I saw Black Hawk Down at a young age and it always stuck with me! What are some movies that you remember as favorites growing up!? As always, thank you for all the support and suggestions!
Have you read the book? It’s worth it if you haven’t. Some things were left out of the movie for reasons. To answer your question though the movie was fairly accurate to the events.
Me and my friends love going thru this movie and pointing out how many Fantasy , Superhero and Sci Fi Character Actors are in it. We got: The Hulk,, Reed Richards, Obi Wan Kenobi, Venom, Bane, Jean Luc Picard, Legolas, Lucius Malfoy, Kingsley Shacklebolt, Jaime Lannister
SFC Randy Shughart and MSG Gary Gordon, the two Delta Force guys that volunteered to cover the downed chopper and died doing it both got the Medal Of Honor.
@@wolf99000 reading the book about the battle(its a story put together from interviews on both sides) many of the Delta guys felt that both men were good enough to go in AND get out/hold the line, there were just too many against them
Those two boggle my mind. There's no way they thought their chances of surviving being dropped in there was anything more than 1 in a million, yet they volunteered to do it to try to help that pilot. If that's not heroism I don't know what is...
Do we still have that kind of courage anymore? Does America have anyone who still has a set of functioning balls???? Dear God, I pray that we do because, today, it certainly doesn't look like it.
Tom Hardy, Ewan McGregor, Ewan Bremner, Orlando Bloom, Eric Bana, William Fichtner, Jeremy Piven, Josh Hartnett, Nikolai Coster Waldeau, this film is a literal who's who of people who are insanely famous for their acting careers. this movie is now a 20 year old classic!
Also I didn't notice it the first few times I watched the movie but Ty Burrell the actor that played Phil in Modern Family on TV he was one of the soldiers too.
The thing about Shughart and Gordon going down to defend the second crash site is that it clearly wasn't just instinct or conditioned reflex in the heat of the moment (as some people try to minimized acts of valor). They had a perfect view of what they were getting into, and they even had orders to stay aloft rather than going down to the deck. Their request to go down was denied twice, so they had plenty of time to think about what they were doing and ample justification to back away without losing face. Instead, they persisted until they were finally allowed to go, and they gave their lives protecting Durant. 26:23 Here's an interesting fun fact about this scene. You noticed that Tom Sizemore seems calm and generally walks rather than running and ducking while under fire. Some people criticized his performance for that in this movie, but that's what the real Colonel McKnight actually did. He believed that if the inexperienced soldiers saw him showing fear, they might panic. That's a philosophy British officers have followed for centuries (UA-camr Lindybeige even did a video about it called "British Officers Don't Duck!"). 26:50 The plan was for the men on foot to use the APCs for cover as they walked out, but the drivers hit the gas and left them behind. At that point, they had no choice but to run for their lives to reach the safe zone. The run became known as "The Mogadishu Mile." A grisly epilogue: After the battle, the bodies of the Americans killed at crash site 2 were desecrated and dragged through the streets, and photos and videos of the abused corpses horrified the world. One of Randy Shughart's friends who viewed the body when it was recovered told Shugart's wife that she wouldn't have been able to recognize him.
RE: Not Ducking, the Officer who was played by Anthony Hopkins in Bridge Too Far, kept telling Hopkins NOT to duck; He had to 'show contempt' towards the danger and the Germans.
A "fun" fact is that Mike Durant (the pilot who was captured) was released without any concessions from America, primarily because it was very bluntly communicated to the Somalian warlords that if he wasn't handed over the US would begin leveling the city. To back it up, a full carrier group was deployed to the area along with mechanized infantry and ground attack aircraft, and Durant was immediately released alongside a Nigerian soldier who had also been captured.
@@jethromartin5527 It's why we go in so heavy now. People seem to think that less is more, but a hostile situation like this, you HAVE to go hard and take life to save life. If they had what they needed to threaten and eliminate the men doing all this, innocent civilians and these soldiers wouldn't have died. Not in the numbers they ultimately did.
@@nachgeben "It's why we go in so heavy now. People seem to think that less is more, but a hostile situation like this, you HAVE to go hard and take life to save life. If they had what they needed to threaten and eliminate the men doing all this, innocent civilians and these soldiers wouldn't have died. Not in the numbers they ultimately did." This movie is so frustrating to watch... I know it's a lot of hind sight, but the lack of armored vehicles, the lack of tanks, the lack of superior firepower, that you mention, possibly the naivety of engaging in this kind of urban combat in the first place going easy etc. Maybe even more frustrating than that, is that they still hadn't learned from these mistakes by the time of the Afghanistan / Iraq war, where unarmored humwee's were still being used like this.
@@nt78stonewobble It's different again in Afghan and Iraq though. For the initial invasions the Humvees were 'fine'. It wasn't until the IED's really started popping up that it was an issue. Can you imagine running an MRAP through those streets? Would be a nightmare. Then you have the issue of the populace in Iraq and Afghanistan which were broadly neutral. Going in hard against them just pushes them more towards hostile elements. Tricky to get the balance right.
@@andrewcharlton4053 You're not wrong. It's urban combat its always gonna be bad. Well, in the Iraq / Afghanistan invasions it was a much bigger US force with nearly all types of vehicles and support available. Airstrikes, dronestrikes, cruise missiles, artillery, tanks, apcs and what not. As you say a humvee is fine for eg. Rolling up to the outskirts of a small village and potentially providing long range machine gun support, while troops clear it. Yeah, mraps probably wouldn't have worked here... But the Pakistani had various armored vehicles that, by all appearances did work. Besides I wasn't thinking ied armored or necessarily even rpg, but ak armored. :)
My uncle was one of the pilots at this event, but because he was still active duty when the movie came out, they weren't allowed to use his name. He and Michael Durant, the pilot that got captured are best friends and still close to this day. I always knew my uncle was in special forces, but not what he did til the movie came out. That's when his brother (who's married to my dad's sister) told me because they wouldn't go see the movie because it hit too close to home. That actually inspired me to go into helicopter repair when I signed up for the army. I wanted to be a pilot, but my hearing wasn't good enough. So I figured if I couldn't fly em, I'd fix em.
On May 23, 1994, this was the date that Shughart and Gordon were posthumously decorated with the Medal of Honor for protecting the crew of Super Six Four. They were the first Medal of Honor recipients since the Vietnam War. The selfless heroic act of those two men always makes me cry. Pure courage and balls of steel. Mike Durant is still alive today because of the sacrifice that Gary Gordon and Randy Shughart made. Two of the most elite fighters on planet Earth voluntarily fought until their death to help a helicopter pilot that they weren't sure would survive. That is pure heroism. Deciding to fight and die for someone that might still die even if you performed above and beyond your call of duty.
They kept pushing command to put them on the ground even though they knew they wouldn’t be walking away. That’s the type of shit that makes me tear up.
Michael Durant, the one captured, went to see Black Hawk Down when the theater was empty. Veterans often don’t like crowds so they go when it’s nearly empty. Anyway he sat in the back and when movie was over, he sat there very emotional and when the lights came up, across from him was one of the soldiers from the raid, the one who had his thumb bandaged up. They approached each other, hugged and cried.
I remember watching this with my dad and him commenting on the sound of the RPG’s. My dad was on a patrol in Vietnam and they walked into an ambush in a rubber tree plantation where they were hit with lots and lots of RPG fire and lost a bunch of people. Not long before he died I remember him telling me one morning that he didn’t sleep well because he dreamed he was dodging B40 rockets all night. He had nightmares about RPGs his whole life I guess. Of all the Vietnam movies though, he said We Were Soldiers is probably the most realistic that he’d seen. Y’all should check it out some time.
You want to know another weird fact: there is a shot in BHD right after Pilla is killed and Hoot takes over the "50". One of the Humvees is either hit or has near miss from an RPG round and these 'sparks/particles' spray all over the interior. Later on, I'm watching one of those shows on Nat Geo that feature helmet cam footage of firefights from Afghanistan. One of the vehicles (a heavily armored mine resistant beast of a thing) takes an RPG hit and those same sparks/particles spewed all over the interior of the compartment too. l thought to myself that it looked 'just like' Blackhawk Down'.
When I was in the Marines, a buddy of mine used to go on a 6 mile run almost everyday. He said that the scene at the end of this movie (with the guys running back to the stadium) is what motivated him to do it. He just wanted to be prepared if a similar situation ever arose.
In reality the Rangers and Delta operators did not have to run back to the stadium. They ran to another rally point where there was a second convoy waiting for them.
@@the8series8 The were and are counted as casualties those that died due to starvation and genocide by their own fellow county men should be add to that total as well. That was the Catalyst that set everything in motion for us being over there in the first place. Mohamed Farrah Aidid is no saint as he used food as a weapons and harmed way more than thr US did. As a soldier we do not have the option to pick where we go and sometimes what we do. However, those "civilians" did have an option to fight or not fight. Some chose to fight and those were some of the "casualties". That 'country" if you want to call it that is ran on a tribal system and you cannot compare it to western standards. FYI: Mohammed Farah Aidid went to a military college in Russia and his son was actually in the USMC and was deployed during the relief Aid to Somalia and would tell his fellow tribesmen when and where the food was coming in.
The civilians had the option to fight or not fight, however, a lot chose not to fight and were still killed. Another question is if they were right to fight. The US had a UN resolution behind them, for the people of mogadischu though, their town was invaded. There were reasons why there was a lot of hate towards the UN troops at that time.
I don't know actually. I do not enjoy this movie much, mostly because of their depiction of political Rome, Roman values, Roman history etc. It is not very accurat as an historic movie. But many people like that movie, so I might be in the minority here. Also Scott is a good filmmaker, all his movies are at least decent entertainment. I think
@@mappes1 Was there a reaction where the issues you had with Gladiator were the same? Assuming we actually knew without question what happened thousands of years ago the accuracy would only really matter if this was a documentary.
The weird thing is at the end of the film Eric Bana's character restocks and heads back into town - that actually happened but it was even more insane in real life because he didn't take any weapons at all - instead "Mace" who the character is mainly based on put on a pair of Chinos and a Polo shirt and went back in to find the missing Black Hawk crew guys by pretending to be a reporter. It was so unbelievable they toned it down for the film. I say mainly based on beacause 90% of what is shown is what "Mace" did but he's named after another delta guy "Hoot" who did the other 10% shown. With the film they did that a bit mashing several people together to better serve a narrative. Useless Trivia - the pic of Durant's family is actually Eric Bana''s family because they didn't have a prop but Eric lent them one of his family photos to use.
For Vietnam films I recommend hamburger hill and platoon. But to watch something with a gritty realistic caliber as this and saving pvt ryan is lone survivor with mark Wahlberg.
@@DamonCzanik all movies based on real are "underrated" hollyshit try now to make real movies with fake things in ..like this deep water horizin..( hope the name is right)
Gordon and Shughart were Delta forces, snipers. In basic training, we ran an obstacle course name after them, and it was one of the hardest ones I've ever done. I know of these two guys before I joined the military, but I looked more into Delta because of them and decided that I wanted to go that route. It is not that easy to join, but I had a great recruiter to help guide me on the right path. When I finally got recruited by special forces, it was too late. I was injured, and my career was over.
Another movie based on a true story is The Ghost And The Darkness, where 2 male lions go on a killing spree in 1890' Kenya, and only an Irish Engineer and an American hunter try to stop the threat. Val Kilmer and Michael Douglas star in this Action Adventure Horror film.
The pilot that helped Delta operator Busch to his Little Bird in the first Black Hawk that was shot down was the actual pilot that did it in real life.
The movie doesn’t mention this both because it was classified at the time and because the characters were already confusing but they had members of the Air Force 24th STS (which was who Ty Burrell played) and DEVGRU aka SEAL team Six was present in Mogadishu on CIA covert operation, however they also participated in the Battle.
What happened to Josh's career? After Pearl Harbor and Black Hawk Down, it looked like he was going to become a new Hollywood star and suddenly his career came to a halt or stalled. And the few films in which he acted were of lower quality or independent
Shugart & Gordon: If you live in America, you live in the shadow of giants The guy who played SGT Jeff Streucker (“everyone feels the same as you”) completely nailed it. If you’ve ever seen an interview with the actual man, you can totally picture him speaking to his team like that, word-for-word.
The ridiculous but true story that I love about this movie is that Ridley Scott cast a bunch of amazing stars and actors for all these speaking parts, and when they all showed up on set he couldn't recognize any of them. With their identical costumes , military hair cuts (basically shaved heads) and their camoflage face paint, they all looked identical. So he had the costume department write their character names on their helmets so the audience could tell them apart.
The scene with Shugart and Gordon makes me so sad yet proud to be an American the fact they knew it was a suicide mission and still went in for their brothers in arms is beautiful.
My dad's childhood friend that he joined the military with was Sgt. Pilla and there is a memorial for him in Vineland, New Jersey. Never knew till I was joining the Marines and he told me stories of them together and my dad said that when this all went down his commander called him to his office and said that Dom (pilla) was KIA. Made me serve almost 11 years and makes me hope no one forgets the ones we lost along the way
Child soldiers....damn man hopefully ya never saw them get in gunfights hopefully. Saw a vid from the middle east of a 7-9 year old kid who had at least 2nd to i'm almost 100% positive 3rd degree burns and they were cleaning his wounds with something that hurt the kid like hell. It may have been instagram but damn that kids screams still get me.
The initial operation of 3 October 1993, intended to last an hour, became an overnight standoff and rescue operation extending into the daylight hours of 4 October 1993. In all about 19 hrs
I was in the Marine Corps when this happened I was working Security Forces for a place in Virginia. I remember coming off duty and seeing a bunch of Marines standing in the break room staring at the TV and CNN was showing locals dragging around a dead pilot, desecrating his body. So sad and angering.
Same news moment.. my MSG kicked the tv of the cart and walked out if the room.. the LTC didn’t say shit other than told us to turn on the other TV. MSG was brought up in the Rangers with Gordon..
It was absolutely disgusting what the Somali’s did to the bodies of those men. Much love from Australia, we will always stand behind you my American brothers!!
Hey they misrepresented the Air Force as we were a part of that action. The army medic is actually a Air Force Para-rescuemen(PJ). There were 2 attach to their unit and won the Air Force Cross the only medal behind the Medal of Honor. He is the medic that keeps running across the street to help people. His name was Tim Wilkerson. The medic at around 15:45 is the PJ the link explains the Air Force part in this www.airforcemag.com/article/0694heroes/
If you guys are enjoying the war movies and TV shows, I'd highly recommend Generation Kill. It's set in the 2003 Iraq War, following a Rolling Stone reporter (who was a real reporter) assigned to a Recon Marines unit and depicts the good and bad of that war. It's relatively short at 7 episodes One of the marines in the show, Rudy, is played by himself (the actual marine who served). I believe the adaptation was written by some of the people who worked on The Wire - so it's very gritty and great at pulling you into that world, warts and all...swearing and all too
The guy defending the first crash was named SSgt. Daniel Busch he unfortunately died of his injuries in Germany. He was posthumously awarded the silver star.
It's actually harder to find characters portrayed by actors we've never seen before or don't remember. This is what makes a good movie, not paying a single ego 50 million dollars
Memphis Belle. I was reminded of this gem earlier and made a point of listing it here. Without spoilers, it is about an American bomber crew over WW2 Europe. Lot of recognizable faces from early 90's movies.
One of my favorite reactors and one of my favorite movies of all time. Black Hawk Down : A Story of Modern War by Mark Bowden and In the Company of Heroes by Michael Durant (the kidnapped pilot) are a must read. Randy and Gary will never be forgotten.
Am a Somali i don't know how much of the story they took to make the movie but i can assure you the us have hidden much more casualties than they took it's one of the worst defeats ever coz as far as weapons and military personnel it was a miss match these people were not even soliders the somali people one of the most fearless chaotic people i know to this day and that's not a compliment
I really recommend the book. The event was so much more burtal and crazy than even the film portrays, they actually toned down some of the violence in the film.
The Army Rangers and Delta Force every year Still show respect to the evacuation from Mogadishu every year by running what is called the "Mogadishu Mile."
I would encourage you guys to watch the first medal of honor recipient ever recorded March 4, 2002. His name was John A. Chapman (SGT; United States Air Force). That 10min clip is better than any war movie you will ever see but also one of the saddest. It defines heroism, sacrifice and courage.
We were soldiers, the last of the mohicans (not sure on the spelling), tombstone, young guns, gladiator, the patriot, the last boy scout, the outlaw josey wales, hamburger hill. Just to name a few really excellent movies
The armoured unit that went in to rescue the Americans were not Pakistani, they were the Malaysian Mechanised Battalion. I met the commander of the unit when I was working in Bosnia in the mid 90s. He was commanding the Malaysian Mech Battalion at Livno, BiH. We had a long conversation about their actions that day, unfortunately they are always portrayed as unprofessional and a cluster, they were not. This was the first time they were under fire like a lot of the Americans involved but they were extremely brave given the situation and without them the Americans would have been in an even greater world of hurt. On the way in they were understandably cautious however on the way out if anyone got in their way they ran straight over them. They learnt fast.
The thing to think about is that if Blackburn hadn't fallen out of the helicopter, the mission would have gone off without a hitch. That was the first domino. Because there was a man down and critically injured, they had to spend precious extra time on the ground tending to him, which gave the militia time to get organised enough that they had RPGs ready to start firing at the helicopters. So then Wolcott's Black Hawk got shoit down, meaning they had to stop everything and scramble to cover the rescue on that. Which meant that they needed additional air cover for far longer, with an enamy who had become fully dug-in and were now well equipped. So then Durant's Black Hawk goes down too, and that was it. They were STUCK. All because one man fell out of the helicopter, it all just snowballed ...
The Delta guys are wearing black helmets (as opposed to the camo helmets of the Rangers) making it a bit easier to spot them in scenes. The first chopper that was shot down, the guy who gets shot and keeps fighting is Delta. The guy throwing that grenade through a tiny window - Delta. The two snipers requesting to go down to the crashed chopper alone - Delta. These guys are on another level.
There were some significant changes from real events and certain people were combined together, one was erased almost entirely because of the horrible things they did IRL after this. The film is historical fiction but there are books about what really happened that you can find through Hoopla or in a library.
Ewan McGregor's character was renamed "Grimes" due to the actual Ranger, John Stebbins, being convicted of child abuse and sentenced to 30 years in jail.
That's the difference, some think they are elite and others (Delta) are elite. I think the rangers knew full well that they needed the Delta to get out of this hell. Even before the mission, you could tell what the rangers thought of Delta. It was downright awe. If only this Captain Steele was half as incompetent as shown I would have gotten rid of him as a Ranger or Delta. How did he say something to a Delta, "I won't let a sergeant tell me anything?" Any sensible, good and clever officer would have taken advantage of the Delta's skills and experience. Why does he give away this knowledge? Just because of his arrogance as an officer? Because he was worried or afraid of embarrassing himself again? Because he knew the service regulations better by heart (but that's probably it). He makes an absolute idiot of himself to the Deltas at the barbecue evening (Delta: "that's my backup") and immediately his rangers find out or are experiencing this lost confrontation. These two “experts” in the helicopter who guided the convoy all over the city, or rather caused them to wander. Another difference between assumed and real elite, who leaves protective material (of the bulletproof), water or night vision equipment behind in the accommodation? What kind of idiots recommend this to their young comrades? It seemed to me as if there was only one way to do it. Quickly in and out again, that's how we always did it. However, this use was not “always”. It seems to me that there was no Plan B but only piecemeal. Simply nothing up your sleeve. Without the Malaysian units the disaster would have been complete and there would have been many more American graves. Never let anything like that happen to you again. They are too valuable as people.
This movie never lets up once the mission starts, the documentary that came with the original 3 disc special edition is heartbreaking. Thank you to everyone who has ever wore the uniform for this country.😎
I've never seen this one, but someone once told me it's a lot like one of my favorites, "Bat 21" with Gene Hackman & Danny Glover. 'War isn't always about enemies.'
I usually give the Air Force in general a hard time (they get paid a kind of hardship bonus when they stay in Army barracks & have fairly short deployments...6 months), but he's very much THE exception; the events around his Medal of Honor were recorded by a CIA drone.
Most people don't know the two medics that jumped into the first downed chopper were Air Force Pararescuemen not Army Delta. There are a few good documentaries about it out there to check out.
After the events of Black Hawk Down and Operation Restore Hope in Somalia, the military developed armored HMMWV's to add protection to the vehicle and the gunner
I didn't see uparmored Hummvees until I was in Afghanistan (2006), and that was because they didn't start doing that for the rest of the Army until then.
At 7:11 - it sounds like they're listening to Faith No More - perfect for 1993 - when their first single "Epic" came out in 1990 they absolutely blew up and were part of the leading edge of what was then the 'new Alternative Rock' sound
If you want know about what really happened, you should read the book, "Blackhawk Down" by Mark Bowden. The movie is based on the book. I read the book back when it first came out. I highly recommend it. The author worked hard to get the details right, including the dialog. He personally interviewed many of the actual men depicted in the movie, and recorded each conversation from both of the people in them. I think the movie if fairly faithful to the book, but I haven't done a careful analysis of them, so I don't really know.
Yea the book is really good too.. especially when he describes the parts of what is was like riding in the Humvees. Like a horror story. Packed in like sardines with guys literally trying to hold thier own guts from spilling out of thier bodies while getting shot point blank from both sides of the streets. Also the part where one of the Humvees breaks down and has to litrealy be pushed the entire waay back by the big cargo truck behind it. Being in those Humvees was worse than being in the buildings.
" He personally interviewed many of the actual men depicted in the movie" Just guessing: with "many of the actual men" you are just talking about the US-soldiers. None of the hundreds or thousands relatives of the civilians which died.
@@rastar6569 It's been a *long* while since I read it, but I am positive that Bowden did interview at least one Somali survivor from the battle, and in pretty significant detail. That, along with pretty much anything that served to humanize the Somalis, was cut out of the movie...Hollywood's gotta Hollywood, and they were trying to make a rah rah, shoot-em-up, MURICA! movie. Most of the primary (American) characters in the movie were also conglomerations of multiple real veterans of the battle; again, Hollywood being Hollywood but also done in the interest of time and to reduce the number of people the audience needs to "meet".
@@rastar6569 You'd be surprised. Bowden give a lot more context about the tribal nature of the event and the motivations of the citizens of Mogadishu. It's not perfect but a damn sight better than the movie does.
9:53 In this scene when the little birds land to drop the Delta, Ridley Scott said that the lttle birds kicked so much sand that they can't film anything because everything was obscured by the sand so they had to spray water on that road before they re-shot the scene.
The force consisted of: B Company, 3rd Battalion, 75th Ranger Regiment C Squadron, 1st Special Forces Operational Detachment-Delta (1st SFOD-D) A deployment package of 16 helicopters and personnel from the 160th Special Operations Aviation Regiment (160th SOAR), which included MH-60 Black Hawks and AH/MH-6 Little Birds. Navy SEALs from the Naval Special Warfare Development Group (DEVGRU) Air Force Pararescuemen and Combat Controllers from the 24th Special Tactics Squadron.
I was part of the Marines that arrived in Somalia about 10 days after the Blackhawk Down battle. I was with 1st Battalion, 9th Marines (We were 1 unit of the 13th MEU) and we arrived in October of 1993 and left in February 1994. Our infantry company secured many positions and we worked alongside the Rangers. Some of our platoons used to get mortared every night. I was with a Helo Assault company and I still remember the night sky being lit up with tracer fire as they would hear our helicopters flying above. The heat was miserable and the smell of death was all around. Crazy times....
I dont comment on vids much, but yall have become "go to's" of mine lately. This is one of my favorite movies that not many have reacted to. Super Pumped! Im about to watch now, but im pretty sure you guys loved it.
For an historicaly correct report on that event, read Mark Bowdens "Black Hawk Down", the movie has some changes to the historical events and roles of the characters. The pilot that put in the Delta Snipers, provided and guided air support for them until his helicopter was hit multiple times and had to crash land at a safe place out of the combat zone.
This movie is in my Top10 i absolutely love it. The sniper scene always stuck with me. Knowing they probably didn't have a chance with back up for a while is so badass. Balls of Steel!
The town in the training area of JRTC (Joint Readiness Training Center) MOUT Complex is named "Shughart Gordon" in their honor. It is specifically used for training Urban Warfare and is the second most used training area for the Army only behind NTC (National Training Center) which is focused on desert and vehicle warfare training.
Talk about two legendary badass Metal of Honor recipients. They knew that they were going to died, but they went in anyway. And there are people and gun manufacturers that will recreate their CAR-15 and M14.
Also recommended: Lone Survivor and 13 Hours, both based on real events from a few years ago and very similar to Black Hawk Down, in Lone Survivor also a failed mission, where 4 American soldiers are surrounded and fighting against a hundred Taliban guerrillas in the mountains of Afghanistan, and in 13 Hours, the terrorist attack on the American embassy in Bengazhi, and the struggle for survival of the embassy workers and the soldiers who guarded it, in a kind of battle of "The Alamo", fighting during a whole night, against the terrorists and trying to flee from the embassy and from that country.
Alien Gladiator Blade Runner Black Hawk Down American Gangster Thelma and Louise Hannibal Body of Lies Prometheus Exodus: Gods and Kings Blade Runner 2049
Some missable actors in this movie and their famous role(s): -Ewan McGregor: Kenobi (Star Wars prequels) -Tom Sizemore: Cherrito (Heat), Horvath (Saving Private Ryan) -Wiliam Fichtner: Sandman (MW3) -Glenn Morshower: Overlord (CoD4, MW2), Morshower (Michael Bay's Transformers) -Ewen Bremner: Charlie (Wonder Woman) -Tom Hardy: Bane (The Dark Knight Rises), Eddie Brock and Venom (Venom) -Orlando Bloom: Legolas (The Lord of the Rings), Will Turner (Pirates of the Carribean) -Jason Isaacs: Lucius Malfoy (Harry Potter), Capt. Hook (Peter Pan 2003) -Nikolaj Coster-Waldau: Jamie Lannister (Game of Thrones) -Ron Eldard: John Reilly (Sleepers), Louis Dainard (Super 8) -Ioan Gruffud: Reed (Fantastic Four) -Jeremy Piven: Ari Gould (Entourage)
You guys really have a wicked way to analize movies. I recommend Memento, Intacto, Abre los ojos (the original version of Vanilla Sky), Requiem for a dream, and an Argentinian movie called Nine Queens.
-Wolcott ( Super 6-1) the first Blackhawk that went down was well known in the Spec Ops community. He was one the first ones that flew in to Iraq during Desert Storm. -Jaime Smith ( the Ranger that bled out from the femoral artery) was the son of a well known Army Capt and Ranger as well. -Dominick Pilla was shot and died from a gun shot to the head not the neck. He was one of the funniest guys in his company so I have been told. - Hoot ( the guy that was played by Eric) real name is Norm "Hooten" is a pharmacist now or was with the VA. - Jeff Chaplain, Struecker became an Army Chaplain and served in both wars in Afghanistan and Iraq but is now retired -Tom DiTomasso is now a Colonel and one of the few I actually know.
I saw Black Hawk Down at a young age and it always stuck with me! What are some movies that you remember as favorites growing up!?
As always, thank you for all the support and suggestions!
Please please please True Romance, The Last Boyscout, and Wild at Heart
Have you read the book? It’s worth it if you haven’t. Some things were left out of the movie for reasons. To answer your question though the movie was fairly accurate to the events.
Boogie nights for me.
True Romance, The Ref, Midnight Run, The Mist, The Dead Zone, The Outlaw Josey Wales……so many great movies to watch.😎
Me and my friends love going thru this movie and pointing out how many Fantasy , Superhero and Sci Fi Character Actors are in it. We got: The Hulk,, Reed Richards, Obi Wan Kenobi, Venom, Bane, Jean Luc Picard, Legolas, Lucius Malfoy, Kingsley Shacklebolt, Jaime
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SFC Randy Shughart and MSG Gary Gordon, the two Delta Force guys that volunteered to cover the downed chopper and died doing it both got the Medal Of Honor.
Yeah they knew 100% what it meant to go in and still did true hero’s in every way
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@@wolf99000 reading the book about the battle(its a story put together from interviews on both sides) many of the Delta guys felt that both men were good enough to go in AND get out/hold the line, there were just too many against them
@@Braincleaner irl randy and gordon held our for 30-45 minutes vs 100s of militia , they killed 25 , injured over 70 all with low ammo
Jaimie Lannister won the Medal of Honor? good for him!
“Gordy’s gone man. I’ll be outside. Good luck.”
I can't watch that scene anymore. True Heroes.
Those two boggle my mind. There's no way they thought their chances of surviving being dropped in there was anything more than 1 in a million, yet they volunteered to do it to try to help that pilot. If that's not heroism I don't know what is...
Legendary lads. We will remember them
Do we still have that kind of courage anymore? Does America have anyone who still has a set of functioning balls???? Dear God, I pray that we do because, today, it certainly doesn't look like it.
@@kimberlyhicks3644 Of course we do. It's just that the media likes to hide them and parade the pansies around like they should represent us all...
Tom Hardy, Ewan McGregor, Ewan Bremner, Orlando Bloom, Eric Bana, William Fichtner, Jeremy Piven, Josh Hartnett, Nikolai Coster Waldeau, this film is a literal who's who of people who are insanely famous for their acting careers. this movie is now a 20 year old classic!
Mars attack. That cast is insane too
A Tom Hardy when he was not known
Also I didn't notice it the first few times I watched the movie but Ty Burrell the actor that played Phil in Modern Family on TV he was one of the soldiers too.
Let's not forget "Smalls" from the Sandlot, Tom Guiry.
Me: "Saving Private Ryan had a star studded cast."
Black Hawk Down: "Hold my 🍺."
Band of Brothers has a great cast too. Considering how old it is.
The thing about Shughart and Gordon going down to defend the second crash site is that it clearly wasn't just instinct or conditioned reflex in the heat of the moment (as some people try to minimized acts of valor). They had a perfect view of what they were getting into, and they even had orders to stay aloft rather than going down to the deck. Their request to go down was denied twice, so they had plenty of time to think about what they were doing and ample justification to back away without losing face. Instead, they persisted until they were finally allowed to go, and they gave their lives protecting Durant.
26:23 Here's an interesting fun fact about this scene. You noticed that Tom Sizemore seems calm and generally walks rather than running and ducking while under fire. Some people criticized his performance for that in this movie, but that's what the real Colonel McKnight actually did. He believed that if the inexperienced soldiers saw him showing fear, they might panic. That's a philosophy British officers have followed for centuries (UA-camr Lindybeige even did a video about it called "British Officers Don't Duck!").
26:50 The plan was for the men on foot to use the APCs for cover as they walked out, but the drivers hit the gas and left them behind. At that point, they had no choice but to run for their lives to reach the safe zone. The run became known as "The Mogadishu Mile."
A grisly epilogue: After the battle, the bodies of the Americans killed at crash site 2 were desecrated and dragged through the streets, and photos and videos of the abused corpses horrified the world. One of Randy Shughart's friends who viewed the body when it was recovered told Shugart's wife that she wouldn't have been able to recognize him.
Why is it a "fun fact"?
Great analysis and such a sad story
RE: Not Ducking, the Officer who was played by Anthony Hopkins in Bridge Too Far, kept telling Hopkins NOT to duck; He had to 'show contempt' towards the danger and the Germans.
Terrible thing is Shugart’s wife was a nurse I believe so seeing her husband in that gruesome state would’ve been horrific for her
A "fun" fact is that Mike Durant (the pilot who was captured) was released without any concessions from America, primarily because it was very bluntly communicated to the Somalian warlords that if he wasn't handed over the US would begin leveling the city.
To back it up, a full carrier group was deployed to the area along with mechanized infantry and ground attack aircraft, and Durant was immediately released alongside a Nigerian soldier who had also been captured.
And to think, if Washington had signed off on the kind of firepower during the raid, mike would’ve never been captured
@@jethromartin5527 It's why we go in so heavy now. People seem to think that less is more, but a hostile situation like this, you HAVE to go hard and take life to save life. If they had what they needed to threaten and eliminate the men doing all this, innocent civilians and these soldiers wouldn't have died. Not in the numbers they ultimately did.
@@nachgeben "It's why we go in so heavy now. People seem to think that less is more, but a hostile situation like this, you HAVE to go hard and take life to save life. If they had what they needed to threaten and eliminate the men doing all this, innocent civilians and these soldiers wouldn't have died. Not in the numbers they ultimately did."
This movie is so frustrating to watch... I know it's a lot of hind sight, but the lack of armored vehicles, the lack of tanks, the lack of superior firepower, that you mention, possibly the naivety of engaging in this kind of urban combat in the first place going easy etc.
Maybe even more frustrating than that, is that they still hadn't learned from these mistakes by the time of the Afghanistan / Iraq war, where unarmored humwee's were still being used like this.
@@nt78stonewobble It's different again in Afghan and Iraq though. For the initial invasions the Humvees were 'fine'. It wasn't until the IED's really started popping up that it was an issue. Can you imagine running an MRAP through those streets? Would be a nightmare.
Then you have the issue of the populace in Iraq and Afghanistan which were broadly neutral. Going in hard against them just pushes them more towards hostile elements. Tricky to get the balance right.
@@andrewcharlton4053 You're not wrong. It's urban combat its always gonna be bad.
Well, in the Iraq / Afghanistan invasions it was a much bigger US force with nearly all types of vehicles and support available. Airstrikes, dronestrikes, cruise missiles, artillery, tanks, apcs and what not.
As you say a humvee is fine for eg. Rolling up to the outskirts of a small village and potentially providing long range machine gun support, while troops clear it.
Yeah, mraps probably wouldn't have worked here... But the Pakistani had various armored vehicles that, by all appearances did work.
Besides I wasn't thinking ied armored or necessarily even rpg, but ak armored. :)
My uncle was one of the pilots at this event, but because he was still active duty when the movie came out, they weren't allowed to use his name. He and Michael Durant, the pilot that got captured are best friends and still close to this day. I always knew my uncle was in special forces, but not what he did til the movie came out. That's when his brother (who's married to my dad's sister) told me because they wouldn't go see the movie because it hit too close to home. That actually inspired me to go into helicopter repair when I signed up for the army. I wanted to be a pilot, but my hearing wasn't good enough. So I figured if I couldn't fly em, I'd fix em.
Was he a little bird pilot or a black hawk pilot?
The soundtrack is almost as incredible as the film itself.
Used to listen to that an awful lot drifting off to sleep. Creates a great atmosphere. Very under-rated soundtrack.
@@dirkbogarde44 all of Hans Zimmer’s sound tracks are great
The soundtrack that inspired the next decade of modern military shooter videogames. They've all sounded JUST like BHD's to this day.
Completely agree and especially the song Gortoz a ran by Denez Prigent which is still one of the most emotional songs i've ever heard
On May 23, 1994, this was the date that Shughart and Gordon were posthumously decorated with the Medal of Honor for protecting the crew of Super Six Four. They were the first Medal of Honor recipients since the Vietnam War.
The selfless heroic act of those two men always makes me cry. Pure courage and balls of steel.
Mike Durant is still alive today because of the sacrifice that Gary Gordon and Randy Shughart made. Two of the most elite fighters on planet Earth voluntarily fought until their death to help a helicopter pilot that they weren't sure would survive.
That is pure heroism. Deciding to fight and die for someone that might still die even if you performed above and beyond your call of duty.
They kept pushing command to put them on the ground even though they knew they wouldn’t be walking away. That’s the type of shit that makes me tear up.
True heroes, going into a no win situation just to help their fellow army man.
I saw the first two paragraphs somewhere already 😁
What they did is used as the example for one of the Army's 7 core values, that one being "Selfless Service" or at least it was back in 06 lol
Ya real heroic how American soldiers mow down poor people, Murka! lol
Michael Durant, the one captured, went to see
Black Hawk Down when the theater was empty. Veterans often don’t like crowds so they go when it’s nearly empty. Anyway he sat in the back and when movie was over, he sat there very emotional and when the lights came up, across from him was one of the soldiers from the raid, the one who had his thumb bandaged up. They approached each other, hugged and cried.
I remember watching this with my dad and him commenting on the sound of the RPG’s. My dad was on a patrol in Vietnam and they walked into an ambush in a rubber tree plantation where they were hit with lots and lots of RPG fire and lost a bunch of people. Not long before he died I remember him telling me one morning that he didn’t sleep well because he dreamed he was dodging B40 rockets all night. He had nightmares about RPGs his whole life I guess. Of all the Vietnam movies though, he said We Were Soldiers is probably the most realistic that he’d seen. Y’all should check it out some time.
You want to know another weird fact: there is a shot in BHD right after Pilla is killed and Hoot takes over the "50". One of the Humvees is either hit or has near miss from an RPG round and these 'sparks/particles' spray all over the interior. Later on, I'm watching one of those shows on Nat Geo that feature helmet cam footage of firefights from Afghanistan. One of the vehicles (a heavily armored mine resistant beast of a thing) takes an RPG hit and those same sparks/particles spewed all over the interior of the compartment too. l thought to myself that it looked 'just like' Blackhawk Down'.
@@nickmitsialis “Black Hawk Down looks just like Afghanistan” fixed it for you m8!
@@realburglazofficial2613 Excellent point! I never really thought that perspective, I was only thinking how 'realistic' BHD ended up being.
@@nickmitsialis yeah, as a medic, BHD is one of the more realistic portrayals of modern combat I’ve seen
@@lightup6751 try harder, tovarich.
When I was in the Marines, a buddy of mine used to go on a 6 mile run almost everyday. He said that the scene at the end of this movie (with the guys running back to the stadium) is what motivated him to do it. He just wanted to be prepared if a similar situation ever arose.
That’s smart
Thank you for your service brother
The 10th Mountain does the "Mogadishu Mile" every year on the anniversary.
In reality the Rangers and Delta operators did not have to run back to the stadium. They ran to another rally point where there was a second convoy waiting for them.
Casualties aren’t just the dead, but the wounded, captured, and otherwise MIA; Blackburn would of been the first casualty
Now I understand that flag 👤
One of the Delta operators died in a mortar attack the day after.
It s crazy how the somalian are not casuality
@@the8series8 The were and are counted as casualties those that died due to starvation and genocide by their own fellow county men should be add to that total as well. That was the Catalyst that set everything in motion for us being over there in the first place.
Mohamed Farrah Aidid is no saint as he used food as a weapons and harmed way more than thr US did.
As a soldier we do not have the option to pick where we go and sometimes what we do. However, those "civilians" did have an option to fight or not fight. Some chose to fight and those were some of the "casualties". That 'country" if you want to call it that is ran on a tribal system and you cannot compare it to western standards.
FYI: Mohammed Farah Aidid went to a military college in Russia and his son was actually in the USMC and was deployed during the relief Aid to Somalia and would tell his fellow tribesmen when and where the food was coming in.
The civilians had the option to fight or not fight, however, a lot chose not to fight and were still killed. Another question is if they were right to fight. The US had a UN resolution behind them, for the people of mogadischu though, their town was invaded. There were reasons why there was a lot of hate towards the UN troops at that time.
Your wife loves Ridley Scott, you have to watch Gladiator!
+1
I was just about to comment that, too. Lol. It may become her new favorite film.
I don't know actually. I do not enjoy this movie much, mostly because of their depiction of political Rome, Roman values, Roman history etc. It is not very accurat as an historic movie.
But many people like that movie, so I might be in the minority here. Also Scott is a good filmmaker, all his movies are at least decent entertainment. I think
This
@@mappes1 Was there a reaction where the issues you had with Gladiator were the same? Assuming we actually knew without question what happened thousands of years ago the accuracy would only really matter if this was a documentary.
The weird thing is at the end of the film Eric Bana's character restocks and heads back into town - that actually happened but it was even more insane in real life because he didn't take any weapons at all - instead "Mace" who the character is mainly based on put on a pair of Chinos and a Polo shirt and went back in to find the missing Black Hawk crew guys by pretending to be a reporter. It was so unbelievable they toned it down for the film. I say mainly based on beacause 90% of what is shown is what "Mace" did but he's named after another delta guy "Hoot" who did the other 10% shown. With the film they did that a bit mashing several people together to better serve a narrative.
Useless Trivia - the pic of Durant's family is actually Eric Bana''s family because they didn't have a prop but Eric lent them one of his family photos to use.
The ones with camo covers on their helmets were Rangers. The ones with black helmets were Delta.
We're going to need some We Were Soldiers one day.
For Vietnam films I recommend hamburger hill and platoon. But to watch something with a gritty realistic caliber as this and saving pvt ryan is lone survivor with mark Wahlberg.
I agree. I've never seen a reaction to Black Hawk Down (until today) and We Were Soldiers. Underrated movies.
@@DamonCzanik all movies based on real are "underrated" hollyshit try now to make real movies with fake things in ..like this deep water horizin..( hope the name is right)
I think they should watch Dr. Strangelove as their war movie some day.
"We Were Soldiers" is way better than "Platoon."
Gordon and Shughart were Delta forces, snipers. In basic training, we ran an obstacle course name after them, and it was one of the hardest ones I've ever done. I know of these two guys before I joined the military, but I looked more into Delta because of them and decided that I wanted to go that route. It is not that easy to join, but I had a great recruiter to help guide me on the right path. When I finally got recruited by special forces, it was too late. I was injured, and my career was over.
Thank you for your service MARINE
@@tonyyul703 Thank you Tony but I am Army lol.
The Navy named two of their logistical vessels after them.
@@crash406 that is cool of them. Thank u for letting me know.
In Air Force bmt there is an obstacle course named after the pj that got the Air Force cross at this battle.
Like Mike Tyson said: "Everyone's got a plan until he gets punched in the face."
No plan survives first contact with the enemy - von Moltke
Dutch : I got a Plan it’s gonna be a good one
"punched in the mouth"
“Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth.” -Mike Tyson
Also "only the enemy will show you where you are weakest; only the enemy will show you where you are strongest"
It's like a rephrasing of "No plan survives contact with the enemy."
Another movie based on a true story is The Ghost And The Darkness, where 2 male lions go on a killing spree in 1890' Kenya, and only an Irish Engineer and an American hunter try to stop the threat. Val Kilmer and Michael Douglas star in this Action Adventure Horror film.
Very loosely based
Definite bump for The Ghost and the Darkness
With an *AMAZING* score!
Very underrated movie.
A very good film.
The pilot that helped Delta operator Busch to his Little Bird in the first Black Hawk that was shot down was the actual pilot that did it in real life.
Warrant Officers are some badasses
The movie doesn’t mention this both because it was classified at the time and because the characters were already confusing but they had members of the Air Force 24th STS (which was who Ty Burrell played) and DEVGRU aka SEAL team Six was present in Mogadishu on CIA covert operation, however they also participated in the Battle.
Josh Hartnett is such an underrated actor and he kinda checked out of Hollywood.
I agree!
What happened to Josh's career? After Pearl Harbor and Black Hawk Down, it looked like he was going to become a new Hollywood star and suddenly his career came to a halt or stalled. And the few films in which he acted were of lower quality or independent
I'd recommend "Penny Dreadful", it's a really good series that Hartnett was a main character in.
@@javix2013 the last movie I remember him being in was Lucky Number Slevin with Bruce Willis
Everyone who's met him has said he's a pretty down to earth and chill guy, people like that tend not to stick around Hollywood
Shugart & Gordon: If you live in America, you live in the shadow of giants
The guy who played SGT Jeff Streucker (“everyone feels the same as you”) completely nailed it. If you’ve ever seen an interview with the actual man, you can totally picture him speaking to his team like that, word-for-word.
Mild visual similarity as well lol
On them being calm in the helicopter, in the book there's a bit on how they train. They practice everything, even crashing.
This had a dynasty cast. Tom hardy and Jamie Lannister from game of thrones were here.
And ewan McGregor
@@orangewarm1 no only jaime Lannister i forgot the actor's name.
@@charlesderosas5577 Nikolaj Coster-Waldau
The ridiculous but true story that I love about this movie is that Ridley Scott cast a bunch of amazing stars and actors for all these speaking parts, and when they all showed up on set he couldn't recognize any of them. With their identical costumes , military hair cuts (basically shaved heads) and their camoflage face paint, they all looked identical. So he had the costume department write their character names on their helmets so the audience could tell them apart.
Those two snipers received the medal of honor.
The scene with Shugart and Gordon makes me so sad yet proud to be an American the fact they knew it was a suicide mission and still went in for their brothers in arms is beautiful.
My dad's childhood friend that he joined the military with was Sgt. Pilla and there is a memorial for him in Vineland, New Jersey. Never knew till I was joining the Marines and he told me stories of them together and my dad said that when this all went down his commander called him to his office and said that Dom (pilla) was KIA. Made me serve almost 11 years and makes me hope no one forgets the ones we lost along the way
I remember the first time I was stationed in the Horn of Africa, I never got used to seeing 10 or 11 year olds walking down the street with AK's
Child soldiers....damn man hopefully ya never saw them get in gunfights hopefully. Saw a vid from the middle east of a 7-9 year old kid who had at least 2nd to i'm almost 100% positive 3rd degree burns and they were cleaning his wounds with something that hurt the kid like hell. It may have been instagram but damn that kids screams still get me.
The initial operation of 3 October 1993, intended to last an hour, became an overnight standoff and rescue operation extending into the daylight hours of 4 October 1993. In all about 19 hrs
I was in the Marine Corps when this happened I was working Security Forces for a place in Virginia. I remember coming off duty and seeing a bunch of Marines standing in the break room staring at the TV and CNN was showing locals dragging around a dead pilot, desecrating his body. So sad and angering.
Same news moment.. my MSG kicked the tv of the cart and walked out if the room.. the LTC didn’t say shit other than told us to turn on the other TV. MSG was brought up in the Rangers with Gordon..
It was absolutely disgusting what the Somali’s did to the bodies of those men. Much love from Australia, we will always stand behind you my American brothers!!
Hey they misrepresented the Air Force as we were a part of that action. The army medic is actually a Air Force Para-rescuemen(PJ). There were 2 attach to their unit and won the Air Force Cross the only medal behind the Medal of Honor. He is the medic that keeps running across the street to help people. His name was Tim Wilkerson. The medic at around 15:45 is the PJ the link explains the Air Force part in this
www.airforcemag.com/article/0694heroes/
If you guys are enjoying the war movies and TV shows, I'd highly recommend Generation Kill. It's set in the 2003 Iraq War, following a Rolling Stone reporter (who was a real reporter) assigned to a Recon Marines unit and depicts the good and bad of that war. It's relatively short at 7 episodes
One of the marines in the show, Rudy, is played by himself (the actual marine who served). I believe the adaptation was written by some of the people who worked on The Wire - so it's very gritty and great at pulling you into that world, warts and all...swearing and all too
The guy defending the first crash was named SSgt. Daniel Busch he unfortunately died of his injuries in Germany. He was posthumously awarded the silver star.
The guy who talked about not scaring the children was the dad from Kindergarten Cop
damn I never caught that... thanks internet person.
3 O’Clock High too. He was the bully with brass knuckles.
It's actually harder to find characters portrayed by actors we've never seen before or don't remember. This is what makes a good movie, not paying a single ego 50 million dollars
The medic that entered the first downed helicopter, isn't he the dad in modern family?
@@FaithlessDeviant yeah, Schmidtt and Samantha commented on it
fun fact: the soldier in the school who was separated was the actor who played Smalls in the Sandlot
Memphis Belle.
I was reminded of this gem earlier and made a point of listing it here. Without spoilers, it is about an American bomber crew over WW2 Europe. Lot of recognizable faces from early 90's movies.
I concur
"Memphis Belle" is great.
Yep been recommending this for a long while now. Great movie.
ABSOLUTELY!!!!!
Great movie!
The army recruiter when I was in high school tried to use this as a selling point LOL. But that was in the '90s way before the movie and book.
I have to say I just ADORE how cute you two are when watching. Especially with the hand holding. True love! :)
I think Ewan McGregor’s Grimes is the unluckiest luckies Ranger in the movie. 3 close calls with RPGs and he survived all of them
One of my favorite reactors and one of my favorite movies of all time. Black Hawk Down : A Story of Modern War by Mark Bowden and In the Company of Heroes by Michael Durant (the kidnapped pilot) are a must read. Randy and Gary will never be forgotten.
Am a Somali i don't know how much of the story they took to make the movie but i can assure you the us have hidden much more casualties than they took it's one of the worst defeats ever coz as far as weapons and military personnel it was a miss match these people were not even soliders the somali people one of the most fearless chaotic people i know to this day and that's not a compliment
Solid, intense movie with a large cast. I've always enjoyed Sam Shepard as an actor. It's a shame he's no longer with us.
Agreed. I wish some reactors would watch The Right Stuff.
You guys have to check out the Extended version, it's actually what they showed in the theater.
I really recommend the book. The event was so much more burtal and crazy than even the film portrays, they actually toned down some of the violence in the film.
Even if its recommended, It's still an awesome movie.
I love how slow the RPGs are in this movie. In reality, they are past you by the time you hear them
"No plan survives first contact with the enemy"
The Army Rangers and Delta Force every year Still show respect to the evacuation from Mogadishu every year by running what is called the "Mogadishu Mile."
I would encourage you guys to watch the first medal of honor recipient ever recorded March 4, 2002. His name was John A. Chapman (SGT; United States Air Force). That 10min clip is better than any war movie you will ever see but also one of the saddest. It defines heroism, sacrifice and courage.
We were soldiers, the last of the mohicans (not sure on the spelling), tombstone, young guns, gladiator, the patriot, the last boy scout, the outlaw josey wales, hamburger hill. Just to name a few really excellent movies
"Our man is down behind enemy lines, now what the fuck is the problem?" Favorite line from that one.
Isn't that the movie "Behind Enemy Lines"?
@@rileydd08 😏
I remember now, my favorite quote from this one is: "I Feel The Need… The Need For Speed!"
@@TheBushDownTheStreet Settle down Maverick lol
Eric Bana, an Australian.. started out doing comedy! Can you believe that?!
The thing I always think about is Gary and Randy went in there knowing the chances of coming out alive but did it anyway to help the guys in the crash
Eric Bana was such a badass at the time.
Would be nice to see more of him.
I don't think i've seen him in ages. I loved him in Troy.
Has got to be one of my fave military movies. Such a ensemble cast.
So many future heavy hitter actors.
The armoured unit that went in to rescue the Americans were not Pakistani, they were the Malaysian Mechanised Battalion. I met the commander of the unit when I was working in Bosnia in the mid 90s. He was commanding the Malaysian Mech Battalion at Livno, BiH. We had a long conversation about their actions that day, unfortunately they are always portrayed as unprofessional and a cluster, they were not. This was the first time they were under fire like a lot of the Americans involved but they were extremely brave given the situation and without them the Americans would have been in an even greater world of hurt. On the way in they were understandably cautious however on the way out if anyone got in their way they ran straight over them. They learnt fast.
The thing to think about is that if Blackburn hadn't fallen out of the helicopter, the mission would have gone off without a hitch. That was the first domino. Because there was a man down and critically injured, they had to spend precious extra time on the ground tending to him, which gave the militia time to get organised enough that they had RPGs ready to start firing at the helicopters. So then Wolcott's Black Hawk got shoit down, meaning they had to stop everything and scramble to cover the rescue on that. Which meant that they needed additional air cover for far longer, with an enamy who had become fully dug-in and were now well equipped. So then Durant's Black Hawk goes down too, and that was it. They were STUCK. All because one man fell out of the helicopter, it all just snowballed ...
Nelson: Hey, Twombly! the convoy's leaving! Hey Twombly!
Twombly: What?
Nelson: I think they forgot us!
Twombly: WHAT!?
Nelson: Never mind!
The soldiers that ran out at the end call their run the Mogadishu Mile.
The Delta guys are wearing black helmets (as opposed to the camo helmets of the Rangers) making it a bit easier to spot them in scenes.
The first chopper that was shot down, the guy who gets shot and keeps fighting is Delta. The guy throwing that grenade through a tiny window - Delta. The two snipers requesting to go down to the crashed chopper alone - Delta. These guys are on another level.
There were some significant changes from real events and certain people were combined together, one was erased almost entirely because of the horrible things they did IRL after this. The film is historical fiction but there are books about what really happened that you can find through Hoopla or in a library.
Ewan McGregor's character was renamed "Grimes" due to the actual Ranger, John Stebbins, being convicted of child abuse and sentenced to 30 years in jail.
That's the difference, some think they are elite and others (Delta) are elite. I think the rangers knew full well that they needed the Delta to get out of this hell. Even before the mission, you could tell what the rangers thought of Delta. It was downright awe.
If only this Captain Steele was half as incompetent as shown
I would have gotten rid of him as a Ranger or Delta. How did he say something to a Delta, "I won't let a sergeant tell me anything?" Any sensible, good and clever officer would have taken advantage of the Delta's skills and experience.
Why does he give away this knowledge? Just because of his arrogance as an officer? Because he was worried or afraid of embarrassing himself again? Because he knew the service regulations better by heart (but that's probably it).
He makes an absolute idiot of himself to the Deltas at the barbecue evening (Delta: "that's my backup") and immediately his rangers find out or are experiencing this lost confrontation.
These two “experts” in the helicopter who guided the convoy all over the city, or rather caused them to wander.
Another difference between assumed and real elite, who leaves protective material (of the bulletproof), water or night vision equipment behind in the accommodation? What kind of idiots recommend this to their young comrades? It seemed to me as if there was only one way to do it. Quickly in and out again, that's how we always did it.
However, this use was not “always”. It seems to me that there was no Plan B but only piecemeal. Simply nothing up your sleeve. Without the Malaysian units the disaster would have been complete and there would have been many more American graves. Never let anything like that happen to you again.
They are too valuable as people.
This movie never lets up once the mission starts, the documentary that came with the original 3 disc special edition is heartbreaking. Thank you to everyone who has ever wore the uniform for this country.😎
I've never seen this one, but someone once told me it's a lot like one of my favorites, "Bat 21" with Gene Hackman & Danny Glover. 'War isn't always about enemies.'
That bull that was shot multiple times and still is kicking reminds me of the late combat controller John Chapman.
I usually give the Air Force in general a hard time (they get paid a kind of hardship bonus when they stay in Army barracks & have fairly short deployments...6 months), but he's very much THE exception; the events around his Medal of Honor were recorded by a CIA drone.
Most people don't know the two medics that jumped into the first downed chopper were Air Force Pararescuemen not Army Delta. There are a few good documentaries about it out there to check out.
What's the significance though?
After the events of Black Hawk Down and Operation Restore Hope in Somalia, the military developed armored HMMWV's to add protection to the vehicle and the gunner
I didn't see uparmored Hummvees until I was in Afghanistan (2006), and that was because they didn't start doing that for the rest of the Army until then.
At 7:11 - it sounds like they're listening to Faith No More - perfect for 1993 - when their first single "Epic" came out in 1990 they absolutely blew up and were part of the leading edge of what was then the 'new Alternative Rock' sound
This is a great demo disc if you have a really good home theater. It sounds like there's bullets flying by your head, the sound design is incredible
I saw it at the cinema, I left wondering how so many of them got out alive with all the bullets flying
If you want know about what really happened, you should read the book, "Blackhawk Down" by Mark Bowden. The movie is based on the book. I read the book back when it first came out. I highly recommend it. The author worked hard to get the details right, including the dialog. He personally interviewed many of the actual men depicted in the movie, and recorded each conversation from both of the people in them.
I think the movie if fairly faithful to the book, but I haven't done a careful analysis of them, so I don't really know.
Yea the book is really good too.. especially when he describes the parts of what is was like riding in the Humvees. Like a horror story. Packed in like sardines with guys literally trying to hold thier own guts from spilling out of thier bodies while getting shot point blank from both sides of the streets. Also the part where one of the Humvees breaks down and has to litrealy be pushed the entire waay back by the big cargo truck behind it. Being in those Humvees was worse than being in the buildings.
" He personally interviewed many of the actual men depicted in the movie"
Just guessing: with "many of the actual men" you are just talking about the US-soldiers. None of the hundreds or thousands relatives of the civilians which died.
@@rastar6569 It's been a *long* while since I read it, but I am positive that Bowden did interview at least one Somali survivor from the battle, and in pretty significant detail. That, along with pretty much anything that served to humanize the Somalis, was cut out of the movie...Hollywood's gotta Hollywood, and they were trying to make a rah rah, shoot-em-up, MURICA! movie. Most of the primary (American) characters in the movie were also conglomerations of multiple real veterans of the battle; again, Hollywood being Hollywood but also done in the interest of time and to reduce the number of people the audience needs to "meet".
@@rastar6569 You'd be surprised. Bowden give a lot more context about the tribal nature of the event and the motivations of the citizens of Mogadishu. It's not perfect but a damn sight better than the movie does.
9:53 In this scene when the little birds land to drop the Delta, Ridley Scott said that the lttle birds kicked so much sand that they can't film anything because everything was obscured by the sand so they had to spray water on that road before they re-shot the scene.
I would suggest you watch 13 Hours: The Secret Soldiers of Benghazi. More true events and real American heroes.
Totally agree!
The force consisted of:
B Company, 3rd Battalion, 75th Ranger Regiment
C Squadron, 1st Special Forces Operational Detachment-Delta (1st SFOD-D)
A deployment package of 16 helicopters and personnel from the 160th Special Operations Aviation Regiment (160th SOAR), which included MH-60 Black Hawks and AH/MH-6 Little Birds.
Navy SEALs from the Naval Special Warfare Development Group (DEVGRU)
Air Force Pararescuemen and Combat Controllers from the 24th Special Tactics Squadron.
I was part of the Marines that arrived in Somalia about 10 days after the Blackhawk Down battle. I was with 1st Battalion, 9th Marines (We were 1 unit of the 13th MEU) and we arrived in October of 1993 and left in February 1994. Our infantry company secured many positions and we worked alongside the Rangers. Some of our platoons used to get mortared every night. I was with a Helo Assault company and I still remember the night sky being lit up with tracer fire as they would hear our helicopters flying above. The heat was miserable and the smell of death was all around. Crazy times....
Oooh, I'm early, I'll wait patiently with my drink and popcorn for everyone to get here and get settled.
So much truth in one movie. Ridley Scott is a genious.
I dont comment on vids much, but yall have become "go to's" of mine lately. This is one of my favorite movies that not many have reacted to. Super Pumped! Im about to watch now, but im pretty sure you guys loved it.
For an historicaly correct report on that event, read Mark Bowdens "Black Hawk Down", the movie has some changes to the historical events and roles of the characters. The pilot that put in the Delta Snipers, provided and guided air support for them until his helicopter was hit multiple times and had to crash land at a safe place out of the combat zone.
This movie is in my Top10 i absolutely love it. The sniper scene always stuck with me. Knowing they probably didn't have a chance with back up for a while is so badass. Balls of Steel!
The town in the training area of JRTC (Joint Readiness Training Center) MOUT Complex is named "Shughart Gordon" in their honor. It is specifically used for training Urban Warfare and is the second most used training area for the Army only behind NTC (National Training Center) which is focused on desert and vehicle warfare training.
I heard they held that spot down for a couple hours
Talk about two legendary badass Metal of Honor recipients. They knew that they were going to died, but they went in anyway. And there are people and gun manufacturers that will recreate their CAR-15 and M14.
Something a lot of people don't know is that they completed their mission that day, in spite of everything that went wrong.
Man they never completed their mission
@@thegreatmandera4710 what was their mission?
The only reason Shughart and Gordon finally fell is because they ran out of ammo. They held off the crowd for hours
Also recommended: Lone Survivor and 13 Hours, both based on real events from a few years ago and very similar to Black Hawk Down, in Lone Survivor also a failed mission, where 4 American soldiers are surrounded and fighting against a hundred Taliban guerrillas in the mountains of Afghanistan, and in 13 Hours, the terrorist attack on the American embassy in Bengazhi, and the struggle for survival of the embassy workers and the soldiers who guarded it, in a kind of battle of "The Alamo", fighting during a whole night, against the terrorists and trying to flee from the embassy and from that country.
13 hours the secret soldiers of Benghazi is great
This is my favorite movie of all time. I literally, and I mean literally, have watched this movie close to 200 times.
Tom Sizemore is so Made for War Movies !
“Tell my girls, I’ll be ok.”
Fun fact: this was the same director as alien, gladiator and blade runner.
Alien
Gladiator
Blade Runner
Black Hawk Down
American Gangster
Thelma and Louise
Hannibal
Body of Lies
Prometheus
Exodus: Gods and Kings
Blade Runner 2049
In honor of all our heroes of Task Force Ranger who went down range and never came back. In memory of Garry and Randy who died protecting Super Six 4.
Hacksaw Ridge! ❤❤
Gary Gordon and Randy Shughart both were awarded the Medal of Honor for there bravery.
Some missable actors in this movie and their famous role(s):
-Ewan McGregor: Kenobi (Star Wars prequels)
-Tom Sizemore: Cherrito (Heat), Horvath (Saving Private Ryan)
-Wiliam Fichtner: Sandman (MW3)
-Glenn Morshower: Overlord (CoD4, MW2), Morshower (Michael Bay's Transformers)
-Ewen Bremner: Charlie (Wonder Woman)
-Tom Hardy: Bane (The Dark Knight Rises), Eddie Brock and Venom (Venom)
-Orlando Bloom: Legolas (The Lord of the Rings), Will Turner (Pirates of the Carribean)
-Jason Isaacs: Lucius Malfoy (Harry Potter), Capt. Hook (Peter Pan 2003)
-Nikolaj Coster-Waldau: Jamie Lannister (Game of Thrones)
-Ron Eldard: John Reilly (Sleepers), Louis Dainard (Super 8)
-Ioan Gruffud: Reed (Fantastic Four)
-Jeremy Piven: Ari Gould (Entourage)
iirc Fichtner was also Sully in The Perfect Storm. and Sizemore was also famous (arguably more so) for his role in Saving Pvt. Ryan, but good eye.
Gabriel Casseus (the soldier who was trying not to shoot the woman who picked up the ak) - played god/Eliot's cellmate in Bedazzled
Don't forget Fichtner also played Alex Mahone from Prison Break
YES ONE OF THE BEST WAR MOVIES EVER MADE! THE SCENE THAT THE HELICOPTERS TOOK OFF INTRODUCED KID ME TO VOODOO CHILD AND IVE LOVED IT EVER SINCE
You guys really have a wicked way to analize movies. I recommend Memento, Intacto, Abre los ojos (the original version of Vanilla Sky), Requiem for a dream, and an Argentinian movie called Nine Queens.
-Wolcott ( Super 6-1) the first Blackhawk that went down was well known in the Spec Ops community. He was one the first ones that flew in to Iraq during Desert Storm.
-Jaime Smith ( the Ranger that bled out from the femoral artery) was the son of a well known Army Capt and Ranger as well.
-Dominick Pilla was shot and died from a gun shot to the head not the neck. He was one of the funniest guys in his company so I have been told.
- Hoot ( the guy that was played by Eric) real name is Norm "Hooten" is a pharmacist now or was with the VA.
- Jeff Chaplain, Struecker became an Army Chaplain and served in both wars in Afghanistan and Iraq but is now retired
-Tom DiTomasso is now a Colonel and one of the few I actually know.
"Will that's my safety sir!" That is of the most quoted scenes in any military movie ever.
I mean I kinda doubt that, but I could be wrong.
No, it's definitely "We've got your position, we've got the target, we're inbound HOT!".
thank you for reviewing this guys. you are great ppl, i appreciate it!
In that poll you got Flags of our fathers, switch that to 'Letters from Iwo Jima', highly recommended WW2 movie!
Absolutely agree. Letters is one of the best war movies ever made.