Loved this, thanks! I live in South Africa and I've hunted South Africa and Botswana with my father's 7x57 and .375 Wby Mag since I was a young boy! Got a .270 for my 15th (if I remember correctly) birthday after hours and hours of research on which caliber I wanted. I'm a massive 156gr Sako Hammerhead fanboy in the .270, it's served me very well in the past 8 years that I've had the rifle, even on blue wildebeest and eland. Love all three of those rifles. Shot a sable bull with the .375 in 2021 and fell in love with it all over again. We shoot .375 H&H ammo in the .375 Wby Mag, agree completely with the lower velocity being more effective. Would love to build a .404 Jeff one day when I can afford it. Cheers gents, looking forward to the next one!
When I originally wrote the following I meant it as a general comment to the video and not just as a reply to the gentleman writing about the 270 and 375 Weatherby. I’m utube technically challenged. Very interesting and informative. I have rifles in some of the cartridges discussed including 6.5x55 Swede, 270 Winchester, 7x57 Mauser, 308 Winchester, 338-06 , 35 Whelen and 9.3x62 Mauser. The other bigger bangers I can only fantasize about adding to my collection just to say I have one. Probably the tops on that list would be the 416 Rigby followed by the 375 H&H. I’m a 70+ old fart with a penchant for the nostalgic. There’s nothing nostalgic about a 375 Ruger, 416 Remington or 416 Ruger. I’ll admit they may all be ballistically superior to the old ones with the same bore or bullet diameter. I’m surprised that the 300 H&H didn’t get a single mention. I know it’s an old fashioned long action cartridge but I can make my 721 Remington BDL Deluxe do anything a 300 Win Mag will do. The gentleman I got my Husqvarna 9.3x62 from was born British but grew up hunting in Africa when his father was a game ranger. Now he lives in the U.S. , arranges African Safaris and still hunts in Africa. He has very similar views to Mr. Robertson on suitable cartridges for hunting various African game species and has taken 3 buffalo in recent years with the 9.3x 62 that I got from him but his two favorites are the 300 Win Mag and the 375 Weatherby Magnum. My 7x57 is built on a Kar. 98 Mauser action. In discussing the 7x57 vs the 270 Winchester he was emphatically in the 7x57 with a 175 grain bullet camp as being superior to the 270 Winchester for African plains game. I was skeptical until I checked out the current Nosler reloading manual. The 175 grain Nosler Accubond Long Range and Partion bullets with a sectional density of 0.310 can be pushed to over 2500 fps with modern powders and still be within SAAMI specs. The AB LR has a ballistic coefficient of 0.648 and the Partion comes in at 0.519 so not quite as flat a shooter as the AB LR but when sighed dead on at 250 yards they’re both only about 4 inches high above the line of sight at 150 yards before falling to just a little more than 4.5 inches low at 300 yards still with average velocity over 2100 fps velocity and over 1775 ft lbs remaining kinetic energy. That puts its maximum effective point blank range at close to 300 yards. Plenty good for any North American game up to the size and toughness of elk and plenty good for African plains game especially at the typical shooting distances that Mr Robertson described. All the younger set of internet know nothings who never read any of Jack O’Connors writings think he only hunted with the 270 Winchester which is far from the truth. In his Complete Book of Rifles and Shotguns Jack wrote that if he could have only one rifle to hunt the world over it would be a 375 H&H Magnum. Of course he went on to say that if he could have a second rifle it would be a 270 Winchester, but Jack’s favorite for dangerous game was the 416 Rigby. Jack’s enthusiastic writing for the Rigby is said to have saved the cartridge from total obscurity among American hunters. My hunting has been very limited in recent years because of health issues and I’m probably SOL for the remainder of this year because of a hip replacement a little over a month ago so I’ll have to live vicariously through my favorite Utubers . Happy hunting boys and girls!😊
Ive watch this video several times just to hear Kevin regale us with his adventures and his assessments of the various cartridges for hunting in Africa. Great entertainment even for old farts like me who will never be able to hunt in Africa even if we had the money. I’m sure I’ve told the story on another one of your videos regarding specific cartridges (9.3x62 I’m pretty sure) about the gentleman I got my Husqvarna 9.3x62 from. He was British, but grew up in hunting in Africa where his father was a government game ranger. He now lives in the U.S., arranges African safaris and still hunts there fairly often. The Husqvarna 9.3x62 that I got from him was one of his extras which he said he had taken 3 Cape buffalo with in recent years. I don’t know if he knows Kevin Robertson personally but when I asked him if he had heard about “that veterinarian who was a professional hunter and wrote books about shooting big game he replied “Oh sure, that’s Kevin Robertson “. “Doctari”! In my conversations with him he insisted that the 7x57 was superior to the 270 Winchester for use on African plains game because of its ability to handle the 175 grain bullets. At first I was skeptical because was really only familiar with the anemic American 140 grain factory loadings and a few hand loads. When I looked at the data in the current Nosler manual I was amazed at what the 7x57 175 grain bullet with modern powders is capable of. For both the Accubond Long Range, BC .628, and the Partition, BC .519 , sectional density .310, both sighted dead on at 250 yards with a muzzle velocity of 2574 fps the results are amazing. On the average neither bullet rises more than 4 inches at its trajectory apex above the line of sight at 150 yards before falling to about 4.5 inches low at 300 yard and still clocking 2100 FPS with 1800+ ft lbs remaining energy. I don’t know about African plains game but that should be plenty good for elk sized game out to 300 yards or maybe a little farther. Ironically, the gentleman’s two favorites for around the world are the 300 Win Mag and the 375 Weatherby Magnum because he can shoot standard 375 H&H in the Weatherby chamber with very little accuracy loss and have the fire formed brass ready to reload to 375 Weatherby specs. Happy hunting boys and girls!😊
@Thebiggamehuntingblog been watching a few of your videos and its funny seems as though if you send a nosler partition to fast it doesnt do what its supposed to. Fascinating
@@anonymousf454considering those animals have been taken on more than a few occasions with a 30-06, and many elephants have been taken with a 7x57 and even a 6.5x54 (as opposed to the 6.5x55 Swede), you are probably right, but there are still better choices.
I use a 20 inch barrelled Steyr Mannlicher Luxus in 9.3 x 62 mm weighing 8 lbs including the 1.5-4.5 x 20 mm Swarovski scope. My preferred ammo is RWS Uni Classic 293 grain or home loads with 285 grain Lapua Mega bullets.
These videos are very interesting. I will make sure to watch this one soon and take notes as always. I just wanted to ask a question in regards to .375 H&H. I remember that Dr. Robertson mentioned that with a 1 in 12 twist .375 300gr bullets under 25 yards are likely to deflect because they are "overstabilized" during flight. I have saw someone test 300gr bullets in pine boards, and he found that with a tighter 1 in 8 twist the bullets penetrated straighter and deeper. Is it possible that "overstabilization" is not the problem? After all, wouldn't you need more stabilization for a projectile to fly straight through a substance like bone that it is much denser than air?
No specific reason. I think we just accidentally skipped over it. The 416 Remington is basically the same as the 416 Rigby and has virtually all the same good points as that cartridge, just operating at a higher pressure. Not a darn thing wrong with hunting with it!
Most people don't know that Winchester made a bunch of model 1895 lever action repeating rifles for Canada in 303 British. They could get lots of British military ammunition, and it was a rimmed cartridge.
@@Thebiggamehuntingblog That'd be great. Any vids on Savage 250, 300, 303, 22 hi-power or .35 Whelen would be outstanding. I appreciated he talked a minute about the Whelen.
I enjoy the interviews with him but it was kind of hard to hear him and he has a little accent that makes it a little tougher for me to catch all he says.
Recently found your channel and love it. Subscribed. I enjoy listening to your guest, and purchased 2 of his books. Question, is the 300 H&H so obscure these days that it doesn't even warrant mention? Thank you.
Awesome, thanks! Good question about the 300 H&H. I honestly just forgot to mention it in this episode. It can't hold a candle to the 300 Win Mag in terms of popularity, but there are still a decent numbers of guys who use the 300 H&H and it will do basically everything the 300 Win Mag will do.
I have a .375hH&H Remington 700 sps I need to restock probably a Boyds stock the tupperware stock it has fitted makes it a 7lb gun without scope and its a mule to shoot
Fantastic podcast!!! Would love to meet both personally! DR.Kevin Talks a lot about 300grain in 9,3 but do you have any experience with Norma orix 325 grains? I'll appreciate your answer. Thanks. Congratulations!
The 325 gr 9.3x62 is a favored bullet here in Scandinavia for moose and bear. Spesialy in thick forested areas. Good effect on game, But it does not have the best tradjectory. So the 232 and espesialy the 285 is the most popular all around.
I want to hear more of the stuff about how they hunt like when he described the way they hunt leopard in a different episode i was totally into it and was looking for more. The part about how they bait them and set up blinds ect is just pro tip level stuff
South African hunters will disagree with the .270win comments. 130gr bonded bullet is more than adequate for any affordable game in South Africa. From Springbok to Wildebeest Kudu and Gemsbuck, I've hunted all of those with clean passthroughs. On the Gemsbuck, the bullet hit both front legs bones and still passed through completely.
You forgot one that is about as classic on the African Continent as one can get. Until the mid 60's it was the ONLY 300 Magnum rifle in existence. It is the 300 H&H cartridge. To leave it out is just about a crime lol. More game has fallen on the African Continent over the 50 years it was the only 300 magnums on the planet than any of the new 300 magnums.
Also im gonna say it. What was that californian thinking with boots and no socks? did he forget some/loose them in the flight? was he just too ashamed to as the outfitter for a pair? alot went wrong there.
Neck shots are a big No No on anything that has a neck that looks like a sideways triangle. Gemsbok, Wildebeest, Big kudu bull, Eland bull, sable etc. High neck shot , just under the ear, Maybe
Loved this, thanks! I live in South Africa and I've hunted South Africa and Botswana with my father's 7x57 and .375 Wby Mag since I was a young boy! Got a .270 for my 15th (if I remember correctly) birthday after hours and hours of research on which caliber I wanted. I'm a massive 156gr Sako Hammerhead fanboy in the .270, it's served me very well in the past 8 years that I've had the rifle, even on blue wildebeest and eland. Love all three of those rifles. Shot a sable bull with the .375 in 2021 and fell in love with it all over again. We shoot .375 H&H ammo in the .375 Wby Mag, agree completely with the lower velocity being more effective. Would love to build a .404 Jeff one day when I can afford it. Cheers gents, looking forward to the next one!
Awesome! Thanks for your comment and I'm glad you enjoyed the video!
When I originally wrote the following I meant it as a general comment to the video and not just as a reply to the gentleman writing about the 270 and 375 Weatherby. I’m utube technically challenged.
Very interesting and informative. I have rifles in some of the cartridges discussed including 6.5x55 Swede, 270 Winchester, 7x57 Mauser, 308 Winchester, 338-06 , 35 Whelen and 9.3x62 Mauser. The other bigger bangers I can only fantasize about adding to my collection just to say I have one. Probably the tops on that list would be the 416 Rigby followed by the 375 H&H. I’m a 70+ old fart with a penchant for the nostalgic. There’s nothing nostalgic about a 375 Ruger, 416 Remington or 416 Ruger. I’ll admit they may all be ballistically superior to the old ones with the same bore or bullet diameter. I’m surprised that the 300 H&H didn’t get a single mention. I know it’s an old fashioned long action cartridge but I can make my 721 Remington BDL Deluxe do anything a 300 Win Mag will do.
The gentleman I got my Husqvarna 9.3x62 from was born British but grew up hunting in Africa when his father was a game ranger. Now he lives in the U.S. , arranges African Safaris and still hunts in Africa. He has very similar views to Mr. Robertson on suitable cartridges for hunting various African game species and has taken 3 buffalo in recent years with the 9.3x 62 that I got from him but his two favorites are the 300 Win Mag and the 375 Weatherby Magnum. My 7x57 is built on a Kar. 98 Mauser action. In discussing the 7x57 vs the 270 Winchester he was emphatically in the 7x57 with a 175 grain bullet camp as being superior to the 270 Winchester for African plains game. I was skeptical until I checked out the current Nosler reloading manual. The 175 grain Nosler Accubond Long Range and Partion bullets with a sectional density of 0.310 can be pushed to over 2500 fps with modern powders and still be within SAAMI specs. The AB LR has a ballistic coefficient of 0.648 and the Partion comes in at 0.519 so not quite as flat a shooter as the AB LR but when sighed dead on at 250 yards they’re both only about 4 inches high above the line of sight at 150 yards before falling to just a little more than 4.5 inches low at 300 yards still with average velocity over 2100 fps velocity and over 1775 ft lbs remaining kinetic energy. That puts its maximum effective point blank range at close to 300 yards. Plenty good for any North American game up to the size and toughness of elk and plenty good for African plains game especially at the typical shooting distances that Mr Robertson described.
All the younger set of internet know nothings who never read any of Jack O’Connors writings think he only hunted with the 270 Winchester which is far from the truth. In his Complete Book of Rifles and Shotguns Jack wrote that if he could have only one rifle to hunt the world over it would be a 375 H&H Magnum. Of course he went on to say that if he could have a second rifle it would be a 270 Winchester, but Jack’s favorite for dangerous game was the 416 Rigby. Jack’s enthusiastic writing for the Rigby is said to have saved the cartridge from total obscurity among American hunters.
My hunting has been very limited in recent years because of health issues and I’m probably SOL for the remainder of this year because of a hip replacement a little over a month ago so I’ll have to live vicariously through my favorite Utubers . Happy hunting boys and girls!😊
Great video, cannot ask for better content from this guy. Knowledgeable, professional, well informed, and I’m sure experienced in the field.
Ive watch this video several times just to hear Kevin regale us with his adventures and his assessments of the various cartridges for hunting in Africa. Great entertainment even for old farts like me who will never be able to hunt in Africa even if we had the money.
I’m sure I’ve told the story on another one of your videos regarding specific cartridges (9.3x62 I’m pretty sure) about the gentleman I got my Husqvarna 9.3x62 from. He was British, but grew up in hunting in Africa where his father was a government game ranger. He now lives in the U.S., arranges African safaris and still hunts there fairly often. The Husqvarna 9.3x62 that I got from him was one of his extras which he said he had taken 3 Cape buffalo with in recent years. I don’t know if he knows Kevin Robertson personally but when I asked him if he had heard about “that veterinarian who was a professional hunter and wrote books about shooting big game he replied “Oh sure, that’s Kevin Robertson “. “Doctari”!
In my conversations with him he insisted that the 7x57 was superior to the 270 Winchester for use on African plains game because of its ability to handle the 175 grain bullets. At first I was skeptical because was really only familiar with the anemic American 140 grain factory loadings and a few hand loads. When I looked at the data in the current Nosler manual I was amazed at what the 7x57 175 grain bullet with modern powders is capable of. For both the Accubond Long Range, BC .628, and the Partition, BC .519 , sectional density .310, both sighted dead on at 250 yards with a muzzle velocity of 2574 fps the results are amazing. On the average neither bullet rises more than 4 inches at its trajectory apex above the line of sight at 150 yards before falling to about 4.5 inches low at 300 yard and still clocking 2100 FPS with 1800+ ft lbs remaining energy. I don’t know about African plains game but that should be plenty good for elk sized game out to 300 yards or maybe a little farther. Ironically, the gentleman’s two favorites for around the world are the 300 Win Mag and the 375 Weatherby Magnum because he can shoot standard 375 H&H in the Weatherby chamber with very little accuracy loss and have the fire formed brass ready to reload to 375 Weatherby specs. Happy hunting boys and girls!😊
I wouldve been very sad if either of u didnt bring up the .338 win mag. Glorious cartridge. So good on you
Haha, glad you appreciated that!
@Thebiggamehuntingblog been watching a few of your videos and its funny seems as though if you send a nosler partition to fast it doesnt do what its supposed to. Fascinating
I bet the 338 with modern day bullets would take even rhino and elephant.
@@anonymousf454considering those animals have been taken on more than a few occasions with a 30-06, and many elephants have been taken with a 7x57 and even a 6.5x54 (as opposed to the 6.5x55 Swede), you are probably right, but there are still better choices.
This is one of my favorite episodes!
Awesome, glad you enjoyed it Josh!
Nice, I have been wishing someone put together something like this....outstanding presentation Sir👍
Glad you liked it!
I use a 20 inch barrelled Steyr Mannlicher Luxus in 9.3 x 62 mm weighing 8 lbs including the 1.5-4.5 x 20 mm Swarovski scope. My preferred ammo is RWS Uni Classic 293 grain or home loads with 285 grain Lapua Mega bullets.
Nice! What sort of MV are you getting with that 20" barrel?
Never used a chrono on it in the thirty years I have owned it.
nice , i love the videos with Dr. Kevin Robertson
Glad you enjoyed it!
These videos are very interesting. I will make sure to watch this one soon and take notes as always.
I just wanted to ask a question in regards to .375 H&H. I remember that Dr. Robertson mentioned that with a 1 in 12 twist .375 300gr bullets under 25 yards are likely to deflect because they are "overstabilized" during flight. I have saw someone test 300gr bullets in pine boards, and he found that with a tighter 1 in 8 twist the bullets penetrated straighter and deeper. Is it possible that "overstabilization" is not the problem? After all, wouldn't you need more stabilization for a projectile to fly straight through a substance like bone that it is much denser than air?
I’m catching up on your videos, Kevin’s anecdotes are just great. I love his thoughts on too much velocity.
Thanks. Glad you're enjoying them!
This was an excellent and interesting discussion. I'm wondering if there is a specific reason you omitted the .416 Remington from your lineup.
No specific reason. I think we just accidentally skipped over it. The 416 Remington is basically the same as the 416 Rigby and has virtually all the same good points as that cartridge, just operating at a higher pressure. Not a darn thing wrong with hunting with it!
I've carried a clients .600NE Double.. its terrible to carry but let me tell you it does a job on elephant!
I'll bet!
Dude - Robertson on Africa items is like Hunter's coke habit! GOTTA HAVE IT! Thanks!
Glad I can help scratch that itch!
@@Thebiggamehuntingblog The Mega Fix from Q in 375 Ruger, twist rate.
Most people don't know that Winchester made a bunch of model 1895 lever action repeating rifles for Canada in 303 British. They could get lots of British military ammunition, and it was a rimmed cartridge.
How can we get Kevin a proper Mic? 😂 been loving these podcasts!
Can you do a video on the 35 whelen?
Absolutely!
These interviews are great!👍🏻
Thanks!
I like the interviews of this gentleman. Tho he's a bit harder to hear in this one.
I may need to just carve out a weekend and sit down face to face with him to re-record all these episodes with top notch sound...
@@Thebiggamehuntingblog That'd be great. Any vids on Savage 250, 300, 303, 22 hi-power or .35 Whelen would be outstanding. I appreciated he talked a minute about the Whelen.
I enjoy the interviews with him but it was kind of hard to hear him and he has a little accent that makes it a little tougher for me to catch all he says.
Nice nice and long. Hard to find new stuff on these calibers
Thanks, glad you liked it!
Recently found your channel and love it. Subscribed. I enjoy listening to your guest, and purchased 2 of his books.
Question, is the 300 H&H so obscure these days that it doesn't even warrant mention?
Thank you.
Awesome, thanks! Good question about the 300 H&H. I honestly just forgot to mention it in this episode. It can't hold a candle to the 300 Win Mag in terms of popularity, but there are still a decent numbers of guys who use the 300 H&H and it will do basically everything the 300 Win Mag will do.
I have a .375hH&H Remington 700 sps I need to restock probably a Boyds stock the tupperware stock it has fitted makes it a 7lb gun without scope and its a mule to shoot
Fantastic podcast!!! Would love to meet both personally!
DR.Kevin Talks a lot about 300grain in 9,3 but do you have any experience with Norma orix 325 grains?
I'll appreciate your answer.
Thanks. Congratulations!
The 325 gr 9.3x62 is a favored bullet here in Scandinavia for moose and bear. Spesialy in thick forested areas. Good effect on game, But it does not have the best tradjectory. So the 232 and espesialy the 285 is the most popular all around.
Thank you for sharing your experience! Now I know how to use the 325 grains.
Thanks a lot.
I want to hear more of the stuff about how they hunt like when he described the way they hunt leopard in a different episode i was totally into it and was looking for more. The part about how they bait them and set up blinds ect is just pro tip level stuff
On the way back to camp from a day hunting Buffalo, I shot a Diker with my 416 Rigby. .416 hole going in, .416 hole going out. Didn’t go 1 yard.
Did you shoot it with a solid?
@ Barnes TSX 400gr. So almost a solid on a tiny animal.
Always a good video 👍👍
Thanks 👍
South African hunters will disagree with the .270win comments. 130gr bonded bullet is more than adequate for any affordable game in South Africa. From Springbok to Wildebeest Kudu and Gemsbuck, I've hunted all of those with clean passthroughs. On the Gemsbuck, the bullet hit both front legs bones and still passed through completely.
300 H&H, 6.5x54 MS
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Weatherby?
You forgot one that is about as classic on the African Continent as one can get. Until the mid 60's it was the ONLY 300 Magnum rifle in existence. It is the 300 H&H cartridge. To leave it out
is just about a crime lol. More game has fallen on the African Continent over the 50 years it was the only 300 magnums on the planet than any of the new 300 magnums.
Non of the 416's, good bye
Huh? We do indeed talk about the 416s.
Also im gonna say it. What was that californian thinking with boots and no socks? did he forget some/loose them in the flight? was he just too ashamed to as the outfitter for a pair? alot went wrong there.
Who knows! Interesting story for sure...
Neck shots are a big No No on anything that has a neck that looks like a sideways triangle. Gemsbok, Wildebeest, Big kudu bull, Eland bull, sable etc.
High neck shot , just under the ear, Maybe