I think the Hondata torque by gear and traction control would totally blow your mind. I had a Focus RS and several Subaru's, and this Hondata feature in my opinion is a game changer to that issue, especially if your power levels are gonna remain mostly stock.
I love mine, I have a black one as well and the aero actually works so it’s not all just for looks. The seats are amazing and comfortable the power is good and the shifter is butter smooth. It stops quickly and traction is very good for a front wheel drive with the limited slip axle.
We're in similar situations. Early 30s, 2015 wrx traded in after 5 years for a new 2019 type R. I missed my WRX 1st and 2nd gear pulls for the first year and the AWD for a few months, but never looked back. Everything about the type R is better, bar the electronic brake. The wheel hop and lack of traction can be solved with a rear motor mount, 18s and a wider tire. I'll be looking at the new STI chassis when it comes out but it will be in addition to the Type R and a Ford Bronco I preordered for variety. Looking forward to seeing additional updates!
Great review! I really appreciate hearing those thoughts about it being FF. I really hope honda makes it awd some day, would be nearly the perfect car for me.
I upgraded from WRX to RS3. Obviously miss manual transmission. RS3 handles pretty well, but I doubt as well as your type-R, definitely suffers from a little understeer with the FWD bias(MQB platform same as golf). But it is a super fun daily driver on the street to mash that gas pedal in sports mode and leave cars in the dust for no reason. I would highly recommend taking your type-R to the track, I bet that would make you love your car more than ever. Awesome vid as always!
I feel you on the FWD. I bought a really heavily modified Fiesta ST with close to 300hp, my first FWD car in 15 years. I've had it for 6 months, and it will be getting sold very soon. It absolutely RIPS on a windy mountain road, but it just doesn't speak to me around town. This will for sure be the last FWD car I'll ever buy.
I never had an awd sports style car until my 20wrx, consequently i will never not have one again lol. Awd is perfect combo for power and handling. Fwd is fun but so easy to lose grip and same with rwd.
Maybe race compound tires will help much better. I auto cross in my B18C Supercharged EG Civic with Toyo Proxes RA1. After autocross, i just left the tires on. They are very sticky and will help very much on the street for a cold tire that is front wheel drive, but they will wear out quick driven daily. Or Michelin Pilot sport Cup 2 are very good too for the street...
I sold my 2015 WRX and bought a 2020 Type R. As an enthusiast I appreciate the R, but I can’t help but feel like I’m just killing time while I wait for the a new and properly updated STI... ...with the used car market the way it is now, I can actually sell my CTR for more than I bought it for. It might be time to cash in and bank it until the FA STI...
definitely since you went from awd to fwd u find that issue, for me i have only owned fwd cars and fell in love with the characteristics so the type r is the perfect car in my eyes.
Great video! I also had a WRX that was unfortunately involved in a rear-end accident. I've been looking into the CTR and my biggest drawback as well is making that transition from AWD to FWD. I just can't seem to let that go haha
51 Here, I have the Type R Sport line, black. I love it, and agree with you about the colour choice, and your thoughts about the 4wd. Supposedly the incoming next gen will have both, FWD and 4WD with 350 and 400 hp respectively.
Great great review. The Golf R is boring and has sliding front calipers. On a mountain road the CTR is way more fun, also on a race track. (I have one) But yes, I am annoyed about 1st and 2nd gear traction too. I'll try some even grippier tires (RE-71RS) and see how it goes.
What stupid logic. Buys a front wheel drive car and complains about have a front wheel drive car. None of what you said is anything new about front wheel drive cars.
Agree. Put 18's on mine wrapped in Pilot Sport 4S. Even that alone fixes a lot of the traction issues I was experiencing on the stock 20's. Hondata traction control is another great option. I haven't tried the stiffer RMM but I have heard it pretty much resolves any wheel hop you might get even with 350-400 HP going down on the front wheels.
I have been considering buying a current gen sti. I know that there are some known issues with the motor. But everyone I keep talking to says it is a non issue unless you start modding. I want a fun daily driver. I also live in the pacific northwest, so awd is a plus. I test drove a 19 sti a few months back and immediately fell in love with it. The type r is awfully tempting....just not sure how I feel about buying a car without being able to actually test drive it. There are absolutely none in my area.
2nd gear is useless and autoX isn't what this car is made for.....the way this car pulls out of corners on the TRACK will make you love it - will put all the power down.
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39 is old, lol. Life startS at 55!
Just depends on your personal life .
I think the Hondata torque by gear and traction control would totally blow your mind. I had a Focus RS and several Subaru's, and this Hondata feature in my opinion is a game changer to that issue, especially if your power levels are gonna remain mostly stock.
I’m 47 and I got my 21 CTR in black for the same reasons that you did.
I love mine, I have a black one as well and the aero actually works so it’s not all just for looks. The seats are amazing and comfortable the power is good and the shifter is butter smooth. It stops quickly and traction is very good for a front wheel drive with the limited slip axle.
You can tell even from the quickness calm and ease at which he turns on the street how good this car is :)
Not gonna lie... seeing that a Hyundai Veloster was #1 in your category in Autocross made me happy... lol coming from a Veloster N owner ;)
We're in similar situations. Early 30s, 2015 wrx traded in after 5 years for a new 2019 type R. I missed my WRX 1st and 2nd gear pulls for the first year and the AWD for a few months, but never looked back. Everything about the type R is better, bar the electronic brake. The wheel hop and lack of traction can be solved with a rear motor mount, 18s and a wider tire.
I'll be looking at the new STI chassis when it comes out but it will be in addition to the Type R and a Ford Bronco I preordered for variety. Looking forward to seeing additional updates!
Great review! I really appreciate hearing those thoughts about it being FF. I really hope honda makes it awd some day, would be nearly the perfect car for me.
I upgraded from WRX to RS3. Obviously miss manual transmission. RS3 handles pretty well, but I doubt as well as your type-R, definitely suffers from a little understeer with the FWD bias(MQB platform same as golf). But it is a super fun daily driver on the street to mash that gas pedal in sports mode and leave cars in the dust for no reason. I would highly recommend taking your type-R to the track, I bet that would make you love your car more than ever. Awesome vid as always!
I feel you on the FWD. I bought a really heavily modified Fiesta ST with close to 300hp, my first FWD car in 15 years. I've had it for 6 months, and it will be getting sold very soon. It absolutely RIPS on a windy mountain road, but it just doesn't speak to me around town. This will for sure be the last FWD car I'll ever buy.
Thanks for the update and your honest opinions!
I never had an awd sports style car until my 20wrx, consequently i will never not have one again lol. Awd is perfect combo for power and handling. Fwd is fun but so easy to lose grip and same with rwd.
Maybe race compound tires will help much better. I auto cross in my B18C Supercharged EG Civic with Toyo Proxes RA1. After autocross, i just left the tires on. They are very sticky and will help very much on the street for a cold tire that is front wheel drive, but they will wear out quick driven daily. Or Michelin Pilot sport Cup 2 are very good too for the street...
I sold my 2015 WRX and bought a 2020 Type R. As an enthusiast I appreciate the R, but I can’t help but feel like I’m just killing time while I wait for the a new and properly updated STI...
...with the used car market the way it is now, I can actually sell my CTR for more than I bought it for. It might be time to cash in and bank it until the FA STI...
So you don't like the r?
I walked a modded sti with my stock type r from a red light. No need for awd, and I live in Cali
definitely since you went from awd to fwd u find that issue, for me i have only owned fwd cars and fell in love with the characteristics so the type r is the perfect car in my eyes.
Great job nice video. I owned my type r for 4 years
Great video! I also had a WRX that was unfortunately involved in a rear-end accident. I've been looking into the CTR and my biggest drawback as well is making that transition from AWD to FWD. I just can't seem to let that go haha
You might have some luck by downsizing the wheels and putting beefier tires up front. But once that FA24 STi drops....
Ring land failed 😂😂 and head gasket 😂😂
@@arturklimek_pl6775 that comment belongs in 2013 at the absolute latest.
51 Here, I have the Type R Sport line, black. I love it, and agree with you about the colour choice, and your thoughts about the 4wd. Supposedly the incoming next gen will have both, FWD and 4WD with 350 and 400 hp respectively.
Great review
Great great review. The Golf R is boring and has sliding front calipers. On a mountain road the CTR is way more fun, also on a race track. (I have one) But yes, I am annoyed about 1st and 2nd gear traction too. I'll try some even grippier tires (RE-71RS) and see how it goes.
Any other type r owner hear a squeaking noise when coasting in gear and when shifting gears??? Only hear it when the windows are down.
Thinking of trading my WRX for a type R
you look like christian erikssen
Where do you live to get a better understanding
@projectWRX15 I know you said you never tracked your WRX, how does this compare to the WRX in your opinion
what is your winter set up? Thanks
The CTR is a race car and should not be compared to a luxury car. Too picky!
You will most certainly have traction issues with the stock wheel and tire setup
Paul walker’s long lost cousin.
What stupid logic. Buys a front wheel drive car and complains about have a front wheel drive car. None of what you said is anything new about front wheel drive cars.
Any recalls?
Hondata traction control, 18s with summer tires, and rear motor mount = traction issue solved
No it's not... traction issues are ever solved on a front-wheel drive car...you only get less of it by applying less power
Agree. Put 18's on mine wrapped in Pilot Sport 4S. Even that alone fixes a lot of the traction issues I was experiencing on the stock 20's. Hondata traction control is another great option. I haven't tried the stiffer RMM but I have heard it pretty much resolves any wheel hop you might get even with 350-400 HP going down on the front wheels.
@@jralphroman of course. I'm tuned boost by gear via phearable stage 2 map
@@tylermorton2057 I'm running the hasport 62a rear motor mount. And the nvh vibration just feels like an after market clutch.
amazing
I want to sell my WRX as well. I’m in between buying the Type R or waiting for the new STI.
U want the sti I sense it
I have been considering buying a current gen sti. I know that there are some known issues with the motor. But everyone I keep talking to says it is a non issue unless you start modding. I want a fun daily driver. I also live in the pacific northwest, so awd is a plus. I test drove a 19 sti a few months back and immediately fell in love with it. The type r is awfully tempting....just not sure how I feel about buying a car without being able to actually test drive it. There are absolutely none in my area.
@@Catgat37 My brand new STI burned 2 quarts of oil between oil changes. It was junk, I have had my Type R for almost 2 years and love it much more.
@@cybercityoedo808 🤔
If it has a transaxle and it’s up front, then that minivan ain’t for me 👏🏿
If it was AWD you would lose a lot of the cornering ability. AWD adds weight.
You’ve heard of the Yaris GR right?
Nails on a chalkboard. Get a winter beater. Quit destroying good cars in snow/salt.
30 is old? I guess me be being 34 is ancient🤦♂️
im 42 😢
just put the orbitz wheels on there itll be awd
Mercedes a class lmao bro how you going to compare it to that
2nd gear is useless and autoX isn't what this car is made for.....the way this car pulls out of corners on the TRACK will make you love it - will put all the power down.
Ford Focus RS? 350 horses + AWD, blows sti & type R away.
🤡🤡🤡
wrong
Stopped watching when you said your biggest gripe was FWD.
Is the car a '20 or a '21?
think it is 2021, has the new shifter nob
Says he old at 30 🤣😂🤣
Stop complaining about the exterior lol
You bought the wrong car.
Jealous much?
Great review