The thing about the Light type is that we already have it in the form of Fairy and Psychic: Necrozma is all about eating and giving off light and its Psychic type, and Dazzling Gleam is a Fairy type move. Fairy types are Light type, but they also represent cutesy, charming and magical themes. Like how Dark represents literal darkness, night, and underhanded tactics, or Dragon represents literal dragons as well as arcane power/mana.
I disagree. The moves Flash Cannon, Power Gem, Solar Beam, Solar Blade, Flash, Confuse Ray, Signal Beam, Tail Glow and Judgement also fall in line with the element of light. That's the Steel, Rock, Grass, Ghost, Bug and Normal type having at least one move that uses light in some way. Turn all of that into a single type and that gets taken away from all of them. We already have the "Light Type" in the form of moves and descriptions of Pokémon. Just look at Ampharos and Lantern. Not Psychic types but they would deserve the Light type before anyone else besides the Light Trio. Same goes for Sound. Straight up Sparkling Aria, Boomburst and Overdrive off the top of my head.
@@OmarRodriguez-pj3qy Yeah that's absolutely true, though I would argue that some of those make sense to not be Fairy or Psychic. Like Solar Beam/Blade being based on photosynthesis, so it makes sense for them to be Grass type. And yeah, Electric does also fill the Light type niche.
Fairies are known to be without any specific alinement and are often tricksters by nature, sometimes getting quite dark, and Psychic implies some sort of inner magic derived from the mind. I’d rather look at Fairy as more adjacent to psychic then a rival to Dark type. Light could be the hero type, the ones who glow, or even just holy/righteous being sort of character. It could recontextualize a lot of pre-existing characters. Like Gallade could take on the Light type to show his role as a Princess’ hero, while Pokemon are named pretty straightforward like “the light trio” that refer to Solgaleo, Lunala, and Necrozma. Fairy types are neutral magical beings. While dark types are often evil and not necessarily magical. Light would complete the alignment chart with its use as good/heroic Pokémon.
Nah, Light has more with Electric and Steel than Fairy. That's also why I hate people making Dark super effective against Light. What logic does that make? Darkness is the absence of light, Light should be IMMUNE to Dark, or at least resist it.
Somehow, my favorite interpretation and justification of Pokemon types comes from fanfiction of all things. In Borne of Caution, by Fuggmann, there's an incredible digression on it, even if it's limited to just a few types. First, "one must first understand the inherent differences between the four ethereal pokemon types: Psychic, Ghost, Dark, and Fairy. All other types have elements that totally or partially reside in the physical world." This is all in a single chapter, Act 2 Ch 13. "Dark and Fairy exist close to Psychic and Ghost, overlapping but not truly touching. Where Psychic and Ghost are the realms of intellect and emotion respectively, Dark and Fairy occupy an even muddier scale of intent along the axis of Psychic and Ghost, forming a wicked compass." "Psychics are the most populous of the four, and thus the type the layman thinks of when they see phenomena that do not obviously belong to another type. Psychics are rooted deeply in using cold logic and intellect to enforce one's will upon the world around them, with almost zero emotional component. Ghost and Dark energy will disrupt Psychics for this reason, as the volatile emotions within these energies are not a quantifiable concept that a Psychic can control or calculate." "Ghosts are the opposite of Psychics. Strip away the flesh and the mind, and what are you left with? A soul, a being of pure sentiment and passion. Here, understanding becomes hazy for most. Love, hate, joy, sadness, and every emotion save raw apathy has a power that cannot be measured with the eye or instruments. Emotion is what makes a soul, what fuels it, and what drives it forward. [...] strong feelings are a power that defies and persists even beyond death." "Dark is the element of animalistic desire and violence. The want to cause harm, the want to control, the want to spread misery. That is not to say all who bear the epithet of Dark-type are monsters, but that the most personable of them are pokemon of admirable self-control. A Dark pokemon may love and hate like any other, but only the intent within will empower Dark energies. Many fail to realize this and nurture a most detestable character in the pursuit of power." "Fairy is a type I hesitate to put into words. Most would think Fairy to be the type of joy and happiness, but that's not quite correct. There is an underlying sinister, distorted nature that I do not truly grasp, one required to bear these powers in battle with the intent to harm. I know precious little about these energies or the minds of those who wield them. The state of mind required to master Fairy-type is alien, and that is all I know for certain. I have doubts that many of the users of Fairies actually understand their pokemon."
This reminds me of something: Steel type is weak to fire, fighting, and ground type moves, while resistant to normal, grass, ice, flying, bug, rock, steel, psychic, dragon, and fairy type moves. Steel type moves are only strong against ice, rock, and fairy, but steel type moves are ineffective against fire, water, electric and steel. Dragon type is weak to ice, dragon, and fairy, and is resistant to fire, water, grass, and electric. To me, it seems like steel type has the most strengths and weaknesses to and against more "real" types. Dragons, psychic abilities, and fairies do not exist in the real world, but everything else steel type does well and poorly does
@@quirkyperson125steel is good against fairy and dragon because swords are used in fairy tales to kill monsters. Steel resists psychic because robots can't be manipulated telepathically. Steel resists the rest of those things because steel is hard.
I also agree with your sound type opinion. I like the moves "subtypes" like punch, pulse and sound. I would like more of them to be added to the game, since it adds more dynamics to moves.
Of all the subtypes Sound is the best candidate to become a stand-alone type tho, That being said, I don't actually want official games to introduce sound type, But I encourage fakemon creators to try to make it the official fan-type.
Honestly I've always really wanted a thing similar to rotom that encompasses the electromagnetic spectrum that has different types based on whatever electromagnetic wave it is! I feel like it would be really cool for a light type mon!
Theres a lot of design work that needs to go into designing types. Its not just about themes, that is just one part of what makes a good design. Theres the functional aspect which a lot of people overlook. If its just for art and creativity sake, then maybe that can be ignored. But if you're actually going to make a game, then each type added creates exponentially more work that needs to be done. Considering the effectiveness of each type against each other type, each pokemon, balancing and testing all of it is a lot of work. Also N0Rtist mentioned in a previous video, wanting to have subtypes as well, which is even more complexity. Not saying it can't all be done, but inexperience with controlling scope can kill a project.
I like the way the romhack Pokemon Prism does with Gas and Sound types. Gas is weak and strong against fire (same the other way) and how Sound type is immune to itself.
I've always felt like more than a sound type there should be a music type, to encompass the dance archetype as well. Or maybe an art type? That would be cool
@@sirk603music is pretty broad like there are a ton of different instruments song and dance types out there you could make a ton of different Pokemon just based off of instruments alone.
I like the sound and light types conceptually, and find when people use them in creating new or reimagined pokemon they work great. Adding them as new types to pokemon itself has its own issues that make it unlikely or unneeded/useless. I prefer sound as a move type (as mentioned) or theme, and dark itself isn't explicitly "evil," so I don't think we need light, plus fairy and fighting in my opinion fit that role well. If you removed one of them though, it would hurt a lot of the pokemon designs already out there, so it's best for a creation/game of it's own.
Holy crap, my light type suggestion actually made it through a video! Also, I'm VERY glad someone else thinks sound works better as a category rather than an actual type.
@@magica3526 before hundreds suggested light one person suggested light. it spread. maybe others who see the post will spur other hundreds. this is how stuff gets to gamefreak.
@@_alternianIdiot ... no? it's a braindead simple concept that most people could come up with on their own. It's been suggested en masse since as long as i've been playing pokemon. Gamefreak has heard about it by now, and aren't interested in adding it
I was always a huge fan of the Cosmic type ever since the Fairy Type most definitely filled the niche the light type was supposed to, while also providing enough unique pre-existing lore and Pokémon to reappropriate from the overbloated Normal or Psychic types, and the potential is otherwise sheer endless. I'm quite saddened that Pokémon will never go back to something akin to your project where there is just a huge flood of new lore with some implications for the wider world which such a new type in a Gen 5-style setting where one is forced to confront the new things could provide. Oh well, fan games are the future!
Cosmic type is better than these two types because Pokemon that came from space are Psychic Pokemons which is absurd since being a Psychic doesn't always equate to being in the Cosmos. It's not like asteroids are inherently connected to being psychic...
@@monelmonelmonel Exactly, similar things apply to Pokémon such as Deoxys or Solrock and Lunatone whose otherworldly character is meant to be taken more literally rather than something transcendental which I interpret is the main niche of either the Psychic or Fairy Type. Why exactly Solgaleo or Lunala are part Psychic, for example, will elude me.
@@BeanKally The point is to remove that aspect of the Psychic type to limit it to more explicitly paranormal things, be it Telekinesis or other things while a hypothetical Cosmic type would be way more explicitly concerned with extraterrestrial matters.
What about a Soul type to replace Ghost? Or maybe it could be in-between Ghost and Fairy so you could also replace Fairy with something else? Idk just an idea I've had a little while ago because I felt that Ghost and Dark were really similar to each other when it came to their general design vibes, so "Soul" felt like a good enough alternative to separate it further from Dark and allow for more variety in designs too.
Here are my personal reasons for why Light and Sound types don't really need to be added. I should note that I'm not against the ideas or hate people who just wanna see them btw. Light: I feel like both aspects have already been covered. For the "purity" and "heroism", it's already done by the Fairy type. Pure kindness and good will is already their motto and before someone tries to correct me again, I KNOW. Actual fairies are horrible tricksters. I mean that 90% of Fairy type POKEMON are meant to be good little balls of kindness or are kind by nature e.g Gardevoir, the entire Cleffa line, etc (sorry, I've just had a lot of people telling me over and over again that they're evil. Never rudely, thankfully, but it is annoying when it happens over and over again). And yes, I know it is also the "magic" type, but Psychic and Dragon also already do magic so we aren't talking about that side. As for literal light, Electric type kinda already covers the scientific side through goofy cartoon electricity being incredibly bright and some Electric Pokemon being based on light sources e.g the Chinchou line. Sound: making noise is something most living and non-living things do on the daily. It's extremely... well, normal. Scraping something makes noise, animals make noise to threaten or attract, etc. If a drop of water hitting a puddle makes noise, so can literal God himself aka Arceus. Plus, there are already "sound-based moves". I simply don't feel like these types can work since their concepts have already been gone over by other existing types. But just like everyone, I do wish they existed.
fairy isn’t the “good” type, look at impadimp. historically, there are a LOT more stories about fae creatures causing harm either maliciously or unintentionally then there are stories about fairies being purely benevolent
@@sas.tronaut5055 I know. I mean more in Pokemon. The only truely "evil" Fairy Pokemon (that I can think of off the top of my head) are Mimikyu, the Hattenna line, the Impadimp line, and some of the Paradox Pokemon. I'm fully aware that in actual tales, Fae are mostly tricksters or just horrible monsters rather than cute little helpers. I meant more of Pokemon like Gardevoir. Retyped into Psychic/Fairy and all about being good and loyal. Most of the Pokemon that are or were eventually give the Fairy type have something to do with kindness and/or light energy is what I meant. Heck, I'm British, we basically invented the lil guys.
Makes sense in light’s case, since I feel most things related to it could easily be covered by fairy or electric, but I think there’s an argument to be made for the sound type. It’s a much broader concept than people give it credit for. Sure, it could simply just involve something that makes loud noises, but it could also refer to singing, musical instruments, percussion, echolocation, and even vibrations in the ground. Most light types I see could fairly easily be shuffled into another type and it would make just as much sense, but when it comes to, say, a Pokémon based off of sheet music, while you could maybe just shove it into the normal type or maybe psychic type, it would definitely fit a sound type much more. Not to mention, a type dedicated to such an interesting and broad subject opens the floodgates for a ton of cool fakemon concepts. Anyway though, that’s just my opinion. The other type I like to use in fakemon creation is the food type, since, in a similar vein to sound, it’s a way broader subject than people give it credit for, not only is it the most fitting type for some goofy fakemon based off dishes, it could also apply to wider subjects like protein and the many sources of it, or the chemicals that provide sustenance to creatures on the deep ocean floor. Heck, it could even refer to sunlight since plants use it to sustain themselves!
You do have a point. However, I do want to say that if we try to design mons based on concepts of light without a light type, we will have to make them look inherently electric or fairy and that can interfere with what we're trying to do. Sure, Chinchou shows that it is possible but there's not a lot of Pokemon that put a focus on light. For this project however, I can imagine that we're going to have a lot of designs with a heavy focus on light so here, I think it's justified. Plus, a light type can be used to demonstrate ways of bending, reflecting, and filtering light instead of just ways of emitting light. For sound though, I don't see much of a reason to make it its own type instead of making it an attribute of normal type. I can't imagine a lot of concepts that can be turned into mons unless we start going into like, music theory.
I really feel like the light type should have been added a long time ago, given that ghost and dark exist, fairy and light balance those out pretty well together. Cosmic type is also an interesting idea i've seen mentioned. These two seem way more appropriate for pokémon than a sound type imo
I made a custom pokemon type, which is light. Its super effective on dark, but also weak to this type at the same type. I know im for sure not the first person who made its own light type, but i just wanted do tell
I have 7 types I came up with weaknesses and resistances for that aren't just copy and paste from other media. I have 9 new types total, but 2 of them are Unknown (??? - Shadow Pokémon) and Nuclear (Pokémon Uranium). My other 7 are: Light - Pokémon that encompass both being righteous and virtuous, and angelic, but also literal shining light. Sound - Pokémon that utilize and harness sound waves. Also, heavily music/dance inspired. Cosmic - Space Pokémon or Pokémon that utilize the moon, sun and stars to get stronger. Cyber - Virtual Pokémon, or Pokémon that embody the idea of computer viruses and spyware/malware. Wind - NOT Flying type. These are Pokémon that manipulate the air around them for various purposes, such as sharp wind blades, letting them float, or harden the air under their feet to create platforms of air. Rubber - Pokémon either made of Rubber or that have extremely elastic/stretchy bodies, or simply a part of their anatomy that is stretchy/nimble/flexible. Blood (or Hemo. Still unsure about the name) - Pokémon that not only manipulate the blood of themselves and others, but also can cause bleeding (a new status condition) and even manipulate the cells and antibodies of others, essentially making them sick. Needles and other laboratory equipment is a common theme here, too.
Here is half an idea for an ability. "Scene Chains" -The more attacks done during a battle, the more it changes closer to Trace based on your speed. The more non-attacks done during a battle, the more it changes closer to Intimidate based on your speed. The rest is a sequence of 5 abilities in between. This ability that matches other abilities is based on the Doppler Effect with a bit of that Prowler meme mixed in. Feel free to use it as a debug Ability. Thoughts?
I think the biggest issue with "the light type" is that a lot of types already fill the role light types would Fairy, fighting, electric. A lot of types already represent light or being the heroic balance against the dark As for a sound type... I can kinda see it. Considering theres a large pool of moves based off attack, there are 2 abilities in the game that deal with "sound-based moves", and there are even sound based mons like the wismur line, chatot, and noivern. I can see sound being a type The only issue is adding another type that doesnt off-set the chart already. Fairy was a good addition because it gave dragon another type to be weak to, gave dark a counter-balance, and made fighting types deal with a new weakness. It worked for fairy to be added. So my only issue would be adding another type without adding more pressure to the type chart. Cuz I think after fairy, it will be a lot harder to make a new type that doesnt affect the type balance all too much Other than my complaints (more of concerns about new types post-fairy) I think its the only fan-made type that coupd theoretically work and make sense in tur context of pokemon
The problem with Sound type in general is that its already also fullfilling a certain niche that is covered by the other types, as its essentially a Sub-type in the game already. Another issue is that in terms of moves, the only moves that make sense for convertion into the Sound type, are the likes of Echoed Voice/Hyper voice and so on, but that becomes a problematic matter on its own when we consider Drampa is a Normal/Dragon type that doesn't make sense to become Sound type, losing its Normal type STAB for Hyper/Echoed Voice, making its Normal typing bascially useless, so it also should become Sound/Dragon, while that makes no sense for example.
Who else first heard of the Doppler effect in that one episode of Malcolm In The Middle? In any case, it's certainly exciting to hear the headway you're making, I haven't been doing much gaming in a while, but it'd be pretty neat to see your Stema game come into fruition! Neat video!
Maybe odd idea, but you could have types that are exclusively only to moves. So like Sound could be a type and have strengths and weaknesses but without an associate creature. Might not make any sense but I could see it having some game balance potential?
I posted a main comment but I'll post this in reply as well: I don't believe Sound should be a type at all. I think it should be part of a codified sub-categories called Sensory Effects and consist of 3 main groups: Sound, Scent and Sight. Moves like Sweet Scent and Odor Sleuth would be placed in the Scent group. Moves like Flash would be placed in the Sight category and for Pokemon that don't rely on Sight, like Zubat, would be unaffected by Sight-based debuff effects but also sensitive to Sound-based damaging moves.
Coromon does that, and it works well there. But in Pokemon, these moves would have to be more powerful than normal because, by design, they wouldn't get any STAB.
I’ve always liked the idea of a fungus type. Mushrooms in the Pokémon universe are always portrayed as grass and poison type, yet mushrooms themselves aren’t actually plants, and not all fungi are necessarily poisonous. Besides, a fungus type opens for a lot of new Pokémon designs, as it isn’t limited to *just* mushrooms. Someone could make a Pokémon based off that one fungus that controls ant corpses, who knows!
There's a pokemon based on that fungus, and it controls alive ants not exactly dead ones (they do later die)..it's paras and parasect! Most Fungi are mushrooms..that's kinda the problem, it limits is a bit, I think the only Fungi that isn't a mushroom is molds (and yeast I think)? So a fungus type would only really have 2 options to base pokemon on: mushrooms or molds..unlike grass type as a whole which includes anything plant based and fungi as they look similar to plants (and making a unique typing JUST for fungi would be..boring? It wouldn't be as broad as the other typings)
@@testerwulf3357 Oh yeah, I kind of forgot about paras and parasect while making that comment lol. I mean even if there aren’t many type of fungi, I still feel that with the large variety of mushrooms, there could be a lot of unique ideas. But that’s just how I feel, you do bring up a good point.
The Morelull line is also a mushroom Pokémon but it is Grass/Fairy, but it is very easy to forget since it is not advertised with any Alolan game, is not special in Galar, and is absent in Paldea. It also almost never does well in competitive.
Most mushroom mons arent poisonous, paras and parasect are parasite that affect cicadas, shoomish and breloom a dinosaur tbat has a symbiotic relationship with fungi, fungus and amoongus are the only poisonous shrooms,morellull is fairy type and biolluminescent and toedscool and its evo are edible mushrooms
Actually, most of the mushroom Pokémon aren’t poison type. They are all grass type, but they’ve had different other types - bug (paras), fighting (breloom), poison (amoonguss), fairy (morelull) and ground (toedscruel)
The thing about the Types is that "Dark" is a mistranslation. It is supposed to mean "evil" A Dark move is cheap, underhanded, dirty, and powerful. Dragon, meanwhile, is the true Dark type with Fairy being its opposing Light type.
Wow! nice job n0Rtist! I have some ideas, so make sure to Read all of this! 1. Carnot cycle Pokemon. A possible Carnot cycle Pokemon could be named Carnomoo, which would be a Steel-type Pokemon. It would have a body structure that resembles a mechanical engine, with rotating gears and pistons visible as part of its design. Carnomoo's ability would be called "Efficiency Mastery," which would allow it to maximize the use of heat and energy in battle. This means it can absorb heat from the environment or from its opponent's attacks and convert it into mechanical energy to boost its strength and speed. In terms of moves, Carnomoo would have access to various attacks that represent different stages of the Carnot cycle, including Heat Absorption, Adiabatic Compression, Isothermal Expansion, and Adiabatic Expansion. These moves would allow Carnomoo to manipulate temperature and pressure to gain an upper hand in battle. Overall, Carnomoo would be a formidable opponent due to its efficiency in energy conversion and its unique ability to manipulate heat and energy for its own advantage. 2. A possible Higgs boson Pokemon could be named Bosopod, which would be an Electric/Water-type Pokemon. It would have a body design similar to a Isopod with a nucleus at its center surrounded by orbiting electrons. Bosopod's ability would be called "Particle Master," which would allow it to manipulate subatomic particles to create electric and water-based attacks. This means it can change the charge of particles in the air or water to create powerful electric currents or manipulate the cohesive forces between water molecules to create powerful waves. In terms of moves, Bosopod would have access to various attacks that represent different interactions and properties of the Higgs boson particle, including Gravitational Charge, Weak Nuclear Force, and Strong Nuclear Force. These moves would allow Bosopod to manipulate fundamental forces and interactions to gain an upper hand in battle. Overall, Bosopod would be a versatile and powerful opponent due to its unique ability to manipulate subatomic particles and fundamental forces to create devastating attacks. thank you
Main reasons not to add Light or Sound to Pokemon proper is just redundancy issues and balancing issues (so many types exist already, most of their effects already exist under other types just fine). When making a new project, there's a lot more room to not include highly Pokemon-specific stuff like Bug, Dragon, Fairy, and Dark typings.
Well! I think you helped me figure out the type for my Pokemon Loveletter game! For context, im creating a dual-type system where every pokemon has two types - what they are, and what they do. Which means a Rock-Fire type would be different from a Fire-Rock type (the first one is made out lf rock and breathes fire, the second one is made of fire and throws/manipulates rocks). For STAB effects, your resistance is 75% of your fitst types resistance and 25% of your 2nd types resistance, so a plant type attack would deal about 1.625x damage to the first creature (Rock-Fire) and 0.875 to the second creature (Fire-Rock). Anyways, because each type can be bkth what it is and what it does, i eas struggling with yhe relationship between controlling air/wind, bird attacks, being a cloud, and kf ibwpuld include sound, etc. But i think I might define it as a Wave type, encompassing both soundwaves and airwaves
I was never huge on the Light type idea, since in my mind, I saw Fairy as filling that role of bright and colourful stuff, as well as general positivity. Sound, on the other hand, I was way more of a fan of, because it isn’t really covered in any other type properly: the best we have for it is normal (since normal is the baseline for anything not covered imo), flying (both are connected to air), and psychic (something about the sound and mind being connected). It was never properly covered, and I think it could be cool if it were.
personally I feel like it is too late to add a new type to pokemon especially something like sound which has been covered in other pokemon. Sure chatot and exploud could just have their normal type removed but then what about noivern, it perfectly fits the type but which of its two types do you remove to add it? it doesn't make sense for it to not be a flying type but it'd also feel wrong for it not to be a dragon. What about oricori? it's a bird so it should be flying but it still fits the sound type well and you can't change its other type because that's the entire gimic
combine both concepts and create a wave type; wave types can control oscillations of particles allowing for sound attacks on sound creatures, lights lasers and radiation on light creatures, and cool stuff like earthquakes and attacking despite defensive moves
I made my type matchup for sound Super affective against Fairy (because balencing sakes) Ice (like shattering glass with your voice) Psychic (voice annoys mind) Weak to Wa'er (blaiahagaugauaug) .... Don't know why I never made something that resists it or it resists but I made bug immune to it… cuz bugs are deaf I made a boombox line Sinbox (one boombox and SING!!! Ah ah?) Bibox And then a split With the fire stone it's Desiboom! (It shoots exploding disco balls and it has a cool rock design(it's fire sound and it's a special attacker)) And with a… leveling up while knowing a dark move Deseivil (dark sound..... Uhh it's name is desible deseive and evil... It's a physical attacker...)
Fairy = Light Normal = Sound (some attacks) You already have it. Fairy was added to balance Dragon, that's why. As far as we feel in the meta, there's no reason to add any other new types.
Oh i already coded these (by grabbing them around the internet) Sound is just "better normal" and light is literally the opposite of dark (and theyre supereffective against each other~)
Personally i believe sound type is already covered by the normal type(most sound-based pokemon are normal type and it has most sound-based moves) and the fairy type The fairies and the fae are usually associated with song and music such as sirens, merfolk, selkies and fairies in general, like the sea maiden of beloxi or satyrs, which is why i think they take over the sound typing The normal type uses MOST of the sound-based moves and sound is everywhere and its NORMAL, so its placement in the normal type is pretty reasonable
I personally think that Sound is very possible as a type to be added eventually, while Light isn’t. Sound is very similar to the situation of Fairy. Lots of Pokémon already fit into it (which all just use Normal right now), and it is distinct as a theme/element. We even already have sound-based moves which could all be made into Sound type. Soundproof as ability could provide a Sound immunity (like Levitate does against Ground moves). It’s also been requested and theorised for so long now. It’s kind of a perfect type to be added because of all these things. Meanwhile, Light already fits into the Fairy type. Light could mean nice, kind, heroic, and healing, which all fit with Fairy’s “nice” theme. And even the idea of Light as in brightness is kind of already done within Fire and Electric. Another type I could see possibly being added is some kind of Digital type. Again, we have some Pokémon that kind of fit into this and are just Normal now (Porygon line specifically). It’s also relatively distinct (no other type covers its theme). But the case for this isn’t as strong as Sound. Some people talk about ‘Cosmic’ type but that’s already part of Psychic imo.
The Problem is that Sound in itself is already covered with other types. We have the likes of Bug Buzz and Grass Whistle as Sound type moves, but they also have a move in the name. The same goes for the newly introduced Psychic Noise. Those are as such never gonna be converted into the Sound type. Then we also have the likes of Sparkling Aria (Water), Torch Song (Fire), Overdrive (Electric), which are never gonna be converted into the Sound type, since the Pokemon using them, despite being sound based Pokemon, are never gonna be converted into the Sound type, since 2 of them are starters (Primarina and Skeledirge) and the other one is Toxtricity (Which literally means Toxic Electricity). Kommo-o is another Sound-Based Pokemon that is never gonna get a type change, since its a Psuedo legendary + design wise, it makes no sense to change it either. It also has 2 Sound based moves with Clangorous Soul and Clanging Scales, as well as an exclusive Z-Move. There is literally no point in changing the non-damaging Normal type Sound based moves into Sound type, since they don't give STAB anyways. So that only leaves Boomburst, Echoed Voice, Round and Hyper Voice for convertion into the Sound type, which in turn ruins a Pokemon like Meloetta (Who by proxy of being a mythical also doesn't get the type change) or Oranguru, who doesn't make sense to be converted into the Sound type, but can use the Normal type Sound based moves, meaning the only Normal type special move it has if the sound based moves get converted, is Hyper Beam, basically rendering Oranguru absolete. Even then, the Sound-Based Pokemon that can be converted and to make sense, aren't a lot either. Like, we have the Whismur line, Chingling line, Chatot, Bronzor line and Noibat line, but thats it. Other Sound based Pokemon either already got a type change (Jigglypuff/Clefairy/Azurill lines), have a gimmick (Audino/Lapras), are starters (Primarina, Rillaboom, Skeledirge), is a psuedo (Kommo-o), Sound would literally mess up the localization name (Toxtricity), is a mythical (Meloetta), which as such aren't getting a type change.
I have had an idea for a chaos type for a bit now. I think an entropy type might fit with your world. That one monkey mon you made would match it quite well, at least the first evolution. It could also act as a cosmic type, because space just kinda seems chaotic? There’s a better explanation somewhere, I just don’t have the words for it. Then agin, this IS the kind of type that works best with a world built around it, and probably won’t work that well when inserted into a pre-existing world that doesn’t already have a theme of chance, chaos, and/or space in it.
I'd love a Light type. It would solve all the Psychic type issues. Plus I feel that the Fairy type should've been a counter to Dragon only and not Dark. So a Light type would help both cases.
I feel like a “fungi” type would work pretty well in the franchise and possibly be a good addition if done right, sure it would be similar to grass, (not to mention grass already kind of takes the place of fungus) but it could be different enough to work. A couple Pokémon and moves off the top of my head that I can think of are obviously, Parasect, Breloom, and Foongus. Moves such as, spore and sleep powder could all fit into the fungus category. Fungus, like cordyceps often take other animals as hosts (such as insects) so, it is safe to say a fungus type would be strong against Pokémon with the bug typing. Fungus also decomposes many organisms after death; this would possibly make the type strong against ghost types and maybe even dark types. Mushrooms are often considered as good luck and are associated with fairytales meaning the type would most likely resist or not have any effect on fairy types, aswell as fairy types not having an effect on mushrooms. Many fungi prefer dark, sometimes damp, humid areas to grow in, so the water and dark types could be thought of as being taken advantage of by fungi meaning a fungus type would be strong against those two typings along with bug and ghost. As for its weaknesses, it would likely be similar to grass and bug, being weak to fire, flying, rock, and ice type moves. It would probably resist poison because many fungi are in fact poisonous when eaten, and maybe resist psychic because mushrooms are often associated with having psychedelic properties, some mushrooms even being intoxicating and leading to hallucinations. That’s all I could think of off the top of my head, but feel free to correct me on somethings if I got them wrong.
The reason I support sound type is DUE to how well intergrated it already is as a move subtype. It has a "gimmick" like other types: it ignores subsitution like how fire types can't be e burned. It has abilities the buff it, and abilities that ignore it, it was a decent amount of mons designed after it, ect.
And that it should stay, a subtype. We literally don't need the Sound type in the game, since we already have it and a permanent Sound type wouldn't add anything to the type chart.
what if you have a sound-type pokemon that's not literally about sound? like a water-type that's about waves that MAYBE you could interperit as sound? or a light-sensitive pokemon that can pick up waves and other kinds of signals like sound
taking the whole franchise into account, it's very surprising to me that cosmic and sound types weren't added already, fits so many mons, moves and lore
Cosmic is literally already coverted by Psychic and Fairy and a less extent the Rock typing, so Cosmic is redundant. Sound is in the game. Not only is it called Normal type, its also a subcategory of moves.
@nickdentoom1173 don't think so, especially bc cosmic it's also in the game already, not to mention all the pokemon that comes from outer space, cosmic cover the mysticism, unknown and beyond way better than psychic, which it's just mental tricks and some magic, and well fairy it's just light a great typing for legends just as much as fairy and dragon imo
Even though for a while I think Sound type would be cool to have in Pokémon, I think I know why we don’t have it. First, it feels a lot like both Psychic or Normal type (mainly Normal Type). Second, adding a new type means changing how a bunch of types work against each other. Light type it’s probably just them being to lazy to want to add it, and also the previous reason #2.
I wanted to make a branch evolution for Charcadet based on soundwaves, like, have you seen sound be used actively as an attack? Or the potency some sounds have to, maybe not be fatal but can cause permanent damage, soundwaves that can only be heard by animals, so much potential
for me personally sound type are more of a theme in typing like we have moves like Beams, Slashes, Bites Punches, while Light is opposite all types are from light, basicly Necrozma shows it hy light refraction, from white light to other spectres etc. in this case other types
in another one of your earlier videos on types I mentioned my own type called the “radiation” type and I think now is no better time to mention it again. Rather than being limited to light, a radiation type could pull from the full electromagnetic spectrum and even have a little cosmic inspiration due to how much radiation is flung about in space. I also think it fits the theme of the game quite well too, being science and all that.
I have not seen the video, but I will give my opinion about it, As for the Sound type, I think that the only thing they want is that the movements referred to that are covered. Certainly, I don't see any potential for that hypothetical elemental type, I mean, they will only be musical instruments and ultrasound, I can't think of anything else. As for the light type, I think that fairy and fight would already be left with the "good" thing. And Electric in terms of the physical. Personally, I would add a Technological type, let me explain why, technology is not just robots, it is everything that human beings create at their convenience. I mean, even a spoon is technology, and, thinking about it, this has a lot of potential, not only robots and mecha, they could also add pokemon that use objects or their environment to their advantage, it would also cover things like civilizations and aliens, but even more, It could cover pokemon based on art and others that have to do with humanity, that being said, it could be seen that this hypothetical type would be very varied, being able to cover everything from Blastoise and Rotom to Smeargle and Yamask, obviously they would not use this last type of pokemon missiles or anything, but their movements could have the "Technological" type.
Perhaps you can combine light and sound into a "wave"' type that deals with many things that come in waves and rays like light, sound, and radio to name a few. It could be used to make interesting type combos with water waves and heat waves too.
The thing about the Light type is that we already have it in the form of Fairy and Psychic: Necrozma is all about eating and giving off light and its Psychic type, and Dazzling Gleam is a Fairy type move. Fairy types are Light type, but they also represent cutesy, charming and magical themes. Like how Dark represents literal darkness, night, and underhanded tactics, or Dragon represents literal dragons as well as arcane power/mana.
I disagree. The moves Flash Cannon, Power Gem, Solar Beam, Solar Blade, Flash, Confuse Ray, Signal Beam, Tail Glow and Judgement also fall in line with the element of light. That's the Steel, Rock, Grass, Ghost, Bug and Normal type having at least one move that uses light in some way. Turn all of that into a single type and that gets taken away from all of them. We already have the "Light Type" in the form of moves and descriptions of Pokémon. Just look at Ampharos and Lantern. Not Psychic types but they would deserve the Light type before anyone else besides the Light Trio.
Same goes for Sound. Straight up Sparkling Aria, Boomburst and Overdrive off the top of my head.
@@OmarRodriguez-pj3qy Yeah that's absolutely true, though I would argue that some of those make sense to not be Fairy or Psychic. Like Solar Beam/Blade being based on photosynthesis, so it makes sense for them to be Grass type. And yeah, Electric does also fill the Light type niche.
Fairies are known to be without any specific alinement and are often tricksters by nature, sometimes getting quite dark, and Psychic implies some sort of inner magic derived from the mind. I’d rather look at Fairy as more adjacent to psychic then a rival to Dark type.
Light could be the hero type, the ones who glow, or even just holy/righteous being sort of character. It could recontextualize a lot of pre-existing characters.
Like Gallade could take on the Light type to show his role as a Princess’ hero, while Pokemon are named pretty straightforward like “the light trio” that refer to Solgaleo, Lunala, and Necrozma.
Fairy types are neutral magical beings. While dark types are often evil and not necessarily magical.
Light would complete the alignment chart with its use as good/heroic Pokémon.
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Nah, Light has more with Electric and Steel than Fairy. That's also why I hate people making Dark super effective against Light. What logic does that make? Darkness is the absence of light, Light should be IMMUNE to Dark, or at least resist it.
Somehow, my favorite interpretation and justification of Pokemon types comes from fanfiction of all things.
In Borne of Caution, by Fuggmann, there's an incredible digression on it, even if it's limited to just a few types. First, "one must first understand the inherent differences between the four ethereal pokemon types: Psychic, Ghost, Dark, and Fairy. All other types have elements that totally or partially reside in the physical world."
This is all in a single chapter, Act 2 Ch 13. "Dark and Fairy exist close to Psychic and Ghost, overlapping but not truly touching. Where Psychic and Ghost are the realms of intellect and emotion respectively, Dark and Fairy occupy an even muddier scale of intent along the axis of Psychic and Ghost, forming a wicked compass."
"Psychics are the most populous of the four, and thus the type the layman thinks of when they see phenomena that do not obviously belong to another type. Psychics are rooted deeply in using cold logic and intellect to enforce one's will upon the world around them, with almost zero emotional component. Ghost and Dark energy will disrupt Psychics for this reason, as the volatile emotions within these energies are not a quantifiable concept that a Psychic can control or calculate."
"Ghosts are the opposite of Psychics. Strip away the flesh and the mind, and what are you left with? A soul, a being of pure sentiment and passion. Here, understanding becomes hazy for most. Love, hate, joy, sadness, and every emotion save raw apathy has a power that cannot be measured with the eye or instruments. Emotion is what makes a soul, what fuels it, and what drives it forward. [...] strong feelings are a power that defies and persists even beyond death."
"Dark is the element of animalistic desire and violence. The want to cause harm, the want to control, the want to spread misery. That is not to say all who bear the epithet of Dark-type are monsters, but that the most personable of them are pokemon of admirable self-control. A Dark pokemon may love and hate like any other, but only the intent within will empower Dark energies. Many fail to realize this and nurture a most detestable character in the pursuit of power."
"Fairy is a type I hesitate to put into words. Most would think Fairy to be the type of joy and happiness, but that's not quite correct. There is an underlying sinister, distorted nature that I do not truly grasp, one required to bear these powers in battle with the intent to harm. I know precious little about these energies or the minds of those who wield them. The state of mind required to master Fairy-type is alien, and that is all I know for certain. I have doubts that many of the users of Fairies actually understand their pokemon."
Wow, that's a quite interesting concept. I'll look up this fanfic.
This reminds me of something:
Steel type is weak to fire, fighting, and ground type moves, while resistant to normal, grass, ice, flying, bug, rock, steel, psychic, dragon, and fairy type moves.
Steel type moves are only strong against ice, rock, and fairy, but steel type moves are ineffective against fire, water, electric and steel.
Dragon type is weak to ice, dragon, and fairy, and is resistant to fire, water, grass, and electric.
To me, it seems like steel type has the most strengths and weaknesses to and against more "real" types. Dragons, psychic abilities, and fairies do not exist in the real world, but everything else steel type does well and poorly does
@@quirkyperson125steel is good against fairy and dragon because swords are used in fairy tales to kill monsters. Steel resists psychic because robots can't be manipulated telepathically.
Steel resists the rest of those things because steel is hard.
The thing you did with the music while explaining the doppler effect is genius and an awesome detail!!
I also agree with your sound type opinion. I like the moves "subtypes" like punch, pulse and sound. I would like more of them to be added to the game, since it adds more dynamics to moves.
sound is a sub type while punch, pulse, dance, beam, etc are all categories of moves
@@llamadrama1090 they are all the same in-game. The only difference between them is how we choose to call them
Of all the subtypes Sound is the best candidate to become a stand-alone type tho,
That being said, I don't actually want official games to introduce sound type,
But I encourage fakemon creators to try to make it the official fan-type.
Soundproof ability:
Volt absorb ability
Flash fire ability
Earth Eater ability
Levitate ability
Iron rod ability
Honestly I've always really wanted a thing similar to rotom that encompasses the electromagnetic spectrum that has different types based on whatever electromagnetic wave it is! I feel like it would be really cool for a light type mon!
Theres a lot of design work that needs to go into designing types. Its not just about themes, that is just one part of what makes a good design. Theres the functional aspect which a lot of people overlook. If its just for art and creativity sake, then maybe that can be ignored. But if you're actually going to make a game, then each type added creates exponentially more work that needs to be done. Considering the effectiveness of each type against each other type, each pokemon, balancing and testing all of it is a lot of work. Also N0Rtist mentioned in a previous video, wanting to have subtypes as well, which is even more complexity. Not saying it can't all be done, but inexperience with controlling scope can kill a project.
I like the way the romhack Pokemon Prism does with Gas and Sound types. Gas is weak and strong against fire (same the other way) and how Sound type is immune to itself.
I've always felt like more than a sound type there should be a music type, to encompass the dance archetype as well. Or maybe an art type? That would be cool
I guess music is more broad as it covers more themes than "hahaha loud noise go brrrr"
@@CoralReaper707 i have made that in my reigion
@@CoralReaper707 i also have crystal type
@@CoralReaper707i think sound would be more broad, while music would only cover a small subset.
@@sirk603music is pretty broad like there are a ton of different instruments song and dance types out there you could make a ton of different Pokemon just based off of instruments alone.
I like the sound and light types conceptually, and find when people use them in creating new or reimagined pokemon they work great. Adding them as new types to pokemon itself has its own issues that make it unlikely or unneeded/useless. I prefer sound as a move type (as mentioned) or theme, and dark itself isn't explicitly "evil," so I don't think we need light, plus fairy and fighting in my opinion fit that role well. If you removed one of them though, it would hurt a lot of the pokemon designs already out there, so it's best for a creation/game of it's own.
But... The japanese name for the Dark Type is literally "Evil Type".
@@brockrumery3073yeah and not every dark type pokemon is explicitly evil
Fairy Type = Light Type. Normal Type = Sound Type.
@@Fuecococrafti think every pokemon make sounds.
@@jayIG LOL
I saw the food type at the end. I went, 'finally, someone actually MENTIONS this.'
Okay, that Doppler Shift in the music was slick!
Holy crap, my light type suggestion actually made it through a video! Also, I'm VERY glad someone else thinks sound works better as a category rather than an actual type.
1) watch the video first, don't make comments based just on the title
2) literally hundreds of people have suggested light
@@magica3526 let him dream bro
(but let's keep it between the both of us that he's wrong)
@@magica3526 before hundreds suggested light one person suggested light. it spread. maybe others who see the post will spur other hundreds. this is how stuff gets to gamefreak.
@@_alternianIdiot ... no? it's a braindead simple concept that most people could come up with on their own. It's been suggested en masse since as long as i've been playing pokemon. Gamefreak has heard about it by now, and aren't interested in adding it
@@magica3526 i see. well, i guess let them dream like the other dude said
I was always a huge fan of the Cosmic type ever since the Fairy Type most definitely filled the niche the light type was supposed to, while also providing enough unique pre-existing lore and Pokémon to reappropriate from the overbloated Normal or Psychic types, and the potential is otherwise sheer endless. I'm quite saddened that Pokémon will never go back to something akin to your project where there is just a huge flood of new lore with some implications for the wider world which such a new type in a Gen 5-style setting where one is forced to confront the new things could provide. Oh well, fan games are the future!
Cosmic type is better than these two types because Pokemon that came from space are Psychic Pokemons which is absurd since being a Psychic doesn't always equate to being in the Cosmos. It's not like asteroids are inherently connected to being psychic...
@@monelmonelmonel Exactly, similar things apply to Pokémon such as Deoxys or Solrock and Lunatone whose otherworldly character is meant to be taken more literally rather than something transcendental which I interpret is the main niche of either the Psychic or Fairy Type. Why exactly Solgaleo or Lunala are part Psychic, for example, will elude me.
I also thought of a type of my own like this - the Spatial type.
I think it’s kinda neat but I feel like it’s too similar to Psychic
@@BeanKally The point is to remove that aspect of the Psychic type to limit it to more explicitly paranormal things, be it Telekinesis or other things while a hypothetical Cosmic type would be way more explicitly concerned with extraterrestrial matters.
words can't express how much i love these type videos
@@elt_rex1974 understandable.
As your videos continues, I am more and more hyped about your game
What about a Soul type to replace Ghost? Or maybe it could be in-between Ghost and Fairy so you could also replace Fairy with something else? Idk just an idea I've had a little while ago because I felt that Ghost and Dark were really similar to each other when it came to their general design vibes, so "Soul" felt like a good enough alternative to separate it further from Dark and allow for more variety in designs too.
soul type being a replacement for fairy as well as ghost would make room for light type to feel like its actually unique, which would be pretty cool
This isn’t even pokemon anymore so it could work
If it's a STEM-focused region, Ghost or Soul could represent the supernatural, or just things that aren't explained.
@average rhombic dodecahedron loomian legacy
@@yusheitslv100 That would be a cool way to justify it! :D
Here are my personal reasons for why Light and Sound types don't really need to be added. I should note that I'm not against the ideas or hate people who just wanna see them btw.
Light: I feel like both aspects have already been covered. For the "purity" and "heroism", it's already done by the Fairy type. Pure kindness and good will is already their motto and before someone tries to correct me again, I KNOW. Actual fairies are horrible tricksters. I mean that 90% of Fairy type POKEMON are meant to be good little balls of kindness or are kind by nature e.g Gardevoir, the entire Cleffa line, etc (sorry, I've just had a lot of people telling me over and over again that they're evil. Never rudely, thankfully, but it is annoying when it happens over and over again). And yes, I know it is also the "magic" type, but Psychic and Dragon also already do magic so we aren't talking about that side. As for literal light, Electric type kinda already covers the scientific side through goofy cartoon electricity being incredibly bright and some Electric Pokemon being based on light sources e.g the Chinchou line.
Sound: making noise is something most living and non-living things do on the daily. It's extremely... well, normal. Scraping something makes noise, animals make noise to threaten or attract, etc. If a drop of water hitting a puddle makes noise, so can literal God himself aka Arceus. Plus, there are already "sound-based moves".
I simply don't feel like these types can work since their concepts have already been gone over by other existing types. But just like everyone, I do wish they existed.
fairy isn’t the “good” type, look at impadimp. historically, there are a LOT more stories about fae creatures causing harm either maliciously or unintentionally then there are stories about fairies being purely benevolent
@@sas.tronaut5055 I know. I mean more in Pokemon. The only truely "evil" Fairy Pokemon (that I can think of off the top of my head) are Mimikyu, the Hattenna line, the Impadimp line, and some of the Paradox Pokemon.
I'm fully aware that in actual tales, Fae are mostly tricksters or just horrible monsters rather than cute little helpers. I meant more of Pokemon like Gardevoir. Retyped into Psychic/Fairy and all about being good and loyal. Most of the Pokemon that are or were eventually give the Fairy type have something to do with kindness and/or light energy is what I meant.
Heck, I'm British, we basically invented the lil guys.
Makes sense in light’s case, since I feel most things related to it could easily be covered by fairy or electric, but I think there’s an argument to be made for the sound type. It’s a much broader concept than people give it credit for.
Sure, it could simply just involve something that makes loud noises, but it could also refer to singing, musical instruments, percussion, echolocation, and even vibrations in the ground. Most light types I see could fairly easily be shuffled into another type and it would make just as much sense, but when it comes to, say, a Pokémon based off of sheet music, while you could maybe just shove it into the normal type or maybe psychic type, it would definitely fit a sound type much more. Not to mention, a type dedicated to such an interesting and broad subject opens the floodgates for a ton of cool fakemon concepts.
Anyway though, that’s just my opinion. The other type I like to use in fakemon creation is the food type, since, in a similar vein to sound, it’s a way broader subject than people give it credit for, not only is it the most fitting type for some goofy fakemon based off dishes, it could also apply to wider subjects like protein and the many sources of it, or the chemicals that provide sustenance to creatures on the deep ocean floor. Heck, it could even refer to sunlight since plants use it to sustain themselves!
@@scootermcpeanuts6699 those are some fair points. I also want a food type now.
You do have a point.
However, I do want to say that if we try to design mons based on concepts of light without a light type, we will have to make them look inherently electric or fairy and that can interfere with what we're trying to do. Sure, Chinchou shows that it is possible but there's not a lot of Pokemon that put a focus on light. For this project however, I can imagine that we're going to have a lot of designs with a heavy focus on light so here, I think it's justified. Plus, a light type can be used to demonstrate ways of bending, reflecting, and filtering light instead of just ways of emitting light.
For sound though, I don't see much of a reason to make it its own type instead of making it an attribute of normal type. I can't imagine a lot of concepts that can be turned into mons unless we start going into like, music theory.
Doppler Effect: The higher the opponent’s speed is in comparison to the user’s, the slower their sound based moves will go, and vice versa
Affects both the user and the opponenent
I love you, you made me understand physics in 5 mins in a different language, than my teacher did in class❤
absolutely in love with Blipup, amazing design ❤
I am really excited for the prototype.
Blipup is amazing. It would look great in 3d. And thank u for finally explaining the doppler effect in a way i can understand with the visual.
All we need to know about sound type is **SINGING DOG**
reference to thing i forgot the name of
So a husky?
The jello apocolapse video?
I really feel like the light type should have been added a long time ago, given that ghost and dark exist, fairy and light balance those out pretty well together. Cosmic type is also an interesting idea i've seen mentioned. These two seem way more appropriate for pokémon than a sound type imo
I made a custom pokemon type, which is light. Its super effective on dark, but also weak to this type at the same type. I know im for sure not the first person who made its own light type, but i just wanted do tell
I have 7 types I came up with weaknesses and resistances for that aren't just copy and paste from other media. I have 9 new types total, but 2 of them are Unknown (??? - Shadow Pokémon) and Nuclear (Pokémon Uranium). My other 7 are:
Light - Pokémon that encompass both being righteous and virtuous, and angelic, but also literal shining light.
Sound - Pokémon that utilize and harness sound waves. Also, heavily music/dance inspired.
Cosmic - Space Pokémon or Pokémon that utilize the moon, sun and stars to get stronger.
Cyber - Virtual Pokémon, or Pokémon that embody the idea of computer viruses and spyware/malware.
Wind - NOT Flying type. These are Pokémon that manipulate the air around them for various purposes, such as sharp wind blades, letting them float, or harden the air under their feet to create platforms of air.
Rubber - Pokémon either made of Rubber or that have extremely elastic/stretchy bodies, or simply a part of their anatomy that is stretchy/nimble/flexible.
Blood (or Hemo. Still unsure about the name) - Pokémon that not only manipulate the blood of themselves and others, but also can cause bleeding (a new status condition) and even manipulate the cells and antibodies of others, essentially making them sick. Needles and other laboratory equipment is a common theme here, too.
Here is half an idea for an ability. "Scene Chains" -The more attacks done during a battle, the more it changes closer to Trace based on your speed. The more non-attacks done during a battle, the more it changes closer to Intimidate based on your speed. The rest is a sequence of 5 abilities in between. This ability that matches other abilities is based on the Doppler Effect with a bit of that Prowler meme mixed in. Feel free to use it as a debug Ability. Thoughts?
I think the biggest issue with "the light type" is that a lot of types already fill the role light types would
Fairy, fighting, electric. A lot of types already represent light or being the heroic balance against the dark
As for a sound type...
I can kinda see it. Considering theres a large pool of moves based off attack, there are 2 abilities in the game that deal with "sound-based moves", and there are even sound based mons like the wismur line, chatot, and noivern. I can see sound being a type
The only issue is adding another type that doesnt off-set the chart already. Fairy was a good addition because it gave dragon another type to be weak to, gave dark a counter-balance, and made fighting types deal with a new weakness. It worked for fairy to be added.
So my only issue would be adding another type without adding more pressure to the type chart. Cuz I think after fairy, it will be a lot harder to make a new type that doesnt affect the type balance all too much
Other than my complaints (more of concerns about new types post-fairy) I think its the only fan-made type that coupd theoretically work and make sense in tur context of pokemon
The problem with Sound type in general is that its already also fullfilling a certain niche that is covered by the other types, as its essentially a Sub-type in the game already. Another issue is that in terms of moves, the only moves that make sense for convertion into the Sound type, are the likes of Echoed Voice/Hyper voice and so on, but that becomes a problematic matter on its own when we consider Drampa is a Normal/Dragon type that doesn't make sense to become Sound type, losing its Normal type STAB for Hyper/Echoed Voice, making its Normal typing bascially useless, so it also should become Sound/Dragon, while that makes no sense for example.
I can’t wait to see your creation more!
Who else first heard of the Doppler effect in that one episode of Malcolm In The Middle?
In any case, it's certainly exciting to hear the headway you're making, I haven't been doing much gaming in a while, but it'd be pretty neat to see your Stema game come into fruition! Neat video!
Maybe odd idea, but you could have types that are exclusively only to moves. So like Sound could be a type and have strengths and weaknesses but without an associate creature.
Might not make any sense but I could see it having some game balance potential?
interesting
I posted a main comment but I'll post this in reply as well:
I don't believe Sound should be a type at all. I think it should be part of a codified sub-categories called Sensory Effects and consist of 3 main groups: Sound, Scent and Sight. Moves like Sweet Scent and Odor Sleuth would be placed in the Scent group. Moves like Flash would be placed in the Sight category and for Pokemon that don't rely on Sight, like Zubat, would be unaffected by Sight-based debuff effects but also sensitive to Sound-based damaging moves.
Coromon does that, and it works well there. But in Pokemon, these moves would have to be more powerful than normal because, by design, they wouldn't get any STAB.
Just an idea, you could call them Monstems but that might be a bit too simple
Bad idea because Monster Energy will sue anyone who even remotely makes use of the word "monster".
@@Mad-Goose yeah they're also completely losing that lawsuit entirely
I would love a light or sound type, very cool!
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"I highly doubt it"
*shows Terapagos*
Funny how that aged
I feel like the sound type absolutely has a place in a STEM based game. There's just too many fun facts about sound waves, waveforms and whatnot.
I can see it coming, I got a real bad feeling the ghost type is going to get removed
I think he could do designs based on the dead in science, like a cicada shell pokemon or maybe like references to abioitic things.
@@ewwitscullen9132maybe the cicada shell should have an ability that make it only be able to be hit by super effective moves
Pokemon when they add the Stellar type:
I’ve always liked the idea of a fungus type. Mushrooms in the Pokémon universe are always portrayed as grass and poison type, yet mushrooms themselves aren’t actually plants, and not all fungi are necessarily poisonous. Besides, a fungus type opens for a lot of new Pokémon designs, as it isn’t limited to *just* mushrooms. Someone could make a Pokémon based off that one fungus that controls ant corpses, who knows!
There's a pokemon based on that fungus, and it controls alive ants not exactly dead ones (they do later die)..it's paras and parasect! Most Fungi are mushrooms..that's kinda the problem, it limits is a bit, I think the only Fungi that isn't a mushroom is molds (and yeast I think)? So a fungus type would only really have 2 options to base pokemon on: mushrooms or molds..unlike grass type as a whole which includes anything plant based and fungi as they look similar to plants (and making a unique typing JUST for fungi would be..boring? It wouldn't be as broad as the other typings)
@@testerwulf3357 Oh yeah, I kind of forgot about paras and parasect while making that comment lol. I mean even if there aren’t many type of fungi, I still feel that with the large variety of mushrooms, there could be a lot of unique ideas. But that’s just how I feel, you do bring up a good point.
The Morelull line is also a mushroom Pokémon but it is Grass/Fairy, but it is very easy to forget since it is not advertised with any Alolan game, is not special in Galar, and is absent in Paldea. It also almost never does well in competitive.
Most mushroom mons arent poisonous, paras and parasect are parasite that affect cicadas, shoomish and breloom a dinosaur tbat has a symbiotic relationship with fungi, fungus and amoongus are the only poisonous shrooms,morellull is fairy type and biolluminescent and toedscool and its evo are edible mushrooms
Actually, most of the mushroom Pokémon aren’t poison type. They are all grass type, but they’ve had different other types - bug (paras), fighting (breloom), poison (amoonguss), fairy (morelull) and ground (toedscruel)
I hope you make an Ice/Poison type creature (or whatever your equivalent is)!
Ok, the instant i saw Blipup it instantly became my favorite, the silhouette caught my eye much earlier in the sieries and i was not disappointed.
The thing about the Types is that "Dark" is a mistranslation. It is supposed to mean "evil"
A Dark move is cheap, underhanded, dirty, and powerful.
Dragon, meanwhile, is the true Dark type with Fairy being its opposing Light type.
I just vinge watched your whole channel, I need more T-T
discovered you an hour ago and have gotta say i am hyped about this, very thankful for rng-esus for giving me your content!!
Wow! nice job n0Rtist! I have some ideas, so make sure to Read all of this!
1. Carnot cycle Pokemon. A possible Carnot cycle Pokemon could be named Carnomoo, which would be a Steel-type Pokemon. It would have a body structure that resembles a mechanical engine, with rotating gears and pistons visible as part of its design.
Carnomoo's ability would be called "Efficiency Mastery," which would allow it to maximize the use of heat and energy in battle. This means it can absorb heat from the environment or from its opponent's attacks and convert it into mechanical energy to boost its strength and speed.
In terms of moves, Carnomoo would have access to various attacks that represent different stages of the Carnot cycle, including Heat Absorption, Adiabatic Compression, Isothermal Expansion, and Adiabatic Expansion. These moves would allow Carnomoo to manipulate temperature and pressure to gain an upper hand in battle.
Overall, Carnomoo would be a formidable opponent due to its efficiency in energy conversion and its unique ability to manipulate heat and energy for its own advantage.
2. A possible Higgs boson Pokemon could be named Bosopod, which would be an Electric/Water-type Pokemon. It would have a body design similar to a Isopod with a nucleus at its center surrounded by orbiting electrons.
Bosopod's ability would be called "Particle Master," which would allow it to manipulate subatomic particles to create electric and water-based attacks. This means it can change the charge of particles in the air or water to create powerful electric currents or manipulate the cohesive forces between water molecules to create powerful waves.
In terms of moves, Bosopod would have access to various attacks that represent different interactions and properties of the Higgs boson particle, including Gravitational Charge, Weak Nuclear Force, and Strong Nuclear Force. These moves would allow Bosopod to manipulate fundamental forces and interactions to gain an upper hand in battle.
Overall, Bosopod would be a versatile and powerful opponent due to its unique ability to manipulate subatomic particles and fundamental forces to create devastating attacks.
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Main reasons not to add Light or Sound to Pokemon proper is just redundancy issues and balancing issues (so many types exist already, most of their effects already exist under other types just fine). When making a new project, there's a lot more room to not include highly Pokemon-specific stuff like Bug, Dragon, Fairy, and Dark typings.
Sound should be placed in a sub-category called Sensory Effects along with moves that primarily effect Sight and Scent.
Farie has been turned into a charisma type, i like it!
I wonder if a Water/Normal mon based on sound being a *wave* would be interesting or just too straightforward.
It would be both and both is good :)
I think light would be cool to see it react with the dark type
A star cycle pokemon might be interesting. Like the base pokemon has two forms and each evolve into different pokemon for different stages of life
i llearn more on this channel than in school.
Well! I think you helped me figure out the type for my Pokemon Loveletter game!
For context, im creating a dual-type system where every pokemon has two types - what they are, and what they do. Which means a Rock-Fire type would be different from a Fire-Rock type (the first one is made out lf rock and breathes fire, the second one is made of fire and throws/manipulates rocks). For STAB effects, your resistance is 75% of your fitst types resistance and 25% of your 2nd types resistance, so a plant type attack would deal about 1.625x damage to the first creature (Rock-Fire) and 0.875 to the second creature (Fire-Rock).
Anyways, because each type can be bkth what it is and what it does, i eas struggling with yhe relationship between controlling air/wind, bird attacks, being a cloud, and kf ibwpuld include sound, etc. But i think I might define it as a Wave type, encompassing both soundwaves and airwaves
An interesting way to combine the two would be a "wave" type, widening the options beyond light and sound.
I was never huge on the Light type idea, since in my mind, I saw Fairy as filling that role of bright and colourful stuff, as well as general positivity. Sound, on the other hand, I was way more of a fan of, because it isn’t really covered in any other type properly: the best we have for it is normal (since normal is the baseline for anything not covered imo), flying (both are connected to air), and psychic (something about the sound and mind being connected). It was never properly covered, and I think it could be cool if it were.
Ah yes the long and complicated version of saying "No", my favorite type.
Man I really love this videos
personally I feel like it is too late to add a new type to pokemon especially something like sound which has been covered in other pokemon. Sure chatot and exploud could just have their normal type removed but then what about noivern, it perfectly fits the type but which of its two types do you remove to add it? it doesn't make sense for it to not be a flying type but it'd also feel wrong for it not to be a dragon. What about oricori? it's a bird so it should be flying but it still fits the sound type well and you can't change its other type because that's the entire gimic
combine both concepts and create a wave type; wave types can control oscillations of particles allowing for sound attacks on sound creatures, lights lasers and radiation on light creatures, and cool stuff like earthquakes and attacking despite defensive moves
A few days ago i thought about "if i would make a new type in the game, i would bring light type"
Am happy im not the only one w that idea
I allowed to create them as a new pokomon type so THANK you
We definitely need a sound type/music type
You taught me more than literal college did
I made my type matchup for sound
Super affective against
Fairy (because balencing sakes)
Ice (like shattering glass with your voice)
Psychic (voice annoys mind)
Weak to
Wa'er (blaiahagaugauaug)
.... Don't know why I never made something that resists it or it resists but I made bug immune to it… cuz bugs are deaf
I made a boombox line
Sinbox (one boombox and SING!!! Ah ah?)
Bibox
And then a split
With the fire stone it's
Desiboom! (It shoots exploding disco balls and it has a cool rock design(it's fire sound and it's a special attacker))
And with a… leveling up while knowing a dark move
Deseivil (dark sound..... Uhh it's name is desible deseive and evil... It's a physical attacker...)
Ice doesn't need another weakness though.
By the end of the year????
I thought it was gonna take longer
Let's gooo
Fairy = Light
Normal = Sound (some attacks)
You already have it. Fairy was added to balance Dragon, that's why. As far as we feel in the meta, there's no reason to add any other new types.
How about an Astro type? I mean there is quite a lot of different possibilities to do space.
I am very excited for when this becomes a game hopefully
Oh i already coded these (by grabbing them around the internet)
Sound is just "better normal" and light is literally the opposite of dark (and theyre supereffective against each other~)
Personally i believe sound type is already covered by the normal type(most sound-based pokemon are normal type and it has most sound-based moves) and the fairy type
The fairies and the fae are usually associated with song and music such as sirens, merfolk, selkies and fairies in general, like the sea maiden of beloxi or satyrs, which is why i think they take over the sound typing
The normal type uses MOST of the sound-based moves and sound is everywhere and its NORMAL, so its placement in the normal type is pretty reasonable
i honestly hope your game plays pretty differently from pokemon, so it feels even more unique
One banger after another. And
I cant even finish a drawing
I personally think that Sound is very possible as a type to be added eventually, while Light isn’t.
Sound is very similar to the situation of Fairy. Lots of Pokémon already fit into it (which all just use Normal right now), and it is distinct as a theme/element. We even already have sound-based moves which could all be made into Sound type. Soundproof as ability could provide a Sound immunity (like Levitate does against Ground moves). It’s also been requested and theorised for so long now. It’s kind of a perfect type to be added because of all these things.
Meanwhile, Light already fits into the Fairy type. Light could mean nice, kind, heroic, and healing, which all fit with Fairy’s “nice” theme. And even the idea of Light as in brightness is kind of already done within Fire and Electric.
Another type I could see possibly being added is some kind of Digital type. Again, we have some Pokémon that kind of fit into this and are just Normal now (Porygon line specifically). It’s also relatively distinct (no other type covers its theme). But the case for this isn’t as strong as Sound.
Some people talk about ‘Cosmic’ type but that’s already part of Psychic imo.
The Problem is that Sound in itself is already covered with other types.
We have the likes of Bug Buzz and Grass Whistle as Sound type moves, but they also have a move in the name. The same goes for the newly introduced Psychic Noise. Those are as such never gonna be converted into the Sound type.
Then we also have the likes of Sparkling Aria (Water), Torch Song (Fire), Overdrive (Electric), which are never gonna be converted into the Sound type, since the Pokemon using them, despite being sound based Pokemon, are never gonna be converted into the Sound type, since 2 of them are starters (Primarina and Skeledirge) and the other one is Toxtricity (Which literally means Toxic Electricity).
Kommo-o is another Sound-Based Pokemon that is never gonna get a type change, since its a Psuedo legendary + design wise, it makes no sense to change it either. It also has 2 Sound based moves with Clangorous Soul and Clanging Scales, as well as an exclusive Z-Move.
There is literally no point in changing the non-damaging Normal type Sound based moves into Sound type, since they don't give STAB anyways. So that only leaves Boomburst, Echoed Voice, Round and Hyper Voice for convertion into the Sound type, which in turn ruins a Pokemon like Meloetta (Who by proxy of being a mythical also doesn't get the type change) or Oranguru, who doesn't make sense to be converted into the Sound type, but can use the Normal type Sound based moves, meaning the only Normal type special move it has if the sound based moves get converted, is Hyper Beam, basically rendering Oranguru absolete.
Even then, the Sound-Based Pokemon that can be converted and to make sense, aren't a lot either. Like, we have the Whismur line, Chingling line, Chatot, Bronzor line and Noibat line, but thats it.
Other Sound based Pokemon either already got a type change (Jigglypuff/Clefairy/Azurill lines), have a gimmick (Audino/Lapras), are starters (Primarina, Rillaboom, Skeledirge), is a psuedo (Kommo-o), Sound would literally mess up the localization name (Toxtricity), is a mythical (Meloetta), which as such aren't getting a type change.
One of the things I really like about light type is that it can interact with bug type.
Yep in my light type theory, if you have a light type pokemon as the head of your party you would encounter bug types more often
Didn't he remove Bug already
I dunno, I think the bugs have had it rough enough already and don't need to also have to worry about falling to the temptation of the L A M P.
I have had an idea for a chaos type for a bit now. I think an entropy type might fit with your world. That one monkey mon you made would match it quite well, at least the first evolution. It could also act as a cosmic type, because space just kinda seems chaotic? There’s a better explanation somewhere, I just don’t have the words for it.
Then agin, this IS the kind of type that works best with a world built around it, and probably won’t work that well when inserted into a pre-existing world that doesn’t already have a theme of chance, chaos, and/or space in it.
i like to think that this game is an alternite universe
Honestly, I'm curious to see if a Magic Type would actually work.
My main problem with Magic type is that I don't see how it's different from Psychic and Fairy.
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Me gesturing at normal type: THERE. THERE IS YOUR SOUND TYPE.
Idea for the names:
Sound: echo
Light: lumo
I'd love a Light type. It would solve all the Psychic type issues. Plus I feel that the Fairy type should've been a counter to Dragon only and not Dark. So a Light type would help both cases.
I feel like a “fungi” type would work pretty well in the franchise and possibly be a good addition if done right, sure it would be similar to grass, (not to mention grass already kind of takes the place of fungus) but it could be different enough to work. A couple Pokémon and moves off the top of my head that I can think of are obviously, Parasect, Breloom, and Foongus. Moves such as, spore and sleep powder could all fit into the fungus category. Fungus, like cordyceps often take other animals as hosts (such as insects) so, it is safe to say a fungus type would be strong against Pokémon with the bug typing. Fungus also decomposes many organisms after death; this would possibly make the type strong against ghost types and maybe even dark types. Mushrooms are often considered as good luck and are associated with fairytales meaning the type would most likely resist or not have any effect on fairy types, aswell as fairy types not having an effect on mushrooms. Many fungi prefer dark, sometimes damp, humid areas to grow in, so the water and dark types could be thought of as being taken advantage of by fungi meaning a fungus type would be strong against those two typings along with bug and ghost. As for its weaknesses, it would likely be similar to grass and bug, being weak to fire, flying, rock, and ice type moves. It would probably resist poison because many fungi are in fact poisonous when eaten, and maybe resist psychic because mushrooms are often associated with having psychedelic properties, some mushrooms even being intoxicating and leading to hallucinations. That’s all I could think of off the top of my head, but feel free to correct me on somethings if I got them wrong.
I feel like it still needs to be more different from grass
The reason I support sound type is DUE to how well intergrated it already is as a move subtype. It has a "gimmick" like other types: it ignores subsitution like how fire types can't be e burned. It has abilities the buff it, and abilities that ignore it, it was a decent amount of mons designed after it, ect.
And that it should stay, a subtype. We literally don't need the Sound type in the game, since we already have it and a permanent Sound type wouldn't add anything to the type chart.
nice concept once more
what if you have a sound-type pokemon that's not literally about sound? like a water-type that's about waves that MAYBE you could interperit as sound? or a light-sensitive pokemon that can pick up waves and other kinds of signals like sound
Just a few days ago I decided to replay Pokémon Xenoverse, which has the Sound type, perfect timing
Edit: 7:22 There it is
taking the whole franchise into account, it's very surprising to me that cosmic and sound types weren't added already, fits so many mons, moves and lore
Cosmic is literally already coverted by Psychic and Fairy and a less extent the Rock typing, so Cosmic is redundant.
Sound is in the game. Not only is it called Normal type, its also a subcategory of moves.
@nickdentoom1173 don't think so, especially bc cosmic it's also in the game already, not to mention all the pokemon that comes from outer space, cosmic cover the mysticism, unknown and beyond way better than psychic, which it's just mental tricks and some magic, and well fairy it's just light
a great typing for legends just as much as fairy and dragon imo
Actually in my Fakemon region AMA adding 3 new ones so hope everybody can keep track Sound, Cosmic, and Light
Thank you for the video.
This is a very good idea
Finally, someone who understands that dragon isn't a type its a body form
Even though for a while I think Sound type would be cool to have in Pokémon, I think I know why we don’t have it. First, it feels a lot like both Psychic or Normal type (mainly Normal Type). Second, adding a new type means changing how a bunch of types work against each other. Light type it’s probably just them being to lazy to want to add it, and also the previous reason #2.
I wanted to make a branch evolution for Charcadet based on soundwaves, like, have you seen sound be used actively as an attack? Or the potency some sounds have to, maybe not be fatal but can cause permanent damage, soundwaves that can only be heard by animals, so much potential
for me personally sound type are more of a theme in typing like we have moves like Beams, Slashes, Bites Punches, while Light is opposite all types are from light, basicly Necrozma shows it hy light refraction, from white light to other spectres etc. in this case other types
in another one of your earlier videos on types I mentioned my own type called the “radiation” type and I think now is no better time to mention it again. Rather than being limited to light, a radiation type could pull from the full electromagnetic spectrum and even have a little cosmic inspiration due to how much radiation is flung about in space. I also think it fits the theme of the game quite well too, being science and all that.
I stan light type literally only because theres already a dark typing. How can dark exist without light
I have not seen the video, but I will give my opinion about it, As for the Sound type, I think that the only thing they want is that the movements referred to that are covered. Certainly, I don't see any potential for that hypothetical elemental type, I mean, they will only be musical instruments and ultrasound, I can't think of anything else. As for the light type, I think that fairy and fight would already be left with the "good" thing. And Electric in terms of the physical. Personally, I would add a Technological type, let me explain why, technology is not just robots, it is everything that human beings create at their convenience. I mean, even a spoon is technology, and, thinking about it, this has a lot of potential, not only robots and mecha, they could also add pokemon that use objects or their environment to their advantage, it would also cover things like civilizations and aliens, but even more, It could cover pokemon based on art and others that have to do with humanity, that being said, it could be seen that this hypothetical type would be very varied, being able to cover everything from Blastoise and Rotom to Smeargle and Yamask, obviously they would not use this last type of pokemon missiles or anything, but their movements could have the "Technological" type.
air type also deserves a chance
Please add some new types like the chemical type
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Perhaps you can combine light and sound into a "wave"' type that deals with many things that come in waves and rays like light, sound, and radio to name a few. It could be used to make interesting type combos with water waves and heat waves too.