I know both Dave and I have taught for him in the past. I also know Mike very well. They have different skill set priorities. Mike's is primitive and he is one of the best at it. And free classes don't fill. when you give this stuff away for free people don't put any value on it. my classes use to be super cheap and no one signed up. I upped the price and guess what, lots of students. go figure! We don't do it for the money, but it does help us expand ;)
I always liked this style shelter. Sure wish I were younger, I would be out now piling up sticks in the woods here at Dirtwater. Getting old bones, I now need to stay a little warmer so I go for the tipi's now. Easy to make on the spot with some tarp or plastic and can be nice and toasty with a small internal fire. Hoping to post more videos soon on fast tipi's from salvaged tarps or plastic. Yep, this stuff is fun and makes for readiness.
And, Main Primitive will be teaching at The Pathfinder Gathering this year. I'll learn from as many different styles of survivalism and approaches and techniques as possible. Whoever marries themselves to one skillset deprives themselves of all the others. Keep up the great work S3SS.
sounds like a great guy to me. i tend to go for most primitive skills but i also do modern wilderness survival along with emergency preparedness. I ain't "certified" but i reckon i don't need to be. i've been there and done almost anything imaginable. pry explains why i don't get many students or kids interested in survival. thanks for the knowledge!
In deep snow a 'cold sump' makes a huge difference. Basically a sort of pit at one end to keep the coldest air lower than the floor level. Worth reading up on. As an ex Canadian soldier I've spent hundreds of days outside in the winter and even in an arctic tent with a small stove we always used one. I agree 100% with the way he built the 'beds'. The air will be far warmer even a foot off the ground. Good vid.
I just think you have a lot to learn about Dakota pits, stoves and reflecting heat. And there is a lot to learn. I would think a person who subjects themselves to possibly more wood fires than the average person ( but maybe not) would be finding every reason to use them esp in enclosed areas since regular wood fires cause so much lung disease, and other damage and being very unsafe/inefficient. So I will let experience be the best teacher and leave you to your own methods. I wish you well.
For water proofing a structure, one of the weakest points is the ridge pole where rain can run down each exposed stick and down into the inside. You might try putting the tarp over the completed and trimmed top of the ridge pole, then below as far as you have material to cover. The base is usually thickest and most dry. So long as the ridge pole and structural poles will support three times the weight of the dry covering, you have a safe structure when wet, at least mechanically. The lashing you used at each end was very, very dicey. Not a place to be sloppy or spare lashing materials.
what would the benefits of a double lean too be versus a teepee, i have built em all, but a tee pee seems like the best shelter no matter the location....with a rockfire inside
you can't direct heat that is buried a foot in the ground. I use dakota firepits all the time. They are great when you have a sleeping bag and warmth isn't a great issue. And don't get your feelings hurt because I said ass. I'm rough around the edges.
Nice shelter. My shelter in my bug out spot is a huge (sleeps two couples) A-frame super shelter with a built in fire pit and a vent hole similar to yours. I also made a door from branches and boughs in order to keep animals out at night and when nobody is there. Took forever to build with just an Esee Junglas and a Silky Pocket Boy but in the end it was well worth the time
dakota firepits put out no radiant heat. they shoot heat straight up. you would freeze your ass off with that setup in this shelter. guaranteed. I do it for a living.
Question: On that raised bed, do you pack leaves underneath it for insulation? Theoretically, doing that would keep from your body heat sinking and it would hold & retain far more heat than just having air there. The leaves or whatever else you use (pines) wouldn't be compacted, but stuffed in there loosely (think goose fill). I'd pack either bark of a mate of loose pine needles compacted for the floor under the bed, then the loose fill on top of that. It's a system I've been thinking about.
Lash around all 3 poles, with gaps between, several times, then go to the gaps and lash around your cordage several times, when you stand them up and begin to seperate the lashings will twist and tighten up.
60% of your fuel is wasted in unburnt smoke in any fire. Having 2 or 3 Dakota Pits , or one longer narrower one with stones on top inside makes more sense because the containment makes the fire more safe, more hot, less smoky. If the ground is frozen have a ground fire or 2 to loosen up the frost to dig the pit. Using tarps inside the tent increases their longevity from protection from wind, sun rain and snow. They can still catch water from melted snow and rain as well.
Amazing videos.. stumbled across these when planning for a mini survival trip with ny brother and have learned a lot of valuable information, keep it up! Oh and btw was that a huntaway dog I saw there? Cutest things ever.
Sigma 3 please can you make a video on the knot you made in the wikup video to make the tripod because i spent a whole day trying to make a debris shelter and a wikiup and then it falls apart when i put it up. plzzzz
Hey, Joey, relax guy... Do you do survival training for a living? Have you ever done anything more than Theory? Have you ever tried to use a DFP in an enclosed structure with a vented roof? Explain to me exactly how you would "direct" the heat from the fire to go sideways or even diagonally instead of straight up, like heat does. What you suggest is like pointing a heat lamp Down at a water tank in winter, it ain't gonna thaw until spring. Mylar Would do it, but that's not primitive survival.
subscribed...not sure about these other fucksticks but im a citslicker thats done my share of trompin in the wilderness and all the info in your vids so far has been pretty accurate and based on good logic.
I see in most of these shelter vids they use rocks to heat with. Great idea but they should mention some rocks will explode like a grenade with heat! Sedimentary rocks are the most dangerous and should be avoided!
Some people for sure dont know what they are doing and just make up "good ideas" to get viewers. Poor amateurs who would get their face ripped off by a stone the first time they have made such shelter.
I guess we are assuming everybody has a chain saw handy during there survival dalima? Just saying, noticing you have used one. Try building that with just a knife
+walter zatopek-powers look at the cuts numb nuts. he either had a hand saw, chain saw, or found a bunch of tops in the woods to use. no matter witch a tool was still used butt talker.
+walter zatopek-powers probably best if your going to show a video of how to build a shelter with no tools would be to do it with out having had used tools.
That doesn't make him the best in the country. Any man who lies to get what he wants does not make him great, it means he will lie to get his way. Not saying the man isnt a great survivalist, but some one who lies is showing his true character.
a man could do it for 70 years but that doesn't mean he is a great teacher. what happened to guys that teach folks Survival Skills because they love it and like to help folks out? there is barely any folks out there now days that classes that youdon't have to pay for. I was offered tons of money to work for the Boy Scouts but dint accept. i love teaching kids and helpin folks learn and become more one with nature.
building something like that is not practical in a survival situation, your not on vacation and not just out camping, this would be a semi perm camp and you would be better off with a tent in this case. This would be a waste of calories in a survival situation when your can build smaller dryer warmer.
KingKatRider in a survival situation in say.. my climate, Canada, in the winter... you would need something at least this insulated, or you'd be dead... it gets lower than -50 here sometimes, and a tent won't help you in that unless it's like a mining tent with a woodstove or something... it might not be practical, but in some climates, it's basically the only choice...
So frinkin what, like reality shows don't "embellish" their content about the people , good for him playing that show, or whatever he did, since neither one of us were there, though he's still a great man and puts out highly educational videos often. Good try, trying to start something.
Man that is the weakest shelter I ever seen! I wouldn’t let a forest animal stay in that. You would be better sleeping outside than under that crap. You should be ashamed for even showing that .
I'll make sure I tell my ass that next time I sleep near one. I'll let it know you do it for a living. It might even be convinced. We'll see. I never expected such a hateful and nasty response. Shame on you. You overlook a very important safe useful tool. Dakota pit heat can be directed just like every other kind of fire.and without the smoke if its done right.
Mike has been doing it 20 years longer than Dave Canterbury and he is one of Tom Browns top students and past caretakers.
I know both Dave and I have taught for him in the past. I also know Mike very well. They have different skill set priorities. Mike's is primitive and he is one of the best at it. And free classes don't fill. when you give this stuff away for free people don't put any value on it. my classes use to be super cheap and no one signed up. I upped the price and guess what, lots of students. go figure! We don't do it for the money, but it does help us expand ;)
I built one that is similar on a bushcraft outing. For my area it is more than I will probably ever need. Very warm.
I love the dogs running around playing. lol
Great vid. Will have to try this in the Boreal Forrest of Canada
I always liked this style shelter. Sure wish I were younger, I would be out now piling up sticks in the woods here at Dirtwater. Getting old bones, I now need to stay a little warmer so I go for the tipi's now. Easy to make on the spot with some tarp or plastic and can be nice and toasty with a small internal fire. Hoping to post more videos soon on fast tipi's from salvaged tarps or plastic. Yep, this stuff is fun and makes for readiness.
going back and reviewing your old videos great stuff thanks for sharing always learning
And, Main Primitive will be teaching at The Pathfinder Gathering this year. I'll learn from as many different styles of survivalism and approaches and techniques as possible. Whoever marries themselves to one skillset deprives themselves of all the others. Keep up the great work S3SS.
sounds like a great guy to me. i tend to go for most primitive skills but i also do modern wilderness survival along with emergency preparedness. I ain't "certified" but i reckon i don't need to be. i've been there and done almost anything imaginable. pry explains why i don't get many students or kids interested in survival. thanks for the knowledge!
In deep snow a 'cold sump' makes a huge difference. Basically a sort of pit at one end to keep the coldest air lower than the floor level. Worth reading up on. As an ex Canadian soldier I've spent hundreds of days outside in the winter and even in an arctic tent with a small stove we always used one. I agree 100% with the way he built the 'beds'. The air will be far warmer even a foot off the ground. Good vid.
I just think you have a lot to learn about Dakota pits, stoves and reflecting heat. And there is a lot to learn. I would think a person who subjects themselves to possibly more wood fires than the average person ( but maybe not) would be finding every reason to use them esp in enclosed areas since regular wood fires cause so much lung disease, and other damage and being very unsafe/inefficient. So I will let experience be the best teacher and leave you to your own methods. I wish you well.
i love what yall you guys do keep it trying like hell to get some time away from work to attend a class are two
This really helps me because I build alot with my dad. We so far made a lean-to and a Tempe
this is great,always enjoy sigma3 videos and always learn something,thanks guys
That was awesome ..can't wait to try it ..keep the video's coming .
Lifting people up off the ground (to receive more heat from a fire) is a good tip.
For water proofing a structure, one of the weakest points is the ridge pole where rain can run down each exposed stick and down into the inside. You might try putting the tarp over the completed and trimmed top of the ridge pole, then below as far as you have material to cover. The base is usually thickest and most dry. So long as the ridge pole and structural poles will support three times the weight of the dry covering, you have a safe structure when wet, at least mechanically. The lashing you used at each end was very, very dicey. Not a place to be sloppy or spare lashing materials.
he is on our featured channel list. maine primitive skills
what would the benefits of a double lean too be versus a teepee, i have built em all, but a tee pee seems like the best shelter no matter the location....with a rockfire inside
i don't care if he got booted from the SHOW. its there for entertainment. he is a great teacher and expert as far as im concerned
you can't direct heat that is buried a foot in the ground. I use dakota firepits all the time. They are great when you have a sleeping bag and warmth isn't a great issue. And don't get your feelings hurt because I said ass. I'm rough around the edges.
Good video. Very informative. Cool to see you suggest someone else's channel and humbly give them credit. Thanks.
Nice shelter. My shelter in my bug out spot is a huge (sleeps two couples) A-frame super shelter with a built in fire pit and a vent hole similar to yours. I also made a door from branches and boughs in order to keep animals out at night and when nobody is there. Took forever to build with just an Esee Junglas and a Silky Pocket Boy but in the end it was well worth the time
dakota firepits put out no radiant heat. they shoot heat straight up. you would freeze your ass off with that setup in this shelter. guaranteed. I do it for a living.
Question: On that raised bed, do you pack leaves underneath it for insulation? Theoretically, doing that would keep from your body heat sinking and it would hold & retain far more heat than just having air there. The leaves or whatever else you use (pines) wouldn't be compacted, but stuffed in there loosely (think goose fill). I'd pack either bark of a mate of loose pine needles compacted for the floor under the bed, then the loose fill on top of that. It's a system I've been thinking about.
How so? Had several people, myself included, spend several nights in it in all types of conditions.
This was posted on my birthday! you guys are really cool by the way!
cool ill add that to my book of shelters
Great work! All the best, SNAKE
Awesome vids. Im a huge outdoors kinda guy. Had to sub! Thanks
yes. buts its different for different courses. 12 years old for basic classes is the minimum
Lash around all 3 poles, with gaps between, several times, then go to the gaps and lash around your cordage several times, when you stand them up and begin to seperate the lashings will twist and tighten up.
-20 degrees is NOTHING compared to Canadian weather you will have to double layer everything XD
Do you add a tarp for wet cold weather conditions? My old school Army poncho adds a good barrier on top of a bed
love the dogs
lol... when the camera angle shows the 4 guys in the shelter, then the 3 dogs are in there too xD lmfao. 6:20 good times.
Nice shelter thnx... Btw, WHO LET THE DOGS OUT!? Lol
Every time at the end of the video when he shoots the bow towards the cameras point of view I sense that I am being shot at in the gut lol.
True in northern Canada i wud use material from forest and make that bby alot thicker cuz its alot colder cheers
Great vid. Keep it up.
Thnxs 4 sharing
This was made on my b day
Shower curtain would help a lot i imagine, with the rain that is, i havent finished the video.
60% of your fuel is wasted in unburnt smoke in any fire. Having 2 or 3 Dakota Pits , or one longer narrower one with stones on top inside makes more sense because the containment makes the fire more safe, more hot, less smoky. If the ground is frozen have a ground fire or 2 to loosen up the frost to dig the pit. Using tarps inside the tent increases their longevity from protection from wind, sun rain and snow. They can still catch water from melted snow and rain as well.
Loved Tom Browns Jrs Scout class. Still cant find anyone to practice the Scout stuff with tho. Spring Hill, Tn. Lemme know!
What knot did you use to attach the ridge line to the main trees ?
Amazing videos.. stumbled across these when planning for a mini survival trip with ny brother and have learned a lot of valuable information, keep it up!
Oh and btw was that a huntaway dog I saw there? Cutest things ever.
Cool bulldog
Sigma 3
please can you make a video on the knot you made in the wikup video to make the tripod because i spent a whole day trying to make a debris shelter and a wikiup and then it falls apart when i put it up. plzzzz
Will the snow smelt if you have a fire in the double lean to?
Hey, Joey, relax guy... Do you do survival training for a living? Have you ever done anything more than Theory? Have you ever tried to use a DFP in an enclosed structure with a vented roof? Explain to me exactly how you would "direct" the heat from the fire to go sideways or even diagonally instead of straight up, like heat does. What you suggest is like pointing a heat lamp Down at a water tank in winter, it ain't gonna thaw until spring. Mylar Would do it, but that's not primitive survival.
its awsome
awesome
Have you ever had problems with the weather blowing your roof material off?
sigma is there a age restriction to go and train and practice at your place?
subscribed...not sure about these other fucksticks but im a citslicker thats done my share of trompin in the wilderness and all the info in your vids so far has been pretty accurate and based on good logic.
Nice dofs
up here in Canada we normaly call that a a-frame
THIS IS A GREAT ... TRACKER!!!!!....SHELTER
THEN YOU START...... TRACKER!!!.......BUILDING
MAKE.... A TRACKER!!!!!!..... BED
can you make a vid on how to sharpen a survival knife???
Why do I always watch random shit like this when im sleepy? last night it was telekinesis.... wtf?
good tip, gonna try telekinesis
thanks
WIth the fire in the shelter, aren't you afraid of your bed catching fire and doesn't it smoke you out??
no, you always put your shelter in out of the weather locations
Do a cane pole vid
Any wind will erase those leaves in 10 min.
I want to build a lean to that i can use my hammock with.
I see in most of these shelter vids they use rocks to heat with. Great idea but they should mention some rocks will explode like a grenade with heat! Sedimentary rocks are the most dangerous and should be avoided!
Some people for sure dont know what they are doing and just make up "good ideas" to get viewers. Poor amateurs who would get their face ripped off by a stone the first time they have made such shelter.
How do I avoid getting shot by the bush?
Wouldn't a 'double Lean To" just be an A frame tent/structure?
How much is your school
whats mikes channel name
open sides.
I guess we are assuming everybody has a chain saw handy during there survival dalima? Just saying, noticing you have used one. Try building that with just a knife
+MrBiggreedy jacka** this guy can make this shelter with no tools. So before talking out your butt, why dont you educate yourself first.
+walter zatopek-powers look at the cuts numb nuts. he either had a hand saw, chain saw, or found a bunch of tops in the woods to use. no matter witch a tool was still used butt talker.
+MrBiggreedy just because he did doesn't mean he had to
+walter zatopek-powers probably best if your going to show a video of how to build a shelter with no tools would be to do it with out having had used tools.
+MrBiggreedy I built one with just my teeth once, and it looked better than that.
That doesn't make him the best in the country. Any man who lies to get what he wants does not make him great, it means he will lie to get his way. Not saying the man isnt a great survivalist, but some one who lies is showing his true character.
Be sure to put up a video. :)
__what would happen if a bear (Grizzly) came into that shelter? :D
If you listen he explains, this is for winter, that is when bears hibernate, you have heard of this, right?
a man could do it for 70 years but that doesn't mean he is a great teacher. what happened to guys that teach folks Survival Skills because they love it and like to help folks out? there is barely any folks out there now days that classes that youdon't have to pay for. I was offered tons of money to work for the Boy Scouts but dint accept. i love teaching kids and helpin folks learn and become more one with nature.
best guy in the country? idk about that now. to ME the best men in our country are Dave Canterbury & Tom Brown Jr. he may be the best to you.
Arctic?Um.....you do know there are no trees in the Arctic,right?
Coming from some one who calls themselves James Bond rofl!
Hmmmm.... yummy, human BBQ.
but they wont have a nice coating of BBQ sauce:( and might as well hang a sign that says free human BBQ for bears.
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Have you forgotten Joe Tedi????????????
awesome hay do you guys have a UA-cam channel if you do can I check it out
building something like that is not practical in a survival situation, your not on vacation and not just out camping, this would be a semi perm camp and you would be better off with a tent in this case. This would be a waste of calories in a survival situation when your can build smaller dryer warmer.
KingKatRider in a survival situation in say.. my climate, Canada, in the winter... you would need something at least this insulated, or you'd be dead... it gets lower than -50 here sometimes, and a tent won't help you in that unless it's like a mining tent with a woodstove or something... it might not be practical, but in some climates, it's basically the only choice...
I'm at 10000 ft in the top of the Rockies, you don't get colder than here and snow don't get deeper than here. I camp year round, just sayin
It's mostly about staying warm not the convenience of a tent
ok are you share
The same Dave Canterbury that got booted from Dual Survival for embellishing his resume? Or did you mean a different one?
So frinkin what, like reality shows don't "embellish" their content about the people , good for him playing that show, or whatever he did, since neither one of us were there, though he's still a great man and puts out highly educational videos often.
Good try, trying to start something.
Who in the fuck is joe tedi?
ever heard of google?
Man that is the weakest shelter I ever seen! I wouldn’t let a forest animal stay in that. You would be better sleeping outside than under that crap. You should be ashamed for even showing that .
I'll make sure I tell my ass that next time I sleep near one. I'll let it know you do it for a living. It might even be convinced. We'll see. I never expected such a hateful and nasty response. Shame on you. You overlook a very important safe useful tool. Dakota pit heat can be directed just like every other kind of fire.and without the smoke if its done right.
i would not buy you trucks.
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