Before few months i made a test here in the oldest town in Europe- Plovdiv, Bulgaria.I put the brown ball on its spot ,3/4 cut to the yellow pocket trying to play it down for the blue with max screw and top spin using 1G and later 3g balls. After playing the same shots many times with each set i came to the conclusion that 1g balls are more lazy and you dont have such positional possibilities like the 3g balls. With 1g you cannot place the cue ball where you can place it with 3g. Also there is a difference in throw when playing shots more than 3/4 cut at slow speeds.And we are talking about plain ball striking !Adding spin makes things very different ! Even Aramith are saying that although they look identical they play different. Stefan ,Bulgaria!
Love the new video quality. Big improvement. Hopefully you can also raise the bar for the audio quality. Small improvements can make a big difference. But let's face it, we are all here for the content, and the content is great. Keep up the good work. Greetings from Grembergen, Belgium.
Hello from Sydney Australia! Just got my set of these (in the shiny case!) today. I haven't had a chance to use them as, and although they were not at all cheap to purchase, the balls at my local club are a real mix up of chipped very heavily used balls. I kind of bought these out of desperation as I noticed at last week's practise, I missed a few fairly simple shots fractionally and noticed some pretty decent chips in the balls (especially the cue ball). As always, great content BFL!
The ball manufacturing is exactly the same by the way, the only difference is they’re sorted at the factory prior to packing and sets made to make a set as close as possible.
I would agree with that assessment. That sorting/ matching is worth something, since it costs them something to do. Whether they bought a special machine, or pay someone to match them by weight.
they could easily have a machine that sorts all balls into separate bins, with each bin having a specific weight. To make a 1g set they would then just pick all the balls from one bin. For the 3g sets they just deliberately pick them from a variety of bins. Simple. Although I do think they're ripping off the customer for a process that costs them pennies. When the GPO (Post Office) was first established, it just charged a single price for all letters. The government insisted that they should have "first" and "second" class post. So the post office had to implement a procedure to separate the letters into their respective classes. Then deliberately hold up the mail for the second class post. This obviously incurred the cost of the staff carrying out this sorting and storing. The cost of this was paid for by the premium of the first class post. So all those people that paid extra for "first class" post were, in reality, just paying to have the second class post held up.
All balls will be measured at the factory as a standard quality control procedure and all they do is round up sets that are close, stick them in a shiny case and bang an extra £90 on the price. In my job I use machining collets and you can buy higher accuracy ones. But these are the same as the standard ones but when machined in the factory and measured they just pick out the ones that are particularly higher quality than the rest and charge more for them. With that being said what you’re paying for here is a higher precision and a higher accuracy and that is certainly worth more money. As the saying goes every time the decimal point is moved over 1 number the price goes up.
We change our balls @ Balsall Common Snooker Club in Coventry every 2 years and the cloths every year. When I first joined the club 20 years ago it was fairly easy to move the white ball about until a visiting player from div 1 complained about it being too light. On further investigation after replacing both sets someone had thought the white balls weren’t white enough in both sets so bought two others that were much lighter in colour and weight. Love the videos 👏🏼👍🏼 Can’t wait till we open again 🍺🍺🍺🍺
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I have both sets, not much difference to be honest. I play with the more expensive ones but that's probably because they're a nice colour but in terms of what they're doing on the baize - nah. A world of difference between the old style that Steve Davis and those before used but between the club and executive set - save yourself the money and buy the cheaper ones because they are a phenomenonal quality. Great stuff BFL, keep it going.
1G’s are (or at least were) available in the traditional TC box, they have a round sticker on the front saying 1G, they’re provided for tournament use. At one time you couldn’t get the 1Gs in the silver box. That said I know that regular Tournament Champion balls are often used at large events.
I've got a set of 1G's in the blue box that were used in the 2017 world championship and the certificate to prove they are. They have the 1 G sticker on the box as well and were used when I bought them for £200
My friend just got a table that came with new perfect condition 3G balls, consisting of brighter reds. I felt that his balls were playing totally differently as the cue ball seemed to spray more. So we got in a gram scale and all of his were within 3g but weighed in from 126- 129 g. My buddy's highest run with his balls on his table was 42 points. We weighed my new 1Gs and they all came in at 142.5 or 142 g bang on. My buddy promptly ran 68 with my 1Gs. We immediately noticed very little 'spray' with the cue ball compared to his lighter balls but for us, it is harder to draw the cue ball back as far with the heavier 1Gs. We also play this game of billiards that we have heard is called Indonesian Billiards where you must got out with exactly 69 points and we have found there is a significant difference with the action of the 2 sets of balls, because a game of Indonesian requires caroms half the time and the angles that the white takes off the object ball is noticeably different. The 1Gs are clearly better.
You are right. On the pro tour they use 1Gs packaged in a standard cardboard box. I use 1Gs myself so when I saw Brendan Moore at World championship qualifying packing away the balls in a box I asked him about them as I also assumed they were Tournament Champion balls.
The 1G set are the same quality as the TC balls, the weights range from approx 138-144 grams. The 1G (gram) set means the 22 ball set can only have a weight tolerance of 1gram between lightest & heaviest ball. The Tournament Champion set has a 3 gram weight tolerance. Plus a nice silver ball case
But it took him 3 sentences to explain the difference rather than 11 minutes video with click-bait title and misleading information 'fake' on the case.
What a load of balls! Very informative and in depth analysis make's your channel one of the best. I'd be interested to know where my local club get their ball's from and whether there mass produced and cheap, compared to the tournament balls.
Value is something neither you nor I can decide for everyone here, but from what I know about most things is this law of diminishing returns, where costs of producing something skyrocket quite rapidly the closer to perfection you want to get. Keeping in mind that if you're buying them for yourself, and the expected lifespan should be from 5-10 years, I think the difference in price over that time period isn't prohibitive. Being prepared on the right set of balls for a big tournament should easily offset the investment.
Hello everyone! Before going ahead with the purchase of new balls, especially if you already own a set of Aramith 1G's and you want those again, since they're are pretty costly, use the Aramith ball cleaner + Aramith ball restorer first to see if you can get them back to looking new again, whichever ones you currently own. If not and only if not then go ahead with your new balls expense. I am in Canada and finding those products on Amazon Canada was pretty easy so I'm sure it wouldn't be too hard for you as well! :-)
Also have both this sets, weight it. Find no any differences, all balls was about 140-142 g. Have aramith practice ball ( looks like "tv cueball" also 142 g), but could not screw it at all. Found 127g cueball from old aramith premiere set( all balls 127, lot easyer screw and rotate). Interesting channel, greatings from my garage (with table) from Arkhangelsk.
Great video and interesting points. I ended up buying the TV set of balls as couldn't justify paying the extra money for a case and not a massive difference.
I bought the 1G set around 9 months ago and for the first 4 months we were not in lockdown. I was able to use the for 6 hours a day 6 days a week constantly. I noticed a significant difference to those of the “club” standard set. They had more weight, grip and the polish of them made them far more easier to see - meaning I could pot more! However, I do understand you may be paying £90 more for the 1G compared to the tournament pro but I feel that over a longer period of time the balls will play abs feel a lot better than them. From my experience the most significant difference between the two are the cue balls. They have slight difference in weight but the actual feel of the shot is much better with 1G.
It says quite clearly on the box that they are exactly the same balls - not heavier! Only difference is that they only have 1gm allowed difference in weight.
@@Breakfromlife Soon be back out bud with a pint and toastie on the go. At least you've got the beauty of your own table man, i've resorted to snooker nation championship on the Xbox. 🙃
Despite the comments below saying otherwise, I do wonder if the resin is exactly the same between TC and 1g, after the observation about gripping the cloth. Weight tolerance wouldn't account for that.
Let me also add that, having played new, top-quality balls vs older ones, I have noticed that I have to play a bit harder to get the same action. I've never had a scale to test mass tolerances, but can definitely feel when one set of balls at a hall feels like a different weight than another at the same hall.
this is why I bought a new set..my old "light" balls i practice at home with play too "easier" compared to league balls ..went for the"regular" 3g but were out of stock for a month..so went with 1g price was right to upgrade..do play different.. hopefully game improves..i think heavier makes any spin you have react more since on cushion that much longer..
2 weeks ago I bought a set of genuine Aramith Premier snooker balls. They are 2.125" diameter and they came in an Aramith green box. I paid $188 American for them which also covered shipping. I am more than pleased with the quality of this set. Here in USA snooker tables are rare. Here in the Kansas City area we only have two snooker tables and both are 5 X 10. Ah such is life. It's all we have. The clubs who have these snooker tables have snooker balls that are in very bad condition; lots of nicks, dirty, faded. So I bought my own set of balls and I think it was a worthy investment. I did go looking on Amazon for a functional hard case for my snooker balls. I found a suitable hard case for about $20. I keep the case/balls in a personal locker at my club. When I'm finished playing I take my balls with me. If others are going to continue playing after I leave they have to use the balls provided by the club - or they can buy their own balls as I did. Anyhow - the topic if this video is VERY much appreciated. Love your channel. I subbed some months ago. You keep it fun as well as instructive.
Interesting view on the types of balls and they roll and wonder if pool balls react the same. Great video and keep up the good work and greetings from Kent uk
@@Breakfromlife they always told me it was due to the weight of the case but I wonder if that’s really the truth maybe they just didn’t wanna risk someone ripping the cloth with the case? I dunno? Great vids dude keep it up 👌
I have these in a box with round 1g sticker on and season used. The pros get a free set every year to practice with so my mate gave me his old ones for my home table. Feel heavier and more grippy like you said on my table but fine on his super fine cloth match table.
I've always been curious about something and have never been able to find the answer. Is it possible to find/buy your own custom 'clear' resin balls? I know American Pool balls can be easily made but I've never managed to find anything about snooker. Would be awesome to see!
Would you be interested in playing Barton snooker a game head to head? We have been commenting on his video asking the same question, and it has sparked alot of interest. It would be fun to watch 😎
It’s a good idea and I would happily play anyone. Although I have a feeling he’s somewhere between a little to a lot better than me. Distance may be an issue but not a problem that couldn’t be solved eventually.
@@Breakfromlife Its not about who's the best. Doesn't even have to be a head to head. I'm sure you guys could conjure up some sort of entertaining video together. I'll look forward to it 😎
@@Breakfromlife I'd only be interested if the result was the least important part of the video. You two playing shots in silence before going back to your corner to watch would be FAR less enticing than if you were talking and having a giggle throughout about the good and bad shots, about how you got to where you are, and the things you still want to improve about your games.
This is a great video. Id love another but adding some other sets. For exampe the super crystale and I keep seeing some cheap ones from china called Xinkang or similar
A couple of years ago they switched back from an aluminium case to a cardboard box but there is certainly a difference. With the new 1g balls there is a maximum tolerance of 1 gram between each of the balls. With the normal Tournament Champion the tolerance is between 3 and 5 grams.
I agree and great video. I really enjoy your videos bro. I think with most flub players it wouldnt make much of a difference. Same here in the U.S. i play at a pool hall....(no snooker tables unfortunately) and they always have new balls from aramath. Great balls. Then theres another place 30 minutes away and they are still using the same balls they have had for over 20 years. The balls are dead. No reaction basically. Balls will skip. I get so many bad hits. The average player isnt really affected. They arent using english so they dont have alot of miss hits. But i have to concentrate so hard not to miss hit because i use english. If not hitting the cue ball dead center youre at risk. They are absolutely terrible. Backspin is so unpredictable. Its frustrating. The players that play there just average players dont notice anything wrong at all. If ou put a brand new set of aramath on the table it wouldnt make a difference to them. I think another good video idea would be......and sticking with this same theme on equipment and if it makes a difference would be table quality. Specs...etc. i notice becauee i play at alot of different places for tournaments that tables are different everywhere. The cloth is a huge one. Theres several different types of cloths they can buy. Some buy really cheap cloth. Its very thick like craft felt you find at an arts and crafts store. Those tables are so slow. Its amazing the difference. When you use backspin it catches so much because it just grabs that thick cloth. Then other places buy high quality cloth like the pros use. And is so wonderful to play on. Again the average player doesnt care or even know the difference when playing on a cheap thick cloth or the better high quality thinner cloth. I notice the balls dont roll straight and true on a cheap thick cloth. A better player uses different speeds depending on the shot. So some they hit very soft. Some medium some hard. When hitting a soft shot on a cheap cloth you can bet that cue ball is not going to roll straight. Some places the tables are not level. Other places check the level regularly on their tables. Rails too high or low. Pockets range in sizes from place to place. The cut of the pockets differ.......theres just so many things about the tables at different places that can affect your play. Id love to see a video about that but you would have to travel to some different clubs to compare the tables. I finally got to play snooker last year as there are no snooker tables within 6 hours of where i live. Its just not popular here at all. But i went to california for the summer. Was so excited. Went to the pool hall my first day there and got right on the snooker table. I quickly became frustrated as i could not pot a ball. I knew snooker pockets were alot smaller. Rounded corners. But eventually after getting so frustrated i measured the pockets because i knew even ronnie would have trouble on this table. The pockets measured 64 m.m.'s. Snooker pockets are supposex to be 86 m.m.'s so basically you could only pot a ball if you were straight on the pocket. Nothing would go in if you were anywhere near the black spot or closer to the rail. It was impossible with the pocket size. You could sometimes pot the black but you had to be perfect. So i really never got to play snooker proper there. It was a terrible experience with the pockets being only about ten m.m.'s larger than the balls. But hopefully ill get to play snooker one day and enjoy the experience. The gwmes were a joke. The highest break i ever saw anyone get on that table was 8 or 10. But usually you make one point at a time unless a ball is right over a pocket. And you still miss those alot. We complained to the place but they refused to fix it. Terrible. But i think a video comparing differences in tables and equipment would be really interesting. And how it affects your game. Omg. Sorry this is so long. Lol.
I'm not sure how it works in billiards exactly but in tenpin bowling, outside of topology of the lane and the oil used (billiards equivalent would be the slate and cloth) the outer cover material of the ball and the way the ball is weighted (with a heavy, often asymmetrical core) massively changes the way each ball feels. I wonder if there is a difference in the outer finish of each sets where maybe the higher end set has a more consistent finish versus the other set.
I think what the price is paying for is the extra work to ensure consistency. They have to chuck away balls that don’t meet the tolerance or run through moulds and so on more often. The other thing is if it’s £90 over year that’s only £9 a year or 3p a day if you play every day.
This is quite interesting. I wonder if the difference is larger on a pro table with its brand new cloth, and where in the work game tolerance is magnified.
I bought a aluminum case off ebay for £13.00 and made it myself to put the round cutouts in the foam and a lower set of balls thats next down to the pro balls you shown there for about £60.00 but they are Aramith balls.
Cheers for an interesting video mate. I noticed the change in the cue ball right away mainly because it was a gram heavier seemed to react more. Ps Snooker Shed lives in Kirkcaldy Fife
I have both sets too and there isn't any difference for me aside from a nice case! Luckily, the more expensive ones came with my table which I only paid £400 for anyway and it also came with an iron so quids in!
I have a set of ATC balls, for which I obtained a hard carrying case. A few other players in the club have these, some have the 1G balls. My set don't vary in weight by more than 1 gram anyway. I'm certain that no one can tell the difference. The main thing other players notice is that mine are polished cleaner than theirs! Another important point regarding marketing etc is that a buyer of a set of balls that has paid almost £100 more for them wants to believe that they are at least a hundred pounds superior, when they're obviously not.
You don't mention micro fractures that will occur with old balls, particularly the white. This would be difficult to test for. Perhaps you could use sound? I would expect new balls to give a sharp crack, and old balls a dull(er) thud. Perhaps, put a heavy smooth object on the table (an anvil) and measure the bounce distance off the anvil. This would be a dynamic test, rather than a static one. Keep up the good work!
Before few months i made a test here in the oldest town in Europe- Plovdiv, Bulgaria.I put the brown ball on its spot ,3/4 cut to the yellow pocket trying to play it down for the blue with max screw and top spin using 1G and later 3g balls. After playing the same shots many times with each set i came to the conclusion that 1g balls are more lazy and you dont have such positional possibilities like the 3g balls. With 1g you cannot place the cue ball where you can place it with 3g. Also there is a difference in throw when playing shots more than 3/4 cut at slow speeds.And we are talking about plain ball striking !Adding spin makes things very different ! Even Aramith are saying that although they look identical they play different. Stefan ,Bulgaria!
This guy is so enthusiastic and aways a great watch aswell its made me think now
Love the new video quality. Big improvement. Hopefully you can also raise the bar for the audio quality. Small improvements can make a big difference.
But let's face it, we are all here for the content, and the content is great. Keep up the good work. Greetings from Grembergen, Belgium.
Hello from Sydney Australia! Just got my set of these (in the shiny case!) today. I haven't had a chance to use them as, and although they were not at all cheap to purchase, the balls at my local club are a real mix up of chipped very heavily used balls. I kind of bought these out of desperation as I noticed at last week's practise, I missed a few fairly simple shots fractionally and noticed some pretty decent chips in the balls (especially the cue ball). As always, great content BFL!
The ball manufacturing is exactly the same by the way, the only difference is they’re sorted at the factory prior to packing and sets made to make a set as close as possible.
I would agree with that assessment. That sorting/ matching is worth something, since it costs them something to do. Whether they bought a special machine, or pay someone to match them by weight.
Balls.
Just like computer CPUs bining
they could easily have a machine that sorts all balls into separate bins, with each bin having a specific weight. To make a 1g set they would then just pick all the balls from one bin. For the 3g sets they just deliberately pick them from a variety of bins. Simple. Although I do think they're ripping off the customer for a process that costs them pennies.
When the GPO (Post Office) was first established, it just charged a single price for all letters. The government insisted that they should have "first" and "second" class post. So the post office had to implement a procedure to separate the letters into their respective classes. Then deliberately hold up the mail for the second class post. This obviously incurred the cost of the staff carrying out this sorting and storing. The cost of this was paid for by the premium of the first class post. So all those people that paid extra for "first class" post were, in reality, just paying to have the second class post held up.
All balls will be measured at the factory as a standard quality control procedure and all they do is round up sets that are close, stick them in a shiny case and bang an extra £90 on the price. In my job I use machining collets and you can buy higher accuracy ones. But these are the same as the standard ones but when machined in the factory and measured they just pick out the ones that are particularly higher quality than the rest and charge more for them.
With that being said what you’re paying for here is a higher precision and a higher accuracy and that is certainly worth more money. As the saying goes every time the decimal point is moved over 1 number the price goes up.
Glad I have insomnia tonight so I can catch your new, informative video! Big love from Canada.
Been a fan for a long time. I don't play, but I do enjoy watching your work. Thanks from WInchester, Virginia!
Huge hello from Martin & Karina from Parnu, Estonia!
Huge thanks for all the tips!
good to see a fellow eestlane around here
We change our balls @ Balsall Common Snooker Club in Coventry every 2 years and the cloths every year. When I first joined the club 20 years ago it was fairly easy to move the white ball about until a visiting player from div 1 complained about it being too light. On further investigation after replacing both sets someone had thought the white balls weren’t white enough in both sets so bought two others that were much lighter in colour and weight.
Love the videos 👏🏼👍🏼
Can’t wait till we open again 🍺🍺🍺🍺
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Came across this channel recently, I really appreciate the work you do for your followers. Hope you will have million subscribers
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Support all the way from Cape Town, South Africa. Loving every video you make!
I can't tell you how much I enjoy your channel, even though you're a lifetime ahead of me as a player..
I have both sets, not much difference to be honest. I play with the more expensive ones but that's probably because they're a nice colour but in terms of what they're doing on the baize - nah. A world of difference between the old style that Steve Davis and those before used but between the club and executive set - save yourself the money and buy the cheaper ones because they are a phenomenonal quality.
Great stuff BFL, keep it going.
Loving the testing videos, Henry from Sheffield.
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Great channel, fell out of love with snooker for a while but this channel has helped find love for the game again:)
Waiting for this video for a week👌🏻 learned alot from Your videos big respect sir Abdullah from Multan,Pakistan
Fascinating video my friend - great job!
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1G’s are (or at least were) available in the traditional TC box, they have a round sticker on the front saying 1G, they’re provided for tournament use. At one time you couldn’t get the 1Gs in the silver box. That said I know that regular Tournament Champion balls are often used at large events.
I've got a set of 1G's in the blue box that were used in the 2017 world championship and the certificate to prove they are. They have the 1 G sticker on the box as well and were used when I bought them for £200
correct!
Using your videos for the past 6 months...Noticed a lot of improvement in my game .Lots of Love ❤️❤️❤️ from Andhra Pradesh, India.🇮🇳
Interesting to know if you’ve worked out why that scares you yet?
@@Breakfromlife Can you please tell me about yips I'm facing. It's been going on for the past 15 days. Please help and any tips to recover from them.
My friend just got a table that came with new perfect condition 3G balls, consisting of brighter reds. I felt that his balls were playing totally differently as the cue ball seemed to spray more. So we got in a gram scale and all of his were within 3g but weighed in from 126- 129 g. My buddy's highest run with his balls on his table was 42 points. We weighed my new 1Gs and they all came in at 142.5 or 142 g bang on. My buddy promptly ran 68 with my 1Gs. We immediately noticed very little 'spray' with the cue ball compared to his lighter balls but for us, it is harder to draw the cue ball back as far with the heavier 1Gs. We also play this game of billiards that we have heard is called Indonesian Billiards where you must got out with exactly 69 points and we have found there is a significant difference with the action of the 2 sets of balls, because a game of Indonesian requires caroms half the time and the angles that the white takes off the object ball is noticeably different. The 1Gs are clearly better.
Lovely video! You are so informative in your videos and explain everything so clearly!
Jacob from Plymouth, England
Greetings from Yuma, Arizona! Awesome videos!
You are right. On the pro tour they use 1Gs packaged in a standard cardboard box. I use 1Gs myself so when I saw Brendan Moore at World championship qualifying packing away the balls in a box I asked him about them as I also assumed they were Tournament Champion balls.
The 1G set are the same quality as the TC balls, the weights range from approx 138-144 grams. The 1G (gram) set means the 22 ball set can only have a weight tolerance of 1gram between lightest & heaviest ball. The Tournament Champion set has a 3 gram weight tolerance.
Plus a nice silver ball case
You just more or less repeated what he said in the vid 👍
But it took him 3 sentences to explain the difference rather than 11 minutes video with click-bait title and misleading information 'fake' on the case.
Will from York - United Kingdom
Keep up the good work!
That moment you think the video is about to end but you realize you're only half way through it.
Love your videos bro ❤
What a load of balls! Very informative and in depth analysis make's your channel one of the best. I'd be interested to know where my local club get their ball's from and whether there mass produced and cheap, compared to the tournament balls.
Value is something neither you nor I can decide for everyone here, but from what I know about most things is this law of diminishing returns, where costs of producing something skyrocket quite rapidly the closer to perfection you want to get.
Keeping in mind that if you're buying them for yourself, and the expected lifespan should be from 5-10 years, I think the difference in price over that time period isn't prohibitive.
Being prepared on the right set of balls for a big tournament should easily offset the investment.
Hello everyone! Before going ahead with the purchase of new balls, especially if you already own a set of Aramith 1G's and you want those again, since they're are pretty costly, use the Aramith ball cleaner + Aramith ball restorer first to see if you can get them back to looking new again, whichever ones you currently own. If not and only if not then go ahead with your new balls expense. I am in Canada and finding those products on Amazon Canada was pretty easy so I'm sure it wouldn't be too hard for you as well! :-)
Non silicone pledge cleaner buffs up the balls just fine
@@mikebest634 It will replace the cleaner but not the restorer though!
Good idea ..but I don't think it helps if your balls have got lighter over the years, especially the cue ball ...or does it ?
@@andrewroberts6975 You're right but that's why I didn't exclude the need to replace balls. I just suggested to use those products first! 😉
Also have both this sets, weight it. Find no any differences, all balls was about 140-142 g. Have aramith practice ball ( looks like "tv cueball" also 142 g), but could not screw it at all. Found 127g cueball from old aramith premiere set( all balls 127, lot easyer screw and rotate). Interesting channel, greatings from my garage (with table) from Arkhangelsk.
i enjoy all of your videos - thanks for making them
Always great videos. Dean from Brisbane Australia 🇦🇺
Looking forward to more accurate trick shots with the new balls 👍
Love your videos pal, watching from sunny Hofu, Japan :D
Great video and interesting points. I ended up buying the TV set of balls as couldn't justify paying the extra money for a case and not a massive difference.
Class video mate, all the best from Joe, Belfast, Ireland
Great video, cheers from Medan, Indonesia ❤
I love the channel. Mad in snooker. Dan from Coventry, UK. Keep it up 😜
I bought the 1G set around 9 months ago and for the first 4 months we were not in lockdown. I was able to use the for 6 hours a day 6 days a week constantly.
I noticed a significant difference to those of the “club” standard set. They had more weight, grip and the polish of them made them far more easier to see - meaning I could pot more!
However, I do understand you may be paying £90 more for the 1G compared to the tournament pro but I feel that over a longer period of time the balls will play abs feel a lot better than them. From my experience the most significant difference between the two are the cue balls. They have slight difference in weight but the actual feel of the shot is much better with 1G.
It says quite clearly on the box that they are exactly the same balls - not heavier! Only difference is that they only have 1gm allowed difference in weight.
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You're Videos always help me to improve my Cueing !!!! ❤️👍 from Jabalpur , Madhya Pradesh ,India !!
Good vid man. Watching these lately has got me itching to get back in the club 🙃 Tom from Middlesbrough.
Yeah I think I played someone once last year. Since March anyway
@@Breakfromlife Soon be back out bud with a pint and toastie on the go. At least you've got the beauty of your own table man, i've resorted to snooker nation championship on the Xbox. 🙃
Always tuning in to these videos from Sheffield (snooker capital city😉)
@@markmascollful tryna get a pin on the map lol
Love your videos mate. Much love from Tasmania Australia
Despite the comments below saying otherwise, I do wonder if the resin is exactly the same between TC and 1g, after the observation about gripping the cloth. Weight tolerance wouldn't account for that.
Love the content mate, cheers. Jason - Sydney Australia.
Lennart, from Hamburg, Germany! Keep up the good videos!
Greetings from Bulgaria 🇧🇬 ,just keep it up! 🙂
Let me also add that, having played new, top-quality balls vs older ones, I have noticed that I have to play a bit harder to get the same action. I've never had a scale to test mass tolerances, but can definitely feel when one set of balls at a hall feels like a different weight than another at the same hall.
this is why I bought a new set..my old "light" balls i practice at home with play too "easier" compared to league balls ..went for the"regular" 3g but were out of stock for a month..so went with 1g price was right to upgrade..do play different.. hopefully game improves..i think heavier makes any spin you have react more since on cushion that much longer..
Much love from Slovenia, Ljubljana :)
2 weeks ago I bought a set of genuine Aramith Premier snooker balls. They are 2.125" diameter and they came in an Aramith green box. I paid $188 American for them which also covered shipping. I am more than pleased with the quality of this set.
Here in USA snooker tables are rare. Here in the Kansas City area we only have two snooker tables and both are 5 X 10. Ah such is life. It's all we have. The clubs who have these snooker tables have snooker balls that are in very bad condition; lots of nicks, dirty, faded. So I bought my own set of balls and I think it was a worthy investment.
I did go looking on Amazon for a functional hard case for my snooker balls. I found a suitable hard case for about $20. I keep the case/balls in a personal locker at my club. When I'm finished playing I take my balls with me. If others are going to continue playing after I leave they have to use the balls provided by the club - or they can buy their own balls as I did.
Anyhow - the topic if this video is VERY much appreciated. Love your channel. I subbed some months ago. You keep it fun as well as instructive.
Love this channel.
Brilliant videos 👍
I'm enjoying your videos - Ade from Truro in Cornwall.
Ur vids are so good man! I’m from Buckinghamshire in the Uk!
6:04 Oh my god, this is last place I'd have expected to see Tyler1's face xD.
Must just be popular with people in Iceland for some reason
Awesome videos man, Love from Malaysia
Great video! Keep it up break from life
Nottingham England 😉
Andy from Belfast - great videos!
Brilliant video much respect from kildare, Ireland
Just got a set of 1G's.
And noticed the same, they don't run through the same.
But they did feel better 😕 😊
@@lukussss1 yes, it’s a bit strange isn’t it? But when you get used to it does feel better you’re right
Saying hi from Halifax, Nova Scotia
Love your channel. Kyle commenting from Birmingham, AL, USA.
Love your channel!! Please do a special edition sometime on three cushion billiards sometime!!
Love and respects from Shahdadkot, Pakistan 🇵🇰.
Great vid loved watching in Chesterfield england
Interesting view on the types of balls and they roll and wonder if pool balls react the same. Great video and keep up the good work and greetings from Kent uk
It would be cool to take these balls to a machine shop where the surface roughness can be measured.
Was also taught from my club, that putting the metal box in the table is detrimental to the table
Definitely, worried me every time I did it but had no where else I could film it
@@Breakfromlife they always told me it was due to the weight of the case but I wonder if that’s really the truth maybe they just didn’t wanna risk someone ripping the cloth with the case? I dunno?
Great vids dude keep it up 👌
@@lewisreynolds5283 Part of it may be tearing the cloth, the other part may be what happens to the slate if you drop a corner on the table too hard
Always Love your videos, Azeem from Sialkot,Pakistan🇵🇰
I love snooker, thank you for your good videos. Javad from ardabil (Iran)
Really interesting as always :)
Big fan from Noida,India 🇮🇳 ...want to ask that is wide tip cue creates better screw shots ?? I find screw shots more comfortable with a wide tip cue
I have these in a box with round 1g sticker on and season used. The pros get a free set every year to practice with so my mate gave me his old ones for my home table.
Feel heavier and more grippy like you said on my table but fine on his super fine cloth match table.
I've always been curious about something and have never been able to find the answer. Is it possible to find/buy your own custom 'clear' resin balls? I know American Pool balls can be easily made but I've never managed to find anything about snooker. Would be awesome to see!
I am no expert in differentiating balls, but I can immediately feel it after playing few shots on a cheap ball.
Would you be interested in playing Barton snooker a game head to head? We have been commenting on his video asking the same question, and it has sparked alot of interest. It would be fun to watch 😎
It’s a good idea and I would happily play anyone. Although I have a feeling he’s somewhere between a little to a lot better than me. Distance may be an issue but not a problem that couldn’t be solved eventually.
@@Breakfromlife Its not about who's the best. Doesn't even have to be a head to head. I'm sure you guys could conjure up some sort of entertaining video together. I'll look forward to it 😎
@@Breakfromlife I'd only be interested if the result was the least important part of the video. You two playing shots in silence before going back to your corner to watch would be FAR less enticing than if you were talking and having a giggle throughout about the good and bad shots, about how you got to where you are, and the things you still want to improve about your games.
always enjoy the video's. ken from Ravenshead.
This is a great video. Id love another but adding some other sets. For exampe the super crystale and I keep seeing some cheap ones from china called Xinkang or similar
A couple of years ago they switched back from an aluminium case to a cardboard box but there is certainly a difference. With the new 1g balls there is a maximum tolerance of 1 gram between each of the balls. With the normal Tournament Champion the tolerance is between 3 and 5 grams.
Enjoyed the video
I don't think I've ever seen a review of snooker balls before
Where did you get your 100 year old billiard balls?
Honestly I don’t know weirdly I think they were my mums toys at some point. Doesn’t make sense really but she was born in the 50’s
I agree and great video. I really enjoy your videos bro. I think with most flub players it wouldnt make much of a difference. Same here in the U.S. i play at a pool hall....(no snooker tables unfortunately) and they always have new balls from aramath. Great balls. Then theres another place 30 minutes away and they are still using the same balls they have had for over 20 years. The balls are dead. No reaction basically. Balls will skip. I get so many bad hits. The average player isnt really affected. They arent using english so they dont have alot of miss hits. But i have to concentrate so hard not to miss hit because i use english. If not hitting the cue ball dead center youre at risk. They are absolutely terrible. Backspin is so unpredictable. Its frustrating. The players that play there just average players dont notice anything wrong at all. If ou put a brand new set of aramath on the table it wouldnt make a difference to them. I think another good video idea would be......and sticking with this same theme on equipment and if it makes a difference would be table quality. Specs...etc. i notice becauee i play at alot of different places for tournaments that tables are different everywhere. The cloth is a huge one. Theres several different types of cloths they can buy. Some buy really cheap cloth. Its very thick like craft felt you find at an arts and crafts store. Those tables are so slow. Its amazing the difference. When you use backspin it catches so much because it just grabs that thick cloth. Then other places buy high quality cloth like the pros use. And is so wonderful to play on. Again the average player doesnt care or even know the difference when playing on a cheap thick cloth or the better high quality thinner cloth. I notice the balls dont roll straight and true on a cheap thick cloth. A better player uses different speeds depending on the shot. So some they hit very soft. Some medium some hard. When hitting a soft shot on a cheap cloth you can bet that cue ball is not going to roll straight. Some places the tables are not level. Other places check the level regularly on their tables. Rails too high or low. Pockets range in sizes from place to place. The cut of the pockets differ.......theres just so many things about the tables at different places that can affect your play. Id love to see a video about that but you would have to travel to some different clubs to compare the tables. I finally got to play snooker last year as there are no snooker tables within 6 hours of where i live. Its just not popular here at all. But i went to california for the summer. Was so excited. Went to the pool hall my first day there and got right on the snooker table. I quickly became frustrated as i could not pot a ball. I knew snooker pockets were alot smaller. Rounded corners. But eventually after getting so frustrated i measured the pockets because i knew even ronnie would have trouble on this table. The pockets measured 64 m.m.'s. Snooker pockets are supposex to be 86 m.m.'s so basically you could only pot a ball if you were straight on the pocket. Nothing would go in if you were anywhere near the black spot or closer to the rail. It was impossible with the pocket size. You could sometimes pot the black but you had to be perfect. So i really never got to play snooker proper there. It was a terrible experience with the pockets being only about ten m.m.'s larger than the balls. But hopefully ill get to play snooker one day and enjoy the experience. The gwmes were a joke. The highest break i ever saw anyone get on that table was 8 or 10. But usually you make one point at a time unless a ball is right over a pocket. And you still miss those alot. We complained to the place but they refused to fix it. Terrible. But i think a video comparing differences in tables and equipment would be really interesting. And how it affects your game. Omg. Sorry this is so long. Lol.
I'm not sure how it works in billiards exactly but in tenpin bowling, outside of topology of the lane and the oil used (billiards equivalent would be the slate and cloth) the outer cover material of the ball and the way the ball is weighted (with a heavy, often asymmetrical core) massively changes the way each ball feels. I wonder if there is a difference in the outer finish of each sets where maybe the higher end set has a more consistent finish versus the other set.
I think what the price is paying for is the extra work to ensure consistency. They have to chuck away balls that don’t meet the tolerance or run through moulds and so on more often.
The other thing is if it’s £90 over year that’s only £9 a year or 3p a day if you play every day.
WOW cool video, i dont have a snooker table but i like to watch it:D Helo from Switzerland
Good information mate💯🍀🚀
Good review, from Jersey City, NJ, USA
This is quite interesting. I wonder if the difference is larger on a pro table with its brand new cloth, and where in the work game tolerance is magnified.
I bought a aluminum case off ebay for £13.00 and made it myself to put the round cutouts in the foam and a lower set of balls thats next down to the pro balls you shown there for about £60.00 but they are Aramith balls.
Love you videos, Yasser from Safi Morocco
Luis from Hong Kong p- I love your videos so I get better at snooker
Fascinating to learn about. And I don't even play snooker.
Cheers for an interesting video mate.
I noticed the change in the cue ball right away mainly because it was a gram heavier seemed to react more.
Ps Snooker Shed lives in Kirkcaldy Fife
I have both sets too and there isn't any difference for me aside from a nice case! Luckily, the more expensive ones came with my table which I only paid £400 for anyway and it also came with an iron so quids in!
G'day from Gorran Haven, Cornwall. I'm interested in knowing what level you play at when you play tournaments as you look like a very good player.
Hello from Hobart, Tasmania, Australia!
Can you do a video about cue's and how to get a cue smooth or non dragging on the thumb please? Every cue I own starts to drag after a while.
I have a set of ATC balls, for which I obtained a hard carrying case. A few other players in the club have these, some have the 1G balls. My set don't vary in weight by more than 1 gram anyway. I'm certain that no one can tell the difference. The main thing other players notice is that mine are polished cleaner than theirs!
Another important point regarding marketing etc is that a buyer of a set of balls that has paid almost £100 more for them wants to believe that they are at least a hundred pounds superior, when they're obviously not.
You don't mention micro fractures that will occur with old balls, particularly the white. This would be difficult to test for. Perhaps you could use sound? I would expect new balls to give a sharp crack, and old balls a dull(er) thud. Perhaps, put a heavy smooth object on the table (an anvil) and measure the bounce distance off the anvil. This would be a dynamic test, rather than a static one. Keep up the good work!
Love the content ❤️ from Glasgow Scotland so not that far :)