Hey so 9:1 on the compression is boosted numbers with some ring gapping and some cheap turbos and some piping you can build a down and dirty Chinese turbo kit for probably $1000 and a weekend of checking ring gap or don't at all. Then you've got a sturdy 600 hers pers to dump clutches and roast wheels maybe a angle kit and some suspension tuning you'll have a sweet track ready racer/ drift car.
Yeppp, that is exactly how one tests "to see if it works" as Tony-tenderoni said! 💪🏻👌🤘😎 right to the limiter and tossed thru them gears, hahaha what tires?!?!?
exactly... I was aware... my ls experience is with them. if youre using them for a swap tho, the accessories are strange. $850 alternator from the dealership... bought one for a regular truck, wouldnt connect to the harness... ie you gotta buy a bunch of other shit to... Desuzu the Chevy engine lol from a truck you just drop everything in how it comes mostly
or commit to outrageous commercial isuzu accessories and shit. its an isuzu with a gm engine. not like domestic isuzu which is GM. real isuzu, fuji heavy industries. the NPR trucks have bg5 subaru legacy door handles and locks and hardware and stuff. working on an npr is like working on an LS swapped subaru he is only using the short blocks lol
Sloppy Mechanics and Matt Happel are awesome. His recipes and willingness to share his knowledge are one of the main reasons the turbo junkyard movement even exists today. Bringing hot rodding to the people. Glad you were able to give him a proper shout out.
Consistently the best automotive content. Tony has an finite budget, it's why the stuff he and his crew do makes sense to the majority of those who watch it.
I get tired of channels that flaunt an endless stream of unattainable vehicles over and over. I can't relate to any of it. Tony's channel keeps it real.
I have watched Matt for over 13 years. He is an absolute LEGEND for the turbo LS community. His way of questioning everything and testing and just working through problems is so incredible to watch. It’s weird seeing his dyno from different angles and also super weird to not hear him talking from the get go all the way through the video hahaha. Not that he cares but I hope this video will drive more people to his channel he more than deserves it!
I grew up wrenching out of necessity: poor, $500 beaters etc..Back in the day there weren't all the bells and whistles but now there are. StayTuned is a new mechanics dream channel. Concise, on the spot, reasons "why we did this". Along with VGG and quite a few other channels the knowledge available is astounding. I'm not saying throw out the Chilton but man, if 1/2 of what is presented now was available back then that "caliper" might not have froze up on me. lol. These channels are keeping the car culture alive. WELL DONE Tony and crew for keeping the interest up, and for just the all around fun builds.
I'm a diesel mechanic and work on a lot of the diesel Isuzus and these 6.0 Isuzu box trucks, they actually do rev to like 6k rpm but they just ecu detune them. Just like the International, etc big box trucks with the 6.7 Cummins, they just detune them. They haul a lot of weight and they detune them to not stress the motor. Again, the 6.0 LS, 6.7 Cummins, etc are identical to the regular truck motors (except misc accesories) just tuned differently Also side note, interestingly, the bigger Isuzu NTR with the straight 6 turbo diesel, is actually a Duramax straight 6. Been playing around the idea of putting it in a squarebody lmao
@@davelowets I doubt if they have a hard rev limiter. Heavy truck engines are designed to be able to over-rev to the moon without damage, as this is sometimes necessary when descending a grade. For instance, the old ford 4.9 that was in every ups and usps truck, forklift, freight truck, water pump, generator, etc, would rev to 5-6k under no load conditions, but airflow and ignition timing was so poor that there was no torque available after 3500. I assume these engines are tuned to mimic the same operating parameters, by pulling timing and closing the throttle blade to limit torque. Just because an engine WILL rev to 6k doesn't mean there is any point in doing so, except during engine braking when descending a long grade fully loaded.
I hate to keep adding posts (but hey it feeds the algorithm), all gen4 oil pans use the newer metric thread for oil filters. The older gen3 use a slightly larger 13/16" SAE thread. Stone needs to ask for a 2010 Camaro 6.2L filter, or any 2007+ LS car/truck (besides 'classic' truck models).
The newer stuff uses the larger 22 mm thread , older stuff is 13/16 which is 20.6 mm. See list below. 2000 Truck 6.0 is 13/16 " ( 20.6 mm ) 2011 Camaro 6.2 ( e bay swap pan ) 22 mm ( about 7/8" ) 2006 Corvette 6.0 13/16 " ( 20.6 mm )
Best part of this video was seeing Matt. This is like a super hero team up of gearheads! Next get Gale Banks to tell us why everything done was wrong & teach us about airmass.
Stay Tuned is the one channel that you know that you’re going to always get something interesting every week. Not high dollar builds or cars to get running and put away for another 5-10 years. It’s content that gear heads are doing in their own garage, but maybe don’t have the technical expertise of Tony, Barb, and Stone. I certainly can’t wait for Friday to see what they have planned next. Greatest show on the webs!
To clear up the head # questions: All the rec port castings are pretty much identical except the 5364, the exh port is a little different and tends to flow more when ported to the max (more meat). They used the same castings between LS3 (aka car) and truck/suv 6.0/6.2L engines. The differences: the springs, valves, and seat cuts. Truck springs have a little less max lift than LS3/LS6 but not much at all (0.550" with soft ramp cam). Solid valves for trucks. Less care given to truck castings for finishing the seat cuts (some have nasty overhang or deep cuts above the seat). The hollow/sodium valves are great for longevity when run hard, but overall weaker for high rpm. You'll notice >100k mile truck heads all have pitted exh valve seats. Just lap them & send it. GM did this with the 243 LS6 heads, using them interchangably on the 5.3L engines and identical to 799 castings. They just didn't use hollow valves or give perfect valve jobs on truck versions, just like the gen4 truck engines. In all cases (243 and rec-port), they all flow virtually the same as each other.
@@RyanMcIntyre very presumptuous assuming I was trolling when I was complimenting his extensive knowledge and asked for more. Check yourself bf trying to cut down others
With the cathedral ports they actually used the same 243 castings on the performance engines and the vortec truck engines but i believe on the rec ports 821's went on the performance engines while 823's went on the trucks, basically the same other than hard parts. Did any of the vortec line of engines get the 821's?
I loved watching Tony with Lucky, back when MT on demand was still worth having. I really miss them on Hot Rod Garage, Fred and Dave (the dirt heads)on Dirt Everyday, Roadkill Garage with David and Steve, and obviously Roadkill with David and Mike. When they mess with that line up, they ruined it for me and I stopped paying. Anyway, it was cool watching Tony grow into being on camera on HRG. He was really reserved when he started, but he became “TAngelo” pretty quick, but who can resist Lucky. I’m glad that he’s who he is and is that guy with every one he’s around. But man oh man, that episode with his dad got me. Having restored my first car with my dad while I was 15 ( 74 Z28, I know most people hate the bumpers, but it’s what I could afford in 87’ ), then another project car at 17 (67 VW Type 1, laugh all you want, but with a 1835 engine, it was fun and was meant for stereo competitions anyway), I have a soft spot for fathers and sons working on cars together. I had planned on buying my mom and dad another 55 Chevy like my dad had before getting married and going to Vietnam. I was going to get another 427, like he had, build it, Muncie 4 spd, 3:73 posi, just like his was, and give it to them for their 40th anniversary. But lung cancer took him 3 years before they got there. So that stuff gets to me. I want to see more of his dad’s Camaro build myself. Anyway, love the show man, and the punk music. Keep it coming and we’ll keep watching!
Sloppy is the man he has started over haft the world doing turbo stuff by showing videos of how to do it this man needs a award and to be acknowledged for all of his efforts in showing for free, what he does to turbo.L.S engines !!! If it wont for him loading the fairmont videos, 20 years ago, it was a long time age. I would have never done nothing with turbo's so thank you from me !!
@SloppyMechanics I hope 1 day I will get to meet you my good friend has he drove his turbo truck to a class I think is what he said you had this was 15 years ago or more or a dyno day and he says you are a cool dud !! He's the mega squirt tuner for me it's so much to retain on top of everything else I love it from my sole tho it completes me to hear the turbo and tires and the smells thats my happy place theres not much that brings me so much joy all teeth like turbo stuff !!! The farmont videos to this day make me smile like no other young and cuting lose with buds love it !!
You're on the right track when it comes to why the HP rating is so low. More often than not, industrial engines are rated HP@service RPM rather than peak HP. They're set up more for durability, reliability, and efficiency. It's this way because industrial engine users don't care about peak HP. They want to know what HP the engine efficiently generates at constant load, and with assurance it can do so for thousands of hours without needing major mechanical attention.
I agree Thomas. I used to watch all sorts of different shows then they all started to seem the same and got very boring to me. Tony and his friends are just like me and my mates hanging out, eating pizza and having fun. I can relate to what they are doing. Everything is on a budget. No sponsors throwing massive amounts of money and parts. I'm sure they get some but it's not turning the show into one big commercial like all the other auto shows.
Please keep the regular guy vibe and work ethic. Matt is an absolute legend and fantastic guy to team up with. At his young age he is the Godfather of Joe Schmo turbo builds around the world.
My son and I started a tradition of pizza movie night on Fridays during....2020. Now we watch yall work hard and make dreams come true. Yall are not just entertaining but inspiring!!!
I’m a bedridden PARALYZED ARMY VETERAN who’s also been a double master advance auto technician,and racer since mid 1980’s ,although I started with gocarts in 1974 ,at age 8 racing ,and playing with their engines, by 16 I was building and racing outlaw cars after school..at 17 I was in Monterey racing at Laguna raceway, which is now Mazda raceway…I hung out and around the famous Firebird designer and racers shop that was across from the airport , Herb Adams, I ran one of his firebirds on the track even before I had my own driver LICENSE in ca..anyway I’d like to say hi from MY BED HERE IN Texas..I’ve been a long time fan, and didn’t realize I hadn’t subscribed yet..so here’s another SUB..
The industrial powerplants are rated at low RPM and are tuned for garbage fuel to run at full load at a constant speed. Another example is how Generac bought the rights for BBC architecture from GM and continued to make gen VI big blocks for generators, theyre rated at an absurdly low 150hp at 1800rpm on natural gas. They even increased the displacement to 9L, I believe.
I have found lots of boat inboards have similar attributes. Ended up with some mercury marine vortec heads with the old school small block intake pattern. And 58cc combustion chambers. Should make a reliable, fun hot rod 4 speed short bed Chevy
Another note on bolts when re-assembling LS engines. If you re-use any bolt that lists a torque+angle method, you CANNOT use that same procedure if they're used. You'll overtighten them quite a bit since they're now pre-stretched. Matt Happel (and others) have figured out used head bolts can be set (dry) to 55-70lbs, used gen4 rod bolts to 51lbs, 65lbs for inner/13mm main bolts and 55lbs for outer/15mm main studs. That's for USED bolts, new should only get the torque+angle deal.
one of the best videos yet Tony, awesome awesome content, and i love the shop antics, you actually feel like you're there instead of the cutting to all the action parts.... "we're all experts now" might become one of my most favorite lines when working w/ apprentices
I'm 48yrs. I pulled well dropped my first motor it was a like a 85/86 saville I was like 10 or so. 😝 My brother is the one that did it. I wiped grease on my face I was a kid. Then it went down the road of building motors with my brother. There's a certain type of kid to have the love that I have still today for hot rods I was a kid when I fell in love with cars motors Harley's. I'm a grease ball from the North East I'm a builder in my everyday life. Building motors and Harley s is a WICKED HOBBY .. Alright I've waisted enough of everyones time. All I want to say is your channel is the only one out here that touches on the real stuff about building motors. Also you put the stuff that happens when there's a mistake building a motor and blows up. A lot of these channels out here DO EVERYTHING PERFECTLY NEVER HAVE PROBLEMS. THANKS FOR SHOWING HOW ITS REALLY GOES DOWN. But hey thanks to all of you guys over there for all the work y'all do... 🤘🏻🤘🏻✌🏻🇺🇲
MANY of us DO do things perfectly. I know that I CERTAINLY try to. If you don't have the time or the money to do it correctly the first time, what are you gonna do WHEN it comes to the second time?? Reality is NOT always just lumping shit together and praying.... Edit: I have about $32,000 invested into my last big block. I was NOT going to just slam it together and hope it works OK. For a couple hundred dollar engine, go for it, but NOT for something that you want to work right, and actually care about.
@@davelowets OK... So you have money to throw around. Doesn't mean this guy can't put a $500 junkyard LS into a $500 vehicle and make it work correctly. Not to mention have much more fun with it as oppose to tiptoeing around a $32k engine that'd make your colon drop out if you broke it
This is the score of the century. I'm glad you got it back on the road. You're a good dude Tony involving Matt and the sloppy guys. He has helped me alot with info and build stuff on my turbo 6.0 FC
I'm pretty certain those style chevy V8 engines take one of 4 AC delco oil filters mainly PF 46 or PF 48 they can also take a PF 61 or PF 63 if you want a tall alternative filter. If you use the large thread on the small thread you have a filter fall off I've seen that mix up happen before.
I haven’t checked the listing for that engine but I’d be willing to bet that power rating is based on CNG for fuel. A lot of industrial equipment is rated that way.
Watching this from Germany with my little mk2 golf in the garage and sulking that we cannot find gems like these here. I am a mopar fan but tbh - with the current prices, I am itching in getting a beater nova shitbox and some ls goodness to throw something like this together, knowing full well I am never gonna be allowed driving this on the street 😐. Greatest show on youtubes guys, seeing you fear anything will explode after first start up rings true to anyone wrenching on their own shit. So relatable and entertaining, you guys rock. Best combo!
Tony, after the struggle bus that was the sea of aftermarket junk for the C6, this was a fantastic turn of events and a real feel good episode. Being able to find a hidden treasure of a powerplant for cheap seems to be next to impossible these days, and felt very - well, there's no other way to put it - "old time hotroddy." I'm not even a C5 fan, but Snowcone has become one of those special project cars that's just fun to watch. I also greatly appreciated the ~20 minute format of the Tuesday special. Had great pacing to it too - sometimes, it pays to rip the cuts in the edit a bit harder too, and it worked a treat in that video. P.S.: Funny how a flood-damaged C6 turned out to be A-OK, but all the new parts for it turned out to el garbage-o ready-o.
Every time I hear that dyno max out, I keep thinking of a Don Garlits (sp) dragster blowing up when doing a burnout behind the line. When it blew and Big Daddy was outside the car with the helmet off, he just looked at it and said, “well, when you pull that many RPMs, there is bound to be something you forgot to tighten or twist, or whatever, and then it just EXPLODES all over the place. Better here than on the track at 250-plus miles per hour!!!” Yeah, damned good point!!!
just a little tip on your pre lube pump up deal. Put a Tire valve stem in it around top of it and use the electric air pump to put pressure in to about 35 Lbs and no more pump by hand. was easier. a unibit makes a perfect hole for Valve stem. carry on.
Awesome to see you working with Matt. I have an old Grand Wagoneer with the “dontbsme” sloppy combo. If not for Matt I would never have been able to do it. Would love to see you do a dont bs me build on the channel.
Glad to see this video. After you picked up those motors I went down a rabbit hole. Was thinking of k swapping my brz later down the road and now the gears are turning. 0:37
If you look at one of Richard Holdener's vids, a stock cam 6.0 with Holley EFI , no cat makes 210 HP at 2,800 RPM so the 175 HP rating with accessories, full exhaust, hot coolant and emission tune is about right.
@@mostlymotorized actually the stock 87mm TB is plenty for all but the most crazy builds, even the 78mm doesn't hold back any HP. The truck intakes also make nearly identical HP as the LS3 car intakes. There's only 1 or 2 aftermarket intakes that outperform either by more than single-digit HP.
Yup, I doubt there is very much difference between the industrial engines and the car engines - they're just running at a completely different RPM range, and rated as such. After all, that's how you keep these engines as cheap as possible, have as little variance as possible.
All the Isuzu box trucks around here have those little turbo diesels. I've never played with one, but I seen some wild stuff from Thailand. They love those little things, they use them in everything. Those river boat things, rice tractors, racing rice tractors, irrigation pumps, drift cars, drag cars, actual box trucks but like, high performance.
20:16 What you have is the ultimate budget banger. Wow, I didn't know these engines existed. I want one of these myself. Cam, more ring gap, a little boost, and you're having fun.
I love my 6.0 LS2 in my '05 GTO! Port and polished heads whenever I did a tear down all new bearings, cam, rings, headers, K&n FIPK, Gibson mufflers, built T56, and fully tuned myself with HP tuners. I absolutely love that car. But ever since I got my C7 Corvette 3LT, the GTO has been sitting in the garage laying dormant now for almost 3 years. I need to get her cleaned up and take out driving again
Speedway motors rocks. Long time customer,,, nothing but praise from me,,tech people do their very best im absolutely sure. Im not the best but definitely a bit knowledgeable on several motor head ins an outs,,,they been great for me,, thanks y'all 😊
Great show guys, at least Barb admit it that he did it. That's a real man. Love the show. Keep it up I live in Downingtown. Maybe someday I'll come up? Maybe not
Man you guys are grinding hard. Much respect! I love the down and dirty builds. Your talent and knowledge shines through, as we all know that it isn’t as easy to put cars together this fast without knowing what you’re doing.
In this episode, Barb sets the battery charger to 6V. He then proceeds to install the wrong oil filter. Right when you think things couldn't get worse, he forgets to tighten the pulley bolts. That and more, coming up!
What just amazed me is that this channel only has 339,000 subs. One of the greatest car channels on UA-cam!! Thanks guys always look forward to your videos!!!
@@hydrocarbon82ah yes , covid definitely wasn't an attempt by china to meddle in our elections because they wanted to get a guy they had bought and paid for into power and get the guy out who was sticking it to them .... yeah it was definitely all trumps fault! to be clear i blame him for giving the sniffles any credibility at all , but the crooks in dc and nyc didn't give him many options! no matter what he did they were going to complain though so there should've never been any "shut down" and the only people who should've had any change would be elderly . we could've stomped through that in less than a year if we just got to herd immunity quickly
Stay Tuned. A double entendre, of great content from great humans, enthusicastic delivery, of awesome content. Thank you for all the money and skillz you present for ALL for our entertainment. You guys are my Saturday moning cartoons, like I wished for all week growing up waiting for the week to end. Pennsylvania is known and remembered to me for great Cheesesteaks, Pizza and Hot Rod people! I was born in Allentown, raised in Chicago, now live in Austin, Texas.
L96 swapped my 2011 Tahoe LTZ. Plug and play. Just get the DOD turned off and a chassis dyno. I have more power and better MPG. Love the channel man. I've been a longtime fan , and you guys are killing it.
@@SloppyMechanicsgot two 4.8 silverados 2001 and 03. And another 4.8 in the garage for 250. They are getting expensive from the sloppy tax. You got to make some videos to turn people back to some crappy ford engines to free up the sloppy tax on ls engines.
Those heads are absolutely better than any stock 6.0 heads! LS3 head on a LQ4 which I am almost positive that is what you have and exactly what I am planning on building for my 79 C30. And the absolute bitching part is if you want to get really crazy with the HP you can put a supercharger on that motor. Because with the LS3 head it will fit with the superchargers that came on the Camaros and Corvettes with the LS3 motors. This video just got me super excited! Thanks again 🫡
When changing cams and the engine is on a stand, flip it upside down and let gravity do it's thing. Who needs the stick trick?! edit: 10 minutes later when you're putting the new cam in you say as much. ✔
The stick does nothing if its not big enough to wedge against the body of the lifter. The lifter only protrudes into the oil galley slightly less than half way. The lobes certainly dont push the lifter up enough to get the stick under it. If that was the case you would have a huge internal oil leak.
@@stevenbelue5496Yes, the stick DOES.... sometimes you have to turn the cam as you're putting the stick IN, so that the lobes that are in the way clear. I've done the stick thing with the engine in the chassis MANY times, and I CAN assure you that it works.
@davelowets the stick does what? The stick definately does not go under the lifter body. The only way it can hold the lifter is if its big enough and just the right size to wedge agaisnt the lifter body. Like i said if the lobe raised the lifter up high enough to get the stick under the lifter body, think about it, you would have a huge internal oil leak because that passage way your sliding the stick into is a pressurized oil galley and if the lobe raised the lifter high enough to get a stick under it you would have zero oil pressure because everytime a lobe hit max lift you would have a huge gapping oil leak internally.
@@davelowets so your saying with the lobe up you could slide a stick in there and make contact with the lobe? Lol, im guessing lobe lift would have to be well over an inch for that to happen which would be impossible cause the cam would not physically fit into the cam tunnel. Thats lobe lift so its not multiplied by 1.7 for valve lift which would be up near 2 inches which it wouldnt have the spring height for. From the cam tunnel to the oil passage(inside edge to inside edge) is probably 3/4" or more so you can kinda visualize how big the lobe would have to be to protrude into the oil galley. Im sorry im being sarcastic but i dont think you really looked at it, and maybe im wrong and im looking like an idiot but i dont think so.
I've been driving a C5 Z06 on the street as a daily driver for 12 years now. I learned more from you guys in this video about the internals of my car than anything else I've seen. Great fun.
Didn’t ever think I’d see Allentown get mentioned for a tuning shop. It’s nice to see my home state have something so close by to help out such a big channel.
@@StayTunedTA If the bone marrow is still around you and the Denmah should do a collab build with the spare 6.0 and challenge the F-bomb to a best 3 out of 5 drag race I've always wanted to see a Sloppy build beat up on the F-bomb even if it's fried by the end of it
The last few episodes are my jam. C5s, LS swaps, and there is never enough recognition for The Happel or Tony. I used to be a happy SC guy and life was simple. Now I'll be pushing twins through a rebuilt 6.6 over the winter.
So... I played hookie from my company's 'Winter Gathering' (AKA DE&I 'conversation' for Christmas Party in November... are they serious?!?!) and watched this video (and ordered _real_ pizza instead of vegan 'dry heave' bites and tofu 'you can't serious!' meals) and I was //not// disappointed. Tony, 6v Barb, Stone & crew were non-stop on this and got it done. full stop. Add to that - $375 for an LS that hit pretty much 500hp crank, Way To Go!!!
I learn so much by watching this channel. I appreciate you taking the time to explain what you’re doing and why. Btw, HotRod Garage is unwatchable without you bro.
The reason why GM has always been able to make dirt-cheap power from LS engines is because they are THE original universal engine. Before BMW and Toyota's straight sixes, before 500cc per cylinder became standard, before big block engines were a thing, GM had the small block V8. Many industrial truck engines eventually had LS3 heads (or a variant of them) - that's how GM was able to keep the reliability of the engine at that rated RPM and power level while spreading the engineering costs of higher performance over multiple applications. They make such stupid amounts of torque down low that with the right gearing, they're incredibly efficient. The Corvette, from the C5 through the C7, got 25-30mpg at 70mph in top gear and still made 400+ lb-ft of torque. Use an iron block instead and you have an EXTREMELY high duty cycle application.
I just ran into this Oil Filter situation with my LQ4 build in my garage! some of the old filters, IE old adapters and Holley swap oil pans actually use a M1-110A filter not the 2006 and newer M1-113A filters :) lesson learned! i lost my bung during assembly and bought a new threaded portion for the pan which turned out to be the M1-113A so i had to get a new filter.
0 complaints with the LS stuff. Tons of people love them and people will watch the videos. I know you guys will do plenty of videos with other engines as well.
If you've blown up 35 engines within a recent period, perhaps you should consider whether you are as competent a builder as you would like to think. You might just be better at blowing them up than you are at building them.
That essentially looks like an L96 out of the Silverado 2500 with flex fuel. Just detuned for fuel and reliability. I have one in my truck. Replacing the o-ring on the pickup tube and installing pickup tube support girdle will help keep the oil pressure high. I installed a high pressure pump on mine while I was under the truck though and replaced the stupid plastic barbell in the oil bypass. Huge difference in oil availability. Next on my shopping list is a VVT cam and new lifters and springs. I already have intake, headers, exhaust and an HP tuner. These motors are so easy and cheap to play with.
Tony you are the kind of guy I hung out with in highschool you are always building stuff but it never stays together but with that being said I like the show keep it up it brings back old memories
You know its funny, I used to feel like "all LS are the same." But the more I read and watch, the more interesting things I find about this series of engines. They really did a ton with the "same" engine. Different blocks, different uses, compressions, displacements. And I would love to do something with the new series LV1, seems like an awesome little V6.
"I'm afraid to take it anywhere honestly.." That was quite the sequence of events, the type that starts making you question everything 😂 thank you for sharing it with all of us - you guys are awesome.
17:30 Next time because you have the engine on a stand, just flip the motor over on the stand so the bottom is up. Gravity will hold the rockers into the trays, pull cam and install new one. Dont even have to mess with the dowel rods and zero worry about a lifter falling.
0821 heads should be a rec port but not all of them came with the hollow valves. They used them on L76 6.0's in the G8 and I think GXP as well, but both with an aluminum block. If it's an iron block 6.0 it wouldn't make sense to run those heads as they give up low end to cathedral ports. Likely some mashup of Pontiac or GM selling whatever they had to "industrial" customers. They used them in generators as well. They state the HP low because I'm sure the trucks got whatever GM had to offer and better to understate and overperform since those types of trucks aren't advertised as 300+ HP.
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Hey so 9:1 on the compression is boosted numbers with some ring gapping and some cheap turbos and some piping you can build a down and dirty Chinese turbo kit for probably $1000 and a weekend of checking ring gap or don't at all. Then you've got a sturdy 600 hers pers to dump clutches and roast wheels maybe a angle kit and some suspension tuning you'll have a sweet track ready racer/ drift car.
So where did you get the engine for 375??
Get rid of Barb.
Stone is way more genuine.
Yeppp, that is exactly how one tests "to see if it works" as Tony-tenderoni said! 💪🏻👌🤘😎 right to the limiter and tossed thru them gears, hahaha what tires?!?!?
@@bjones5240 clown statement
All I know is, I would not trust that sloppy guy
He seems shifty!
@@StayTunedTAwho TF tunes out of a paving company
@SloppyMechanics how many paving company's have a dyno in the shop lmao 🤣
It's the beard. Those guys are shifty. 😁
Even happier that I just ordered the best cam from Matt after seeing this
And just like that, industrial LS engine prices just went through the roof.
exactly... I was aware... my ls experience is with them.
if youre using them for a swap tho, the accessories are strange. $850 alternator from the dealership... bought one for a regular truck, wouldnt connect to the harness...
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you gotta buy a bunch of other shit to... Desuzu the Chevy engine lol
from a truck you just drop everything in how it comes mostly
or commit to outrageous commercial isuzu accessories and shit.
its an isuzu with a gm engine.
not like domestic isuzu which is GM. real isuzu, fuji heavy industries. the NPR trucks have bg5 subaru legacy door handles and locks and hardware and stuff.
working on an npr is like working on an LS swapped subaru
he is only using the short blocks lol
Exactly what I was going to post.
@@KaosProject21so how do I get a deal on one????
I want one how's that work
Sloppy Mechanics and Matt Happel are awesome. His recipes and willingness to share his knowledge are one of the main reasons the turbo junkyard movement even exists today. Bringing hot rodding to the people. Glad you were able to give him a proper shout out.
Sloppy central ftw
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Yep i built motors but never had the confidence to mess with any of that stuff, sloppy opened my eyes.
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@@SloppyMechanicssellout shill
Consistently the best automotive content. Tony has an finite budget, it's why the stuff he and his crew do makes sense to the majority of those who watch it.
I get tired of channels that flaunt an endless stream of unattainable vehicles over and over. I can't relate to any of it. Tony's channel keeps it real.
Lawrence lt Tolman from power nation has his own channel and it’s relatable content as well. He has awd trucks and 8.1 turbo Silverado build
I have watched Matt for over 13 years. He is an absolute LEGEND for the turbo LS community. His way of questioning everything and testing and just working through problems is so incredible to watch. It’s weird seeing his dyno from different angles and also super weird to not hear him talking from the get go all the way through the video hahaha. Not that he cares but I hope this video will drive more people to his channel he more than deserves it!
Someone forgot the second microphone or we would’ve had Matt talking the whole time! It was a long week
@@StayTunedTA bad idea I’ll talk the whole time, I’m terrible
@@SloppyMechanics Rambletron
@@SloppyMechanicsRAMBLETRON BABY
@@StayTunedTAI remember saying get just a cheap camera mic for room audio a while back lol
I grew up wrenching out of necessity: poor, $500 beaters etc..Back in the day there weren't all the bells and whistles but now there are. StayTuned is a new mechanics dream channel. Concise, on the spot, reasons "why we did this". Along with VGG and quite a few other channels the knowledge available is astounding. I'm not saying throw out the Chilton but man, if 1/2 of what is presented now was available back then that "caliper" might not have froze up on me. lol. These channels are keeping the car culture alive. WELL DONE Tony and crew for keeping the interest up, and for just the all around fun builds.
That 6v freakout was incredible.
HAHAHAH I was losing it.
@@StayTunedTATony had the complete blue screen. That was gold.
quickly followed by the wrong oil filter lol
Followed by a loose tensioner
@@StayTunedTAfunniest sht I've seen .. like someone just shat in your vicinity
I'm a diesel mechanic and work on a lot of the diesel Isuzus and these 6.0 Isuzu box trucks, they actually do rev to like 6k rpm but they just ecu detune them. Just like the International, etc big box trucks with the 6.7 Cummins, they just detune them. They haul a lot of weight and they detune them to not stress the motor. Again, the 6.0 LS, 6.7 Cummins, etc are identical to the regular truck motors (except misc accesories) just tuned differently
Also side note, interestingly, the bigger Isuzu NTR with the straight 6 turbo diesel, is actually a Duramax straight 6. Been playing around the idea of putting it in a squarebody lmao
If they rev to 6k, then they are NOT "detuned". If they WERE, they would NOT rev that high.
@@davelowetsI think he's saying they can with the proper tune, not saying they rev that high in the industrials
@@davelowets I doubt if they have a hard rev limiter. Heavy truck engines are designed to be able to over-rev to the moon without damage, as this is sometimes necessary when descending a grade. For instance, the old ford 4.9 that was in every ups and usps truck, forklift, freight truck, water pump, generator, etc, would rev to 5-6k under no load conditions, but airflow and ignition timing was so poor that there was no torque available after 3500. I assume these engines are tuned to mimic the same operating parameters, by pulling timing and closing the throttle blade to limit torque. Just because an engine WILL rev to 6k doesn't mean there is any point in doing so, except during engine braking when descending a long grade fully loaded.
Duramax engines are v8s... how can a straight 6 be a Duramax? Just because both are made by Isuzu?
@@motorhead281 I thought the same thing but I googled it and there is a duramax I6, LM2 or LZ0. It’s a 3.0 around 300hp 500 tq
I hate to keep adding posts (but hey it feeds the algorithm), all gen4 oil pans use the newer metric thread for oil filters. The older gen3 use a slightly larger 13/16" SAE thread. Stone needs to ask for a 2010 Camaro 6.2L filter, or any 2007+ LS car/truck (besides 'classic' truck models).
REALLY. Ok I appreciate it! And keep those comments rolling!
The newer stuff uses the larger 22 mm thread , older stuff is 13/16 which is 20.6 mm. See list below.
2000 Truck 6.0 is 13/16 " ( 20.6 mm )
2011 Camaro 6.2 ( e bay swap pan ) 22 mm ( about 7/8" )
2006 Corvette 6.0 13/16 " ( 20.6 mm )
@@bobroberts2371Ahha! That's why the new oil filter fell off. GM changed the rules of the game..🤨 Good to know. 😎👍
I have a 13 silverado and a 00 camaro and this threw me off too my first oil change on the truck.
Gen3 was PF46, Gen4 is PF48
Best part of this video was seeing Matt. This is like a super hero team up of gearheads!
Next get Gale Banks to tell us why everything done was wrong & teach us about airmass.
52:00 oh my God, Tony's face when he finds out it's on 6v 😂😂😂😂😂
Hahahahah its like he smelled a fart but it was just such a shocking thing lmao
And the fact that dude didn't seem to realize why that was a problem??😄
@@jeremyb4493 he's like more amps ? Lmao
Very good
My guy was flabbergasted
Stay Tuned is the one channel that you know that you’re going to always get something interesting every week. Not high dollar builds or cars to get running and put away for another 5-10 years. It’s content that gear heads are doing in their own garage, but maybe don’t have the technical expertise of Tony, Barb, and Stone.
I certainly can’t wait for Friday to see what they have planned next.
Greatest show on the webs!
To clear up the head # questions: All the rec port castings are pretty much identical except the 5364, the exh port is a little different and tends to flow more when ported to the max (more meat). They used the same castings between LS3 (aka car) and truck/suv 6.0/6.2L engines.
The differences: the springs, valves, and seat cuts. Truck springs have a little less max lift than LS3/LS6 but not much at all (0.550" with soft ramp cam). Solid valves for trucks. Less care given to truck castings for finishing the seat cuts (some have nasty overhang or deep cuts above the seat). The hollow/sodium valves are great for longevity when run hard, but overall weaker for high rpm. You'll notice >100k mile truck heads all have pitted exh valve seats. Just lap them & send it.
GM did this with the 243 LS6 heads, using them interchangably on the 5.3L engines and identical to 799 castings. They just didn't use hollow valves or give perfect valve jobs on truck versions, just like the gen4 truck engines. In all cases (243 and rec-port), they all flow virtually the same as each other.
Give us more Britannica
@@at_3831Why would you tease someone for sharing so much valuable information when you’ve contributed nothing?
@@RyanMcIntyre very presumptuous assuming I was trolling when I was complimenting his extensive knowledge and asked for more. Check yourself bf trying to cut down others
@@RyanMcIntyre change your tampon
With the cathedral ports they actually used the same 243 castings on the performance engines and the vortec truck engines but i believe on the rec ports 821's went on the performance engines while 823's went on the trucks, basically the same other than hard parts. Did any of the vortec line of engines get the 821's?
I loved watching Tony with Lucky, back when MT on demand was still worth having. I really miss them on Hot Rod Garage, Fred and Dave (the dirt heads)on Dirt Everyday, Roadkill Garage with David and Steve, and obviously Roadkill with David and Mike. When they mess with that line up, they ruined it for me and I stopped paying.
Anyway, it was cool watching Tony grow into being on camera on HRG. He was really reserved when he started, but he became “TAngelo” pretty quick, but who can resist Lucky. I’m glad that he’s who he is and is that guy with every one he’s around. But man oh man, that episode with his dad got me. Having restored my first car with my dad while I was 15 ( 74 Z28, I know most people hate the bumpers, but it’s what I could afford in 87’ ), then another project car at 17 (67 VW Type 1, laugh all you want, but with a 1835 engine, it was fun and was meant for stereo competitions anyway), I have a soft spot for fathers and sons working on cars together.
I had planned on buying my mom and dad another 55 Chevy like my dad had before getting married and going to Vietnam. I was going to get another 427, like he had, build it, Muncie 4 spd, 3:73 posi, just like his was, and give it to them for their 40th anniversary. But lung cancer took him 3 years before they got there. So that stuff gets to me. I want to see more of his dad’s Camaro build myself.
Anyway, love the show man, and the punk music. Keep it coming and we’ll keep watching!
Sloppy is the man he has started over haft the world doing turbo stuff by showing videos of how to do it this man needs a award and to be acknowledged for all of his efforts in showing for free, what he does to turbo.L.S engines !!! If it wont for him loading the fairmont videos, 20 years ago, it was a long time age. I would have never done nothing with turbo's so thank you from me !!
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@SloppyMechanics I hope 1 day I will get to meet you my good friend has he drove his turbo truck to a class I think is what he said you had this was 15 years ago or more or a dyno day and he says you are a cool dud !! He's the mega squirt tuner for me it's so much to retain on top of everything else I love it from my sole tho it completes me to hear the turbo and tires and the smells thats my happy place theres not much that brings me so much joy all teeth like turbo stuff !!! The farmont videos to this day make me smile like no other young and cuting lose with buds love it !!
You're on the right track when it comes to why the HP rating is so low. More often than not, industrial engines are rated HP@service RPM rather than peak HP. They're set up more for durability, reliability, and efficiency. It's this way because industrial engine users don't care about peak HP. They want to know what HP the engine efficiently generates at constant load, and with assurance it can do so for thousands of hours without needing major mechanical attention.
The Best Damn Car Show on the Internet just keeps getting better somehow. Love it!
I'm pretty sure this is a pizza review channel that does car work on the side.
I agree Thomas. I used to watch all sorts of different shows then they all started to seem the same and got very boring to me. Tony and his friends are just like me and my mates hanging out, eating pizza and having fun. I can relate to what they are doing. Everything is on a budget. No sponsors throwing massive amounts of money and parts. I'm sure they get some but it's not turning the show into one big commercial like all the other auto shows.
Steve Morris, Jimmy Oaks, and Jimmy Dale are my top three
can i add SRC, and The and Old Mans Garage @at_3831
Please keep the regular guy vibe and work ethic. Matt is an absolute legend and fantastic guy to team up with. At his young age he is the Godfather of Joe Schmo turbo builds around the world.
My son and I started a tradition of pizza movie night on Fridays during....2020. Now we watch yall work hard and make dreams come true. Yall are not just entertaining but inspiring!!!
That's super cool. Thanks for watching!
I’m a bedridden PARALYZED ARMY VETERAN who’s also been a double master advance auto technician,and racer since mid 1980’s ,although I started with gocarts in 1974 ,at age 8 racing ,and playing with their engines, by 16 I was building and racing outlaw cars after school..at 17 I was in Monterey racing at Laguna raceway, which is now Mazda raceway…I hung out and around the famous Firebird designer and racers shop that was across from the airport , Herb Adams, I ran one of his firebirds on the track even before I had my own driver LICENSE in ca..anyway I’d like to say hi from MY BED HERE IN Texas..I’ve been a long time fan, and didn’t realize I hadn’t subscribed yet..so here’s another SUB..
The industrial powerplants are rated at low RPM and are tuned for garbage fuel to run at full load at a constant speed. Another example is how Generac bought the rights for BBC architecture from GM and continued to make gen VI big blocks for generators, theyre rated at an absurdly low 150hp at 1800rpm on natural gas. They even increased the displacement to 9L, I believe.
Ye the make the 454
I have found lots of boat inboards have similar attributes. Ended up with some mercury marine vortec heads with the old school small block intake pattern. And 58cc combustion chambers. Should make a reliable, fun hot rod 4 speed short bed Chevy
Much like 318 mopars. Lazy cams weak springs lasted forever... millions of miles in taxi cabs and police vehicles
No, they didn't open them up into 540's....
Reminds me of my 7.3 diesel. Giant engine low hp high longevity.
It's the collab I didn't know I needed. Great work helping out the Stay Tuned guys, Mat.
Another note on bolts when re-assembling LS engines. If you re-use any bolt that lists a torque+angle method, you CANNOT use that same procedure if they're used. You'll overtighten them quite a bit since they're now pre-stretched.
Matt Happel (and others) have figured out used head bolts can be set (dry) to 55-70lbs, used gen4 rod bolts to 51lbs, 65lbs for inner/13mm main bolts and 55lbs for outer/15mm main studs. That's for USED bolts, new should only get the torque+angle deal.
I needed this information. Thank you
I think thats about where i torqued my mains, but my gen 4 rods i did 45
Excellent info. Thanks.
I would NEVER re-use a torque to yield fastener, EVER....
They're cheap, do it RIGHT and throw em in the garbage and get NEW ones.
@@davelowets ive reused hundreds of them and never had a failure
one of the best videos yet Tony, awesome awesome content, and i love the shop antics, you actually feel like you're there instead of the cutting to all the action parts.... "we're all experts now" might become one of my most favorite lines when working w/ apprentices
The ending burnout had that engine singing beautifully. Great score!!
Thanks!
Nice to see you working with sloppy mechanics finally. Been following that guy for years and he never gets enough credit
Nice job, guys! Plus, it was cool to see Matt on the channel. Dude is a legend. 😎
Thanks! Matt rules.
I'm 48yrs. I pulled well dropped my first motor it was a like a 85/86 saville I was like 10 or so. 😝 My brother is the one that did it. I wiped grease on my face I was a kid. Then it went down the road of building motors with my brother. There's a certain type of kid to have the love that I have still today for hot rods I was a kid when I fell in love with cars motors Harley's. I'm a grease ball from the North East I'm a builder in my everyday life. Building motors and Harley s is a WICKED HOBBY .. Alright I've waisted enough of everyones time. All I want to say is your channel is the only one out here that touches on the real stuff about building motors. Also you put the stuff that happens when there's a mistake building a motor and blows up. A lot of these channels out here DO EVERYTHING PERFECTLY NEVER HAVE PROBLEMS. THANKS FOR SHOWING HOW ITS REALLY GOES DOWN. But hey thanks to all of you guys over there for all the work y'all do... 🤘🏻🤘🏻✌🏻🇺🇲
MANY of us DO do things perfectly.
I know that I CERTAINLY try to.
If you don't have the time or the money to do it correctly the first time, what are you gonna do WHEN it comes to the second time??
Reality is NOT always just lumping shit together and praying....
Edit: I have about $32,000 invested into my last big block. I was NOT going to just slam it together and hope it works OK.
For a couple hundred dollar engine, go for it, but NOT for something that you want to work right, and actually care about.
@@davelowetsWhat does a $32,000 engine get you these days? Do u race it?
@@davelowets
OK... So you have money to throw around.
Doesn't mean this guy can't put a $500 junkyard LS into a $500 vehicle and make it work correctly.
Not to mention have much more fun with it as oppose to tiptoeing around a $32k engine that'd make your colon drop out if you broke it
NO DOUBT IN MY MIND TONY CAN KILL IT! With all due respect
Well, maybe?
@@StayTunedTA Never lose faith in yourself.
Hey Tony, thanks for not dragging this out across 4 videos like some other channels.
This is the score of the century. I'm glad you got it back on the road. You're a good dude Tony involving Matt and the sloppy guys. He has helped me alot with info and build stuff on my turbo 6.0 FC
FC RX7?
@chrisdonnelly5904 yeah
Shout-out to ‘Barb - what a great guy and friend who always helps with a great attitude!
Well done boys. Great show. Long live the LS.
I'm pretty certain those style chevy V8 engines take one of 4 AC delco oil filters mainly PF 46 or PF 48 they can also take a PF 61 or PF 63 if you want a tall alternative filter. If you use the large thread on the small thread you have a filter fall off I've seen that mix up happen before.
Saturday morning watch over the other side in Australia 🇦🇺... one of my favourite channels. Cheers Tony and the boys.
Thanks for watching mate! Cheers from the US!
I haven’t checked the listing for that engine but I’d be willing to bet that power rating is based on CNG for fuel. A lot of industrial equipment is rated that way.
No, they aren't
Cracking result. Putting the other motor in your dad's car is a brilliant idea too, can't wait for the next video on that.
Coming soon!
Watching this from Germany with my little mk2 golf in the garage and sulking that we cannot find gems like these here. I am a mopar fan but tbh - with the current prices, I am itching in getting a beater nova shitbox and some ls goodness to throw something like this together, knowing full well I am never gonna be allowed driving this on the street 😐. Greatest show on youtubes guys, seeing you fear anything will explode after first start up rings true to anyone wrenching on their own shit. So relatable and entertaining, you guys rock. Best combo!
your country sucks for gear heads, and patriotic people! between the stalin-esque rules for cars and the flood of garbage people you're screwed
Matt’s the GOAT. I was a bit late to his videos but he was a pioneer in the LS world
I’m just an IT guy with a car problem
Tony, after the struggle bus that was the sea of aftermarket junk for the C6, this was a fantastic turn of events and a real feel good episode. Being able to find a hidden treasure of a powerplant for cheap seems to be next to impossible these days, and felt very - well, there's no other way to put it - "old time hotroddy." I'm not even a C5 fan, but Snowcone has become one of those special project cars that's just fun to watch.
I also greatly appreciated the ~20 minute format of the Tuesday special. Had great pacing to it too - sometimes, it pays to rip the cuts in the edit a bit harder too, and it worked a treat in that video.
P.S.: Funny how a flood-damaged C6 turned out to be A-OK, but all the new parts for it turned out to el garbage-o ready-o.
Every time I hear that dyno max out, I keep thinking of a Don Garlits (sp) dragster blowing up when doing a burnout behind the line. When it blew and Big Daddy was outside the car with the helmet off, he just looked at it and said, “well, when you pull that many RPMs, there is bound to be something you forgot to tighten or twist, or whatever, and then it just EXPLODES all over the place. Better here than on the track at 250-plus miles per hour!!!” Yeah, damned good point!!!
just a little tip on your pre lube pump up deal. Put a Tire valve stem in it around top of it and use the electric air pump to put pressure in to about 35 Lbs and no more pump by hand. was easier. a unibit makes a perfect hole for Valve stem. carry on.
Awesome to see you working with Matt. I have an old Grand Wagoneer with the “dontbsme” sloppy combo. If not for Matt I would never have been able to do it. Would love to see you do a dont bs me build on the channel.
Glad to see this video. After you picked up those motors I went down a rabbit hole. Was thinking of k swapping my brz later down the road and now the gears are turning. 0:37
If you look at one of Richard Holdener's vids, a stock cam 6.0 with Holley EFI , no cat makes 210 HP at 2,800 RPM so the 175 HP rating with accessories, full exhaust, hot coolant and emission tune is about right.
Restrictive intake and small throttle body
@@mostlymotorized actually the stock 87mm TB is plenty for all but the most crazy builds, even the 78mm doesn't hold back any HP. The truck intakes also make nearly identical HP as the LS3 car intakes. There's only 1 or 2 aftermarket intakes that outperform either by more than single-digit HP.
Yup, I doubt there is very much difference between the industrial engines and the car engines - they're just running at a completely different RPM range, and rated as such. After all, that's how you keep these engines as cheap as possible, have as little variance as possible.
@@mostlymotorizedThe intake and TB is no different....
@@hydrocarbon82 agree! a 502 crate GM uses a 48mm tb, same as an old L98. Not sure why so many believe bigger is better? Like overcarbing yrs ago
All the Isuzu box trucks around here have those little turbo diesels. I've never played with one, but I seen some wild stuff from Thailand. They love those little things, they use them in everything. Those river boat things, rice tractors, racing rice tractors, irrigation pumps, drift cars, drag cars, actual box trucks but like, high performance.
Sloppy is the expert on dirty 6.0 power
20:16 What you have is the ultimate budget banger. Wow, I didn't know these engines existed. I want one of these myself. Cam, more ring gap, a little boost, and you're having fun.
Let's go! Friday has started!
Let's GOOOO!!!!
Friyay
Stone: It will rev to the moon.
Tony: Challenge accepted!
Congrats!! Nice to see Sloppy doing his thing!
I love my 6.0 LS2 in my '05 GTO! Port and polished heads whenever I did a tear down all new bearings, cam, rings, headers, K&n FIPK, Gibson mufflers, built T56, and fully tuned myself with HP tuners. I absolutely love that car. But ever since I got my C7 Corvette 3LT, the GTO has been sitting in the garage laying dormant now for almost 3 years. I need to get her cleaned up and take out driving again
Tony’s precision eyecrometer 9:39
HAH, I am pretty dialed.
Speedway motors rocks. Long time customer,,, nothing but praise from me,,tech people do their very best im absolutely sure. Im not the best but definitely a bit knowledgeable on several motor head ins an outs,,,they been great for me,, thanks y'all 😊
46:24 A Stay Tuned drinking game sounds like a rough Saturday morning
This is correct. Just drink LMNT instead!
Great show guys, at least Barb admit it that he did it. That's a real man. Love the show. Keep it up I live in Downingtown. Maybe someday I'll come up? Maybe not
That burnout at the end had me thinking that this is one of the nicest sounding c5 corvettes that I've heard.
Right? I LOVE the way this thing sounds!
I love when right around the oil filter blew off you could tell these guys are like 20 hours into this install. This video is awesome. Nice job guys!
Seen sloppy's Dyno setup, this is gonna be a banger video
YESSIR.
Man you guys are grinding hard. Much respect! I love the down and dirty builds. Your talent and knowledge shines through, as we all know that it isn’t as easy to put cars together this fast without knowing what you’re doing.
In this episode, Barb sets the battery charger to 6V. He then proceeds to install the wrong oil filter. Right when you think things couldn't get worse, he forgets to tighten the pulley bolts. That and more, coming up!
Sweet! You saved the shop. That's got to be the most wicked sounding Isuzu around. Thanks again for bringing us along.
Been subscribed to your channel for a while, love it!
Awesome! Thank you!
Dang robits
What just amazed me is that this channel only has 339,000 subs. One of the greatest car channels on UA-cam!! Thanks guys always look forward to your videos!!!
Thank goodness you have NOT lost the shop.
I was a little concerned about the election this week.
But my biggest concern was you keeping the shop!!
Ha, thanks man! Still got it!
Just make sure you stock up on project cars before we repeat 2020! Covid pricing has just about abated.
@@hydrocarbon82ah yes , covid definitely wasn't an attempt by china to meddle in our elections because they wanted to get a guy they had bought and paid for into power and get the guy out who was sticking it to them .... yeah it was definitely all trumps fault!
to be clear i blame him for giving the sniffles any credibility at all , but the crooks in dc and nyc didn't give him many options! no matter what he did they were going to complain though so there should've never been any "shut down" and the only people who should've had any change would be elderly . we could've stomped through that in less than a year if we just got to herd immunity quickly
Stay Tuned. A double entendre, of great content from great humans, enthusicastic delivery, of awesome content. Thank you for all the money and skillz you present for ALL for our entertainment. You guys are my Saturday moning cartoons, like I wished for all week growing up waiting for the week to end. Pennsylvania is known and remembered to me for great Cheesesteaks, Pizza and Hot Rod people! I was born in Allentown, raised in Chicago, now live in Austin, Texas.
The beater 6 liter is a perfect name for it
It's SO good.
L96 swapped my 2011 Tahoe LTZ. Plug and play. Just get the DOD turned off and a chassis dyno. I have more power and better MPG. Love the channel man. I've been a longtime fan , and you guys are killing it.
Matt Happel was so jealous of those 375 dollar 6.0s. Guaranteed
He liked 'em that's for sure!
I’m partial to 200$ 4.8’s but I wouldn’t say no to these
@@SloppyMechanicsgot two 4.8 silverados 2001 and 03. And another 4.8 in the garage for 250. They are getting expensive from the sloppy tax. You got to make some videos to turn people back to some crappy ford engines to free up the sloppy tax on ls engines.
Cant find 4l80es for less than 750 bucks anymore either here in dallas area.
Those heads are absolutely better than any stock 6.0 heads! LS3 head on a LQ4 which I am almost positive that is what you have and exactly what I am planning on building for my 79 C30. And the absolute bitching part is if you want to get really crazy with the HP you can put a supercharger on that motor. Because with the LS3 head it will fit with the superchargers that came on the Camaros and Corvettes with the LS3 motors. This video just got me super excited! Thanks again 🫡
When changing cams and the engine is on a stand, flip it upside down and let gravity do it's thing. Who needs the stick trick?!
edit: 10 minutes later when you're putting the new cam in you say as much. ✔
Upside down, give the og cam a twirl and yessir, your good to go
The stick does nothing if its not big enough to wedge against the body of the lifter. The lifter only protrudes into the oil galley slightly less than half way. The lobes certainly dont push the lifter up enough to get the stick under it. If that was the case you would have a huge internal oil leak.
@@stevenbelue5496Yes, the stick DOES.... sometimes you have to turn the cam as you're putting the stick IN, so that the lobes that are in the way clear. I've done the stick thing with the engine in the chassis MANY times, and I CAN assure you that it works.
@davelowets the stick does what? The stick definately does not go under the lifter body. The only way it can hold the lifter is if its big enough and just the right size to wedge agaisnt the lifter body. Like i said if the lobe raised the lifter up high enough to get the stick under the lifter body, think about it, you would have a huge internal oil leak because that passage way your sliding the stick into is a pressurized oil galley and if the lobe raised the lifter high enough to get a stick under it you would have zero oil pressure because everytime a lobe hit max lift you would have a huge gapping oil leak internally.
@@davelowets so your saying with the lobe up you could slide a stick in there and make contact with the lobe? Lol, im guessing lobe lift would have to be well over an inch for that to happen which would be impossible cause the cam would not physically fit into the cam tunnel. Thats lobe lift so its not multiplied by 1.7 for valve lift which would be up near 2 inches which it wouldnt have the spring height for. From the cam tunnel to the oil passage(inside edge to inside edge) is probably 3/4" or more so you can kinda visualize how big the lobe would have to be to protrude into the oil galley. Im sorry im being sarcastic but i dont think you really looked at it, and maybe im wrong and im looking like an idiot but i dont think so.
I've been driving a C5 Z06 on the street as a daily driver for 12 years now. I learned more from you guys in this video about the internals of my car than anything else I've seen. Great fun.
Thanks, man! I love hearing that.
Barb is such a goon. Don't get me wrong, I like the guy, but I love giving him shit too. 😂😂😂
Ha, I love to give him shit too! He's the best.
The man is a scholar and scientist
6v Barb for Pres in '28!
Didn’t ever think I’d see Allentown get mentioned for a tuning shop. It’s nice to see my home state have something so close by to help out such a big channel.
The answer to your title....absolutely!
Let's GO!
@@StayTunedTA If the bone marrow is still around you and the Denmah should do a collab build with the spare 6.0 and challenge the F-bomb to a best 3 out of 5 drag race I've always wanted to see a Sloppy build beat up on the F-bomb even if it's fried by the end of it
The last few episodes are my jam. C5s, LS swaps, and there is never enough recognition for The Happel or Tony. I used to be a happy SC guy and life was simple. Now I'll be pushing twins through a rebuilt 6.6 over the winter.
So... I played hookie from my company's 'Winter Gathering' (AKA DE&I 'conversation' for Christmas Party in November... are they serious?!?!) and watched this video (and ordered _real_ pizza instead of vegan 'dry heave' bites and tofu 'you can't serious!' meals) and I was //not// disappointed. Tony, 6v Barb, Stone & crew were non-stop on this and got it done. full stop. Add to that - $375 for an LS that hit pretty much 500hp crank, Way To Go!!!
Let's GO! thanks for watching!
Ah, nothing like a deep dive into workplace politics on a car channel! So refreshing to hear about your company’s wokeness. Truly riveting stuff.
lol 6 volt Barb..
@@travisriddle8747found the woke retard
@@travisriddle8747liberal cringe, quiet down.
I learn so much by watching this channel. I appreciate you taking the time to explain what you’re doing and why.
Btw, HotRod Garage is unwatchable without you bro.
The reason why GM has always been able to make dirt-cheap power from LS engines is because they are THE original universal engine. Before BMW and Toyota's straight sixes, before 500cc per cylinder became standard, before big block engines were a thing, GM had the small block V8. Many industrial truck engines eventually had LS3 heads (or a variant of them) - that's how GM was able to keep the reliability of the engine at that rated RPM and power level while spreading the engineering costs of higher performance over multiple applications. They make such stupid amounts of torque down low that with the right gearing, they're incredibly efficient. The Corvette, from the C5 through the C7, got 25-30mpg at 70mph in top gear and still made 400+ lb-ft of torque. Use an iron block instead and you have an EXTREMELY high duty cycle application.
I just ran into this Oil Filter situation with my LQ4 build in my garage! some of the old filters, IE old adapters and Holley swap oil pans actually use a M1-110A filter not the 2006 and newer M1-113A filters :) lesson learned! i lost my bung during assembly and bought a new threaded portion for the pan which turned out to be the M1-113A so i had to get a new filter.
Post the link for where we can gey $375 6.0??
I was on marketplace and there they were!
Love Sloppy Mechanics. Been watching him for years.
Last time I came this early my gf took the dog and left.
LOL
0 complaints with the LS stuff. Tons of people love them and people will watch the videos. I know you guys will do plenty of videos with other engines as well.
If you've blown up 35 engines within a recent period, perhaps you should consider whether you are as competent a builder as you would like to think. You might just be better at blowing them up than you are at building them.
That essentially looks like an L96 out of the Silverado 2500 with flex fuel. Just detuned for fuel and reliability. I have one in my truck. Replacing the o-ring on the pickup tube and installing pickup tube support girdle will help keep the oil pressure high. I installed a high pressure pump on mine while I was under the truck though and replaced the stupid plastic barbell in the oil bypass. Huge difference in oil availability. Next on my shopping list is a VVT cam and new lifters and springs. I already have intake, headers, exhaust and an HP tuner. These motors are so easy and cheap to play with.
Tony you are the kind of guy I hung out with in highschool you are always building stuff but it never stays together but with that being said I like the show keep it up it brings back old memories
You know its funny, I used to feel like "all LS are the same." But the more I read and watch, the more interesting things I find about this series of engines. They really did a ton with the "same" engine. Different blocks, different uses, compressions, displacements. And I would love to do something with the new series LV1, seems like an awesome little V6.
"I'm afraid to take it anywhere honestly.."
That was quite the sequence of events, the type that starts making you question everything 😂 thank you for sharing it with all of us - you guys are awesome.
My new fav channel! Im old school from Cali but love the down and dirty East Coast hot rodding, keep it up!
17:30 Next time because you have the engine on a stand, just flip the motor over on the stand so the bottom is up. Gravity will hold the rockers into the trays, pull cam and install new one. Dont even have to mess with the dowel rods and zero worry about a lifter falling.
Matt is the man. The no bs me build is the American dream
Matt has done so much for the LS swap community and his recipes and tunes just work.
Great video. Hoping to see the 'garage gym' tees come back in stock
I had a 99 nassau blue C5 hardtop and I loved it. Only 389whp, but 30mph cruising at 75mph too. Never lost my oil filter, that's a new trick.
I always wondered if my favorite PA guys would ever do an episode together . This is amazing .
You guy's are killing it! One of my top 5 right now! I was just in Allentown, I thought I heard some horsepower lol
@6:41 - Glad you all got two at this rate… you need a backup fr
0821 heads should be a rec port but not all of them came with the hollow valves. They used them on L76 6.0's in the G8 and I think GXP as well, but both with an aluminum block. If it's an iron block 6.0 it wouldn't make sense to run those heads as they give up low end to cathedral ports. Likely some mashup of Pontiac or GM selling whatever they had to "industrial" customers. They used them in generators as well. They state the HP low because I'm sure the trucks got whatever GM had to offer and better to understate and overperform since those types of trucks aren't advertised as 300+ HP.