The Problem With Saints Row 2022

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  • @DarkSpaceStudios
    @DarkSpaceStudios  2 роки тому +117

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    FYI
    I've seen a few people question the use of the term " Woke. " To be woke means to be alert to injustice in society. These "Saint's" make a huge speech on the roof about poor paying jobs, managers, and general "injustices" for their generation. So I feel that It's very much an accurate use of the word. I don't agree that it's disingenuous or ignorant. I actually think the term has taken on a life of its own, and people have many different understandings of the term. This isn't a political stance, the term "woke" is being used to describe the characters and writing. They seem focused on pandering to a specific group or type of younger people. The type that doesn't wear a shirt 24/7 yet has headphones around the neck at all times- spitting out quirky dialogue that's pretty bland and hipster-esk. As someone in the comments said: This whole game feels like the embodiment of "pat yourself on the back" and "participation trophies".
    What do you guys think?

    • @TheOnlyTaps
      @TheOnlyTaps 2 роки тому +3

      🙌🏿🔥

    • @1981troyboy
      @1981troyboy 2 роки тому +3

      tooo bad co-op on pc doesnt work at all.

    • @Ash888Mohd
      @Ash888Mohd 2 роки тому

      I❤Rockstar

    • @TabiTheCat
      @TabiTheCat 2 роки тому +1

      I get that its shit, dont get me wrong, but 3 was bearable. 4 was just awful and they seem to slide off a cliff of quality after that, at least those had competent game design back then, even if they were awful. Volition sucks.

    • @Rebcap05
      @Rebcap05 2 роки тому +4

      You seem to be a millennial complaining about millennials, which newsflash, isn't restricted to millennials, it's generational.
      Because parents, and their parents believed that fearing a non-existent god and that "hard work" means "being beaten for doing absolutely nothing wrong", and everything that should be seen as "bad" good and vice versa. I mean, is it bad that civil rights happened? The Bible/Torah/Quran says so, even if they'll change the words to those books to make it "more accessible". We just need to understand that our morality, ethics, beliefs will die with us, unless you indoctrinate people, which is proven to be illegal for governments, cults, but not the "religions", "schools", "workplaces", or "news networks".

  • @swaggerdagger8976
    @swaggerdagger8976 2 роки тому +2313

    It's not even just bad for the Saints Row franchise, this game failing has probably proved to Rockstar that they can do whatever they want with GTA because there isn't really any competition

    • @Xighor
      @Xighor 2 роки тому +233

      Which is again angers me
      This game could have and should have been the best game of the year easily
      Ive been a fan of the series since I first played SR2
      Bought SR3 day one, bought SR4 day one
      The wait for SR5 was a long time and when it got announced I was shattered
      What made the Devs think it would be a good idea to try to make some Hybrid, not only that make it woke, have a new unlikable cast of characters, they ruined the whole franchise and destroyed the company literally go woke go broke
      Should have been some new badasses, jacked and psychopaths if not the Old Crew, likable people too
      Compare Johnny Gat to Eli..
      This wasn't there first fuck up, this is there fourth

    • @salvador_mano4x4
      @salvador_mano4x4 2 роки тому +62

      Also, can show rockstar to take care of their product, and what don't do in "6"

    • @ransacked
      @ransacked 2 роки тому +52

      This is why we have saints row in the state we do. Everyone kept comparing saints row to the gta series that now we have saints woke.

    • @Don_Orotelli
      @Don_Orotelli 2 роки тому +14

      It is bad for the franchise. No one's gonna buy this game

    • @JesseWhiteman117
      @JesseWhiteman117 2 роки тому +15

      Let's be honest here. Even if it was successful it wouldn't faze them.

  • @Miltypooh2001
    @Miltypooh2001 2 роки тому +815

    Old saints row: gangsters screwing other gangs for territory
    New Saints row: college kids wanting to be gangsters to pay student loans

    • @Apollyon2119
      @Apollyon2119 2 роки тому +59

      Right! That's what I've been saying lol. Gangsters don't go to college....evenless pay off student loans lmao.

    • @lgk9589
      @lgk9589 2 роки тому +7

      theres one joke about paying off student loans lmao

    • @Mordraneth
      @Mordraneth 2 роки тому

      @@lgk9589 That's literally the story: they are tired of struggling to pay rent and student loans, so they start a gang...

    • @lgk9589
      @lgk9589 2 роки тому +6

      @@Mordraneth they start a gang cause they don't wanna get pushed around by the other Ganga anymore and the student loans thing was one joke they just need money to pay rent which is a reason alot of people end up turning to crime

    • @lemotion3771
      @lemotion3771 2 роки тому +26

      @@lgk9589 It was just cringy to me, seems like they're trying to target college-aged people, but don't have any on the team; any jokes they make come off as weird and unnatural when they try to be relatable. That's at least how it came off to me, I just hated a lot of the dialogue.

  • @dogwithhat947
    @dogwithhat947 2 роки тому +138

    Ngl the writing is basically “I’m going to tell you exactly what I’m doing because you’re stupid and this is a sitcom”

    • @DarkSpaceStudios
      @DarkSpaceStudios  2 роки тому +20

      Yes!

    • @dogwithhat947
      @dogwithhat947 2 роки тому +2

      @@DarkSpaceStudios I love your content keep up the good videos

    • @RBH75667
      @RBH75667 2 роки тому +2

      Exactly even in the end of the game the boss says something along lines of 'were back where it started'

  • @SlickRicksCrumbs
    @SlickRicksCrumbs 2 роки тому +288

    The writing is what happens when you get BuzzFeed employees to make a gang

    • @c0ya1
      @c0ya1 2 роки тому +28

      Which all of them would've been dead, the moment they run into a real gang.

    • @adlibbed2138
      @adlibbed2138 2 роки тому +28

      @@c0ya1 forget about being killed by the real gangs, these we're the types of people who would get their asses robbed on sight by some random hobo off the streets

    • @c0ya1
      @c0ya1 2 роки тому +9

      @@adlibbed2138 Saints row 2022 protags: we're gangsta!
      Every street gang, pirate crew, and criminal organization, from here to Tokyo, from the past to the present: *Wheezing.*

    • @cavalierliberty6838
      @cavalierliberty6838 2 роки тому +6

      @@adlibbed2138 they could get beat by some dementia ridden grandmas in hoverrounds and rascals.

    • @toof7081
      @toof7081 2 роки тому +4

      Top 10 Reasons Millennial Gangsters are Literally SO Swag! 💯

  • @StarlightLancer01
    @StarlightLancer01 2 роки тому +97

    This was Volition's one chance to potentially rise up against Rockstar's recently lacking reputation, and what did they do? They shot themselves in the foot.

  • @Gavinator6429
    @Gavinator6429 2 роки тому +410

    This game has that "haters gonna hate" vibe all over it

    • @xsizzlexster6495
      @xsizzlexster6495 2 роки тому

      Not to mention it's said in game only like a billion times. So annoying. Hit a car, "Haters gonna hate." Run over a pedestrian, "Haters gonna hate." Omg stfu.

    • @BoriBoyJ
      @BoriBoyJ 2 роки тому

      What is there to hate about? 🤔

    • @garibaldibritann1240
      @garibaldibritann1240 2 роки тому +23

      @Gavinator 6429 Ohh my god you the guy who gave Volition a suggestion which they responded your tweet with the said meme

    • @MrWaifuTaker
      @MrWaifuTaker 2 роки тому +6

      The man himself.

    • @lughzi1591
      @lughzi1591 2 роки тому +6

      *Return of the king*

  • @Misuune
    @Misuune 2 роки тому +486

    People have already said this before but still, Killbane was right about how Saints' legacy is gonna end. Not with a bang, but with a whimper.

    • @ShitBagSPC
      @ShitBagSPC 2 роки тому

      Or when burke said the saints went from gangbangers to pussies in SR3

    • @DonCrowseppe
      @DonCrowseppe 2 роки тому +11

      You're awake

    • @Misuune
      @Misuune 2 роки тому +42

      @@DonCrowseppe no im going to bed

    • @EternalNightingale
      @EternalNightingale 2 роки тому +9

      Don’t worry Ralof I’m going to windhelm to speak with Ulfric and join the fight to free Skyrim!!🐻

    • @bradwhite5884
      @bradwhite5884 2 роки тому +7

      Killbane was based this whole time, lol

  • @0uttaS1TE
    @0uttaS1TE 2 роки тому +377

    The weird thing is that, I don't even think it's millennial or gen Z. To quote Yahtzee, they gentrified gangster culture. They turned it into hustle culture but we use guns. Part of the insanity of old Saints is that they are unashamedly gangbangers, even after all is said and done.
    And speaking of that, I'd prefer that the series ended with SR4. Cos at that point, there was nowhere left to go. Certainly not in terms of stakes. And it felt like a celebration of the series, with shedloads of fanservice, using its premise to do shit that it wouldn't be able to in earlier games.
    My point is, Saints Row '22 is unnecessary. It feels more like Embracer or THQ Nordic or whoever owns the license saw money on the table and wanted to market the game to people like me (I'm technically Gen Z). Except it failed on all fronts. Like, this is a game I'm gonna see on plenty of Worst Of lists, without any caveats.

    • @ridhosamudro2199
      @ridhosamudro2199 2 роки тому +31

      Yeah it turns out to be a skin deep lip service of various cultures.
      That's is kinda the issue with the franchise, being further and further from straight gangster culture into a pop culture melting pot.
      But at least 3/4/GoH is still have some meat on them, while the reboot just go "ha ha student loan let's kill these whacky archetypes" and not elaborate on it.

    • @0uttaS1TE
      @0uttaS1TE 2 роки тому +18

      @RiverDream It's not so much that there are no good writers. It's that good writers know when a story should end. Bad writers keep going into perpetuity.

    • @alexandermagnus82
      @alexandermagnus82 2 роки тому +6

      There is demand for a classic style Saints Row game. It was a good time for a reboot, it just needed good direction and sense of vision. Getting back to the basics with a fleshed out world, open ended story, well written characters and in depth customization.
      Put virtually any fan of the first three games in charge of determining the vision of SR 2022, and we wouldve almost certainly gotten a better title.

    • @MagnumLoadedTractor
      @MagnumLoadedTractor 2 роки тому +2

      Honestly I'm starting to hate hustle culture

    • @masterchiefwasdonedirty9705
      @masterchiefwasdonedirty9705 2 роки тому +6

      Saints Row Reboot is basically what Saints Row 2 was very critical of. I mean, you had a evil corporation with a evil CEO was basically trying to gentrify Stilwater

  • @ppleakage2785
    @ppleakage2785 2 роки тому +405

    I have always seen Saints Row as a competitor to GTA than a clone. However, with the recent release of this game it’s hard to see the franchise as a competitor anymore

    • @papimoe4046
      @papimoe4046 2 роки тому +1

      It’s not a competitor no more, just woke propaganda and political correctness

    • @oliverislost
      @oliverislost 2 роки тому +7

      That's not what they wanted to be though

    • @yousifassar4275
      @yousifassar4275 2 роки тому +36

      @@oliverislost saints row 2 had commercials making fun of GTA 4. It’s definitely what volition wanted it to be. Until they realized they couldn’t compete with GTA anymore since the franchise was just too popular. Now it’s just too late to make a GTA competitor

    • @TheGameianDark
      @TheGameianDark 2 роки тому +52

      @@yousifassar4275 WTF! Dude, Saints Row 2 was everything that GTA 4 wasn't.. which is a good thing.. GTA 4 was dark, grounded yet a parody on American Culture and Mafia while SR2 was a serious gang story with lot of goofy stuff to do in fictional city.. SR and GTA could have been DC and Marvel for Crime games.. But journalists and some people couldn't stop themselves from whining about SR being a GTA rip-off.. That's why they changed the direction of the game in SRTT, not because they couldn't compete..

    • @CassandraPantaristi
      @CassandraPantaristi 2 роки тому +31

      @@TheGameianDark Saints Row was definitely not a GTA clone, the journalists and nitpickers were wrong. Saints Row was a series with a connected storyline. GTA is an anthology series.

  • @flamingburritto
    @flamingburritto 2 роки тому +188

    This whole game feels like the embodiment of "pat yourself on the back" and "participation trophies".

  • @lucast3006
    @lucast3006 2 роки тому +241

    If this is going to be the future of most games, count me out…

    • @flameguy3416
      @flameguy3416 2 роки тому +14

      Why don't you like this? It's relatable!

    • @tinystar3010
      @tinystar3010 2 роки тому +36

      It's only relatable to hipsters lol

    • @onemorescout
      @onemorescout 2 роки тому +47

      If this is the future of gaming I’m going back to fuckin Legos

    • @mikevsworldofficial
      @mikevsworldofficial 2 роки тому +5

      no, this is a AA game so hopefully not.

    • @jacoryarnett7347
      @jacoryarnett7347 2 роки тому +32

      We living a new generation of Gen Z/Millennials who are now game developers to add woke shit in their game while Gen X/Baby Boomers are left the company or retired while these new gen in charge fuck up the video game industry. yea... the future of video games ain't looking so great.

  • @loudris442
    @loudris442 2 роки тому +963

    This just makes me miss older open world games like Sleeping Dogs and Saints Row 2 even more. I feel like the subgenre of open-world crime games is fucking dead.

    • @InternetMouse
      @InternetMouse 2 роки тому +22

      Same.

    • @oliverislost
      @oliverislost 2 роки тому +28

      Literally why I bought this game
      Nothing new from this genre

    • @hawken796
      @hawken796 2 роки тому +26

      If you're automatically gonna be labeled a gta clone and there's no way gta fanboys will acknowledge the strengths of your game, why bother. It's gonna take a lot of manpower and not everybody is as rich as rockstar.

    • @olzhas1one755
      @olzhas1one755 2 роки тому +44

      @@hawken796 Thankfully it does seem that "gta clone" is dying out and people finally start to let this genre actually take it's place. Much like how it was with FPS.

    • @DarkLight-sz1vp
      @DarkLight-sz1vp 2 роки тому +10

      Look up Tru Or Die: Chiraq. Open source game in development.

  • @ValentineC137
    @ValentineC137 2 роки тому +74

    As a person that played Saints Row 3 and 4 to completion and enjoyed it.
    Then it was really weird to never hear anything of this, get recommended a random Nerdcubed video about it and just get confused why someone released an Indie tech demo and called it Saints Row

    • @ValentineC137
      @ValentineC137 2 роки тому

      8:43 lol

    • @0uttaS1TE
      @0uttaS1TE 2 роки тому +3

      Damn, Nerd³'s still around?

    • @ValentineC137
      @ValentineC137 2 роки тому +14

      @@0uttaS1TE yea, his content feels like it has changed a good bit from earlier years, and I dont think I'm alone since he's getting a 3rd the views he used to.
      I still watch his old stuff sometimes, he made my childhood lmao

    • @mastermind4499
      @mastermind4499 2 роки тому +2

      After I saw first trailers and watched a few videos ranting about it I actually forgot about this... "game" completely

    • @phxmaster9684
      @phxmaster9684 Рік тому

      What about the first 2? I started off with 3 but after playing the first 2 see why so many people truly love the series

  • @staufackar2135
    @staufackar2135 2 роки тому +8

    "Neenah's the best goddamn driver in the business"
    She drives once.

  • @RepublicOfBridger
    @RepublicOfBridger 2 роки тому +9

    Being an OG saints row fan has had its ups and downs but damn these are some dark times

  • @Joaomarkoos
    @Joaomarkoos 2 роки тому +53

    The organization and planning of your video edits is DEFINITELY better than the developers of Saints Row (2022).

  • @deadrat7989
    @deadrat7989 2 роки тому +69

    its really bad when a game is 100 times worse than a game made almost 9 years ago

  • @Kadori328
    @Kadori328 2 роки тому +56

    Agreed, this was a slap in the face to OG's of the series just like saints row 4 smh, AIn't least they kept the crew and core concept but this game is just shit

  • @tinikomindo6697
    @tinikomindo6697 2 роки тому +6

    2:12 "I feel sorry for the actors, now they have to add this to their resumes"

  • @mtfcadet7569
    @mtfcadet7569 2 роки тому +8

    The Professional looks so uncomfortable during that drive. I feel sorry for the poor guy.

    • @Ticketman99
      @Ticketman99 2 роки тому +1

      Watch his latest video. It makes that part look like the Double Dragon homage in SR4.

  • @woopdashoop9860
    @woopdashoop9860 2 роки тому +5

    When Kane & Lynch 1 has better hit detection and a more interesting gameplay than your game, i think we have a litte problem

  • @gx4012
    @gx4012 2 роки тому +12

    It doesn’t feel like a gang, it feels like a cheesy gen z teenage fraternity at college.

    • @red2theelectricboogaloo961
      @red2theelectricboogaloo961 Рік тому +3

      not even gen z is this cringe. for the record, i am one of them, and i am frankly insulted you would even lump me next to the same category as whatever the characters were in this one. but that's really true, i don't know how none of them caught on to it. they're not running a gang... they're not staring a gang... and nobody who is running or starting one would even act in the same universe as whatever it was. but none of this is gen Z either, gen Z gangsters are still gangsters.

    • @gx4012
      @gx4012 Рік тому

      @@red2theelectricboogaloo961 na bro you got my words mixed up, I never said Gen z gangsters, I said Gen z teenage college fraternity members loool. Im Gen z as well, it shouldn’t offend you if your not one of those cheesy mfs.

  • @ItsMemeHere
    @ItsMemeHere 2 роки тому +5

    the entirety of this game feels like a 5 minute throwaway joke in sunset overdrive

  • @nightowl3582
    @nightowl3582 2 роки тому +13

    Even if this comes to Game Pass some day, I don't think I'll bother.

    • @GhostRangerr
      @GhostRangerr 2 роки тому +2

      Even if this comes to steam, I still won't touch it lol

  • @stanettiels7367
    @stanettiels7367 2 роки тому +4

    “Team building exercise...”
    Wow, lmfao. I’m literally blushing with second hand embarrassment.

  • @masterchiefwasdonedirty9705
    @masterchiefwasdonedirty9705 2 роки тому +4

    This game is ironically the same thing that Saints Row 2 was being critical of. You had a villain that consisted of a evil corporation that was trying to gentrify Stilwater and this game basically looks like the result of that gentrification process by Ultor

  • @Isandayooo
    @Isandayooo 2 роки тому +59

    Professional’s reaction is pure gold.😂 Yeah this game is trash.

    • @buschfan0818
      @buschfan0818 2 роки тому +2

      As with all other new games these days

    • @titanusgodzillaa4274
      @titanusgodzillaa4274 2 роки тому +2

      @@buschfan0818 nahh solid games have been releasing lately besides this and a couple of others

  • @levijackson767
    @levijackson767 2 роки тому +5

    I would've loved a Remake of SR1 that added activities and mechanics from SR2 and TT (while maintaining SR1 mechanics) with updated graphics still faithfully following the 90-00s aesthetic, gleaming bling, and ill-fitting clothing. A time capsule of Wu-tang Clan, spinner rims, sagging pants and side ways pistols.

    • @karithema9ician657
      @karithema9ician657 Рік тому

      @jbiehlable it did but it didn’t stop niggas from doin it 🤦🏾‍♂️😂😂😂

  • @kujo4388
    @kujo4388 2 роки тому +18

    It just brings me a considerable amount of joy knowing that these cocky developers and pretty much everyone involved with this game can’t go online without seeing it being ripped to shreds.
    And still developers will continue to blatantly ignore fans. I don’t think there’s enough outrage/backlash, I don’t see why so many people are okay with these practices but whatever.

    • @jase276
      @jase276 2 роки тому +1

      Oh you know for a fact they are nestled tightly in their echo chambers.

  • @riverpowell1050
    @riverpowell1050 2 роки тому +3

    They won't ever be able to pay the rent when they're throwing the money around

  • @tikalthewhimsicott2736
    @tikalthewhimsicott2736 2 роки тому +8

    Hey Dark Space, if you want to check out a game with great driving physics you should check out Enthusia Professional Racing. It's a racing game that was published by Konami on the PS2. It's quite the hidden gem.

  • @Dginny865
    @Dginny865 2 роки тому +4

    Saints row has always been my favorite gaming series of all time, 1st game in the series - 4th game, now seeing this it did an absolute 180 and completely tarnished what once was to me. This gave me real depression.

  • @a.t.2020
    @a.t.2020 2 роки тому +6

    I swear these companies are out to ruin these classic games on purpose, you can't make a game this bad unintentionally

  • @tjeastcoast1556
    @tjeastcoast1556 2 роки тому +16

    From my standpoint nothings changed since 2s release. Shit just kept gettin more cliche and cheesy. They strayed further from what a gangsta free roam should be with every drop. Now all of the sudden people don't like it cuz they finally see what it really is.

    • @HaughsCausedit
      @HaughsCausedit 2 роки тому +3

      Right this "reboot" feels like they just combined SR3 and SR4 for a play test and decided to release what they got.

    • @oliverislost
      @oliverislost 2 роки тому

      💯

    • @goated3285
      @goated3285 2 роки тому +3

      Right 3-4 was Cringe, Cliche & Cheesy af especially 4 so I don’t get why so many is surprised.
      It’s like the woke youtubers are complaining that a game is just as woke & cliche but they are themselves everytime they drop some woke video about a gaming company but when u get a woke game here comes the tears lol I’m so confused

    • @hawken796
      @hawken796 2 роки тому +1

      @@goated3285 That was infinitely funnier tho. Like 4 and 3 were funny af. This is sitcom tier humour

    • @CelesteSDBK
      @CelesteSDBK 2 роки тому

      sAiNTs RoW sHoUlD bE rEaLIstIc

  • @generichuman2044
    @generichuman2044 2 роки тому +8

    I was not expecting a video about this game but I'm incredibly excited we got one. Surprised it's only 20 minutes tbh. I haven't played the game and I feel like I could rant for hours about the current state of gaming

  • @Winland88
    @Winland88 2 роки тому +5

    Maybe i don't understand what that "power fantasy" actually means in here but last time i checked millennials are the ones born between 1981-1996 and nothing in here is relatable to that age group, where is all the extremely edgy jokes on taboo things? where is the morally questionable stuff like Bum Fights? where is the gross stuff you saw in Jackass? or the soundtrack filled with songs like Smack My Bitch Up? That is stuff millennials can relate as we grew up with it.

  • @OutoftheHatGaming
    @OutoftheHatGaming 2 роки тому +2

    It’s like every game coming out nowadays is half done. Why do they half ass something and then charge $60 for them to only “maybe” fix it later?

  • @EldrakeOng
    @EldrakeOng 2 роки тому +4

    Thank god for the Dark Space announcement channel

  • @tylertheguy3160
    @tylertheguy3160 Рік тому +1

    Nahualli is my favorite character because for most of the game he seems as utterly fucking baffled as we are.

  • @centrictero
    @centrictero 2 роки тому +31

    I can't even forgive some of the 'buggy' mechanics in this game.
    When they did happen (rarely) in the previous games such as SR2 / SR3, it was often pretty funny.
    Make that aspect consistent, along with a brand new floppy story, annoying characters, and irritating writing, and you have a recipe for disaster... 😪

    • @DarkSpaceStudios
      @DarkSpaceStudios  2 роки тому +10

      Very frustrating game

    • @Yerrrr7899
      @Yerrrr7899 2 роки тому +5

      @@DarkSpaceStudios “Eli looks like he’s interning at Volition itself” 🤣🤣🤣 thank you for exposing this atrocious game bro

  • @FadiGamingRP
    @FadiGamingRP 2 роки тому +17

    hopefully developers watch this and take notes. im not purchasing the game yet. lol

    • @tinystar3010
      @tinystar3010 2 роки тому +10

      I'm not purchasing it at all. It even made Gat Out of Hell look like a masterpiece in comparison.

    • @goated3285
      @goated3285 2 роки тому

      @@tinystar3010 smh no it doesn’t, y’all complaining when u haven’t even played it, it’s not as bad as a lot of people are saying & I would suggest u try it for yourself & have your own 🧠 instead of agreeing with someone’s else’s opinion.

    • @jayo8734
      @jayo8734 2 роки тому +4

      @@goated3285 I played it bro and there’re right this shit is ass compared to the old games

    • @AlphaJayCharlie
      @AlphaJayCharlie 2 роки тому

      @@goated3285 I played it. It is hipster trash

    • @FadiGamingRP
      @FadiGamingRP 2 роки тому

      @@goated3285 I've played game similar to this layout, and mechanics. They're all the same, apart of using your 🧠 is learning from past experiences and not repeating the mistake.
      I will however try it when it sells for $10-20

  • @jdobaldo9678
    @jdobaldo9678 2 роки тому +3

    I know why there's no car bending, they put it all in the hoverboard smashing XD

  • @fancifuldreamer6360
    @fancifuldreamer6360 2 роки тому +2

    Even as someone who's never played a SR game and probably never will, this video was very fun and informative to watch. Your editing, writing, and critique are pure quality. It's clear you really played the game you're discussing and you objectively lay out pros and cons, backed by relevant rather than generic gameplay footage. Looking forward to more!

  • @deepfriedicecream576
    @deepfriedicecream576 2 роки тому +3

    Saints Row writing: we’re a team, we’re friends, we’re all so cool and important
    New Vegas writing: Hungry? Thirsty? Horny?

  • @auser6729
    @auser6729 2 роки тому +1

    15:48
    "anyone can do a score, only difference being who gets to run free, and who gets put six feet under"
    -Micheal

  • @henrik1743
    @henrik1743 2 роки тому +3

    Agree with your take on why driving is bad in so many games, I mean so many games did amazing vehicle handling in the early 2000's (Driver etc)

  • @walter_248
    @walter_248 Рік тому +1

    I still remember how special my first playthrough of SR 2 felt. I spend long seasons in between playing to keep it that way, and it does work, because I still get lost often.

  • @chickencurry420
    @chickencurry420 2 роки тому +2

    "How are we gonna make rent?"
    *robs a bank with minimal effort*
    "Yeah but what about rent though?"

    • @jase276
      @jase276 2 роки тому

      @jbiehlable "Money fight!"

    • @red2theelectricboogaloo961
      @red2theelectricboogaloo961 Рік тому

      and no police came, there was no gameplay in the process, no mechanics about it, apparently the whole thing was just a cutscene. then it made a hard cut to having a shootout with somebody, i already forgot who and i just watched the video. to be clear i never played any of the saint's row games. but i heard about them. but i'm not going to play this one is for certain.

  • @arshkhanlm3086
    @arshkhanlm3086 2 роки тому +3

    At this point, I think Mafia 4 and GTA 6 are the only last hope, I wouldn't say Mafia and GTA are competitors since they are both owned by Take Two

    • @MrDearCandy
      @MrDearCandy 2 роки тому

      Already losing hope for GTA 6...

    • @NerfMaster000
      @NerfMaster000 2 роки тому

      @@MrDearCandy What GTA6 lol, it’s just gonna be GTA Online 2 with even more shark cards and OP ill fitting weaponised vehicles.

    • @titanusgodzillaa4274
      @titanusgodzillaa4274 2 роки тому

      @@NerfMaster000 oh this didn't age well did it..assuming whats gonna be in a game that hasnt even been announced yet is insane lol

    • @titanusgodzillaa4274
      @titanusgodzillaa4274 2 роки тому

      @@MrDearCandy rockstar isnt like this they put actual effort in their games

  • @othersideguy16
    @othersideguy16 2 роки тому +1

    the world in saints row 2022 feels like it came straight out of postal 2 but somehow worse

  • @YungREDA
    @YungREDA 2 роки тому +3

    Smh the gameplay cutscenes look like toy story 3

  • @ajbreezy27
    @ajbreezy27 2 роки тому +4

    I feel like they were tying to play it too safe on this game and didn’t try to revert back to how the first two games were. It could of been a whole lot better had they just combined the things from the first two into the reboot as far as the open world goes and make the NPC’s actually feel like they’re living with their own personalties, The amount of detail that the NPC’s do in SR2 is really cool to see. both games either way have their own unique features

    • @agentlinrov1474
      @agentlinrov1474 2 роки тому +3

      Considering that games like MW2019 and Destroy All Humans have moments that are not in the "too safe" category, that does raise questions.
      Games like Detroit: Become Human and Watch Dogs 2 are other contenders to be noted, as well. Even Death Stranding.

  • @Rrodfer
    @Rrodfer 2 роки тому +1

    Saints Row 2022 looks like a Tony Hawk game modded to a open world crime game

  • @leonkenedy4616
    @leonkenedy4616 2 роки тому +8

    It stinks Fornite every where. Also the technical issues, the awfull physics, The arquitecture is ok and even there is some good looking grafity art around the city but Santo Ileso is so lifeless, I was thinking: "Well maybe moders will be able to fix this mess" But the rabbit hole goes so deep that I really doub it, not sure if they can fix the terrible shooting, the terrible weapon desighn and texturing, the awfull driving and the repetitive contetn like the "Ventures" it seems Volition and Deep Silver´s only objective was to sink the franchise, they did it well if you ask me.

    • @red2theelectricboogaloo961
      @red2theelectricboogaloo961 Рік тому

      well, i don't think there's even a tangible reason why modders would even want to fix it. at least with games like cyberpunk 2077 you have something to work with, but even just the writing itself just kills that off completely 'cuz ain't no way anybody wants to sit through those janky-ass dialogues. i even doubt the devs care that much to even go out of their way to make good modding support. this game is probably just going to bomb and be forgotten about if i'm being honest.

  • @RAEMONDORMIN
    @RAEMONDORMIN 2 роки тому +1

    Go to options an customize the game to play how you want it . I got where you don't run out of ammo .

  • @coffeeelk6364
    @coffeeelk6364 2 роки тому +4

    Just some food for thought, does anyone think that the game would’ve gotten higher review scores and have been more positively received if it simply didn’t have the Saints Row title attached to it?

    • @Victhemighty
      @Victhemighty 2 роки тому

      It woukd have sold less since it wouldnt have the name to carry it and the woke characters would make people want to stay away before it was even released.

    •  2 роки тому

      Probably would have been called a Watch Dogs clone

  • @yerderlol9314
    @yerderlol9314 2 роки тому +2

    Saying a game is better with Friends is stupid, because dying of Cancer is also better with friends.
    If you want a fun coop game, Borderlands exists

  • @Christoph5782
    @Christoph5782 2 роки тому +10

    The game plays like a game from 2006, SR4 killed the franchise as they couldn’t go anymore over the top or make a more brilliant game than that and instead fell back to being a terrible GTA Clone whilst somehow disappointing the people that liked the first 2 games over the games built around pure fun in 3 and 4

    • @michazmuda1477
      @michazmuda1477 2 роки тому

      Well, for SR4 they could expand Saints Row conquest of America, similar as Drug Cartels, Mexican/Latin gangs in south border etc. Alien stuff and destroy of Earth was poor excuse.

    • @justinp1011
      @justinp1011 2 роки тому

      @@michazmuda1477 It was an old DLC that turned into a full game due to Volition's bad financial situation. But yeah, a prequel to SR3 would've been a nice idea for a SR game.

    • @nikolasferreira3247
      @nikolasferreira3247 2 роки тому

      To bad sr3 & 4 are fun for a few hours, then you realize how those games lack depth.
      Seriously they suck compare to the first two and do does the reboot. How can a company make 2 great games and then make mefiocre games later?

    • @Christoph5782
      @Christoph5782 2 роки тому +1

      @@nikolasferreira3247 This is a matter of personal opinion but I absolutely loved 3 and 4 and hated the first 2. Like with SR2, you needed to fill up your Respect Bar every single time before you can do another mission, the controls are weird (A side effect of being a game that released back before controls were effectively standardized to the same butons/triggers in all games now), and the missions just aren’t all that memorable and just it just felt like a GTA Clone
      Though this reboot truly is special in that somehow both the group that loves 1 and 2 as well as the group that loves 3 and 4 don’t like this game

  • @Sakama98
    @Sakama98 2 роки тому +1

    The whole reboot is an example of the dev totally didn't do any research at all what makes Saints Row is Saints Row instead including 2010s trend for no reason.

  • @soichiro7790
    @soichiro7790 Рік тому +2

    This is the easiest failure to fix and yet they failed.
    You know how hard it is to actually figured out what the fans wants? Lucky for Volition, fans around the world are telling them exactly what to do.
    The message couldn't be any clearer
    "Make gangster open world game with humor, interesting characters and no aliens"
    What is lost in translation? How could it be interprid in any other ways?
    Everyone is telling them exactly what to do and they still not doing it. It must be deliberate at this point, they refuse to make it.
    In case they haven't notice, this is a video games, essentially an electronic toys, a consumer products first and arts second and consumer wants "gangster open world game with humor, interesting characters and no aliens"

  • @manifestualdestiny2057
    @manifestualdestiny2057 2 роки тому +8

    Kind of lost me when you said they had a chance to erase saints row the third.

    • @arshkhanlm3086
      @arshkhanlm3086 2 роки тому +10

      Saints row the third was ok because the gameplay was good but they turned the old gangsters into movie stars plus they did Johnny Gatt dirty by killing him off in a plane and the Villians were awful and they added a Flying bike and a VTOL

    • @manifestualdestiny2057
      @manifestualdestiny2057 2 роки тому +2

      @@arshkhanlm3086 i hear you and respect your opinion. Saints row 2 had some of the best storyline vibes. I just love how they didnt take them selves too seriously in the 3rd to make a really fun and enjoyable game for people to enjoy. Plus the takedowns omg hilarious!! Hahah. I still remembering suplexing an old unsuspecting person hahaha

    • @GRANDTHEFTBATO
      @GRANDTHEFTBATO 2 роки тому

      I like saints row the third but I think it was the point in the series where the saints row series started to decline and gave devs the impression that we wanted a wacky out there type of game when in reality we loved it for it’s okay story but it’s decent fun gameplay. My dream saints row game would be the gameplay of 3 with a story similar to 2s

  • @ketrotenderfoot9007
    @ketrotenderfoot9007 2 роки тому +1

    "how you doing fellow kids" in video game mode

    • @red2theelectricboogaloo961
      @red2theelectricboogaloo961 Рік тому

      very true. lots of comments describing this as gen Z and millennial but gen Y and Z also have hardened criminals. no, this is boomers trying to appeal to gen Z people and trying to relate to them about "rent go crazy" and "student loans go crazy", but in fact this actually looks really old, like mid 2010s or thereabout. it's basically an attempt at a re-run of GTA 5 except all of the fun parts got sucked out and the gameplay got stripped away like mad.

  • @Wasper216
    @Wasper216 2 роки тому +10

    Cyberpunk wasn’t unplayable at release. Can’t hear this BS no more. I put about 300 hours in with the release version on steam and had only one crash during that time and other than that only minor bugs. Most bugs were encountered in the last console gen abut just because their hardware is way too weak for this game. It just shouldn’t have released for the last console generation.

  • @FreeAimDog
    @FreeAimDog 2 роки тому

    lol i remember professionals reaction to it, he’s gunna be scared for life.

  • @SammEater
    @SammEater Рік тому

    What we wanted:
    A throwback to mid 2000's gangster culture.
    What we got:
    Middle class college students from California literally fantasy LARPing

  • @Drught
    @Drught 2 роки тому +56

    It's not woke, it's a bland copy of a copy of a copy of What they think represent their targeted audience. Nobody talk or act like they think young people do. That's just insulting.

    • @I_hunt_lolis
      @I_hunt_lolis 2 роки тому +17

      It's woke bro

    • @devinvenne
      @devinvenne 2 роки тому +8

      @@I_hunt_lolis it's not, if it was it'd actually have some substance. It's just lazy.

    • @smyl0v088
      @smyl0v088 2 роки тому +18

      Nah, it's woke

    • @torimato
      @torimato 2 роки тому

      @@smyl0v088 It's not woke, woke doesn't just mean "thing I dont like". The game sure as hell ain't good but it aint woke either. It's just a corporate soulless cash grab

    • @Drught
      @Drught 2 роки тому +7

      ​@@smyl0v088 I'm not seeing anything woke, only a full on steroid stereotype of what some people think is woke. It's not because they have some ethnicity and colorful people. Again, I don't see the woke in this title. The word is so misused today it doesn't mean anything.

  • @Bygos
    @Bygos 2 роки тому +1

    1:26 WHOA WHOA WHOA! WAIT A SECOND. SR3 was not a bad game. SR4 I get it because it was basically a DLC for SR3.

  • @LogOfOne
    @LogOfOne 2 роки тому +2

    FINALLY. I was waiting for a Dark Space vid for so long. Thank you :)

  • @michazmuda1477
    @michazmuda1477 2 роки тому +1

    This make Cyberpunk look more polished.

  • @Diamond-um6mg
    @Diamond-um6mg 2 роки тому +22

    Greetings to all my homies from discord!
    On a more serious note, I think one “redeeming quality” of this game’s combat is how it encourages movement but that is unfortunately nullified by how most enemies are bullet sponges and take more than a few rounds of ammo to die.

    • @Kechioma
      @Kechioma 2 роки тому +2

      Did you touch the challenge options? The combat is overly spongey but you can literally set enemy health to 0 and make them drop ammo consistently.

    • @Diamond-um6mg
      @Diamond-um6mg 2 роки тому

      @@Kechioma in all honesty, I didn’t even know those options existed. I just went with the default difficulty when it prompted me and continued my playthrough. The only time I used the options menu was to alter graphics and check if subtitles were on. Thanks for the heads up though, I’ll check those options when I can.

    • @LedYouAshtray
      @LedYouAshtray 2 роки тому

      Yeah I was gonna say you can edit the difficulty to your liking, it's not all bullet spongy with the right settings

  • @RumaG4N
    @RumaG4N 2 роки тому

    the dorky interns at Volition forgot why Julius created the 3rd Street Saints.

  • @sonwuzi2845
    @sonwuzi2845 2 роки тому +1

    That professional clip is top notch 😂🤣

  • @oblivion1971uesp
    @oblivion1971uesp 2 роки тому +7

    I don't care what people say saints row the third is a great game and is my personal favourite out of the franchise.

    • @Sammy_the_best_there_ever_was
      @Sammy_the_best_there_ever_was 2 роки тому +2

      The game ain't awful but it sucks compared to two it became less unique and became more boring it probably would have helped if you could replay mission you know because what's the point of unlocking so much stuff and then you can't use in any missions for fun oh and the fact you had to pay for cheat codes that right there was disgusting

    • @oblivion1971uesp
      @oblivion1971uesp 2 роки тому +3

      i felt it had unique parts to it and was really fun and i think you might be confusing the third with the fourth game.

    • @nikolasferreira3247
      @nikolasferreira3247 2 роки тому

      @@oblivion1971uesp no he's pretty spot on about saints row the third. Sometimes, most of the time is paintully mediocre

    • @oblivion1971uesp
      @oblivion1971uesp 2 роки тому

      @@nikolasferreira3247 why was it?

    • @nikolasferreira3247
      @nikolasferreira3247 2 роки тому

      @@oblivion1971uesp sr2 did almost everything about sr3 better. Customization is better in sr2, the map is better in sr2, the npcs are better in sr2, the side activities are better in sr2, the main caimpaign is better in sr2. The only thing that sr3 has that was better than sr2 is the gameplay, the mission design is better as well but there are so few missions compared to sr2.
      If you're not doing missions then you're problably bored running around steelport, the most bland and lifeless city ever seeign in a video game. There's nothing interesting going on making exploring the city feel like a chore.
      Also the upgrade syatem is broken. By the time you beat the game you'll bare have any of them in a good level because it takes a huge ass time to unlock and buy them. They should uave made the story longer so we could properly use them

  • @DarthPingu07
    @DarthPingu07 2 роки тому +1

    I encourage everybody to rewatch the ronin cutscenes from saints row 2. Not the gameplay, just the cutscenes.
    The quality of the writing, delivery of the lines, hell the fight in Johnny's House or Aisha's funeral.
    The quality is jaw dropping.

  • @Ordoabchao-x9k
    @Ordoabchao-x9k 2 роки тому +1

    You know what's funny? The cast would have worked if there was some development. Like, imagine this bunch of goofballs who end up slowly turning into the rampaging murdering sociopaths the original saints were?
    Like they ise the humor to cope mentally with the fact they're now killers abd there's no tuning back

  • @robertkeane9393
    @robertkeane9393 2 роки тому +3

    This game can be rated T. Nothing mature about this game.

    • @titanusgodzillaa4274
      @titanusgodzillaa4274 2 роки тому

      the only reason its rated m is because of the unnecessary amount of cursing lol

  • @Evanz111
    @Evanz111 Рік тому

    I’ve seen so many people mindlessly ripping into this game (a game I actually enjoyed a good amount) but I feel like your video is one of the only ones to try and properly fairly analyse it.

  • @BIGwillTHEGAME
    @BIGwillTHEGAME 2 роки тому +1

    Saints Row 2 is and will always be my favorite Saints Row game.

  • @JizzyF83
    @JizzyF83 Рік тому +1

    Man modern gaming really is getting worse, not only am I getting older and not have much time for video games, but the gaming industry is getting more and more greedy which is even more for an excuse to stick with the old games

  • @x7ameedo700
    @x7ameedo700 2 роки тому +2

    Best customization? Yes but you can't choose male or female

  • @Dginny865
    @Dginny865 2 роки тому +4

    Saints row (2022) ? More like, saints no… this game made a devastating turn to what the series once was..

  • @BioAlpha5
    @BioAlpha5 2 роки тому +2

    I miss playin SR2, 3rd and IV.

  • @psully212
    @psully212 2 роки тому +1

    I like how the dialogue preaches a message about how "other people" get handed shit without having to work for it.
    #randomaf #sorelatable
    #nointrospection

  • @shizzray
    @shizzray 2 роки тому +2

    It's weird, but as you were naming what was wrong with the game, I was picturing the same with GTA V. GTA has a mission that puts you in a biker bar with no weapons against enemies with cue sticks and broken bottles with no combat form of your own. GTA has many repetitious missions that become tedious after playing them a few times. Like the resupply missions and contract missions.

    • @DarkSpaceStudios
      @DarkSpaceStudios  2 роки тому

      Yeah, GTA is a bad example of good mission design

    • @22XERO22
      @22XERO22 2 роки тому

      What mission in GTA V puts you in a biker bar with no weapons?

    • @shizzray
      @shizzray 2 роки тому

      @@22XERO22 one is a stealing mission for your weed farm and another mission type. I've played it SEVERAL times.

    • @22XERO22
      @22XERO22 2 роки тому +1

      @@shizzray oh, you're talking about gta online. I thought you were talking about a story mission.
      But yeah, online missions are quite repetitive.

  • @xXxKAMIKAZExXx
    @xXxKAMIKAZExXx 2 роки тому +1

    All we had to do was make a game like Saints Row 2, CJ!

  • @MaoriGamerDood
    @MaoriGamerDood 2 роки тому

    You can't erase the over the Top Cheese and BadAssery that is Saints 3 and 4.
    But that's just me. I like them a lot.

  • @granknutterbutter3472
    @granknutterbutter3472 2 роки тому +1

    Previous entries were based around gangs and criminals that EXIST (stereotypical versions but still). I am an ex criminal. Lets just say im not in deep waters anymore, but i can still swim. Now, strap in zoomers - If you look like ANY of those kittens, YOU ARE A PORKCHOP, NOT A WOLF. You will be perceived as weak, and treated as such as well. If you EVER say "your carbon footprint always matters" - YOU ARE A PORKCHOP, NOT A WOLF.. If you act all happy and positive all the time like this, YOU ARE A PORKCHOP, NOT A WOLF.
    These characters are NOT CRIMINALS, THEY ARE BITCHES!

  • @Antichthon
    @Antichthon 2 роки тому +5

    It's cringe to make it about "le woke le w-woke, muh woke, le sjw, t-the sjw, the gen zee the zoomer millennial the left the quartering the marvel cinematic universe"
    it really bogs down most of the actual criticisms people have about it which most reviewers actually tackle successfully. It would be the GTA shitter that would do this though so whatever

  • @tylertheguy3160
    @tylertheguy3160 Рік тому

    I'm in this weird spot where I'm Gen Z but I've always related to millennials more and always had more millennial sensibilities, so I'm in a weird spot where even though I AM in the target demographic, it still feels really alien and distant. It's also a game that screams "How do you do, fellow kids?".

  • @Neonytic
    @Neonytic 2 роки тому +2

    As a person who got introduced to the game series seeing clips of the intro and actually got to playing it only at part 2, it is really sad to see what it has been reduced to.
    Being heavily interested in gang culture and being a San Andreas mega fanboy, I wished I could play Saint's Row. Finally got my hands on 2 a few years later and loved it to death. Played 3. Loved it, even if I can confirm it went in a weird direction but hell I also loved 4 for what it was. I loved the B-movieness of it all and thought that it esentilaly retained that part from 2 to 4 even if the actual genre had a metamorphosis.
    3 already had a massive shift in tone, but of course having never played 1, I wouldn't know how different 1 and 2 are. From what I've seen the tone shift is there too though, it's just it was less radical at the time.

  • @eukyre
    @eukyre 2 роки тому

    you know its bad when ACE COMBAT 7, A GAME ABOUT FLYING PLANES, DID SANDSTORMS BETTER THAN A GAME ABOUT BEING IN A DESERT

  • @DarkSoulsReject
    @DarkSoulsReject 2 роки тому +4

    I think it's safe to say that saints row didn't just die, it was brutally murdered

  • @mrexion7851
    @mrexion7851 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you for saving me from wasting money on this game. I’m sorry you had to play it, but I’m glad you did.

  • @DANLi_
    @DANLi_ 2 роки тому

    13:09 So the latest Saints Row game has just gone back to GTA 3 AI levels.. nice.

  • @Thelemonlicorice
    @Thelemonlicorice Рік тому

    Two things that will have no true competitor: GTA and UA-cam

  • @Cybershock180
    @Cybershock180 Рік тому

    It seems like a game that is meant to hold you’re hand through the entire game no matter what difficulty you’re on this game like a repeat of the avengers video game.

  • @Dginny865
    @Dginny865 2 роки тому +5

    I’ve always loved and replayed SR1-4 multiple times for years so I’d consider myself a real fan. That being said after seeing all the gameplay/reviews I would NEVER actually buy this absolute failure of a game being connected to the franchise.
    You’d have to pay me to actually want to play the game. This is devastating to see where the series went.

    • @mastermind4499
      @mastermind4499 2 роки тому

      SR4 feels more Saints Row than this. And that's a game about fecking alien invasion

    • @dominick5293
      @dominick5293 2 роки тому

      @@mastermind4499 I agree

  • @coling3957
    @coling3957 2 роки тому

    This was Number One in UK for box sale on release. Pre-orders of course.. A week later and sales dropped off 80% and it's down to Number Six.. LMAO

  • @Sammy_the_best_there_ever_was
    @Sammy_the_best_there_ever_was 2 роки тому +3

    From seeing the whole story I see why the Mexican dude tried killing the boss that boss is the most incompetent I've seen and I played every Saints Row