As someone who has performed this with a full orchestra: this is way more brutal than it seems. the quarter-note section at 1:40 just makes your arms want to fall off.
I had to sight read this in high school, and the quarter note section honestly made me stop entirely for 2 reasons; 1. That's a neat pattern that I want to get right, and 2. I didn't think anyone actually composed music for timpani up that high.
I’m in a school concert band and got to play this instrument for our spring concert and since first playing it in mid February of 2023 I have been in love with it
For the love of Christ, if you write a timpani concerto, put the thematic development IN THE TIMPANI PART, not in the accompaniment like 95% of the others out there! All that does is relegate the timpani part to a glorified ostinato part in front of the orchestra instead of in the back.
If you want to go even crazier, you can use tenor timpani: These are little timpani that go up to one octave above middle C. William Kraft used them in his Timpani Concerto no2.
Back in 1980s I was on cymbals playing this at The Royal Albert Hall in London with the Hertfordshire County Youth Orchestra and a 1000 piece choir. In the Very last movement (which is the same as this one), on the Very last note, I got the most wicked airlock. It just went FWUMP. To cover myself, I faced the cymbals out towards the audience and loudly thought "There you go, you CAN hear it, can't you".....
LPO, thank you for this. I appreciate music even though I cannot compose, sing or play. Since I have been finding these videos on UA-cam where the music is played as the score scrolls, I have to an even greater love for music. I was particularly impressed with this segment as this is the first time I have seen it done for percussion. Again, thanks. And this a great introductory piece to see!
Thank you for creating this. It is absolutely fantastic. My 4th-6th graders really enjoyed the Verdi snippet created a few months ago. They will also have the wonderful opportunity to learn about new meters, as shown in the notation, along with the awesome dynamics! 🙌🏼
This is amazing! This epic piece is truly an epic timpani moment! As a percussionist would love to play this one day. You should really make a game on tapping the timpani with these epic timpani moments!
I keep learning new reasons why I find this such a compelling movement. I have quite literally spent nearly my entire life studying this piece of music ... since the nursery.
Why is the pianissimo 120bpm section written in 3/2? It clearly sounds like 4/4 to me (the timpani part is even written as if it's in 4/4, and the choir part also doesn't sound like 3/2), and not at all like 3/2. Only the final Fortissimo bars sound like 3/2 IMO. Also, the Forte section near the end has every timpani hit written as an accent, even though there are noticeable hits accented more than the others. What's up with that? Anyway, a great piece of music, and a fun video as usual. Great work LPO, keep 'em coming!
It’s interesting isn’t it! :-) In terms of the accents - the bass drum sometimes joins in on the fifth and first crotchets, which makes it sound like some notes are more accented than others.
@@FreakieFan If you counted each bar as 1 trip let, 2 triplet, etc. It would make sense as a 4/4 pattern or you could also think of it as 6/4 or 3/4. The composer probably wanted to emphasize the shorter 2 bar phrase “123, 223” that the choir and many other parts follow. And if counted that way it could also be read in 6/8 (1 la li 2 la li) but would give it a lilt and would be kinda awkward. I would think he had a specific reason for writing in 3/2... definitely interesting to think about, I’m sure looking at the score would give some insight...a great piece of music nonetheless.
How interesting! Who tried to do this? The request is the 4th movement of the Symphony Fantasie (Berlioz). The sword dance of Ghaine (Khachaturian). Kobiki Uta for orchestra composed by Kiyoshige Koyama.
Hey LPO what don't you do a video about Timpani Moments playing Walton's Symphony no 1? Just an idea. Maybe I could offer some ideas for Timpani Moments (if you want [P.D. Great work Simon Carrington])
Thanks Samuel. Great idea - we made a video about Walton 1 a few years ago, ua-cam.com/video/MtCxIxpgOME/v-deo.html - but it could do with a timpani video, as it’s a great part. Yes please, send any requests or suggestions our way. :-)
Not from IMSLP. Orff died in 1982, so his music will not come into Public Domain before 2052. Many scores, including Carmina Burana are published by Schott.
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Orff might have intended for the timpani to play louder than the orchestra in the quieter passages, or maybe to play with added emphasis on what exactly he wanted the timpanist to articulate? Just my two cents, I don't really know either.
A common misconception is that an accent simply means to play louder. That’s more of a byproduct of the actual intent, which is to add more front to the note. In this case, I’d use more velocity, with my wrist being the main muscle group behind the stroke. Mallet choice is certainly another factor, I’d go with something moderately-hard.
As someone who has performed this with a full orchestra: this is way more brutal than it seems. the quarter-note section at 1:40 just makes your arms want to fall off.
Not true. Only if you're an amateur or a bad percussionist 🙄
@@ArturoEscorza me
I had to sight read this in high school, and the quarter note section honestly made me stop entirely for 2 reasons; 1. That's a neat pattern that I want to get right, and 2. I didn't think anyone actually composed music for timpani up that high.
@@ArturoEscorza lmao the singer is gonna come tell us how easy timpani is
@@ArturoEscorza unnecessary
I’m in a school concert band and got to play this instrument for our spring concert and since first playing it in mid February of 2023 I have been in love with it
The vibration of the timpani on the D roll is hilariously cute
Inspiring! Now I don’t know what I want to do more: learn to play the timpani or compose a timpani concerto!
Do both! :-) Once you’ve learnt timps, you’ll have a great understanding of what’s possible.
For the love of Christ, if you write a timpani concerto, put the thematic development IN THE TIMPANI PART, not in the accompaniment like 95% of the others out there! All that does is relegate the timpani part to a glorified ostinato part in front of the orchestra instead of in the back.
@@tomshriver8647 Way ahead of you! I’ve been dissatisfied with so many concertos where the soloist is invisible or just marginally featured.
If you want to go even crazier, you can use tenor timpani: These are little timpani that go up to one octave above middle C. William Kraft used them in his Timpani Concerto no2.
Estan fuera de rango !!! Necesita un timbal piccolo 20” un 23” no da un la ni de milagro 😖
Back in 1980s I was on cymbals playing this at The Royal Albert Hall in London with the Hertfordshire County Youth Orchestra and a 1000 piece choir. In the Very last movement (which is the same as this one), on the Very last note, I got the most wicked airlock. It just went FWUMP. To cover myself, I faced the cymbals out towards the audience and loudly thought "There you go, you CAN hear it, can't you".....
As I’ve always been told, people hear with their eyes. That was exactly the right thing to do.
That is hilarious lmao
LPO, thank you for this. I appreciate music even though I cannot compose, sing or play. Since I have been finding these videos on UA-cam where the music is played as the score scrolls, I have to an even greater love for music. I was particularly impressed with this segment as this is the first time I have seen it done for percussion. Again, thanks. And this a great introductory piece to see!
I will be singing this in June! Great composition
Thank you for creating this. It is absolutely fantastic. My 4th-6th graders really enjoyed the Verdi snippet created a few months ago. They will also have the wonderful opportunity to learn about new meters, as shown in the notation, along with the awesome dynamics! 🙌🏼
This is amazing! This epic piece is truly an epic timpani moment! As a percussionist would love to play this one day. You should really make a game on tapping the timpani with these epic timpani moments!
I keep learning new reasons why I find this such a compelling movement. I have quite literally spent nearly my entire life studying this piece of music ... since the nursery.
Thanks, playing this in November and looking forward to it🎶
great sound Simon Carrington!
sabedoria conquistada com louvor!!!beijo emiliana do manejo.
Wonderful video! Thanks!
i used to play this part so many time in my musical period ^^ fun to play
best video for studying I seen ever
Why is the pianissimo 120bpm section written in 3/2?
It clearly sounds like 4/4 to me (the timpani part is even written as if it's in 4/4, and the choir part also doesn't sound like 3/2), and not at all like 3/2. Only the final Fortissimo bars sound like 3/2 IMO.
Also, the Forte section near the end has every timpani hit written as an accent, even though there are noticeable hits accented more than the others. What's up with that?
Anyway, a great piece of music, and a fun video as usual. Great work LPO, keep 'em coming!
It’s interesting isn’t it! :-) In terms of the accents - the bass drum sometimes joins in on the fifth and first crotchets, which makes it sound like some notes are more accented than others.
@@londonphilharmonicorchestra
Ah, that makes sense (re: the bass drum)!
I was thinking the exact same thing as I watched this!
@@JonathanGilmer
Right? Makes no sense
@@FreakieFan If you counted each bar as 1 trip let, 2 triplet, etc. It would make sense as a 4/4 pattern or you could also think of it as 6/4 or 3/4. The composer probably wanted to emphasize the shorter 2 bar phrase “123, 223” that the choir and many other parts follow. And if counted that way it could also be read in 6/8 (1 la li 2 la li) but would give it a lilt and would be kinda awkward. I would think he had a specific reason for writing in 3/2... definitely interesting to think about, I’m sure looking at the score would give some insight...a great piece of music nonetheless.
I love playing on timpani, you can take out all your anger and frustrations out on them
Thank You So Much!
How interesting! Who tried to do this?
The request is the 4th movement of the Symphony Fantasie (Berlioz).
The sword dance of Ghaine (Khachaturian).
Kobiki Uta for orchestra composed by Kiyoshige Koyama.
saludo maestro muy bueno tu material no tienes el de la gran pascua rusa y la segunda sinfonia de tchaikovsky para mi niño
Muito bom, excelente 😊
That is a fun part to play ☺️
Probably a hard part to play too!
Sensacional ! Show !
Why don't you do a timpani moment for the beginning of Christmas oratorio by Bach?
Oooh - that’s an excellent suggestion!
And the beat go on and on.
Good music
amazing
Epic part !
Why in 3/2 meter? What was wrong with 6/4?
Symphonic metamorphosis!!!
I want to play this
Hey LPO what don't you do a video about Timpani Moments playing Walton's Symphony no 1? Just an idea. Maybe I could offer some ideas for Timpani Moments (if you want [P.D. Great work Simon Carrington])
Thanks Samuel. Great idea - we made a video about Walton 1 a few years ago, ua-cam.com/video/MtCxIxpgOME/v-deo.html - but it could do with a timpani video, as it’s a great part. Yes please, send any requests or suggestions our way. :-)
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Buenas maestro no tendra el video de la marcha eslava
At 1:40 it sounds like the tempo is ♩ = 280
Como puedo conseguir las partituras en PDF, Por favor🙏
Not from IMSLP. Orff died in 1982, so his music will not come into Public Domain before 2052. Many scores, including Carmina Burana are published by Schott.
Sis, what application do you use?... it's as good as this, like playing Timpani Asli. please tell sis the name of the application 🙏.
why am i watching this video??😵💫
bello
why are there breath marks on a percussion instrument?
sorry if this is a dumb question, i play clarinet.
Can you do the last movement of mahler 7??
What the teacher told: 0:30. What's on the test: 1:40
Official request: Agnus Dei from Haydn's "Missa in tempore belli" 😊
SALSA COOKIES! WINDMILL COOKIES!
o timpani
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percussionists have breath marks?
Doesn't O Fortuna start in 3/1 time, not 6/2?
Timpani sheet music?
Did you know this music was use on tv show glee when the menace Sue Sylvester wrecks stuff from her rampage
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Timpani is hard to play
highpassed? where's the v high 37Hz peak?
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Why are there accents on _every_ note? Kind of defeats the purpose of _accenting_ something, just play louder in general..
Orff might have intended for the timpani to play louder than the orchestra in the quieter passages, or maybe to play with added emphasis on what exactly he wanted the timpanist to articulate? Just my two cents, I don't really know either.
A common misconception is that an accent simply means to play louder. That’s more of a byproduct of the actual intent, which is to add more front to the note. In this case, I’d use more velocity, with my wrist being the main muscle group behind the stroke. Mallet choice is certainly another factor, I’d go with something moderately-hard.
@@neonbeige1289 thanks for the clarification!
Each note accented is diferent of overall forte
I think accents for percussion sometimes let you know what the rest of the symphony is doing
isn't it wrong to write "trill"?
Historically, timpani rolls were notated with trills rather than the multi-stroke rolls notion of today
An average II drum cant go up to a D, so you must either have 5 drums or you're using smaller drums than an average set
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I thought this was in 3/1
Oof!
This is like a Death Note Theme really?
The reproduction's speed is not constant. Horrible.
@@tommccanna251 I don't think he knows about breath marks...
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