Have had one since 2020. Just had a crash with it, and it worked better than I expected. Not a scratch on me, after a 50+mph lowside. TA5 deployed before I hit the ground. It felt like a very gentle deployment -- I really barely noticed it. Really amazing!
@@adamangelis5558 You can’t do it yourself, you have to send it back to alpinestars or authorized dealer to reset it. I think it’s a couple hundred each time.
@@WillfulThinker Well... You don't. You can send it away to be cleaned, but it can take weeks to get back depending on where you are. I use deodorant on mine, the same deodorant that I use on me. It worked nicely enough, until there was a shortage of my usual deo and the one I replaced it with proved to be a disaster. Right now that vest is sitting unused, until I send it away to be cleaned. I logged more than 700 hours on mine I think, including two minor crashes. I think the technology's great, but the lack of consideration given to washing it is quite disappointing. It's supposed to be worn everyday for commuting after all. I wear mine beneath shoulder amour, though it's probably redundant.
I'm proud owner of Tech-Air 5... there are only two issues I have... 1. Bluetooth communication between vest and phone is REAL pain, regardless if you use iPhone, or Android phone. It is really really f****** hell. 2. You really get sweat in it, if you are not riding, or if you are rinding in the city. So still waiting for Tech-Air 3 🤩
I don't use the Bluetooth function when riding because it's crap. Once my phone loses its "line of sight" with the CPU unit (which is basically all the time when I ride since my phone is usually in a breast or jacket pocket in my jacket), then it gets disconnected. Don't know if that can be fixed with a firmware update, or if it's hardware-dependent. But yes, me too, I'm a proud Tech Air 5 owner/user. :)
I have to reinstall the application every time I put on the airbag vest and I want to access the application. as a customer, please update and review the entire application!
Could you explain the CE Level ratings for the airbags. In your video you provide kN force for CE Level 1 airbag and CE Level 2 airbag. But, I don't see any value on Alpinestars website. I am interested in the Tech-Air Off-road airbag system. Also would be great to give a sense of something that looks like 1 kN. Is that for of pushing 100 kg. of mass so many meters per second? Seems a lot.
Is there any R&D bring done on an airbag system for the lower body. Many of the people that I know involved in motorcycle accidents end up breaking their legs. It’d be great we had a system similar to this that would at least cover down to the knee.
When the vest inflates the back protector becomes a level 10 . The vest protection offered is way higher than a chest/ back protector you’re currently using, so, No you don’t have to use any other gear.
@@UWfalcinI broke my collarbone tripping and falling so honestly this isn't a red flag for me, might ev3n save you som3 pain in the future. Definitely sucks on the wallet though.
Simple question with no answer. Dear Alpinestars if iI'm riding with t-shirt can I use tech air 5 on top without any jacket? Or there are some other issue like gas cylinder on the back is not protected from direct sun light end etc.. I know there are tech 3 available, but regarding tech 5, can I?
@@scottishmudders8357while I agree with you, I get his point as well. I was just flung 40ft off my bike breaking 6 ribs and collapsing both lungs, puncturing one of them as well but with SUPER minor road rash, All I was wearing was a dirtbike jersey. I'd love to know if I can wear this with an abrasion resistant long sleeve with some elbow/shoulder armor as comfort is definitely a priority for me. I'd likely wear it under but it would be nice to know if I could do either.
You can certainly wear it under no issues atall provided you give your self some inflation room. I ride now with dainese race air and it’s very uncomfortable but I know it’s a superior product though the downside is it’s not for street it’s track only …. The alpine stuff is brilliant very good and comfortable. I agree comfort is a factor I think if you’re comfortable you ride better but also there’s a balance between comfort and safety … it’s the good old fine line lol
What happens if you wear a very fitting leather jacket with traditional stretch panels? Do you need a golf ball of room with in the jacket with the airbag on or off? What if you jacket has some stretch it is “fitted fit” once the airbag is in? Will it hurt you? Or just not deploy as well?
TA5 doesn't provide any abrasion protection. Also, if you crash without a jacket over it, the airbag will surely be shredded. Instead of $180 for service, it will cost you $800+tax. So, "CAN" you? Yes. But, you should not.
They are actually using or at least had a run with them in one of the previous Dakars for sure. I know, because our country racers have used them. Though the model was a bit different and more like MX/Enduro body armor rather than a jacket like here. I was on a fence buying it and the price was around ~1k EUR for it.
Does any1 knows where can i find one in Vancouver? Or that sells online and delivers fast (I have a friend going there next week and it costs half my country`s price)
One thing... Wouldn't the big plastic part on the back, where the canisters and electronics are, become a problem in a crash if the rider lands on the back? A smaller, raised impact zone looks problematic to me.
Probably don't want to be open to lawsuits if it inadvertently caused some type of whiplash effect by contacting helmet and blasting someone's head, especially in a insignificant fall. People are sue happy
I bought one after reading about broken ribs & scapula on one Utube test rider's slow speed urban slip on diesel.....but... In the instruction book it has an exemption clause for pacemakers or heart conditions. Written in RED it stated Do Not Use if........ So, sadly, I returned the garment for a refund......but am still wondering why I am excluded from using one when I am still able to ride according to doctors/cardioligists.... Is it a case of legal liability protection or nanny state overkill? Sure I have had open chest surgery, but from the video's made by Alpine Stars the TA5 looks like it inflates very gently and does not crush the chest, unless maybe, it's installed in a non compatible (not enough expansion room) jacket. I'm perplexed. I want one, it's got the best rib cage coverage over Dianese and Klim vests, which kook like giant life vests for boating when they inflate......... Perhaps Alpine Stars reps can advise, as staff at shops just don't know the answer.......I think I will end up buying one anyway - after watching the video it passes my seat of the pants test criteria, but an affirmative answer from a technical expert would be very helpful 🤔
welcome to protected body but ending in a wheel chair. As usual, just a few companies are caring about locking neck . I have helite and yes it saved me twice, helmet neck spin all locked...
I have no expectation that a single garment will provide all the protection I need. Get a LEATT neck brace if you want to guard against neck injury. The Helite (and all similar tether-based systems) have a lot of problems. Here are the two big ones: 1. It's a mechanical system, and wears out. The metal cable corrodes. The spring weakens. The piston stop deforms. This makes the performance very inconsistent, and unpredictable over time. 2. Where you connect it to your bike creates a bias. If you connect it on the right side, for example, you must fall further to the right before it will deploy. If you connect it to the front, then you will travel further forward in the event you crash into an object in front of you. This also creates a great deal of unpredictability in the Helite/teather-based systems. FYI, I owned a Helite for years, and commuted on it every day. Everything I described above is based on my personal experience. I had the steel cable corrode and break off, rather than deploy. The piston wore down and the force to deploy became very low. (It deployed one time when I turned to look behind me at a stop light.) The TechAir5, and all similar digital autonomous systems are better in all these ways. The only types of these systems I would avoid are those which are based on a subscription business model. (Can you imagine your airbag not deploying because your credit card was declined? Or, due to a billing error? Hell no to that!)
@@wisebloodnyc read me back. Talking about lots of airbag systems which don t lock spin/ neck / helmet... Then , just an observation in real life and crashes. Period...
I do not recommend this vest in one and a half it stops working it no longer turns on and the bag there that is inside the vest always comes out of its place which should be putting at risk that in any fall or when it inflates it will be plowed in a position inadequate that could hurt you more and another thing is that the clasp that is on the front that activates everything comes undone very easily and to make the 5-year guarantee valid they put many locks on you and in the end you have to pay more and be careful why you They say that there is a specific way to charge the vest, why else would they tell you that you damaged it by connecting it incorrectly and they no longer want to make the warranty valid and they never show you how it should be with their USB charger and in the official video they say and show what it is very easy and fast but it does not specify that it must be connected from an exact position
It really is too bad I have had too look elsewhere when it comes to gear. My last straw was the almost $400 Gp Tech v2 gloves I was excited but a little cautious about lasted one 4 hr ride on the street. My right ring finger the stitching came out and left a gaping hole. About the first 2 inches of the finger split open. First was a pair of gloves that fell apart two years ago, then a $1300 suit, and now these. Come on, you guys have the history and respect but seem like your losing your quality for quantity. I hope you guys check this out. But, probably not. This won't even be looked at.
Have had one since 2020. Just had a crash with it, and it worked better than I expected. Not a scratch on me, after a 50+mph lowside. TA5 deployed before I hit the ground. It felt like a very gentle deployment -- I really barely noticed it. Really amazing!
@@adamangelis5558 You can’t do it yourself, you have to send it back to alpinestars or authorized dealer to reset it. I think it’s a couple hundred each time.
@@adamangelis5558Yes 3 times you can use it
How does cost the cylinder?
this is the best comment here
Great stuff, I use it every day. Please, please, make the next one WASHABLE !
How do you clean it to get the stank out of it? I'm thinking about getting one. Also, do you wear it under a jacket that has shoulder and elbow armor?
@@WillfulThinker Well... You don't. You can send it away to be cleaned, but it can take weeks to get back depending on where you are. I use deodorant on mine, the same deodorant that I use on me. It worked nicely enough, until there was a shortage of my usual deo and the one I replaced it with proved to be a disaster. Right now that vest is sitting unused, until I send it away to be cleaned. I logged more than 700 hours on mine I think, including two minor crashes. I think the technology's great, but the lack of consideration given to washing it is quite disappointing. It's supposed to be worn everyday for commuting after all. I wear mine beneath shoulder amour, though it's probably redundant.
This is the only video I’ve seen to clean it:
ua-cam.com/video/BQxcu_azNO8/v-deo.html
I clean it with a helmet Interior cleaner with Hands
Does it stabilize the helmet when deployed?
Activating and deactivating safety gear via velcro is absolutely insane.
I would love one, one day.
Ordered mine today. 😊
Great Buy I'm ordering mine today ☺
I'm proud owner of Tech-Air 5... there are only two issues I have...
1. Bluetooth communication between vest and phone is REAL pain, regardless if you use iPhone, or Android phone. It is really really f****** hell.
2. You really get sweat in it, if you are not riding, or if you are rinding in the city. So still waiting for Tech-Air 3 🤩
I don't use the Bluetooth function when riding because it's crap. Once my phone loses its "line of sight" with the CPU unit (which is basically all the time when I ride since my phone is usually in a breast or jacket pocket in my jacket), then it gets disconnected. Don't know if that can be fixed with a firmware update, or if it's hardware-dependent. But yes, me too, I'm a proud Tech Air 5 owner/user. :)
I never head bluetooth issues, but the sweat problem is very much true
Tell me because I'm not sure: do you wear it direct on your skin or you use it on some first layer t-shirt?
glad i got a jacket that is compatible with this
Great technology! Hopefully the App data is ultra safe and insurance companies do not get access to it, lol
I have to reinstall the application every time I put on the airbag vest and I want to access the application. as a customer, please update and review the entire application!
Could you explain the CE Level ratings for the airbags. In your video you provide kN force for CE Level 1 airbag and CE Level 2 airbag. But, I don't see any value on Alpinestars website. I am interested in the Tech-Air Off-road airbag system. Also would be great to give a sense of something that looks like 1 kN. Is that for of pushing 100 kg. of mass so many meters per second? Seems a lot.
Is there any R&D bring done on an airbag system for the lower body. Many of the people that I know involved in motorcycle accidents end up breaking their legs. It’d be great we had a system similar to this that would at least cover down to the knee.
So, what happens when you pop a wheelie? Does it inflate and become a parachute?
Are you supposed to remove the chest and back protection when wearing this vest? Shoulder protection as well?
When the vest inflates the back protector becomes a level 10 . The vest protection offered is way higher than a chest/ back protector you’re currently using, so, No you don’t have to use any other gear.
Does this device works on a mountainbike as well?!
+1
Will it deploy if you just lose balance with your bike while stationary and fall over?
Yes, it will. Happened to my friend's wife. It deployed right before she hit the ground. That showed me it worked, so I bought one.
@@barthutchison4207 Damn that sucks. Gotta stay on my feet
@@UWfalcinI broke my collarbone tripping and falling so honestly this isn't a red flag for me, might ev3n save you som3 pain in the future. Definitely sucks on the wallet though.
A lot of haters here. This is the only system allowed on the Dakar rally, nuff said
I just received it from the service because it deployed and they had’not cleaned it as they say!!
How many deployments it has in race mode?
Only 1. The Race vest has 2 as the airbag is not as big
Does anyone know if the Rev’It tech air Avertum is basically the same unit?
Yes it's the same tech. The vest itself has some style differences. Revzilla customer reviews explain it more
Would be nice if it dialed emergency services upon impact
I understand you but whats the point if you are not able to speak.
Simple question with no answer. Dear Alpinestars if iI'm riding with t-shirt can I use tech air 5 on top without any jacket? Or there are some other issue like gas cylinder on the back is not protected from direct sun light end etc.. I know there are tech 3 available, but regarding tech 5, can I?
You’re kidding? So you want protection but wear a tshirt ? Mate grow up and gear up
@@scottishmudders8357while I agree with you, I get his point as well. I was just flung 40ft off my bike breaking 6 ribs and collapsing both lungs, puncturing one of them as well but with SUPER minor road rash, All I was wearing was a dirtbike jersey. I'd love to know if I can wear this with an abrasion resistant long sleeve with some elbow/shoulder armor as comfort is definitely a priority for me. I'd likely wear it under but it would be nice to know if I could do either.
You can certainly wear it under no issues atall provided you give your self some inflation room. I ride now with dainese race air and it’s very uncomfortable but I know it’s a superior product though the downside is it’s not for street it’s track only …. The alpine stuff is brilliant very good and comfortable. I agree comfort is a factor I think if you’re comfortable you ride better but also there’s a balance between comfort and safety … it’s the good old fine line lol
It has no abrasion resistance. That's why you need a jacket
What happens if you wear a very fitting leather jacket with traditional stretch panels?
Do you need a golf ball of room with in the jacket with the airbag on or off?
What if you jacket has some stretch it is “fitted fit” once the airbag is in?
Will it hurt you? Or just not deploy as well?
Can this be worn in a high-speed desert race? Different firmware for Dakar competitors?
can I wear Tech-Air 5 without any jacket or garment above it at all?
TA5 doesn't provide any abrasion protection. Also, if you crash without a jacket over it, the airbag will surely be shredded. Instead of $180 for service, it will cost you $800+tax.
So, "CAN" you? Yes. But, you should not.
And why are they not used in MX or Enduro? If they’re so good? And resetable?
They are actually using or at least had a run with them in one of the previous Dakars for sure. I know, because our country racers have used them. Though the model was a bit different and more like MX/Enduro body armor rather than a jacket like here. I was on a fence buying it and the price was around ~1k EUR for it.
How come some are micro usb and some are magnetic USB?
Cant get a straight answer on this ..... does race mode on tech air 5 allow for 2 DEPLOYMENTS???
No. 2 deployments is tech air race
no
Does any1 knows where can i find one in Vancouver? Or that sells online and delivers fast (I have a friend going there next week and it costs half my country`s price)
Website called FortNine
One thing...
Wouldn't the big plastic part on the back, where the canisters and electronics are, become a problem in a crash if the rider lands on the back? A smaller, raised impact zone looks problematic to me.
What about the neck?
they don't care about neck and ending in a wheel chair. I just can't undesrtand how they are stupid...
Better check Helite ;)
Probably don't want to be open to lawsuits if it inadvertently caused some type of whiplash effect by contacting helmet and blasting someone's head, especially in a insignificant fall. People are sue happy
No neck protection wth?
The app is crap. It won't connect to my Techair 5.
i want to get my wife one but do they fit lady's? the chest area looks tight?
Has anyone more than Ariemann tried this when doing enduro?
I saw in one video that it is still under devolop for enduro
Is it possible to wear with a neck brace leatt?
Don’t let insurances participate in the app or info and will be happy to pay to play
No neck protection :(
I bought one after reading about broken ribs & scapula on one Utube test rider's slow speed urban slip on diesel.....but...
In the instruction book it has an exemption clause for pacemakers or heart conditions. Written in RED it stated Do Not Use if........
So, sadly, I returned the garment for a refund......but am still wondering why I am excluded from using one when I am still able to ride according to doctors/cardioligists.... Is it a case of legal liability protection or nanny state overkill?
Sure I have had open chest surgery, but from the video's made by Alpine Stars the TA5 looks like it inflates very gently and does not crush the chest, unless maybe, it's installed in a non compatible (not enough expansion room) jacket.
I'm perplexed. I want one, it's got the best rib cage coverage over Dianese and Klim vests, which kook like giant life vests for boating when they inflate.........
Perhaps Alpine Stars reps can advise, as staff at shops just don't know the answer.......I think I will end up buying one anyway - after watching the video it passes my seat of the pants test criteria, but an affirmative answer from a technical expert would be very helpful 🤔
welcome to protected body but ending in a wheel chair. As usual, just a few companies are caring about locking neck . I have helite and yes it saved me twice, helmet neck spin all locked...
I have no expectation that a single garment will provide all the protection I need. Get a LEATT neck brace if you want to guard against neck injury.
The Helite (and all similar tether-based systems) have a lot of problems. Here are the two big ones:
1. It's a mechanical system, and wears out. The metal cable corrodes. The spring weakens. The piston stop deforms. This makes the performance very inconsistent, and unpredictable over time.
2. Where you connect it to your bike creates a bias. If you connect it on the right side, for example, you must fall further to the right before it will deploy. If you connect it to the front, then you will travel further forward in the event you crash into an object in front of you. This also creates a great deal of unpredictability in the Helite/teather-based systems.
FYI, I owned a Helite for years, and commuted on it every day. Everything I described above is based on my personal experience. I had the steel cable corrode and break off, rather than deploy. The piston wore down and the force to deploy became very low. (It deployed one time when I turned to look behind me at a stop light.)
The TechAir5, and all similar digital autonomous systems are better in all these ways. The only types of these systems I would avoid are those which are based on a subscription business model. (Can you imagine your airbag not deploying because your credit card was declined? Or, due to a billing error? Hell no to that!)
@@wisebloodnyc read me back. Talking about lots of airbag systems which don t lock spin/ neck / helmet... Then , just an observation in real life and crashes. Period...
Looking at the video, the shoulder air bag would provide a lot of hyperextension protection and rather more than the TA3
Not protect your shoulder
I do not recommend this vest in one and a half it stops working it no longer turns on and the bag there that is inside the vest always comes out of its place which should be putting at risk that in any fall or when it inflates it will be plowed in a position inadequate that could hurt you more and another thing is that the clasp that is on the front that activates everything comes undone very easily and to make the 5-year guarantee valid they put many locks on you and in the end you have to pay more and be careful why you They say that there is a specific way to charge the vest, why else would they tell you that you damaged it by connecting it incorrectly and they no longer want to make the warranty valid and they never show you how it should be with their USB charger and in the official video they say and show what it is very easy and fast but it does not specify that it must be connected from an exact position
It really is too bad I have had too look elsewhere when it comes to gear. My last straw was the almost $400 Gp Tech v2 gloves I was excited but a little cautious about lasted one 4 hr ride on the street. My right ring finger the stitching came out and left a gaping hole. About the first 2 inches of the finger split open. First was a pair of gloves that fell apart two years ago, then a $1300 suit, and now these. Come on, you guys have the history and respect but seem like your losing your quality for quantity. I hope you guys check this out. But, probably not. This won't even be looked at.
The app is crap. It won't connect to my Techair 5.
The app is crap. It won't connect to my Techair 5.