Discovering the Erebus: Mysteries of the Franklin Voyage Revealed - The Best Documentary Ever

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  • @adamfrazer5150
    @adamfrazer5150 6 років тому +57

    I imagine I will not be the first to digest this lecture, not only due to a long fascination with the Franklin expedition, but also due to recently devouring 'The Terror' (dramatised but an absolutely top-shelf series)

    • @2serveand2protect
      @2serveand2protect 5 років тому +9

      True. VERY well done - top actors and brilliant performance from all of them.

    • @UAPReportingCenter
      @UAPReportingCenter 2 роки тому

      Same.. Also an excellent show!

  • @paulpopescu2757
    @paulpopescu2757 8 місяців тому +2

    When I was little kid, I read "The Adventures of Captain Hatteras" by Jules Verne, and in that book Franklin is mentioned 138 times. The book was published in 1866, and at that time little was known about lead poisoning. It amazes me that people are not aware also about the role of lead poisoning in the fall of Roman Empire..

  • @michelvandyck8589
    @michelvandyck8589 2 роки тому +1

    I just saw the documentary about the Franklin expedition yesterday and I was so intrigued that I wanted to know more about it. This is so much fun. Research at it's best. Mumbling guys being proud. Great job. Thanks, from Belgium, a long way from Canada, but close to the heart, always gratefully and sincerely yours. La Belgique. Arctic explorers since the very beginning. And in loving memory of all the Canadians who died to save my little country from tiranny.

    • @rabidbigdog
      @rabidbigdog 2 роки тому

      This is a great comment Michel, thank you. Researchers are not necessarily public speakers, but I really embraced their fascination and success.

  • @elenafalconsseedlaboratory403
    @elenafalconsseedlaboratory403 3 роки тому +10

    This is a good use of time, but know what it is and isn't. This is an academic style lecture, from folks that are good lecturers, but not necessarily intriguing speakers. Very interesting information shared, but at times it seems the speakers struggle to tell the story. And that's essentially it, they are presenting information but they aren't telling a story, because they just aren't great story tellers as presenters! They do talk about how many partners it took to find the ship, but I really appreciate that because the scope of this effort was ENORMOUS and spanned over decades! We should, as learners, be subjected to the scope of what it takes to perform the marvelous feats of Arctic/Underwater Archeology, and to find such a sunken ship. Lastly, there is no mystery in the fact that the Inuit Peoples were infinitely better at surviving, understanding and living in Arctic conditions. They were experts. This is not pandering, it just facts. To say it is simply being factually sound - Inuit folks lived for decades in this area while these British explorers died. White British folks weren't the experts at the Arctic, they had courage, even if it was ill founded and got them all killed. That's also a fact of this story. But without that exploration, this sense of courage, over confidence, grit, will, vision and bravado, the considerable and deadly miscalculation, we all wouldn't be here today, listening to this great and harrowing tale and learning from its fate. How fortunate are we that in our lifetime, the Erebus was found, and we get to hear about it via this lecture on the internet, for free. Thank you Canada!

  • @jimlehman5433
    @jimlehman5433 5 років тому +36

    Good lord how can you take a fascinating subject, and turn it in to snorefest.

    • @stevenedwards4470
      @stevenedwards4470 5 років тому +5

      My exact thought. This was excruciatingly boring. I think they needed to justify expenditure to a group of unseen entities or something.

    • @sksksksl
      @sksksksl 3 роки тому +4

      The lecture consisted of: "Here are the people who paid for it, here are a few pictures, thanks for coming." This was beyond excruciating.

    • @johnnycash1365
      @johnnycash1365 3 роки тому +1

      @@sksksksl that's all I need to know!

    • @Vercingetorix.Rising
      @Vercingetorix.Rising 3 роки тому +2

      This was fine, have some patients. Maybe you need to love the topic, but I thoroughly enjoyed it

    • @EvanONS1
      @EvanONS1 3 роки тому

      That's called academia buddy

  • @thunderboltmag4226
    @thunderboltmag4226 3 роки тому +4

    Does anyone know why the Erebus was located 50 km south in shallow waters from the terror? Did it sail there with the crew still alive? Did it drift there abandoned by the current ? A question that keeps going through my mind as I thought they should of been frozen in the ice till at least 1850 with the weather reports.

  • @WhitneyDahlin
    @WhitneyDahlin 5 років тому +24

    OMG stop thanking each other all the time! Do that sh*t at the end of the lecture. We don't want to hear five minutes of them patting each other on the back. We're hear for the actual facts about the expedition.

    • @protendi
      @protendi 3 роки тому +1

      I mean, they are Canadian, I’m surprised they aren’t apologising to each other all the time instead!

    • @zipperpillow
      @zipperpillow Рік тому

      So cringey...like watching your dad in a circle-jerk.

    • @fairlyvague82
      @fairlyvague82 7 місяців тому

      @@protendi😂 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

    • @protendi
      @protendi 7 місяців тому

      @fairlyvague82 completely forgot about this post! Glad I made you laugh! Have a good'un!

  • @RobbyHouseIV
    @RobbyHouseIV 6 років тому +7

    I guess when this gathering was filmed the discovery was still pretty new and thus not a lot of information about the events and experiences of the crew has been gleaned yet?

    • @aplicqu8761
      @aplicqu8761 6 років тому +5

      There is no compendium of events or experiences of the crew, except that one piece of paper found. No diaries, ships' logs or anything has been found written by a competent officer or even a common literate seaman. So everything, except Inuit tales, passed down by long dead ancestors, of seeing the men, exists. It's all guesstimates. It will forever be a third person supposition. It is a frustrating tale no one lived to tell, unlike Amundsen, Perry, Scott, Shackleton and others, 60 years later, with no photo record. WIthout a human source, only the archaeological finds give us a glimmer of facts, like the bones after a meal, but nothing of the soft details that flesh out a story.

    • @vooteimer1234
      @vooteimer1234 6 років тому

      A Plicqu You think its a coincidence that the Terror was found in Terror Bay?

    • @aplicqu8761
      @aplicqu8761 6 років тому +3

      @@vooteimer1234 I'm guessing the bay was named for the lost ship/expedition. The search for them started in 1848. There was knowledge of where they were before they were frozen in the ice and sunk.

    • @vooteimer1234
      @vooteimer1234 6 років тому

      A Plicqu yeah thats the official line

    • @johnthemachine
      @johnthemachine 4 роки тому

      @@vooteimer1234 Read a book. It was a coincidence.

  • @aszthrotep4632
    @aszthrotep4632 3 роки тому +4

    inuits said time and time again where it was, but people ignored it until they couldnt anymore,.

    • @rabidbigdog
      @rabidbigdog 2 роки тому +3

      The whole discovery story is a wonderful example of the disrespect of local/verbal history.

    • @aszthrotep4632
      @aszthrotep4632 2 роки тому

      @@rabidbigdog there is little argue against when you say english people are pompous and arrogant.

  •  4 роки тому

    Great video, but they don't half drone on... they've found the HMS Terror and Erebus...That's cool.

  • @georgewaite2952
    @georgewaite2952 4 роки тому +2

    This is about the Franklin Expedition.It went horribly.This Expedition was to search for a Northwest Passage.Lead Poisoning and Scurvy led to their demise.Along with the harsh winters added to their demise.The ships were stuck in the ice and they left the ships to head South Along the west Part of King William Island.They were heading to the Back River.Along the route,The crew of these ships walked along the way with provisions and sledging boats across the ice.The men were exhausted and tired.From not eating properly, and not being able to think properly, from lead poisoning and scurvy effects,the men fell and died on the route.It is a tragic story.HMS TERROR and HMS EREBUS have both been located.The investigation continues. Being exposed to cold weather and the elements is very hard to say the least.

    • @zipperpillow
      @zipperpillow Рік тому

      Wrong. They had no plan "B", no escape plan. They could have sailed west with the long boats. It was their only realistic option. They starved to death out of arrogant stupidity. The Inuit raise babies in the same environment. Hubris is a self-inflicted wound.

  • @charlestorruella8591
    @charlestorruella8591 3 роки тому +1

    It said best documentaries ever but it's not a doc it's not even a lecture more like someone showing a slide show form a vacation

  • @stevewight947
    @stevewight947 5 років тому +13

    This should help you see why it takes so long to accomplish anything when governments are involved.

    • @rabidbigdog
      @rabidbigdog 2 роки тому

      You know private hires were repeatedly made to find the ships and the people, but there was no profit to be had in that .....

  • @flappylaps8166
    @flappylaps8166 3 роки тому +2

    The Best Documentary Ever? ....Are you high??

  • @fairlyvague82
    @fairlyvague82 7 місяців тому

    Very interesting. Obviously lots updated since this lecture. Unfortunately boffins don’t make for the best storytellers 😬😊

  • @normanbraslow7902
    @normanbraslow7902 4 роки тому +1

    They found the other ship as well.

  • @jimmyday9536
    @jimmyday9536 3 роки тому +6

    At 6:41 I stopped it. Climate change, LOL. I don't need politics! 🙄🤠

    • @rabidbigdog
      @rabidbigdog 2 роки тому

      Hahaha, is that you Stephen?

  • @TomTremayne
    @TomTremayne Рік тому

    Why don't the Canadians get together with the British, raise those ships (or one of them), restore it & have it as a museum. Imagine the tourism & interest it'd create. Hell, they make crappy feature films costing 60, 80, 100 million dollars but here's a project worth doing and no one can find the funding!! The world's in a bad way!

  • @TMMReznor
    @TMMReznor 5 років тому +25

    "Canadian national identity". You mean those two British ships crewed entirely by British people with not a single Canadian aboard? Okaaay then. I mean it's not like Canada is a beautiful country with a rich enough history of its own or anything.

    • @robprogrammer4549
      @robprogrammer4549 5 років тому +3

      Wolf's Tail at the time there was no Canada though and as part of the empire people born in what today is Canada and British born people were all the same

    • @TMMReznor
      @TMMReznor 5 років тому

      ​@@robprogrammer4549 I get that historically, all of North America was colonized by Europeans but don't really understand why, in the 21st century, anyone would want that to be part of their 'national identity'.

    • @thelarch7294
      @thelarch7294 4 роки тому +2

      Canada wasn't an independent nation until the mid 1800's? The USA discovered their own passage way to the Northwest in the 1700's. It was called The Lewis and Clark Corps of Discovery about which there is a seperate video.

    •  4 роки тому

      What rich history, neither Eskimos or red Indians developed either a numeric or written culture....I don't want to be rude, and no doubt you think I am, but reality is reality :/

    • @1Korlash
      @1Korlash 4 роки тому

      @ They had a very rich oral tradition that let them remember things that happened centuries earlier despite the lack of a written language.
      Case in point, the discovery of Erebus and Terror. They were found not because of our superior and super-smart culture, but because the native Inuit remembered where they sank for over a century and a half until someone finally thought to stop dismissing them and their oral history and try listening to them.
      That's why it took so long to find the ships: Because for over 150 years explorers thought like you're doing.
      Considering they wrote none of that down, preserving precise knowledge like that is extremely impressive. I can't think of many other cultures that could've managed something like that. (Possibly the Zulu, who passed on detailed tactical lessons from their battles that later Zulu multiple generations removed from the events could employ effectively, but they didn't do that over one and a half centuries.)
      Just because a culture didn't write things down doesn't mean their culture was poor or that they have nothing to teach us and we should write them off as inferior. If we did that, Franklin's ships would still be lost.

  • @delboytrotter8806
    @delboytrotter8806 4 роки тому +1

    Make that two ships !

  • @mikbe2579
    @mikbe2579 5 років тому +1

    Je souhaite à nos amis canadiens tout le succès possible dans l'exploration des ressources naturelles encore inexploitées et j'espère qu'ils coopéreront avec la Fédération de Russie dans un esprit de confiance, car nous devons lutter contre l'exploitation impitoyable des ressources naturelles par les États-Unis avec un rempart.

  • @lonnietoth5765
    @lonnietoth5765 3 місяці тому

    What they fail to tell is the Eskimos told them where they were and they did not listen . Had the Eskimos been able to tell Franklin he was going the wrong way , I have no doubt he would have also brushed them off . Why listen to people who lived there all their lives and for generations ? Why listen to someone who was not white . Did Custer listen to his scouts ? His best scout , Bloody Knife , put his death mask on preparing to die , which he did , and he still did not listen . I'm 71 years old and my family laughted at me when I told them we would be paying for water when I was 5 years old !

    • @EAMBW
      @EAMBW 2 місяці тому

      The mission was doomed unfortunately before they even left. It wasn’t not listening to the eskimos. The vitamin c from the lemon juice lost its strength but even worse the canned food was leaking lead into the foods. In addition the canned food much spoiled from improper canning . If the military wouldn’t have picked the lowest cheapest cans possible maybe they wouldn’t have poisoned their own men.

  • @Special_Tactics_Force_Unit
    @Special_Tactics_Force_Unit 4 роки тому +7

    The presenter spends two hours apologizing on behalf of Canada and the Franklin crew for being white explorers. There, I just saved you the trouble of having to watch this ridiculous thing

    • @ultimathule1000
      @ultimathule1000 2 роки тому +3

      and the Eskimo people saw the expedition and they didn't help them. It is even possible, that they attacked them.

    • @rabidbigdog
      @rabidbigdog 2 роки тому

      @@ultimathule1000 Everyone should apologise for not believing the Inuit reports.

  • @yougonasorryschannel3518
    @yougonasorryschannel3518 5 років тому

    Did they find the remains of tuunbaq too??

  • @dmac7406
    @dmac7406 3 роки тому +2

    Finding the boat doesn't add much to the story but where the boat met the exact spot on the bottom of the ocean but they already knew the area other than finding some kind of cool artifacts the story changes little if at all.

    • @zipperpillow
      @zipperpillow Рік тому

      Except that these droll bores get to piggyback on the story for a little spotlight time. Wankers.

  • @pointlessaccount789
    @pointlessaccount789 4 роки тому +1

    FIFTY THREE MINUTES - "This is where we get to see images of the shipwreck, BUT, before we do that I have a story to tell..." zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. Adverts for diet dog food are more interesting.

  • @lasagnajohn
    @lasagnajohn 6 років тому +1

    Was the total cost of the Terror and Erebus expedition more than a manned Mars mission would cost?

    • @garymingy8671
      @garymingy8671 5 років тому

      This expedition had ready cash , special motor ,special hull modifications , they brought books , they had class , knew how to wait out a storm , from the cheap seats , it doesn't look like hasty broke and sophmoric , expeditions , I see well planned well stocked well funded at the starting point.

    • @garymingy8671
      @garymingy8671 5 років тому

      1850s 250,000 for two boats and 100 guys ... the government is big this was cheap , and the Queen really didn't care if it failed , they often sent out explorers in very old dangerous boats .

    • @macrick
      @macrick 4 роки тому

      @@garymingy8671 I watched another doc, it said that they retrofitted both ships with steam engines meant 4 locomotive. Wtf.
      The speed is only 2-3 knots with steam alone.

    • @rabidbigdog
      @rabidbigdog 2 роки тому

      Is there a point to your question?

    • @YoutubeChannel-ol7zx
      @YoutubeChannel-ol7zx Рік тому

      What? No.

  • @bananabrooks3836
    @bananabrooks3836 Рік тому

    There are some ignorant comments on here, if history isn't examined and documented, there's very little history for humans to learn from. Word of mouth, passed down verbally is not a substitute. Neither is it filmed as entertainment for those lacking on thinking effort.

  • @SuiGenerisMan
    @SuiGenerisMan 2 роки тому

    This is a lecture, not a documentary. Best ever video title is more likely to get people to avoid this video, than to click on it. Especially when they discover just how boring this is.

  • @green823jade
    @green823jade 4 роки тому +1

    The Canadians want all the glory.

  • @A_Goat
    @A_Goat 4 роки тому +1

    Yikes, wish I had read the comments earlier.
    Not much of this is actually useful or genuine. It seems more like a advertisement to promote their companies/themselves. I can understand being prideful in your work and all the effort these men have put in however this is just a snooze fest. Title is misleading as it's not really a documentary about the topic but rather a bunch of old guys, repeating everything you already know and stuff you don't want to know, agreeing with eachother for 2 hours. It's just weird.

  • @celtick4985
    @celtick4985 6 років тому

    incredibile storia

  • @gabrieljuniors6405
    @gabrieljuniors6405 4 роки тому

    Pleasee en españoll

  • @rakaman27
    @rakaman27 5 років тому

    Tuunbaq be like: well, I could have told you where it was but you didn't ask.

  • @sproket168
    @sproket168 5 років тому +3

    Skip to 59min first parts just dribble

  • @littletraveller5428
    @littletraveller5428 5 років тому +2

    1845 harsh climate, 2015 climate change.

    • @thelarch7294
      @thelarch7294 4 роки тому

      The Industrial Age brought many changes and not all of them were good.

  • @themightywookie351c3
    @themightywookie351c3 3 роки тому +1

    Take a shot every time someone says CIGI, helps a lot with getting through this video

    • @Jonsson474
      @Jonsson474 2 роки тому

      5 minutes in and I’m already drunk. Goodnight.

  • @ultimathule1000
    @ultimathule1000 2 роки тому +1

    I wonder why there are so many resources spent on such a useless endeavour? What outcome can it be except satisfying the curiosity of the TV mob?
    Could the resources be spent more wisely ?

    • @ultimathule1000
      @ultimathule1000 2 роки тому +1

      By the way: the event looks like a government report on the tax issues for the next fiscal year. I think this show is exaggerated. It is about two old ships lost two centuries ago. Nothing essential to our current lives. Only the curiosity of the public.

    • @rabidbigdog
      @rabidbigdog 2 роки тому

      @@ultimathule1000 Hahaha, wow. I didn't expect to see a "why not spend the money on something important" comment here. You know these are not either-or questions right? There is plenty of money to achieve advancement in almost every area, just that the rent-seeking rich want it all for themselves in tax-havens.

  • @ozzie-sk9dh
    @ozzie-sk9dh Рік тому

    12:24

  • @MiuMiu-dq6xt
    @MiuMiu-dq6xt 5 років тому +6

    Bla bla bla get to the point!!

  • @timothyberens4524
    @timothyberens4524 2 роки тому

    Just can't tell us about the ship without trying to also explain climate change and all that huh?

  • @christianlennon714
    @christianlennon714 3 роки тому +1

    Are you joking, was this a joke I didn't get, one of the greatest British mysteries in history turned into here's how we got some boats, here's how we got some companies let's all bore the hell out of everyone instead of telling folk what they've learned about the actual true story or what really happened, absolutely bloody boring.

  • @isacchris1
    @isacchris1 5 років тому +2

    What a waist of time!

  • @sproket168
    @sproket168 5 років тому +3

    48 minutes in hurry up and say something of interesting.

  • @zipperpillow
    @zipperpillow Рік тому

    Could it have been any more smug or pompous? Or boring? The charisma in the room is around Level Zero. I feel bad for the audience being condescended to. These were the wrong people to present this.

  • @TheOldTeddy
    @TheOldTeddy Рік тому

    Not the 'best'...muddling and long winded. Think a couple speakers broke their arms patting their own backs.

  • @robertmiles1603
    @robertmiles1603 5 років тому +1

    Aside from global warming being nonsensical leftist pseudoscientific fiction, the term logically would be global warming, not "climate change". The climate is always changing, dumbass.

    • @rabidbigdog
      @rabidbigdog 2 роки тому

      Oh dear - did you comment on the wrong video?

  • @DjWesRolan
    @DjWesRolan 2 роки тому

    They died were other people were already living for thousands of years. It’s not like they are in the Antarctica.

    • @rabidbigdog
      @rabidbigdog 2 роки тому

      Is this comment supposed to make any sense?

  • @gabrieljuniors6405
    @gabrieljuniors6405 4 роки тому

    En español xd

  • @lordkarellan7808
    @lordkarellan7808 Рік тому

    This is a lecture. It is NOT a documentary. There’s a difference. While it has some interesting parts, it is quite boring.

  • @MeMe-lx2jw
    @MeMe-lx2jw 2 роки тому +1

    Boring

  • @garymingy8671
    @garymingy8671 5 років тому

    3 hot girls dancing , pass this date in 10 mins . In 3/4 time ...we got the mast !

  • @balla4544
    @balla4544 6 років тому +7

    i closed video when i heard climate change

  • @djomegaminus
    @djomegaminus 3 роки тому

    Franklin was a Democrat.

  • @7316bobe
    @7316bobe 6 років тому +2

    "The Terror". TOTAL RUBBISH FILM.

    • @michaelr3583
      @michaelr3583 6 років тому +1

      What didn't you like?

    • @7316bobe
      @7316bobe 6 років тому +3

      @@michaelr3583 What didn't I like Read every thing that you can about the history of the Franklin Expedition and you will have your answer. This film "The Terror" this piece of steaming crap with its monster polar bear and has nothing at all to do with what happened on the Franklin Expedition to discover the South West passage. It is a disgrace to the memory of so many brave men that perished on the Expedition. This travesty of a film had these brave men dressed as women in a drunken state at an orgy on the shore of King William Island and this is just one indignity forced upon our brave English explorers. The homosexual cutting out his tongue and offering it to the monster polar bear what bullshit. The reason that the expedition failed is because the ships were attacked by the Inuit while they were stuck in the ice. The Inuit blocked the men's escape to the north to Fury Beach where there was food, and so they went south on what was a death march where no one survived. When the men were gone the Inuit stole everything of any value to them from the ships. They then followed up where the crew men went and stole anything of value from the bodies. They even dug up the dead corpses stealing any thing of value from them and then just leaving the bodies laying on the ground. The Inuit are not just cuddly little people in fur coats they were prepared to do what it took to get at the riches onboard the ships. So you see the monsters were the Inuit them selves. To tell the story properly you do not need a monster polar bear as the monsters were already there.

    • @michaelr3583
      @michaelr3583 6 років тому +2

      @@7316bobe did you just spout an unprovable hypothesis and accuse someone you don't even know of knowing nothing? All I asked is what didn't you like? Obviously since no one was there everything including what you said would have just been conjecture. As a fan of history my problem with the series us I didn't think you needed a tuunbaq to make it great.by all accounts the men didn't all die in 1848 like the show said but many survived until 1851 according to the Inuit. The ships we re well armed with royal marines that could have dealt with any Inuits wielding harpoons. The men starved to death and turned on each other, maybe due to lead poisoning making them more aggressive. Keep in mind the Inuit testimony is the only reason we found the ships at all. You sound like the racists from the 19th century that tried to bury mclintocks work.

    • @7316bobe
      @7316bobe 6 років тому +2

      @@michaelr3583 You asked what I did not like and I responded.

    • @michaelr3583
      @michaelr3583 6 років тому +2

      @@7316bobe no, you responded and insulted me just for asking a question.