It's Finally Here | Death Rope VS Fully Serrated Knife Edge

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  • @grumpyuncle.
    @grumpyuncle. Рік тому +3

    What an honor to receive a communication from a Glesser. You deserved it Gabe!
    You have made a good name for yourself in the knife community!

    • @homeslicesharpening
      @homeslicesharpening  Рік тому +1

      Thanks so much, I feel super honored. Don't even know what to do with it all at the moment. He's a legend in my book. No less now that I occasionally talk to him, haha!

  • @C.Rogers5.56
    @C.Rogers5.56 Місяць тому +1

    I just went crabbing with a buddy of mine off of the coast of Oregon. Unfortunately we lost the very first crab pot that we tossed in due to old rope. So we decided to replace all of the harnesses before giving another crab trap to the bottom of the ocean. First I pulled out my Spyderco PM2. It didn’t go as well as I thought it would. So I grabbed my SOG Seal Pup and used the serrated part of the blade. HOLY SMOKES! Like a hot knife through butter. I decided right then and there that I needed a fully serrated knife for my new found salt water endeavors. Hence…why I’m here. 😂 I can attest to the fact that a serrated knife has a very specific purpose and that it excels at it. Thanks for the education and thank you Spyderco.

  • @Dynotop1a
    @Dynotop1a Рік тому +5

    Sharpening serrations is just a skill like plain edge.
    You can use the corners of some stones if the abrasive covers them, but there are also sharpening rods that Spyderco makes which can sharpen both serrations and plain edges.
    I would recommend the CBN rods and the medium ceramic, for a simple set.
    My best results sharpening serrations so far, including repairing damage, has been with the Spyderco Sharpmaker on a serrated LC200N Spyderco Caribbean. Some models, like the Caribbean, have more mellow and less jagged teeth from the factory. I can typically get them shaving sharp and slicing paper just as clean as a plain edge.
    A lot people on the forums are more skilled than me, though. There’s a lot more to serrations than meets the eye, but I think there are good resources out there that help demystify the steel teeth, especially on the Spyderco forum.

    • @homeslicesharpening
      @homeslicesharpening  Рік тому +1

      So cool - thanks for letting me know. LC200N would be real cool!

  • @blades8284
    @blades8284 Рік тому +7

    I'd definitely like to see a comparison between serrated K390, LC200N, etc!

  • @kevinAuman1
    @kevinAuman1 Рік тому +4

    All things considered this is a very successful design where they've managed to take a steel almost impervious to rusting and put the proper edge on it to make it perform quite well for the knives intended use! Kudos to Sal

  • @danielnarbett
    @danielnarbett 2 місяці тому +1

    I'm riding in a year late here, but as a proud member of 'team serrated' I can say that my serrated Salt 2 with hollow grind does NOT slice cleanly through paper, but my flat grind serrated K390 Delica totally DOES. Great vid btw 😊

    • @homeslicesharpening
      @homeslicesharpening  2 місяці тому +1

      Thanks for the clarification. It's always nice to hear perspectives from a real serrated-knife person!

  • @_BLANK_BLANK
    @_BLANK_BLANK Рік тому +2

    Thats amazing sal reached out!
    Cant wait to see what they sent to test out.

    • @homeslicesharpening
      @homeslicesharpening  Рік тому +1

      There is some fun stuff! I'm still working on stuff donated previously (yours included) but I am amped to test the rest of the stuff from Spyderco!!!

  • @blueswan2175
    @blueswan2175 Рік тому +5

    It does cut paper,but it is through isolation of a single tooth in the serration itself, in my personal experience or if the serrations are small enough. I posted on bladeforums a few years ago my experience with Cold steel serra. I was able to get a few CS knives in the CS serrations at a great price so initially I kind of tried to sharpen one serr. at a time what a pain it was finally I just gave in and sharpened the whole edge like it was non-serrated the results were like a hybrid edge which I ended up really liking because it cuts through cardboard like a plain edge and it also cuts paper like a plain edge but you can feel and clearly see that its a sort of serrated edge,it also outstanding in cutting fibrous material like thick stock rose/flower stems I had a bunch together about 5 in . in diameter(Mexican vacation it was the only knife I had with me) it went through it with no problem and still maintained its edge-so thats my experience and I really love this knife it gave me confidence that I didn't waste my $$ buying a few of these........ just my .25¢ of info -sorry

    • @homeslicesharpening
      @homeslicesharpening  Рік тому +1

      Very cool! Can you describe what you mean? Did you sharpen the flat side of the serrations flat or at an angle? Did you rake the serrations over the corner of a flat stone or use some kind of rounded sharpening implement?
      Very interesting!

    • @blueswan2175
      @blueswan2175 Рік тому +2

      @@homeslicesharpening I just sharpened the side with the serrations I didn't mess with the non show side,honestly the CS serrations are delicate as you may know and eventually they are just like a micro serrated edge I think the steel is either vg1 or aus8 I still carry the knife from time to time its a great user

    • @blueswan2175
      @blueswan2175 Рік тому +2

      also I just used my diamond sharpening stone thousand grit or so.,only time will tell how it all all works out i've only had to touch it up a couple of times

    • @homeslicesharpening
      @homeslicesharpening  Рік тому +1

      @@blueswan2175 Nice - thanks for the response!

  • @dadbodbeeblebrox2565
    @dadbodbeeblebrox2565 Рік тому +4

    Remarkable, I had no idea h1/h2 type steels would respond so well.

  • @vina3451
    @vina3451 Рік тому +4

    I'd love to see you compare different types of serrations such as Veff vs triple point.

    • @homeslicesharpening
      @homeslicesharpening  Рік тому +2

      OOOOhhh, that would be so nerdy and cool. I don't see a lot of CRKT around these parts here in NZ but I'll keep my eyes open!

  • @MFD00MTR33
    @MFD00MTR33 Рік тому +1

    Thats so awesome Gabe, congratulations. Im glad that all the work you've done has been acknowledged and as a result you got more stones and steels to test. Sal Glesser is like a legend to me as you said, a man who's contribution to the knife industry is rivaled by few if any. And yet you see h8m at shows or on the forums and he's just a inife junkie like the rest of us and is down to earth. So cool that you got a chance to talk to him.
    Keep up the great work my friend.

    • @homeslicesharpening
      @homeslicesharpening  Рік тому +1

      Thanks Alex! I have been stoked to meet him, truly!

    • @MFD00MTR33
      @MFD00MTR33 Рік тому +1

      @@homeslicesharpening I bet. The results with the serrations were interesting. I think it'd be cool to see how lc200n, s30v and k390 fully serrated knives would do. Will the wear resistance with these steels be better like with plain edge or is a softer less carbide steel like H2 performs better? Though it's a steel that does better with serrations since it work hardens (from what I've seen people stated the edge is like 65hrc on serrations) so it's a bit different from regular steels.

    • @homeslicesharpening
      @homeslicesharpening  Рік тому

      Yeah, would be super interesting
      @@MFD00MTR33

  • @mikeboyer1114
    @mikeboyer1114 Рік тому +3

    It would be great to see the results from the same test with serrated K390.

  • @computeronzin
    @computeronzin Рік тому +3

    Enough is enough, know your limits. Lately I haven't sharpened any knives because I only notice the limits of my illness when I've gone too far. I always hope to get back to where I was before, but after all these years of being sick, that is an illusion. All I hope is that at the end of my illness there will be some validity left. Glad you are getting recognition for what you do.

    • @homeslicesharpening
      @homeslicesharpening  Рік тому +1

      Oh, I'm sorry to hear that - I hope you get back on your feet again soon. Thanks for your comment!

    • @computeronzin
      @computeronzin Рік тому +1

      @@homeslicesharpening I will get back on my feet, I always make sure of that.
      Staying stable is a challenge, I have been ill for more than 10 years now and my disability continues to deteriorate.
      Not quickly, and it is also very variable, especially when I try to do something more.
      Sharpening the knives is a bonus, I only do that when there is balance and I feel clear.

    • @homeslicesharpening
      @homeslicesharpening  Рік тому +1

      @@computeronzin That makes sense - what is the disability you have?

    • @computeronzin
      @computeronzin Рік тому

      @@homeslicesharpening What I have is called Neuroborreliosis, which once started as Lyme disease and the Borrelia bacteria has broken through the blood-brain barrier.
      I can still do a few things, but I'm a bit at the end, even when I do my utmost to stress my body as little as possible, it's already too much.
      No one knows how it will end, of course I hope that I can keep my independence and for the rest I am positive.

    • @homeslicesharpening
      @homeslicesharpening  Рік тому +1

      @@computeronzin I am so sorry my friend, thank you for sharing. I will pray for you, and I am thankful to receive your comments. I hope you have a good day today.

  • @powersww1reset
    @powersww1reset Рік тому +3

    I would love to see Spyderco, come out with a model, featuring the combination edge, but reversed, with the serrations from tip to middle. Leaving middle to hilt, plain edge. Similar to the Victorinox (trekker? The model escapes me at the moment). The Endura, comes immediately to mind, for this. It will likely never happen, but wow, I believe it would be awesome! Spyderco, currently has, and has always had, the best and most useful serrations on their knives, in my humble opinion. Thanks mate, for the test! It wouldn’t have been proper, without being bitten by the Spyderedge! 🤙🏼

    • @homeslicesharpening
      @homeslicesharpening  Рік тому

      Ah, that's a cool idea!
      What do you find changes in the use of the knife with the serrations out at the tip? I could see where putting them in the curved belly would be better than the flat (where they are often placed) for increased slicing efficiency. And it seems like tasks benefitting from a fine edge would be easier to control closer to the handle (and benefit from a flat portion of edge, also for control).
      Is that kind of what you mean?

  • @Huero87
    @Huero87 Рік тому +3

    I just got Police 4 K390 in Serrated Edge, with the extra blade length, I bet it would blast right through it.

  • @kevinAuman1
    @kevinAuman1 Рік тому +2

    Ahhh yes the legendary Cliff Stamp may he rest in peace 🙏 i had just purchased the gavko S7 tool steel knifechette with orange and yellow handles that he loved dearly from him only 2-3wks prior to him being murdered (according to canadian news) while out on the lake ice fishing... To me that blade is absolutely priceless and i will never ever part with it! There are actually several videos of the knife on here as when Mike made it there was a warp in the blade so he refused to sell it due to this and instead he sent it all around to multiple knife youtubers and told them "do your worst" and it not only survived but it chops like no other blade i own and yes i do use it quite often! But it eventually ended up with Cliff and he made a really awesome video of himself flying through a whole pile of firewood with it the thing is the pure definition of a high performance chopper atits finest lol i own a custom bladesports style chopper in 4V and that cannot even come close to the same performance i really think of the over 1,000 different knives in my collection the knifechette may be my prized blade...

  • @kevinAuman1
    @kevinAuman1 Рік тому +1

    I too had a similar experience when i was able to speak with Mike Stewart of Bark River Knives he left me feeling the same way about him that you did for Sal and obviously he was one of my knife idols prior to our 45min phone conversation then afterwards i ended it having far more admiration for him and his work...

  • @sstein49
    @sstein49 Рік тому +1

    Yay serrated 🎉 , my EDC is a VG10 endela serrated, and it’s insanely sharp, I keep it stropped on a plain leather strop and a round spyderco ceramic, once you figure out the best angle and use the edge of the table or strop or stone a serrated vg10 will stay scary sharp, lc200 imo requires more attention then vg10 when I am cutting dirty hay netting, but a pocket triangle sharpener gets into the serrated blade and whips it back into “ Steve acceptable sharp “
    That kangaroo and ceramic will work harden that H1 , great video hermono
    P.S Sal is a cool guy and he sent me a cool note about my G2 delica ( after 30 years of EDC he had his guys re profile the serration and its like 100% again 👍)

    • @homeslicesharpening
      @homeslicesharpening  Рік тому

      That is so cool about Sal - what an awesome guy. Great to hear from you Steve! Very cool to get some feedback from someone with extensive serration experience!!!

  • @bigaspaulo
    @bigaspaulo Рік тому +1

    I love my serrated Pacific Salt! I've read that H2 work hardens when the Spyderedge serrations are formed, and hold their edge much longer than any plain edge H2 knife. What I can confirm is that, for cuts you make for things to discard (cardboard boxes, weeds/branches, twine or rope), serrated edges are fantastic. Problem is, I carry 2 knives everyday... serrated in my left pocket, and plain edge in my right :) But you know, 2 is 1, and 1 is none! Welcome to the club!

  • @lindboknifeandtool
    @lindboknifeandtool 9 місяців тому +2

    Rip cliff stamp:( he was a legend I really wanted to meet.
    Sal is someone I definitely can. If I could ever get a picture with him I’d be so damn stoked.

  • @JoviAl-wi8sc
    @JoviAl-wi8sc Рік тому +1

    Interesting test and wonderful news that Sal and Spyderco are supporting you 👍🏻 Good things come to good people clearly.
    I believe that blade shape is a modified Sheep’s Foot rather than a Wharncliffe, as Wharncliffe blades usually come to a vicious fine point (like on a Yojimbo/Yojumbo) and are extremely ‘stabby’ (having stabbed myself with great aplomb more than once with mine 😂). I know there’s no tone in these comments but I’m saying this in a friendly way, not being a pedantic comments troll 🙂
    Thoroughly enjoying your videos Gabe. Well done on keeping it clean when you cut yourself too - my youngest son was watching with me 👍🏻

    • @homeslicesharpening
      @homeslicesharpening  Рік тому +1

      Oh, that's a good point about the point! I will concede, you are correct - I suppose as the tip of the knife transitions from acute/straighter to a quarter circle you transition from Wharnie to Sheepsfoot. Some are unclear, but this knife is firmly in the realm of Mod/Sheepsfoot!
      I lose track because they are not my favorite shape so I have not had a lot. Nothing bad about them, they can be really awesome, it's mostly just a taste thing.
      You're welcome! Haha, I try to keep it clean - as a family man myself!
      Cheers.

  • @beggler1872
    @beggler1872 Рік тому +2

    I'd really love to see your thoughts on carrying a serrated knife. I've always found them better for my day to day tasks

    • @homeslicesharpening
      @homeslicesharpening  Рік тому

      I found it to be fun - extremely aggressive. Difficult for food prep though, between the thick edge and hollow grind. Really good for cardboard, and fibrous stuff!
      As I do a lot of food prep with my knives, I don't know if I'll fully convert, but I was pleasantly surprised!

  • @LarsRibe
    @LarsRibe Рік тому +1

    I really like the serrations Spyderco makes. I have two part serrated Spydercos. Can highly recommend.

  • @LarsRibe
    @LarsRibe Рік тому +1

    So.. how do you sharpen those serrations when they eventually go dull?

    • @CSGraves
      @CSGraves Рік тому +2

      Either Spyderco's own triangular sharpening stones, or other gear similarly intended for serrations... DMT's tapered diamond rod hones for example.

    • @homeslicesharpening
      @homeslicesharpening  Рік тому +1

      I don't know! Haha - luckily you have someone experienced to help. Thanks @CSGraves!

  • @william1918
    @william1918 Рік тому +2

    Spiderco's famous sharpener is made for serrations or they have diamond tapered rods that are made for serrations not a lot of money either.

    • @homeslicesharpening
      @homeslicesharpening  Рік тому

      Amazing, thanks! They saw the video and have offered to send me one because they rock 👍🏻

  • @marcmartens4831
    @marcmartens4831 Рік тому +1

    Sounds like an awesome experience. With presents, cool🎉

  • @SpaceDave3000
    @SpaceDave3000 Рік тому +6

    The sharpness test is completely pointless on a serrated blade, the deeper part of a serration which is being tested barely touches the rope, or whatever it's cutting; it's the tips of the serration that do the work, and they will eventually wear away. That said, a serrated knife, love them or loath them, are better than a regular blade for almost every single task you might use a knife for. And will keep a working edge for, more or less, the life of the knife.

    • @homeslicesharpening
      @homeslicesharpening  Рік тому +3

      Interesting! That's a great point, and I can see that the sharpness would be better tested on the portion that bears the greatest brunt of the work. The only problem is that a BESS tester is inaccurate if the portion of edge is too steeply sloped (because the line will slide along and cut too easily) with a flat perpendicular portion of edge being most accurate. Hence the reason I tested in the middle of one of the wider teeth.
      Hmmm... Maybe BESS testing serrations really accurately is not possible. Interesting.

    • @davidjacobs828
      @davidjacobs828 9 місяців тому

      ​@@homeslicesharpening
      OK, " pro tip :
      ???
      You're in no way any kind of professional ...
      Also , have you been shot in the forehead ?
      You definitely don't know what you're doing ...you can barely complete a coherent sentence .
      The fact that you're earning money off UA-cam is just one more in a loonnnnng list of sad indictments on UA-cam...

  • @kaizen5023
    @kaizen5023 Рік тому +4

    Very cool that Spyderco reached out to you, you deserve the visibility! I'm not surprised the serrations did so well, they're fantastic for cutting rope and line of all kinds. If I was cutting rope every day, I'd carry something with serrations. Unfortunately, serrations make a mess of a lot of other cutting chores and/or make them more difficult. You can't just whittle up a marshmallow stick with a serrated blade, and food prep is pretty gruesome if you're sawing through your tomatoes etc.

    • @homeslicesharpening
      @homeslicesharpening  Рік тому

      Yeah, I would agree from my limited experience. If I ever work in a rope factory or on a boat though, you know I'm gonna buy one.
      Thanks for your thoughts, great comment!

  • @BladeLabMiami
    @BladeLabMiami Рік тому +2

    The most surprising thing to me was that the blade wasn't sharper out of the box. I wonder if there was a burr on it, which might explain why there was so little change in the BESS score.

    • @homeslicesharpening
      @homeslicesharpening  Рік тому

      Yeah, it was interesting. Although many blades out of the box have un-removed burr and register in the 200's
      Most factory knives are deburred on a buffing wheel, which could work with the right angle and compound but often seems to leave some damaged metal at the edge in one form or another.
      I do think that the BESS Score dropped by 110 grams and was sharper than from factory when I stropped with the chromium oxide because it removed a little bit of foil burr.
      Thanks for the great comment! Have a good one!

  • @gi_nattak
    @gi_nattak 3 місяці тому +1

    This is exactly why everyone should have at least (and most) one fully serrated knife... in case they need to cut a giant rope! But seriously, I do think owning just one fully serrated blade is a good idea.

    • @homeslicesharpening
      @homeslicesharpening  3 місяці тому

      Haha! Yeah, I would agree. Despite the ludicrousness of this test!

  • @stevenlachance8576
    @stevenlachance8576 Рік тому +1

    Sal grabbed shawn perhaps Gabe is next? Pete has been taken…
    I think this is a brilliant way to keep innovative.
    Michael christy has a great video of serrated sharpening, need a round diamond and a round or slip stone, I’ve bought a kit of 2-10mm rrruby round stones.or your new pal Sal could send you a serrated kit, or just buy some sharp maker triangle stone about $20 each.

  • @nandayane
    @nandayane Рік тому +1

    It isn’t hard for me to believe. Sal is a stand out guy, who is really active online manages the spyderco forums always looking for interesting testing of knife edges. The mule team series doesn’t make money but it exists so we can give feedback, he has an anti-ego. Also ask spyderco to send you a sharpmaker, it will fix that serrated knife right up.

    • @homeslicesharpening
      @homeslicesharpening  Рік тому +1

      SO true, they are amazing. They watched the video and offered to send me one before I even asked!

    • @nandayane
      @nandayane Рік тому +1

      @@homeslicesharpening I think they have recognized the good work that you are doing. SE is a really huge deal for spyderco fans, and a lot of people really love H-1 or H-2 LC200N has a lot of fans as well. I think that through your testing you have validated a lot SE fan’s preferences.

    • @homeslicesharpening
      @homeslicesharpening  Рік тому +1

      @@nandayane It seems like it - I am getting comments from a whole new crowd in addition to the usuals (like yourself - who are also much appreciated).
      Take care!

  • @samuraiS30v
    @samuraiS30v 9 місяців тому +1

    I’d like you to test that knife after I have sharpened it.

    • @homeslicesharpening
      @homeslicesharpening  9 місяців тому

      I would love that. Where do you live?

    • @samuraiS30v
      @samuraiS30v 9 місяців тому

      @@homeslicesharpening Wichita Falls TX. If you can send it to me I can send it back. I’ll put my heart and soul into the edge.

    • @C.Rogers5.56
      @C.Rogers5.56 Місяць тому

      @@samuraiS30v
      Did this ever happen? 😮

    • @samuraiS30v
      @samuraiS30v Місяць тому

      @@C.Rogers5.56 never got the opportunity.

  • @archivist17
    @archivist17 Рік тому +1

    Is the deep part of the serration where we should be testing the BESS? Surely we should take a reading off the points? I'm aware that may be very difficult to achieve, but interested in your thoughts.

    • @homeslicesharpening
      @homeslicesharpening  Рік тому +1

      Haha, I have no idea! This is the first serrated knife I have ever tested. I was thinking it would be good to test in the serrations at the flattest point?
      I'd be keen to hear your thoughts honestly - very outside of my expertise in this video.

  • @Owieczkin
    @Owieczkin Рік тому +1

    Ad 10:15 when I got serrated Cold Steel Tiger Claw I managed to push cut a piece of paper with a single scallop 😁, I don't think I can replicate this after next sharpening though 😅
    BTW Lansky made some croc sticks that help sharpen serrations on Spyderco or Cold Steel

  • @stevenlachance8576
    @stevenlachance8576 Рік тому +1

    Serrated absolutely should cut paper, well sharpened it will whittle hair. Put some coumpound on cheap chopsticks and you have serrated stropping rig.