As someone who has performed this with a full orchestra: this is way more brutal than it seems. the quarter-note section at 1:40 just makes your arms want to fall off.
I had to sight read this in high school, and the quarter note section honestly made me stop entirely for 2 reasons; 1. That's a neat pattern that I want to get right, and 2. I didn't think anyone actually composed music for timpani up that high.
For the love of Christ, if you write a timpani concerto, put the thematic development IN THE TIMPANI PART, not in the accompaniment like 95% of the others out there! All that does is relegate the timpani part to a glorified ostinato part in front of the orchestra instead of in the back.
If you want to go even crazier, you can use tenor timpani: These are little timpani that go up to one octave above middle C. William Kraft used them in his Timpani Concerto no2.
I’m in a school concert band and got to play this instrument for our spring concert and since first playing it in mid February of 2023 I have been in love with it
Thank you for creating this. It is absolutely fantastic. My 4th-6th graders really enjoyed the Verdi snippet created a few months ago. They will also have the wonderful opportunity to learn about new meters, as shown in the notation, along with the awesome dynamics! 🙌🏼
I keep learning new reasons why I find this such a compelling movement. I have quite literally spent nearly my entire life studying this piece of music ... since the nursery.
Back in 1980s I was on cymbals playing this at The Royal Albert Hall in London with the Hertfordshire County Youth Orchestra and a 1000 piece choir. In the Very last movement (which is the same as this one), on the Very last note, I got the most wicked airlock. It just went FWUMP. To cover myself, I faced the cymbals out towards the audience and loudly thought "There you go, you CAN hear it, can't you".....
This is amazing! This epic piece is truly an epic timpani moment! As a percussionist would love to play this one day. You should really make a game on tapping the timpani with these epic timpani moments!
LPO, thank you for this. I appreciate music even though I cannot compose, sing or play. Since I have been finding these videos on UA-cam where the music is played as the score scrolls, I have to an even greater love for music. I was particularly impressed with this segment as this is the first time I have seen it done for percussion. Again, thanks. And this a great introductory piece to see!
Why is the pianissimo 120bpm section written in 3/2? It clearly sounds like 4/4 to me (the timpani part is even written as if it's in 4/4, and the choir part also doesn't sound like 3/2), and not at all like 3/2. Only the final Fortissimo bars sound like 3/2 IMO. Also, the Forte section near the end has every timpani hit written as an accent, even though there are noticeable hits accented more than the others. What's up with that? Anyway, a great piece of music, and a fun video as usual. Great work LPO, keep 'em coming!
It’s interesting isn’t it! :-) In terms of the accents - the bass drum sometimes joins in on the fifth and first crotchets, which makes it sound like some notes are more accented than others.
@@FreakieFan If you counted each bar as 1 trip let, 2 triplet, etc. It would make sense as a 4/4 pattern or you could also think of it as 6/4 or 3/4. The composer probably wanted to emphasize the shorter 2 bar phrase “123, 223” that the choir and many other parts follow. And if counted that way it could also be read in 6/8 (1 la li 2 la li) but would give it a lilt and would be kinda awkward. I would think he had a specific reason for writing in 3/2... definitely interesting to think about, I’m sure looking at the score would give some insight...a great piece of music nonetheless.
How interesting! Who tried to do this? The request is the 4th movement of the Symphony Fantasie (Berlioz). The sword dance of Ghaine (Khachaturian). Kobiki Uta for orchestra composed by Kiyoshige Koyama.
Hey LPO what don't you do a video about Timpani Moments playing Walton's Symphony no 1? Just an idea. Maybe I could offer some ideas for Timpani Moments (if you want [P.D. Great work Simon Carrington])
Thanks Samuel. Great idea - we made a video about Walton 1 a few years ago, ua-cam.com/video/MtCxIxpgOME/v-deo.html - but it could do with a timpani video, as it’s a great part. Yes please, send any requests or suggestions our way. :-)
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Orff might have intended for the timpani to play louder than the orchestra in the quieter passages, or maybe to play with added emphasis on what exactly he wanted the timpanist to articulate? Just my two cents, I don't really know either.
A common misconception is that an accent simply means to play louder. That’s more of a byproduct of the actual intent, which is to add more front to the note. In this case, I’d use more velocity, with my wrist being the main muscle group behind the stroke. Mallet choice is certainly another factor, I’d go with something moderately-hard.
Not from IMSLP. Orff died in 1982, so his music will not come into Public Domain before 2052. Many scores, including Carmina Burana are published by Schott.
As someone who has performed this with a full orchestra: this is way more brutal than it seems. the quarter-note section at 1:40 just makes your arms want to fall off.
Not true. Only if you're an amateur or a bad percussionist 🙄
@@ArturoEscorza me
I had to sight read this in high school, and the quarter note section honestly made me stop entirely for 2 reasons; 1. That's a neat pattern that I want to get right, and 2. I didn't think anyone actually composed music for timpani up that high.
@@ArturoEscorza lmao the singer is gonna come tell us how easy timpani is
@@ArturoEscorza unnecessary
Inspiring! Now I don’t know what I want to do more: learn to play the timpani or compose a timpani concerto!
Do both! :-) Once you’ve learnt timps, you’ll have a great understanding of what’s possible.
For the love of Christ, if you write a timpani concerto, put the thematic development IN THE TIMPANI PART, not in the accompaniment like 95% of the others out there! All that does is relegate the timpani part to a glorified ostinato part in front of the orchestra instead of in the back.
@@tomshriver8647 Way ahead of you! I’ve been dissatisfied with so many concertos where the soloist is invisible or just marginally featured.
If you want to go even crazier, you can use tenor timpani: These are little timpani that go up to one octave above middle C. William Kraft used them in his Timpani Concerto no2.
Estan fuera de rango !!! Necesita un timbal piccolo 20” un 23” no da un la ni de milagro 😖
The vibration of the timpani on the D roll is hilariously cute
1:41 let’s be honest we were waiting for this part.
I’m in a school concert band and got to play this instrument for our spring concert and since first playing it in mid February of 2023 I have been in love with it
Thank you for creating this. It is absolutely fantastic. My 4th-6th graders really enjoyed the Verdi snippet created a few months ago. They will also have the wonderful opportunity to learn about new meters, as shown in the notation, along with the awesome dynamics! 🙌🏼
I keep learning new reasons why I find this such a compelling movement. I have quite literally spent nearly my entire life studying this piece of music ... since the nursery.
Back in 1980s I was on cymbals playing this at The Royal Albert Hall in London with the Hertfordshire County Youth Orchestra and a 1000 piece choir. In the Very last movement (which is the same as this one), on the Very last note, I got the most wicked airlock. It just went FWUMP. To cover myself, I faced the cymbals out towards the audience and loudly thought "There you go, you CAN hear it, can't you".....
As I’ve always been told, people hear with their eyes. That was exactly the right thing to do.
That is hilarious lmao
This is amazing! This epic piece is truly an epic timpani moment! As a percussionist would love to play this one day. You should really make a game on tapping the timpani with these epic timpani moments!
LPO, thank you for this. I appreciate music even though I cannot compose, sing or play. Since I have been finding these videos on UA-cam where the music is played as the score scrolls, I have to an even greater love for music. I was particularly impressed with this segment as this is the first time I have seen it done for percussion. Again, thanks. And this a great introductory piece to see!
I will be singing this in June! Great composition
Why is the pianissimo 120bpm section written in 3/2?
It clearly sounds like 4/4 to me (the timpani part is even written as if it's in 4/4, and the choir part also doesn't sound like 3/2), and not at all like 3/2. Only the final Fortissimo bars sound like 3/2 IMO.
Also, the Forte section near the end has every timpani hit written as an accent, even though there are noticeable hits accented more than the others. What's up with that?
Anyway, a great piece of music, and a fun video as usual. Great work LPO, keep 'em coming!
It’s interesting isn’t it! :-) In terms of the accents - the bass drum sometimes joins in on the fifth and first crotchets, which makes it sound like some notes are more accented than others.
@@londonphilharmonicorchestra
Ah, that makes sense (re: the bass drum)!
I was thinking the exact same thing as I watched this!
@@JonathanGilmer
Right? Makes no sense
@@FreakieFan If you counted each bar as 1 trip let, 2 triplet, etc. It would make sense as a 4/4 pattern or you could also think of it as 6/4 or 3/4. The composer probably wanted to emphasize the shorter 2 bar phrase “123, 223” that the choir and many other parts follow. And if counted that way it could also be read in 6/8 (1 la li 2 la li) but would give it a lilt and would be kinda awkward. I would think he had a specific reason for writing in 3/2... definitely interesting to think about, I’m sure looking at the score would give some insight...a great piece of music nonetheless.
How interesting! Who tried to do this?
The request is the 4th movement of the Symphony Fantasie (Berlioz).
The sword dance of Ghaine (Khachaturian).
Kobiki Uta for orchestra composed by Kiyoshige Koyama.
great sound Simon Carrington!
Thanks, playing this in November and looking forward to it🎶
saludo maestro muy bueno tu material no tienes el de la gran pascua rusa y la segunda sinfonia de tchaikovsky para mi niño
Why don't you do a timpani moment for the beginning of Christmas oratorio by Bach?
Oooh - that’s an excellent suggestion!
sabedoria conquistada com louvor!!!beijo emiliana do manejo.
i used to play this part so many time in my musical period ^^ fun to play
Wonderful video! Thanks!
I love playing on timpani, you can take out all your anger and frustrations out on them
That is a fun part to play ☺️
Probably a hard part to play too!
Hey LPO what don't you do a video about Timpani Moments playing Walton's Symphony no 1? Just an idea. Maybe I could offer some ideas for Timpani Moments (if you want [P.D. Great work Simon Carrington])
Thanks Samuel. Great idea - we made a video about Walton 1 a few years ago, ua-cam.com/video/MtCxIxpgOME/v-deo.html - but it could do with a timpani video, as it’s a great part. Yes please, send any requests or suggestions our way. :-)
Why in 3/2 meter? What was wrong with 6/4?
Good music
Sis, what application do you use?... it's as good as this, like playing Timpani Asli. please tell sis the name of the application 🙏.
best video for studying I seen ever
Thank You So Much!
Official request: Agnus Dei from Haydn's "Missa in tempore belli" 😊
Muito bom, excelente 😊
And the beat go on and on.
I want to play this
amazing
Sensacional ! Show !
Buenas maestro no tendra el video de la marcha eslava
Epic part !
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Symphonic metamorphosis!!!
why am i watching this video??😵💫
Can you do the last movement of mahler 7??
Doesn't O Fortuna start in 3/1 time, not 6/2?
Timpani sheet music?
Why are there accents on _every_ note? Kind of defeats the purpose of _accenting_ something, just play louder in general..
Orff might have intended for the timpani to play louder than the orchestra in the quieter passages, or maybe to play with added emphasis on what exactly he wanted the timpanist to articulate? Just my two cents, I don't really know either.
A common misconception is that an accent simply means to play louder. That’s more of a byproduct of the actual intent, which is to add more front to the note. In this case, I’d use more velocity, with my wrist being the main muscle group behind the stroke. Mallet choice is certainly another factor, I’d go with something moderately-hard.
@@neonbeige1289 thanks for the clarification!
Each note accented is diferent of overall forte
I think accents for percussion sometimes let you know what the rest of the symphony is doing
highpassed? where's the v high 37Hz peak?
An average II drum cant go up to a D, so you must either have 5 drums or you're using smaller drums than an average set
SALSA COOKIES! WINDMILL COOKIES!
percussionists have breath marks?
At 1:40 it sounds like the tempo is ♩ = 280
why are there breath marks on a percussion instrument?
sorry if this is a dumb question, i play clarinet.
I thought this was in 3/1
What the teacher told: 0:30. What's on the test: 1:40
Como puedo conseguir las partituras en PDF, Por favor🙏
Not from IMSLP. Orff died in 1982, so his music will not come into Public Domain before 2052. Many scores, including Carmina Burana are published by Schott.
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isn't it wrong to write "trill"?
Historically, timpani rolls were notated with trills rather than the multi-stroke rolls notion of today
This is like a Death Note Theme really?
Oof!
The reproduction's speed is not constant. Horrible.
@@tommccanna251 I don't think he knows about breath marks...
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