New Jacket & Tech-Air 5 System
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Is it up to date ? 😄
Any update on the tech-air vest?
I crashed on this on Tuesday. There was wet sand on the road that took my rear wheel out. The air bag deployed before i touched the ground. I believe it saved my spine.
What airbag did you have?
Got my Tech Air 5 a couple months ago within my first 6 months of riding. I use it all the time, don't care if it's 100º outside. I invested in wearable gear (protection) and bike protection from day one. Zero $ on fancy exhausts, or anything that won't really help me if something goes wrong. In big part thanks to you for helping understand the importance of this and the risks of riding.
Yeah I got mine a few months ago as well, agreed, I don't care how hot it is. Today in NY it's 94 degrees F real feel 103 degrees F. I wear full protection no matter what ...
Nice I wanna get this airbag vest too. Just to give some advice, exhaust systems or slipons are actually very important for safety as they make stock bikes that are almost silent in traffic heard and visibility in traffic is crucial when riding. Visibility/being heard. Loud pipes.
@rohandhanota9944 nice ill check them out. The only thing that worries me about these devices is the thought of them actually not functioning while crashing, leaving you with actually no form of protection. Not even padding.
I've been using Tech Air 5 for 3 years now and I always have it on when I ride. I absolutely love it. Well worth the extra protection.
Shout out to you From Minnesota!!! I work at the Maple Grove- Cycle Gear. And shared this with our team!!! Thanks so much for all of this information! Very informative and I plan that myself and the team can implement this.
Love that you bought the same jacket as me. It's the only leather jacket I found that is VERY breathable. I'm actually getting cold on the chest in the summer (on evenings).
The only thing I don't like about this jacket is that I can't fully turn my head on straights/intersections since the shoulder armor hard-stops the chin.
Yep - i started riding at age 56 and when i did, i bought the Alpinestars TechAIR Street and the Valparaiso jacket which was one of the jackets to which the system attaches. The vest is a much better idea because you can use it under a variety of jackets.
I have fallen off my bikes at slow speeds a number of times and have even rolled completely over and the vest has not deployed. I’m glad it has not deployed because 1) in those situations, I did not need it, and 2) it’s expensive to get the CO2 cartridges recharged. It makes me worry just a little that it also might not deploy if i actually need it but i’m not too worried because it uses three accelerometers to determine whether or not you have been impacted or are about to impact the ground. If Greg bought the Medium vest, what size is the jacket? one size up to accommodate the vest?
i’m 61 now, so it’s probably about time for me to get new gear.
An important point you seem to overlook is the airbag needs room to expand under your jacket of 2 to 3 inches according to Alpinestars. Your outer jacket is too tight for this room needed to operate the airbag.
Your statement is correct if you are using a non-alpinestars brand jacket. If wearing an alpinestars brand, tech-air compatible jacket, the jacket can be the same size as the vest thus be more snug fitting. The alpinestars tech-air jackets have expandable panels to accommodate vest deployment. To your point, my Revit jackets in contrast have to be at least a size larger than my tech-air 5 vest in order to accommodate deployment as there are no expandable panels.
had just watched your video on the halite vest. that one seems to provide a lot more length of protection down and around the hip cage.
Nice setup. I got an Alpinestar Fastair jacket last year that I love. I wonder if the vest would fit under it. I also have been pleasantly surprised that the heavier jacket, I had a mesh jacket previously, ventilates well in hot weather.
congrats MJ! I love my tech-air 5, have had it for about 2 seasons, feel absolutely naked without it. I'll sometimes go a couple blocks away to grocery store in tshirt, all i think is "what an expensive piece of decor sitting in my room" XD
Also tech air user here..made the switch after landing on my side, just where traditional gear has no protection.. and broke scapula in the glenoid area..(the piece you feel below your arm pit when reaching out with opposite hand)
I agree, always wear your gear no matter the temps. My approach is a little different lol. It’s been (with our crazy and nasty humidity here), “feels like”110-114° every day for the past month…so, it’s parked 😂
It’s great airbags are becoming more affordable. I got my tech air 5 recently and I’m less stressed to begin my moto adventure :) Hopefully you’ll never need it! Cheers!
I use the Helite turtle 2, tethered to the bike. I hope it'll never have to be activated. If it does, I'll be sure to give a review. Keep on the good work and cheers from the Netherlands!
I got GP Plus R V3 Rideknit Leather Jacket from Alpinestars and it's very comfortable even with the tight fit and I have the tech air 5 too. Riding during summer is ok, I feel in it even better than in my old textil jacket. As soon as you ride at least 60km/h it's not hot in it anymore thanks to that mesh thingy and the jacket is perfored in some places. Another absolutely great thing I can recommend is to wear some special shirt designed to be weared under the moto gear. I have dainese functional pants and rebelhorn functional t-shirt (if it's the correct term in english) for hot weather and it is absolutely awesome! Cannot ride without it anymore. Nice vid, thanks and have a good one. Cheers
This is technically a grade higher than gp ride knit. This also uses rideknit material
I’ve been using the Tech Air 5 for a couple of years now, and really like it for its comfort & sense of protection (luckily haven’t needed the protection it so far, fingers crossed).
Been seriously considering the Fusion Jacket, look forward to your updates on how the combo works, particularly in 100F+ heat!
I wear the same gear no matter what the weather is...including my full 1 piece leather suit.
@@MotoJitsu yup, you mentioned that in the video. Same here. But since I’ve got 100F+ and 90%+ humidity for 6 months out of the year, I’m always open to options that offer top shelf protection and a little extra breathability. Hence I look forward to hearing what you think of the Fusion Jacket/TA5 combo.
Just got the vest paired with the alpinestars viper 3 jacket. Very comfortable and feel alot safer on the bike now, especially being new to riding after a 30 year break.
After my crash in May I’m now buying the Tech Air 5. Tried one on the other day. Buying this week. Large is right for me.
I have the same jacket 💯 it’s awesome I just wish it had a proper Velcro strap for the zipper, it can move around a lot when riding. But besides that the ventilation is superb and it definitely makes me feel pretty protected.
I spent a ton of time debating the techair 5 and the Klim in-motion. Curious if you compared them and why you choose techair? Love your videos and I use you’re app to practice. Thanks!
Congrats on the upgrade! I ride with a Helite Turtle airbag. Love it!
Thats the one Im thinking of getting.
MotoJitsu now comes bubble wrapped, love it!!
I also hit the gym(understatement) and that alpinestars tech air in 4XL fit me looking like football shoulder pads. Just way too muscular for it. But the Daniese smart vest being sleeveless and stretchy does fit in 2XL so I went with that.
I’ve been looking at the Dainese smart vest too as I wear a Dainese Super speed 4 and even tho I feel great and protected quite a bit with chest and back protection added i just think about the airbag being that much nicer just incase I go down at freeway speeds 🤷🏻♂️
Alpinestars have just released the Bionic Action V2 Jacket, with full upper body protection. I think it is more convenient that your airbag vest.
Nice! Welcome to the airbag vest club! I wear a helite vest. It gets hot but safety is worth it. Also looking jacked haha! Im thinking about buying ur book. Took the msf brc and the returning rider course. Looking for the next course or steps to improve!
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I also have a Tech-5 as well as a Helite Leather Vest, The tether on the Helite, gives me a touch more confidence since it's Analog, I know it's going off, the Tech is proven as well, but there's always that feeling that it may not work ??????????
Nice - i really like mine. I find it difficult to get on under my track suit though, and prefer my DAir suit for that.
Just been looking at this same Jacket, seems like the best option for hot weather protection.
I'm about your size and was looking at the size 52 for a proper fit, would appreciate knowing which size you got and does it wear in a little like a normal leather jacket? Thank you
The vest on its own looks so Mobile Infantry. Starship Troopers, surely I'm not the only one seeing this!
I’ve been wearing tech air 5 for 2 years. It add bulk bit I never ride without it. I leave a little room in my jacket in case it does deploy.
😮 oh man, looks absolutely protective. I could use this!!!
ive have a tech-Air 5 sense I started riding... I love it and never notice im ever wearing it. battery lasts a long time I can do multiple 2 to 4 hour rides with it... and it becomes a CE level 1 if the battery dies.
The Tech Air 5 back protector is CE level 2
Some drip! You be pimpin’, my man 🤙🏽
I also use the Tech Air 5 vest and I love it. Little hack: If you want to wear it under a 1 piece suit, put the vest in the suit, allign the sleeves of the vest with the sleeves of the suit and put it on together.
My 1 piece has its own airbag in it alreadg
I like the Helite more because when it goes off, you only have to change the cartridge for 20-50 euros without having to send it back. With the Alpinestars after each deployment, you have to send it back to the factory for a rebuild which costs 350 euros😮
Who cares about the money to rebuild if it protects me?
@@MotoJitsu Because who knows how long you'll have to wait to get the vest back from the factory. It's just something to think about when shopping for an airbag vest. Cost is still a consideration when it comes to gear, is that not apparent to you?
if it's accidental, then so be it. technology isn't perfect.
Then I'll put in a back protector in the jacket while I wait for it to come back...or wear my 1 piece leather suit, obviously. Cost is not a consideration for gear...it's an investment, like courses and track days which I do monthly.
@@MotoJitsu and I'm sure you realize that people use a cost/benefit risk/reward filter when purchasing anything, whether that's gear or anything else.
I buy the best gear that I can afford, which means taking cost into consideration. I save up for track days which also take cost into consideration.
I like the helite better because not only is it less expensive but it protects more of your upper torso and lower back, you can change your own cartridges, and you can buy a low tech version that uses a tether.
Although as far as aesthetics go the alpinestars wins for sure!
Slick equipment! And really nice you donated all that gear and cash. Good guy. Im thinking about a Helite with the tether and gas cartridge. Just beginning to get my stuff together. Bought a Shoei SF-RF full face and will add the rest. Still lots to do on the bike before I take it out. I live in southern Indiana and driving on my way to and from the closest small town (6500) I saw six bikes and NONE of them had any gear and two of them had their ladies on the back, also with no gear. Insanity. Thanks for the review and all your encouragement.
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Is this instead of the Helite you recently bought ?
Looking at airbags and looks helite is possibly more protection ,especially supporting the neck.
awesome jacket, I love the look of it, I had the same one, but had to sell it because unfortunately it did not fit me well, the fabric on the arms was very tight and uncomfortable, so be weary of how much you hit the gym :))
I agree with airbags mines an rst adventure combined airbag, I'll never wear anything else in box system,
Had mine a couple of years now never ride without it 👍
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Moto jitsu got the full jacket and trousers well love alpine stars fits bit tight on me lol too many butties lol been out in 30 degree most in uk is 19 cool
Great video about tech5. Can I ask you what size is your alpinestars jacket if airtech5 is size M? Thx
I just bought a tech air 5. Mainly to help prevent a broken collar bone if I crash on track.
The ground on the street or track will hurt the same.
Purchased the vest. Thx you. Love all your videos.
I got a tech air 5 also and I have a astars halo jacket , so I would need to take off the chest, back and shoulder armour?
Nice. Next video would like to see a comparison between this one and the Helite Turtle 2
Have to look into it...need this
You look noticeably more swoll 💪 near full batman in that jacket.
I have the og tech air which needs to be used with a compatible jacket its really good unfortunately i got to use it when i looped my bike 🙃 didn't feel a thing my only issue is charging it can be annoying aome times
Saw you yesterday at Cycle Gear trying this on when i was picking up my new tire. You'll enjoy the app & gps. Its just HOT. Not real breathable BUT SAFE..lol Enjoy...see you out in the twisties
Not worried about heat. See ya out there!
awesome review. I am looking into this gear as well!
Bought the Klim ai-1 rally version to go under one of their Marrakesh jackets … fine in the hot Australian sun 😏
Using the Tech Air 10 whenever I ride. Not handy but you don't get better protection.
I currently use HitAir which is tethered, both a vest and 3 jackets (overkill). Tech-Air is nice and similar to the Klim vest in my opinion. Sometimes I use my HitAir vest with a Bohn Armor mesh shirt, but I don’t think the shirt would be good at surviving abrasion on it’s own. I like HitAir because of the neck roll that inflates, and they offer a chest piece, which is something missing from a lot of jackets. The Tech-Air does offer great all around upper torso protection. Thanks great video. AGATT!
Hitting the heavy bag can be a good /fun workout but thanks for the vid man
I'm thinking that outer jacket might be a bit too tight which won't allow for proper expansion of the vest to give you optimum protection. Just my opinion. Totally agree on full gear, 60 or 90 degree outdoor temp.
It’s good
wow exactly my set up... too good
I watched a tutorial the other day on that vest and the jacket had to have some room because if your jacket is to tight it won't deploy properly and you're jacket looks way to tight. Hope it works when you need it🙏🏽but just thought I'd share that with you
Would you have bought a size down in the jacket if you had not bought the airbag?
I’d be interested if the vest fits under the textile jacket too. Maybe with back armour removed.
I want to find an airbag system that doesn’t lock me into a specific jacket.
I’ve wanted to replace my back armour for some time and an airbag seems like the way to go. Though they don’t seem to go as low on the spine as some of the armour systems.
If you've got 2 inches of air in your jacket without the regular back protector, it fits. I use my Tech Air 5 in my suit, under my leather jackets, under Kevlar hoodies,...
you need a little bit baggy, the airbag vest can be tight, but really should go a size up with the compatible jackets so that the air bag had a little room to inflate properly.
I use a tech air 5 for track days and the street and would buy it again. I can't feelt it while riding. The only negative thing, is the additional heat in the summer, because of that extra layer.
I don’t mind the heat
@@MotoJitsu yeah, it's not that bad. And the additional protection is more than worth it!
What made you switch to the Tech Air 5? If I recall you had a Helite Turtle for a while
How about ventilation and airlflow? Good bad from 1 to 10
Greg, the leather jacket must not be snug over the vest, otherwise there is insufficient space for the airbag to deploy! It's also stated in the user's manual fo the TechAir 5.
I know. I read it. Theres room
Not if the jacket is tech air ready. Tech air ready jackets have stretch panels that accommodates the vest.
Have you heard if any of those deer whistle warning things actually work. We have so many deer up in Oregon, but the scenery is just awesome. Keep the brakes covered n blessings.
never heard
How do you clean the techair5?
They have a street version what’s the difference n which is best for what
The jacket look so tight, like it is supposed to. But will there be space for the airbag to deploy fully ? :)
I got to have the protection. I wouldn't be comfortable riding without it. Yeah, it gets hot but when riding, it cools off. I wish I had more vents on my helmet. That it a very interesting setup with the airbag. I am curious on how it gets deployed.
gyro's, algorithms, etc etc
@MotoJitsu just found their video. That is amazing how they developed it.
Which one is better? Helite Turtle 2 or this one?
Nice! I looked at some electronic airbag vests but decided to stick with the mechanical Helite for now. Klim infamously offered one that required a subscription. If you missed a payment, then your airbag wouldn't deploy. Does Alpinestars do that, too? Incidentally, do you still have your Helite jacket?
mine doesn't have a subscription
Klim airbag doesn’t require a subscription. You pay $400 for the vest + $400 for the in¬ion stuff. $800 combined, which is about the same as Tech air and Helite.
There is an option to subscribe for $120/year instead of $400. If you don’t pay, there is a 30 day grace period and it won’t shut off while you’re riding unless the battery is dead.
Beyond that, seems the Klim would be comfortable to wear - stretchy and breathable.
how does the Alpine handle with high speeds? My current leather bottom back side will flap around from the draft of air coming over the top of the bike and down my back. The Alpine looks really snug. Thumbs up for this video!
it's fine
Love your videos, id the inflation strong enough to expand in the tight fitting jacket?
Yup
Hi, Greg. I noticed you bought the Helite not long ago and wonder how you compare it vs. the A-Stars? I've got two Helite Turtles (tether and e-vest), although your set up is appealing because it's hidden.
I slimed down and it was too big
@@MotoJitsu Makes sense, and congrats on dropping the lbs. The A-Stars def fits you well and I'd love for you to do a follow-up video after you've owned it awhile. I've been looking at adding a second airbag and this is high on the list. Revzilla shows mixed reviews but, like Helite, I like that with A-Stars you can just buy the unit outright and there's no subscription BS. Thanks again.
If money is no object,that's the best probably on the market👍
I don't like the subscription, mandatory service etc,and the Helite Turtle 2 was a lot cheaper that way...
Good to see airbags propagate anyway 👍
Congrats on your new addition of riding gear 🎉
There is no subscription. I have the app but there’s nothing to pay for
@@MotoJitsu That's great👍.You have a good point about recharge fee for sure-the vest/you being in one piece to recharge🤞.And it definitely looks better,couldn't tell someone is wearing one(small point,but still) Hopefully you shall never need it🍀🤞
I gotta find a place near me to get a different jacket. Im tall and skinny so when i get bigger sized stuff its alway too round and too short lol
Hey Greg! What about the Helite airbag vest you bought a few months ago? I've been thinking on getting that one, you still happy with it? Or what made you switch to Alpine? Thanks man!
Gave it away at last month’s cycle gear bike night. It got too big and loose on me
we need a gym vlog, Greg !!
I really like that combo. I was wondering, in case the worse happens and it deploys, is it "re-usable"? As in, is it a one usage only?
you have to send it in to get recharged
My wife got me a TechAir3 for fathers day.... loved it! Used it about 5 times and now it won't charge... LED won't even light up. Started acting flaky on the 3rd ride with it. Turning itself off and on. I made sure the zip was closed well and everything. Now the thing won't even light up at all... not even when plugged in to charger. Never been in rain, wet, misused or thrown around. Pretty disappointing for $599. I agree on having good gear but seems quality may not be there even when you pay for it.
No idea...this is the 5 and no issues so far.
What size jacket is that?
Would love to here your opinion on textile vs leather given the same fitting jacket etc...
Don’t have one, personal preference
Nice set up
What happened to the helite vest you had? Did yiu not like it? I was thinking about getting one. I thought it was nice that you could put it over any jacket you wanted.
Was too big and loose on me
Which way to Muscle Beach?
The airbag is a must for me. I always use my Helite Turtle 2, no matter the weather, distance, speed, or whatever.
I have a question. Don't you need to leave a little space for the airbag to expand when activated?
There’s space
Apologies if I missed it but why the switch from the e-turtle?
Greg, what happened to the Helite Turtle vest you bought? Was it not enough protection somehow?
gave it away last month at cycle gear bike night...was too big...too loose.
Great gear and the high cost is absolutely worth it for the protection if gives, BUT... one thing came to mind when I saw how close-fitting both items were. With a tight air vest inside a tight leather jacket, what happens if the vest goes off? The high pressure gas will do what it needs to do and expand the vest very rapidly, but with almost no space between the two where does it expand into? I would worry that the jacket's seams would lose the battle and maybe suffer damage to the stitching? Hope I'm wrong and even if I'm not it would still be worth it for the protection etc, but might be costly to have to replace the jacket? Ride safe brother and I hope you never need to find out!
Some jackets are designed for airbags, they have built in stretch in some places so the airbag can expand. Lots of new jackets have this feature
Is the jacket TechAir approved? Otherwise the airbag is not able to inflate properly.
if you put jacket on top of inflatable balloon cushions - aren't you reducing or just disabling the inflate process ? it's snug alight but that means almost no space for the inflatable areas to inflate , no?
Nice jacket. I think textile gear is fine for doing the speed limit. But I feel the same as you. If youre going a bit faster you should really be wearing leathers.
does the ground get softer at lower speeds?
@@MotoJitsu Im thinking more in terms of abrasion resistance. If you fall off at a lower speed you're not going to slide as far. Therefore a textile jacket has a better chance of holding up.
that doesn't make any sense..but you wear what you want, as will I
@@MotoJitsu I wear 2 piece leathers.
I dont know whats not to understand.
It seems to me Im agreeing with what you said in the above video. Leather offers more protection than textile obviosly. But thats not to say textile doesnt have its place.
Congrats! i belive the jacket should be bigger, in case of air bag deployment you need at least 4 cm space or you will get harm.
There’s space
Not with Tech Air compatible jackets or suits.
Damn bro those arms 😮
it is true that the revit jacket is as protective as leather though right? Or is that not actually true ?
Edit: sounds like it’s not, which makes it pretty misleading advertising on their site. That’s disappointing
That's a good investment 👌
Love my tech air and the peace of mind it gives me on the road. HATE the app lol that’s its only downside for now. Customer support is fantastic. Can call with any question about the system and get a straightforward answer from reps.
hi, have you tried the techair 5 under the track suit?
My suit has its own airbag