it so you can either develop better electric systems or get passed up. Electric if done right will smoke a traditional hydraulic system in the rocks and at high speed…give it time, it’s good
Ridiculously Poor design to begin with 👎 . . . . If you ask me
I'm still thinking a solid axle bronco would be better lol...
That’s called a Jeep. 🤣
@@LiteBrite nah I mean your right but could still be the bronco lol
Broncbuster showed that a stock Bronco with portals does better than a SAS Bronco on Mickey Thomson 40s