Feet don't count, as feet are not part of the interior of the case. Feet just adds height, not inner space. Full Towers are based on what MotherBoards fit on the inside of the case, that's always been the case. I could be wrong?
i have yet to see a worthy replacement for my R5 without the front door. i've even grown accustomed to it looking that way. newegg now has glass panel replacements for the R5. this pretty much makes it perfect.
If it's a vertical air case why is the cup cooler side to side.... and wouldn't the gpu block a lot of the vertical airflow, I kinda like this case design and I'm looking to find one I'm happy with for my first time build.... who would of thought choosing a box was a pain in the rear
Would be nice if they had a variation with solid side panel instead of a window too. Many people like musicians/producers/recording engineers need full steel or aluminium enclosure to minimise electromagnetic radiation/interference leaking out and causing noise issues.
ima just have to build myself a shop with everything i need to build my own case, start with motherboard gpu and coolers (a few liquid) then design the box around where i want everything to be. it'll be a fun project
Air cool only guess this would be fine but that power supply may make things a bit top heavy (maybe why you are seeing the wobble) and I agree that it may be an issue with putting a hard drive there. Power supplies as the heaviest item, by a lot, should be at the bottom. Water cooling with a radiator at the top would block some of that air flow and I noticed that there isn't a rear fan. Also didn't see any filters? This looks like a bit of dusty bunny hotel and the way things are screwed down it will be a PIA to clean. You guys did a nice job giving an overview.
@@alainaoxm Hey Alaina. You may have figured it out later, but in case you didn't and for those looking into a case like this, you can remove the Hard Drive plate that covers the PSU intake. At least, I could on mine. This allowed proper air to get pulled in. Well, more than expected. I also pulled off the back plate, then using one of my 5 inch (perfect size for it) cup bit and arbor drill bit, I was able to cut out a proper hole. Then used small drill bits to make the screw holes after marking the placement using the fan. I then used a filter mesh and drilled holes in the same spot, then affixed the fan to the spot with the mesh bound between it. I did this to see if blowing low RPM air in would then help level the hot air coming up off the GPU into my liquid cooled CPU 240mm radiator. It turns out Liquid CPU is the way to go and the back fan didn't really do much. Because so much air passes up due to the bottom 200mm fans, the air itself due to expansion isn't really hot, even with the GPU (2080TI) running at peak. Back fan on and off, I had to have it up to 60% before there was a single degree drop but being liquid, it was slow to change. Overall, this is the best case I have ever used in terms of proper GPU cooling. Since CPUs have a ton of closed loop options to go along with the CPU and GPUs only really have 1 dedicated closed loop system per gen (in the case of Nvidia with their Hybrids) and because modded closed loops on a GPU look kinda bad, this case is well fitted. It allows you to utilize air cooled GPU with a liquid cooled CPU. Add to that, RBG bottom 200mms and RBG top 140mms on the radiator set to white, it gives off enough light to fill the case fairly evenly, but the GPU has to be vertical.
For the entire first 5 minutes I was wondering .. where the heck is the PSU ?? lol, that's nice. I had that once in a Casemodbuild I did back in the early 00s.
Nope lost me at no reset switch plus the lack of rear fan port makes this a non-option. Once you have a large radiator on top there is no exhaust for case air to flow unless you are happy with intake via the base. Looks nice though
@@GrimpakTheMook I'll take another look but I'm pretty sure it's just a bunch of melted plastic or something inside the holes where the screws would usually be
@@GrimpakTheMook I'll be dipped, you were right. Opened it up and took another look, this time from the bottom after removing the filter and there were the screws. More importantly I noticed that the fan blade was out of place and wedged underneath the case, keeping it from spinning. I popped it back up in to place and now it is working great. TLDR; THANK YOU :)
@@LeginNoslen you're welcome! I'm actually "returning" to this case. Last year I started a setup with it but with what I had, it was getting a bit too cramped for watercooling and replaced it with a phanteks enthoo pro 2. However, I always loved the style of the case, and when I saw the black version, I got determined to try to make an open loop that would fit in it again.
This doesn't look like a case that would fit a larger Asus Rog Strix 2080 TI OC Card? I would say if a Rog 2080 ti oc fits it's cutting it super close. Also the HDD in front of the PSU Should of been adjustable "Up and Down" Anything you put in front of the PSU will restrict airflow to the unit, So having the HDD Adjustable should of been an option of maybe it is one, except she didn't know it was one? Maybe the PSU can be moved up and away from the HDD, since she said the PSU was Adjustable?
318mm clearance. Rog Strix is 299mm so 19mm of room. If you vertical it, that's perfect and if using the cable wrap around extension bar (bought extra), you can get the 2x 8pins plugged in directly from the power supply with only a bit of cable showing. Ultimately though, this case is designed for GPU cooling and with a Liquid CPU cooling using 240mm radiator, it'll run better than most. GPU's are typically hard to get as Hybrids and are almost entirely Air unless you modify it which then makes the card look terrible. CPUs on the other hand have good looking liquid closed loop options. For this reason, they're popular setups, having air GPU and liquid CPU. This case makes use of that. What I went ahead and did on mine was removed the plate that was used to hold a hard drive as it was covering the PSU. This allowed full intake of air. I then used a 5inch drill cup with an arbor bit and drilled a hole in the back for the 120mm fan. Using Noctua black with the binding rubber attachments in the 4 smaller drilled holes, I was able to then afix a mesh then the fan over the mesh with the rubber attachments poked through the hole in the mesh, This allowed there to be a proper, nice looking rear fan. I set it up to blow air in under a low setting so it doesn't overpower the updraft and to provide cooling air that negated some of the heated air that may have come up from cooling off the GPU. Under high stress I noticed the CPU never cleared 65 Celsius. With the back fan turned off it hit maybe 66 degrees infrequently but it would hover at 65 with 20% in 66 range. GPU was the lowest reading I have ever seen. M2 Drive was below it and received direct air as did the RAM. This is probably the best case I have ever seen and the design really should be used more often since GPU cooling is typically more vital as you can easily liquid cool the CPU.
Only one at the bottom left. On the top, you need to put the stock fans that are currently at the bottom, and at the bottom right you need to buy an extra CoolerMaster 200mm (which is thinner than the Noctua). I also put the radiator at the bottom and it's a huge difference.
Big? Nah, not compared to my Fractal Design XL R2, it isn't. Prettier though, I have to admit. I'd want to turn the GPU vertical and the CPU cooler horizontal and add another pair of 200mm fans exhausting out of the top...even then it's probably not going to be the air flow king. That's all right, I'm not really concerned with a few degrees here and there. This is now on my short list for my next build, which will be right about the time AMD drops Ryzen 3000.
Great presentation, both of you contributing, asking and answering, work well together.
It looks like an modern Alienware case without the ugly logo
Bought this case for its sleek design.
After building it, I appreciate the difference in design that CoolerMaster had in mind.
My biggest concern with the way you had it set up is the GPU blocking airflow.
well you rotated pci-e slot part of the back panel see gamers nexus review
Lovely case, very sleek and modern thanks for the detailed preview Alaina and Adam great work.
This case looks really nice! This might be my new future case!
Interesting review, it's a teardown rather than a build log. Works for me, off to watch the GN review next, thanks!
Sweet case.
I enjoyed case reviews and how everything got took off and explained what is possible.
just got this case and i love it!
Does Alaina fit in the box?
Nick Sondag Probably but the cable management would be a mess 😄😄
A very detailed explanation Just what i was curious about .
Thanks Alaina Very great job You Rock chicky .
Feet don't count, as feet are not part of the interior of the case. Feet just adds height, not inner space. Full Towers are based on what MotherBoards fit on the inside of the case, that's always been the case. I could be wrong?
It's the best case we have in the market right now in my opinion.
i have yet to see a worthy replacement for my R5 without the front door. i've even grown accustomed to it looking that way. newegg now has glass panel replacements for the R5. this pretty much makes it perfect.
If it's a vertical air case why is the cup cooler side to side.... and wouldn't the gpu block a lot of the vertical airflow, I kinda like this case design and I'm looking to find one I'm happy with for my first time build.... who would of thought choosing a box was a pain in the rear
IF Alaina doesn't fit in the box that case come in then it is not a full tower, it may be a bigger one, but it is still just a mid tower
Would be nice if they had a variation with solid side panel instead of a window too. Many people like musicians/producers/recording engineers need full steel or aluminium enclosure to minimise electromagnetic radiation/interference leaking out and causing noise issues.
ima just have to build myself a shop with everything i need to build my own case, start with motherboard gpu and coolers (a few liquid) then design the box around where i want everything to be. it'll be a fun project
Love these videos.
If I did not have a new case now. *(Thermaltake Core P7}. Than I would be getting this one. Great work on the video. Keep up the great work.
P7 is better, made the right choice. I have the P3 myself.
very nice locking Case
A very special case with attention to Detail. Would consider it if I didnt use so much pcie connected devices that would block airflow in this case.
For a $200 case it doesn't look like it has much room for custom water loops.
Probably just not aiming for that market.
Air cool only guess this would be fine but that power supply may make things a bit top heavy (maybe why you are seeing the wobble) and I agree that it may be an issue with putting a hard drive there. Power supplies as the heaviest item, by a lot, should be at the bottom. Water cooling with a radiator at the top would block some of that air flow and I noticed that there isn't a rear fan. Also didn't see any filters? This looks like a bit of dusty bunny hotel and the way things are screwed down it will be a PIA to clean.
You guys did a nice job giving an overview.
Ah, I forgot to show it - there is a filter at the very bottom, where the intake fans are.
(And thank you :] )
@@alainaoxm Hey Alaina. You may have figured it out later, but in case you didn't and for those looking into a case like this, you can remove the Hard Drive plate that covers the PSU intake. At least, I could on mine. This allowed proper air to get pulled in. Well, more than expected. I also pulled off the back plate, then using one of my 5 inch (perfect size for it) cup bit and arbor drill bit, I was able to cut out a proper hole. Then used small drill bits to make the screw holes after marking the placement using the fan. I then used a filter mesh and drilled holes in the same spot, then affixed the fan to the spot with the mesh bound between it.
I did this to see if blowing low RPM air in would then help level the hot air coming up off the GPU into my liquid cooled CPU 240mm radiator. It turns out Liquid CPU is the way to go and the back fan didn't really do much. Because so much air passes up due to the bottom 200mm fans, the air itself due to expansion isn't really hot, even with the GPU (2080TI) running at peak.
Back fan on and off, I had to have it up to 60% before there was a single degree drop but being liquid, it was slow to change.
Overall, this is the best case I have ever used in terms of proper GPU cooling. Since CPUs have a ton of closed loop options to go along with the CPU and GPUs only really have 1 dedicated closed loop system per gen (in the case of Nvidia with their Hybrids) and because modded closed loops on a GPU look kinda bad, this case is well fitted. It allows you to utilize air cooled GPU with a liquid cooled CPU. Add to that, RBG bottom 200mms and RBG top 140mms on the radiator set to white, it gives off enough light to fill the case fairly evenly, but the GPU has to be vertical.
That's the Qbert motif on the mesh.
For the entire first 5 minutes I was wondering .. where the heck is the PSU ?? lol, that's nice. I had that once in a Casemodbuild I did back in the early 00s.
oooh nice case been looking for a new case lately. :)
Nope lost me at no reset switch plus the lack of rear fan port makes this a non-option. Once you have a large radiator on top there is no exhaust for case air to flow unless you are happy with intake via the base. Looks nice though
yup. if nothing else make a cover for that area if they feel the need to shut it up.
Pressing button resets, holding button turns it off.
@@janus3555 Powering off is not a reset
I got this case and one of the giant fans on the bottom is dead, which really sucks because they are sealed on to the case :(
Uhm they're just screwed in place. Remove the grille on top of them and you'll have total access. Check the manual how to.
@@GrimpakTheMook I'll take another look but I'm pretty sure it's just a bunch of melted plastic or something inside the holes where the screws would usually be
@@GrimpakTheMook I'll be dipped, you were right. Opened it up and took another look, this time from the bottom after removing the filter and there were the screws. More importantly I noticed that the fan blade was out of place and wedged underneath the case, keeping it from spinning. I popped it back up in to place and now it is working great.
TLDR; THANK YOU :)
@@LeginNoslen you're welcome! I'm actually "returning" to this case. Last year I started a setup with it but with what I had, it was getting a bit too cramped for watercooling and replaced it with a phanteks enthoo pro 2. However, I always loved the style of the case, and when I saw the black version, I got determined to try to make an open loop that would fit in it again.
This doesn't look like a case that would fit a larger Asus Rog Strix 2080 TI OC Card? I would say if a Rog 2080 ti oc fits it's cutting it super close. Also the HDD in front of the PSU Should of been adjustable "Up and Down" Anything you put in front of the PSU will restrict airflow to the unit, So having the HDD Adjustable should of been an option of maybe it is one, except she didn't know it was one? Maybe the PSU can be moved up and away from the HDD, since she said the PSU was Adjustable?
318mm clearance. Rog Strix is 299mm so 19mm of room. If you vertical it, that's perfect and if using the cable wrap around extension bar (bought extra), you can get the 2x 8pins plugged in directly from the power supply with only a bit of cable showing.
Ultimately though, this case is designed for GPU cooling and with a Liquid CPU cooling using 240mm radiator, it'll run better than most. GPU's are typically hard to get as Hybrids and are almost entirely Air unless you modify it which then makes the card look terrible. CPUs on the other hand have good looking liquid closed loop options. For this reason, they're popular setups, having air GPU and liquid CPU. This case makes use of that.
What I went ahead and did on mine was removed the plate that was used to hold a hard drive as it was covering the PSU. This allowed full intake of air. I then used a 5inch drill cup with an arbor bit and drilled a hole in the back for the 120mm fan. Using Noctua black with the binding rubber attachments in the 4 smaller drilled holes, I was able to then afix a mesh then the fan over the mesh with the rubber attachments poked through the hole in the mesh, This allowed there to be a proper, nice looking rear fan. I set it up to blow air in under a low setting so it doesn't overpower the updraft and to provide cooling air that negated some of the heated air that may have come up from cooling off the GPU.
Under high stress I noticed the CPU never cleared 65 Celsius. With the back fan turned off it hit maybe 66 degrees infrequently but it would hover at 65 with 20% in 66 range. GPU was the lowest reading I have ever seen. M2 Drive was below it and received direct air as did the RAM.
This is probably the best case I have ever seen and the design really should be used more often since GPU cooling is typically more vital as you can easily liquid cool the CPU.
Nice pc. Is it for sale.😃
Anyone know if this case can fit 4x200mm noctua fans?? 2xTop 2xBottom
yes
Only one at the bottom left. On the top, you need to put the stock fans that are currently at the bottom, and at the bottom right you need to buy an extra CoolerMaster 200mm (which is thinner than the Noctua). I also put the radiator at the bottom and it's a huge difference.
Definitely sexy looking. Can't wait for the Hair Gawd To review it.
All those brackets and braces. She forgot the brace for the back though.
That's a cool case, but I guess I'm old school. I still want my optical drive.
But why ?!!
thx
Alaina = Nirvana
Big? Nah, not compared to my Fractal Design XL R2, it isn't. Prettier though, I have to admit. I'd want to turn the GPU vertical and the CPU cooler horizontal and add another pair of 200mm fans exhausting out of the top...even then it's probably not going to be the air flow king. That's all right, I'm not really concerned with a few degrees here and there. This is now on my short list for my next build, which will be right about the time AMD drops Ryzen 3000.
She needs a break on the coffee
Dude that motherboard looks so damn sexy!
Alaina is very nice girl. The Case looks very good and modern.
you completely missed showing how to top came off....
what a cutey! the case i mean.
#airflow
cooler master hd clamps lock .. hopeless crap. do not buy!!
worst case ever lol