WoW Classic Rogue PVP F.A.Q! Pshero Rogue Guide!
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- Опубліковано 4 вер 2024
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Love this guy, so calm and collected, knows hes good but doesnt have a huge ego.. Explains things very well, easy to follow and understand.
Legend of the game. Haven't seen a better rogue in 10 years easy. And that as Celgon on Sylvannas EU. Guy was INSANELY good.
This is actually the most relevant rogue guide I've seen since release.
Have you tried searching?
@@SwoleBenji ye
@@SwoleBenji Much love Benji. Thanks for the actual guides.
@Joe Franklin Of what?
@Joe Franklin I don't understand. I have low IQ. Explain.
Hey man Honesty you're my favorite player to watch next to shobek and ziqo. Brotha man you're the reason I even have a wow sub. Coffee cheers to you 4 years later man. Working the night shift listening to your guide is phenomenal. Thanks!
:000 I've been waiting a long time for this
master Pshero is here,and novack is here for like,after see decades of wins top rankings ppl,i can call you master sir !thanks for great job!
Thank you :D I am lvl 33 now and it feels so good to be so strong while questing and hunt other alliance players down haha. Greetings from germany
Moin hast du mal lust zusammen zuspielen kann mir auch auf deinem realm ein char machen finde kaum leute die auf langem Zeitraum zocken
@@rage4you68 Auf Venoxis, aber der is denke schon voll :D du musst nur die richtigen auf deinem server finden, nicht die erst beste gilde zB :D
Do a video dueling different classes with commentary :D
Omg finally a pro shows that the annoying combat talents are not the best...as many people think...
I would love it if you did a guide just like this but for modern rogue on retail
thanks for the info! ive always thought of rogues to be using daggers for the ambushes and backstabs. glad to hear im not the only one that mostly targets the squishy players lol
I love you man, been following you for the longest time
FINALLY! MORE ROGUE GUIDES!
This is just a basic FAQ. I think the scuffed rogue guide he did had more relevant info to anyone who has a 60 rogue.
This guide really helps me out ! Thank You Pshero
21/8/22 would be a much better spec. Prep + cold blood for cs, bs, tea, bs, cb, (5cp)ks aka. "thistle bomb"
Does he still run this spec?
those tallents are you still using to this day? 2023 just wanna know if the guide is up to date
Ultimately it comes down to how you would like to play rogue, there's about 50 different pvp specs out there to accommodate to different styles of rogue gameplay
For the purpose of stealthing around in AV and blowing people up in the Field of Strife like Pshero usually does on stream (or pve'ing Belinda & Vann) this spec is fine as well as others including cold blood hemo, cold blood dagger and even combat daggers/sword. Though I do feel once you hit your desired rank and no longer playing the AV meta day in day out this spec isn't ideal, since snares are the biggest counter to a rogue in real pvp scenarios.
16/12/23 - Imp sprint is essential if you're doing warsong gulch against capable players especially if you aren't a gnome, since uptime on target is the most important factor and I feel like you'll just be too easy to peel off flag carriers without it.
Yes vanish works to get out of slows but you're limiting yourself to 2 outs from snares (3 if you have spider belt off 30 min cd), whereas with imp sprint you have 4 outs. You'll find yourself constantly stuck in novas, hamstringed off EFC or caught in a root from a druid, whilst feeling mad because you were about to do massive burst on the target but got peeled off too easily. Using phrases like "Druids are so broken maaan what the fuck" or "I can't afford to be using faps every time i see a druid"
classicdb.ch/?talent#fGx0oxZGcM0bZfMjcc0R - Is an example of how this spec would look, considerations could be made such as 0/5 master of deception for 5/5 opportunity if you just want to do damage.
Though I like the 2 points in MoD for getting into position for a clean sap in group fights or when moving in prior to an offensive push on the efc to sap a healer making it a lot easier for the team to get a kill.
12/17/22 - Then for the higher skill capped players wanting to take on a challenge, imp kick is the step up from that sacrificing some damage for big outplay potential for things like natures swiftness from a druid or preventing a mage from blinking while you take full advantage of a 2 second burst window with backstab thistle tea backstab (countering the two classes you'll find yourself running into the most in WSG premades when used correctly).
classicdb.ch/?talent#fGx0ooZGccbrZfMjcc0k - This is an example of an imp kick build, you're going to be sacrificing a lot of damage from opportunity & lethality, however in proper premade situations your main contributions to team fights isn't bursting a target down single handedly, but being vocal on discord of the EFC's position, using your stuns to isolate the kill target (EFC) whilst cc'ing healers and when you play like this you'll find that imp kick adds massively to the pressure your team is able to push out
Have fun being permanently sapped if you don't have heightened senses.
@@l.christoffersen7502 Or just become quick at using itemrack and swap to Catseye Goggles when you see a rogue stealth
@Big Dawg, do you prefer swords or daggers? I'm leveling my rogue now and i'm torn between the two. I see a lot of top rogues using daggers, LMGD, Pshero, Perplexity (I don't watch many streamers tbh).
@@vIMMENSEv For solo levelling swords is the best just because you're fighting mobs from the front most of the time, dungeon levelling after lvl 40 when you can get Gut Ripper daggers could arguably be better.
But yeah at end game pvp I prefer daggers 100% more than swords, cold blood/hemo with swords is viable just as much as any dagger pvp spec but there's more aspects to think about with dagger pvp which is why I think as you say, a lot of the top rogues are drawn to it over swords since it's the more rewarding spec to play when played well
@@bigdawg2542 Thanks for the response, have a good one :)
mustard deception
Thanks mate!
Hide and seek is very op since every caster has less hit or does have hitcap rn with pvp stuff. As preference: i still need to skill elemental precision even pvp hit capped coz of that ability. Otherwise, the reists are real.
you don't have a very very top tier gear but you still played like a god
thanks for your teaching zen master
Лучший рога на ваниле.
Согласен!
Where can unrecommand to start pvp now? Classic or sod
My master thnks for the guide
Nice guide, captain Pink beard arrr
Thanks a lot buddy!
free action potion frees up sprint points
Love you Pshero
Thank you
Thanks mr Pshero
Thx so much man u need more hype
Awesome video
I'm curious why no MoD? I've noticed few specs use it but I am constantly being seen at a distance by other players and rogues. Heck the archer towers in av can see me while stealthed hehe. Also, what happens when the 3000 frost mages or hunters snare ya?
MoD is for sword pvp. you have to spend extra points into backstab crit for daggers, it's more important than MoD. you have to go to the second tier of the combat tree, while with swords all you need from there is improved gouge. good question tho
I read in the comments people questioning Pshero about this build, when he clearly explains the reason why he takes the talents he picks. Double Crippling Poison, also Pshero - I target squishies, warriors not my priority. Do you mofos listen what he says, or just watch the video?
Pshero is GOD!
Hemmo only sword main dagger offhand
I screwed up the talents where I make to do over again which place
Ty
I actually specced he's talent build, and it was so damn good in both PVP and PVE :D
Thanks.
Which race for Alliance?
Is heightened senses still worth taking if im a human? (we get perception)
Not enough but still thank you
Only useful against mages? Druid root, rogue crippling, warrior hamstring and shout
I think hes saying for bgs.. I use the imp sprint build and I rarely get a good use out of it in AVs and stuff. Been debating on respecing out of it for more points in sub also.. but who wants to waste money for 4 points
But in duels I love having it
@@maxyoinkage5965 idk. He takes heightened senses without any other talent which works in sync with it. Basically still making him lose the opener to every hemorrhage rogue . Just feel like hes memeing at this point
Yea I see what you mean. I usually just roll with goggles if I think another rogue is nearby and most of the time you're gonna lose an opener to a human regardless right?
@@maxyoinkage5965 well yah if theyhave perception up.
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nice video
Do you respec for pve and back to pvp? or do you use that spec for pve also?
I can tell you with this spec you will be top 3-5 DPS in MC if you have the Dagger skill gloves as well :D sometimes even top 1 :)
Yea if you wanna do 60 parses lmao
Pshero, which alliance race/gender would you choose for a rogue?
Human for pvp..
Macros addons and gameplay , Rotation would be nice
What macros ?
anyone know what is that honor addon on the left side?
based
What's the rotation on hemo? Like do I ever backstab or ambush? Because I have to weapon swap each time. I'd only do it once in the opener and that's about it. Any help on that?
Raivazz u dont use daggers with hemo spec
@@bruciekibbutz4698 offhand
niceee
You dont give master of deception points and I can understand because it is for BG.
However, why do you use highten sense without master of deception?
I mean you can't win stealth fights eventually.
U can easily blow vanish while in stealth to get improved stealth if u suspect theres a stealth rogue nearby. Vanish + 2 points of heightened senses can help u to find any stealth target.
@@sc9433 bro, gl on retaking base in arahi, etc. deception is a must, you'll be easily spotted by any class and they will use their aoe spells on you, i am not sure but startingWOTLK it is a must.
@@p4cm4n39 does he look like he's playing arathi basin?
Wonder why he didnt go 31/8/12 assas daggers.. I understand you can get prep but going that deep into assas and not getting coldblood i dont know.
He's not playing hemo daggers...
@@samtherealone i went back over and rewatched.. Still think the classic 31/8/12 dagger build is better for pvp..
@@Mixwell1983 veteren sealfate pvp player back in vanilla here. Ive recently got back into classic, and to my surprise sealfate isnt as great as it used to be. Mainly because the general players nowdays are more accustomed to modern retail wow Arena style of cooldowns spam heavy pvp.
Everyone and every class will literally spam all their cooldowns at you with no hesitation and sealfate doesnt perform well in these situations. To chase up to the modern play style, i would say Prep and deep subtlety is necessary now for pvp rogues because not having it becomes a big disadvantage as u need all your cooldowns to have a shorter cooldowns and the ability to refresh them at will.
seal fat is ass for pvp tbh. you just miss out on so much utility from sublety
I was playing against him with a premade the other day lol do you think perdition blade and labotomizer I want fel striker with perd I have full T1 and T2 helm havnt tried PvP spec before I'm pve spec ranked to 8 in PvP with pve but I'm reluctant to go PvP spec because I havnt done it before so wouldn't know the rotation
only main hand matters, offhand is w/e
niars build is better 4/5 camoflauge so you can gouge restealth and cold blood is good for people with bad gear and no master of deception sucks even with a stealth set you'll get sapped by other rogues 24/7
Why not hemo with daggers?
If u are orc go for 15/3/33
p s hero? :D i always pronounced it "pshero"
ready for shadowlands?
ты красава!
where can i see my hit ? can sombody tell me ?
You don't see it, just do the mats with items/talent and consider weapon skill too
its a good video, but its a stretch to call this a guide
Macros, bro ?
Is orc rouge any good?
yeah man
No go undead I wanted to go undead but it looks ugly so I picked human you can see the gear more cleanly
3:30
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Wanna see how I handle dwarf rogues? Look at my new vid lol it’s in the first clip xD I miss snowballs
I mean really though, is this even a guide….?
Can u pve in that spec?
I know this is not the ideal pve spec but can it still put out enough dps to be viable
it's ok
I can tell you with this spec you will be top 3-5 DPS in MC if you have the Dagger skill gloves as well :D sometimes even top 1 :)
@@hoffyc.h393 damn nice i got the core hound gloves just haven't used em yet gonna try this spec out because im sick of spending 50g everytime raids are done lol
Pshero is british or 'merican ?
Actually I think that he is from Bulgaria ,who knows
yea bulgaria
pshero, the original rogue sinseh i modeled my rogue after.... ps: if only human rogues weren't racially inferior.
Its a lot more than just racial the entire faction is utter trash
On alliance I go human cause i will never play a disgusting race such as dwarf/gnome. you can still clutch with Perception agianst rogues/druids, and you have the increased charisma. in the end, just as you can get R1 with any race on retail, you can get r14 as any race too.
When u gonna play bfa?
Why should he?
Bfa is for snowflakes
Dude do MC and get some real daggers
Pole
Hit "like" if u want Pshero to be high warlord rank
why not use cold blood on daggers?
Cuz you crit so much as a Dagger rogue anyway