One-Sticking: What's MY Gear List??
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- Опубліковано 19 січ 2022
- After dozens of inquiries, I decided to make a video about what I use for one-sticking ... but not only WHAT I use, but WHY! Follow along as I explain the benefits of each piece of gear, and possibly pick up a new trick or two. This is guaranteed the most detailed explanation of one-sticking gear on the internet. #saddlehunter #saddlehunting #onesticking
Links to gear we use:
Canyon Elite rappelling rope:
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Kong stainless quick link:
doublesteps.com/product/maill...
The Ohm tether locker:
www.innovatingtheoutdoors.com...
Dynaglide retrieval rope:
doublesteps.com/product/dynag...
Rock Exotica mini carabiner:
www.baileysonline.com/rock-ex...
Madrock Safeguard:
doublesteps.com/product/mad-r...
Petzl OK carabiner:
amzn.to/46p1Csc
Hockey tape:
www.amazon.com/dp/B01JDJUW42/...
Ultimate One Stick:
doublesteps.com/product/ultim...
TX5 Quick-draw Hanger:
www.tx5customgear.com/shop/p/...
Great vid. Just got done with my first year one sticking and like it very much. Thanks for your help. Watching your vids has helped a lot. I'm running the Wingman, ATC xp with a auto block to get down.
Thanks for the tip on the Rock Exotica mini 'biners. Just picked up a few from a local supplier here in Canada to use with my dynaglide retrieval line. Really appreciate your detailed reviews and recommendations on gear....pure gold for someone like me that is just getting into saddle hunting and trying to put together the best rig I can from the start. After a lot of research, I settled on much of what you use, Canyon Elite, Madrock, Ohm tether locker, dynaglide line and now RE mini-biners. If I decide to try one-sticking, I'll definitely go for the EWO Ulitmate One Stick.
Keep the great one sticking videos coming.....very much looking forward to the whole series.
Thank you finally found the video that I needed. Im trying to get started. This does it. The detail for a total rookie that knows nobody that one sticks to show me. Perfect!
The Devil is in the Details. I watch every one of your videos and that is one of the things that makes them the best. You go over the details and WHY not just this is what I like. Cant wait to see more stuff from you. Thank you
Love your content and valuable information/experience man! I just bought my first saddle this year, but the setup isn't complete, slowly I've been working on getting a reliable setup to learn and hunt with hopefully within the next two years, everything is just expensive for me, college money hardships. I also like your videos because you help me find reliable gear and their prices with ease.
Super-appreciate that man!! I started bowhunting in college too, so I can really relate! The money thing does get easier! 😊
Just wanted to say thankd for all the info and advice. Officially, I have ordered all saddle equipment and then some 🤣🤣. Your videos are very helpful, and I will be doing the open bridge on the lone star saddle after watching your video. Happy Holidays!!👊👍
Appreciate you taking the time to say that … good luck to you this coming season.
AWESOME video! Thank you very much for sharing your knowledge. I’ve been a tree stand hunter but I’ve been interested in one-sticking and wondering what gear to get. Your video is an excellent resource I’ll save for reference 👍
Thank you for the kind words. This video is part of an entire one-sticking playlist (if you go to “playlists” you’ll see them all) so he sure to check out some of the others as you get started.
Great information as usual. Climb safe!
Love the stuff Greg!!!!
Great video Greg, I've been fighting that paracord for way to long. Just ordered some dynaglide from EWO and ordered that tether locker.
Thanks for doing this. Also looking forward to the Predator Camo review, what would be great if possible comparing other patterns such as Realtree, Sitka, First Lite, Mossy etc if you have any of those patterns. I’m a big fan of Predator and ASAT in the late season.
Great episode . Just getting into saddle hunting
Awesome video as usual Gregg!
I appreciate that my friend!
Good video. Thanks Greg.
Great Video....thanks so much!
Hey Greg personally I'd really like to see that rope video. My plan was to go with the canyon elite looks like it will be a good choice. It would be nice to know what to expect from other ropes if a man decided to switch to another.
Great video, thanks
I one sticked this year on public shot a beast of a buck and rappelled down. I carried my pack saddle inn and I packed the deer out all in one shot. The guy that walked up on me gutting my deer and quartering it out had a look of astonishment. It was priceless! He said he drug one all day from back there and almost died. He ended up carrying my bow for me he was a great guy for a public land hunter!
That’s awesome!
Much appreciated Brother thank you!
Awesome Video Greg. With the exception of the saddle brand our setups look almost identical. Also I knew you owned a UltimAider but I didn't know it made the cut and found a home in your personal setup. Looking forward to meeting you at the Mobile Hunter expo this July.
Thanks John! You make an awesome product, and I recommend it to everyone who asks about it. Likewise - looking forward to meeting you at the Mobile Expo too!
Where is this expo in July? No luck with my google search! 👍🏼
@@SEPA.1973 it will be in Winchester Ohio July 29-31. If you have Facebook, there’s a page created called Mobile Hunters Expo … like it, and there’ll be updates added to that.
Thanks buddy, going to try one sticking next season. Using your gear and methods. Can you show how you use the dynaglide rope and caribener to connect and free your rope, up close. Thank you for making these videos
Here ya go! 😁
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Ok, you got me hooked, and I am ordering the gear you recommended. Getting ready to order the tx5 saddle. Any preference between the mesh and Cordura? Thx!!
Old guy here that has been saddle hunting for 4 seasons. Just preparing to one stick next season. Trying to get all my gear ordered now due to the 4-6 week manufacturing delay. I've looked at most of Greg's one stickin videos. I was drawn between Out on a Limb and the UP from Eastern Hunting Outdoors. It's getting down to who provides the best Black Friday coupon codes. Both are premium offerings.
Just received my EWO one stick and can say it looks amazing and we'll built
I don't one stick, but I use the Prussik knot that was already on my tether to hold it tight against the tree and I also hang my backpack from it.
Thank you.
I run the exact same setup as you except I run a 15 inch stick. Also I tried the pack and play and didn't care for it. I'd rather just wrap my aider around the stick. I use tethred pouches to hold my rope and everything. I have a brand new tx5 pouch I ordered but don't like the way it hooks up to my cruzr saddle plus it's a little to stiff for my likings.
Hi Greg. Thanks for your exceptional videos. I have adopted a number or your equipment and technique recommendations. Question for you. Hunting in the rain has been something I've traditionally avoided as I am retired and can pick my days to hunt. However, I continue to hear about the success one can have on mature bucks in inclement weather and had intended on gearing up for this in the coming season. Yesterday, I was in the woods off-season scouting and decided to prep a tree overlooking a significant scrape. A brief rain shower came in while at height with my one-sticking gear. Later, as I rappelled down, it was exceedingly difficult to descend. The Madrock Safeguard would not smoothly allow the Canyon Elite rope to slide like it normally does. Only when pulling extremely hard on the lever would the rope slide through. And then when it did slide, it would give way in chunks of rope uncomfortably fast. Have you experienced this?
Yes. You have to be extra-careful when rappelling on a wet rope, as it will become “grabby” as I call it. What I do is just slow way down and walk myself down the tree much more slowly than I normally do with my “Navy Seal bounding technique”, lol.
"Grabby" is the perfect word. Most of the time on that rappel, it took all my arm strength on the lever to even start the rope sliding in the Safeguard. I was concerned about even getting down as, since this was not a hunting situation, I had already dropped my one stick to the ground. I'm six feet tall and 230 (five pounds into a 35 pound weight loss goal). Perhaps my extra weight had something to do with the extra friction through the Safeguard. Hopefully, slimming down by season will reduce the friction and make it easier to slide down with a wet rope. The one stick will be with me on the way down as a backup in case I have to take the load off the rope to work my way down the tree. And I will take caution and slow down. Thanks again, Greg.
Enjoy your 1 sticking videos. Very informative.
Why do you prefer a 12” stick over the longer one(s). I used a 12” UP unit like you are showing this season but may switch to a 15”.
Just curious about your thought process.
Thanks.
You’re going to make me spoil the contents of a future video! 😂 It shouldn’t be too long before I get to do it … I need to get a 15” stick coming my way so I can compare and contrast them in that video.
Big fan of your videos. I've been injured over the years and now I have to use a crossbow. I can tell you it's harder to use one than a bow on a platform. The string hits the tree a lot on this shots where the deer come behind the tree. Of course we can wait until they pass but a lot of those shots are walking away with no shot opportunity. Any tips for us guys? Thanks!
First of all, thanks so much for the kind words... I really do appreciate that, and it helps keep me doing these! :)
I've never shot a crossbow (at all, much less from a saddle), and I really would hate to speculate on something I know nothing about. I do know there are quite a few crossbow users in the saddle groups on Facebook though, if you get on that, like Saddle Hunter and Saddle Hunter Nation. If you don't use FB, there's also a forum located at saddlehunter.com
Best of luck to you, and keep enjoying that great outdoors! :)
Great info! Out of curiosity what mini back pack do you run?
One that hasn’t come to market yet … Stay tuned 😉
Have you tried hooking your dyna glide on the rappel side of your quick link. I did this 2022 season so far and have not had any hang ups. Climbed over limbs in 3 occasions and still no hangups pulling the rope through the quick link to get it down while standing next to the tree not walking away from the tree spreading scent making noise to break the rappel rope loose.
Yeah, you’ll eventually hang up probably. The only thing that’s going to “catch” when pulling your rope out of a tree is your scaffold knot & quick link … so I want that out and away from the tree as quickly as possible. That’s why I hook up right behind it.
Thanks for all the great videos!! I’m new into saddle hunting and recently got my saddle and right now I’m using the wild edge steps but I have to say this one sticking looks great. The one thing I’m wondering is in the winter I usually pick my heavy clothes in and put them on once I’m at my spot. With one sticking I’m worried about getting all sweaty getting up the tree in all my heavy clothes.
What do you do when it comes to late season and heavy clothes?
I pack my outer jacket in when it gets really cold... keep it in my pack on my back while I'm one-sticking up the tree, and put it on after I'm at hunting height and settled in.
@@StaggsintheWild That’s what I was thinking. Which would you say is better way to go weight wise for saddle hunting.
Wild edge steps with knaider/swaider and a platform? Or one stick like the U.P?
@@andrewpica2473 well, if you search around on UA-cam you’ll find a lot of videos of me using WE Stepps back in the day … notice I said back in the day 😉
One-sticking is by far the lightest and safest way up and down a tree - ESPECIALLY on the way down. Rappelling is a blast, too … and you’ll really appreciate the concept from a safety perspective after a long hunt in January when the temps are in the teens and your fingers are so numb they can barely move.
@@StaggsintheWild In all honesty that’s what made me go into WE steps. But the more I kept digging the more I noticed you went to One sticking. So I went down that rabbit hole. Now just have to mess around and see which one I want to do.
@@StaggsintheWild From a cost side. Is it cheaper to one stick or are they about the same cost?
I was looking at the Petzl OK carabiner on line from Amazon. They have several selections for this carabiner, what do you recomend? Screw-lock, Triact-lock, Ball-lock.
I use the one with a simple screw gate. It shows a visible red beneath the screw until you tighten it.
Do you still like the ohm tether locker the best? I was wondering about just using a binder / alligator clip. Used for ppwk / files.
Yes, I still haven’t found anything better. It’s pretty much the perfect little product for the application.
Is Canyon Elite rope still your recommendation for one stick tether / repel? Any experience with Kong Duck vs Ropeman 1? Trying to decide between 9 mm & 8 mm rope and if a cheaper option like Sterling HTP which is cheaper will be just as good. Also looking at the Mammut Smart 2.0 instead of the madrock to save some money. Thoughts? Thanks!
It is. I've yet to find a rope that has as little memory-retention as Elite. I love the fact that it just falls back straight no matter how I'm winding, wrapping, or using it.
I don't have any experience with the Mammut, so I can't help there.
Sorry to bother you again but on the petzel ok carabiner do you use the screen triact or ball locks ( 3 choices)? Thx again for info.
Screw-lock gate … the one pictured on this link
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Can't order ultimate one stick on back order. Looking at big bob or the wingman. Any experience with those 2?
I’ve got a video on the Slick Rick on this channel. Good second choice.
Do you still use tx5 ?( 2.0 or rayder). What do you think about the covert 2.0 compared to venatic. Should I just get saddle and order linemans rope or get the kit with the 2 ropes ( don't see need for the tether rope since ordering the other items you have listed which will have the 40 ft repell rope which will be the tether unless I am incorrect).
Yes … this is the saddle I use. I’m not a fan of kits personally because you always end up with something different than I would have otherwise chosen. If I had to replace all my gear tomorrow, the pieces in this video would be exactly what I would buy. There is a link to everything in the video description
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@StaggsintheWild thank you, sir. Loved the video you linked at the bottom. Did not see it, and that def explained the saddle.
Awesome video thanks for doing this! 3 things...1. Are there links here somewhere for where to buy the equipment you talked about? If so I'm not seeing them. 2. What Diameter is the Canyon Elite Rope? 3. What model is the Madrock that you use? Again thanks for this video if theres no links thats fine I will just google everything!
Thanks for the comment! Yes, all the links are in the description… it’s harder to pull that up if you’re watching UA-cam on your phone. Look DIRECTLY under the video on the very far right side of your screen abs there should be like a drop-down menu you can hit and expose the description …
Canyon Elite is 9mm, so it’s well within spec of the Madrock Safeguard. 😊
I went and looked … it’s to the far right of the video title, and it’s a “down” arrow; click that and it brings up the video description. Be sure to click the “more …” link to see the complete description and gear list.
@Staggs in the Wild awesome thanks I was on my laptop and couldn't find it ill look again but I pretty much too good notes watching your video and Googled everything! Thanks a ton I'm gonna enjoy saddle Huntin and One sticking so much!
@@CaptDonMc on a laptop, you should see the description directly beneath the video … you might have to click the word “More…” to see all of it, including the gear list and links to where to buy … but it’s all there! Thanks for watching! 😊
I would be more worried about falling from above my anchor point then side loading a carabiner with one sticking.
Then use a linemans belt
Any package you recommend from eastern woods outdoor for the rope/repelling?
I haven’t looked at their packages … I usually don’t like pre-packaged offerings because I’m VERY picky on my gear. If I have to order from three different companies and pay a little extra shipping to get exactly what I want, I’ll do it. The gear in this video is exactly what I’d buy if I had to repurchase everything again today, even knowing all I do after several years of doing this.
@StaggsintheWild great that answered my question. Thanks for taking the time to answer so promptly. I believe in doing it right the first time and listening to others who have experience. Thx again, and the list is very helpful.👊👍
The petzl quick link shows not available there is some but the one I seen is $23 and is it the 8mm or 10mm just want to make sure I get the right size?
Get the Kong stainless in 10 mm; that way, the wrench built into the Ultimaider gear hanger strap works perfectly on it should you decide to use that too.
doublesteps.com/product/maillon-quick-link-standard/
Have you had a chance to try the notch quickie to replace the quick link?
Hunted with it every day this past season. Not totally sold on it though. May go back to my old quick link this year.
@@StaggsintheWild thanks for the feed back. Love the content!!
Why do saddle hunters use the grigri+ instead of the original? Just curious. I've been using the OG for years rock climbing and use it to rappel. It rattles a little bit but some tape fixed it up.
Typically it’s the ability to put the GG+ in “top-rope mode” which allows for an easier rope capture more akin to a Ropeman1 or Kong Duck.
I understand this video is old, I will not be upset if you don’t/can’t get to this. I ordered a size two off their website because of it being 34”-38” waist. I have a 34” waist, however I am 5’ 8”. Do you think I would need to ask to send it back and swap it for a size 1?
Yes. I wear a size 1 or regular with a 34” waist on all my saddles. I show the difference in how a 1 and 2 fit me in my Cruzr saddle video.
so on the rope do you have to tie that knot you have to the quicklink also whats wrong with just buying the sewn loop rope and just putting the quick link on that
You use a scaffold knot to connect the quick link; I show how to tie it step by step at the 18:00 mark of “One-sticking: The Details” (link below). I prefer to tie the knot as opposed to buying a rappel rope with a spliced eye because I can control the quick link better as I use it versus having it just flop around.
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This is not really about your equipment but a general question. Do you know anyone or think having a platform in addition to the one stick would be beneficial, especially to a new saddle hunter?
Yes, there are times it absolutely could be. I have an upcoming video on options like that for one-stickers 👍
How do you unclip the tether locker after rappelling down so that you are still able to pull your rappel line down out of the tree?
You can do it by hand, or you don’t even have to undo it al all; it’ll come undone on its own just with you pulling it. Stay tuned and I’ll throw up a fresh video tomorrow evening JUST about where and how to clip your pull-down rope on!
@@StaggsintheWild Gotcha I wasn't sure if the rappel rope would pull down easily or not with the tether locker still clipped on. Do you typically unclip it before rappelling down or just pull it through once you rappel down?
@@KillingStuffWithJosephJackson I always unclip it by hand just because once I'm to the point of clipping my mini carabiner onto it, I'm already thinking about it and I'm there, so I might as well go ahead and remove it from the rope... but it's nice to know that if for some reason I didn't, it'll pull right off anyway, even from the ground. I've tested it just to make sure. :)
Have you ever considered using a kong DNA carabiner instead of a steel quick link? I just saw them in another video and feel like it could work to offset the load issue of an aluminum carabiner against a tree. Was just wondering if u ever tried it and had any opinion of it
No but I've been playing with a Notch V3 Quickie for the last month gathering thoughts on it...
I have had an issue with the quick links locking in to a point I can’t unscrew so I have usually tightened and then backed it off a quarter turn. Also started carrying a small wrench in case it locks in after sitting all day. Looking for an option to not have to screw and unscrew a quick link. Also definately appreciate all the videos. Been doing the saddle hunting thing for a couple of years and always recommend to my friends your videos
@@sct1464 appreciate that!
I've never had the quick link I use lock up (Petzl oval) and don't know of anyone that has... hardware store links are prone to doing it, as are delta links to an extent. But... I agree with you the screwing and unscrewing can be a bit tedious; that's why I'm playing with the Notch Quickie currently.
@@StaggsintheWild been using the delta quick link so maybe that’s why I was having issues. Bought a oval link to try and if that gets frustrating I’ll probably look into the v3 or that kong DNA
Hi Greg, I have a question about your TX5 dump pouch for your repel rope. Do the MadRock Safeguard and the quick link fit in the pouch with the rope as well or do you have to stow them someplace else? Does that pouch have any exterior pockets on it like the SYS Hauler ES has?
It ALL fits in there … I thought I showed that in the video? Yes … no problems. My pouch has one flat mesh pocket on the outside that I use to hold my milkweed … though I’m sure if you wanted true “pockets” on the side Matthew would make you one like that.
@@StaggsintheWild you maybe did show that and I just missed it. I did see you put the rope in there.
I’m not a one sticker yet. I have most everything I need but I haven’t been able to bite the bullet yet on a one stick.
@@paulcrave3112 honestly, I don’t know if I’ll ever climb a tree again any other way - with the exception of some presets we’re going to make over some mock scrapes next year. It’s THAT much better of a system to me.
@@StaggsintheWild I use bolts on presets on private but SRT paracord presets would be the ticket on public. Thanks Greg.
@@StaggsintheWild what about how that pouch attaches to your saddle. Those straps and hooks make it look like it’s kind of a loose and floppy connection.
Who made the ultimater pack n play in the predator fall grey? I checked ewo and they dont offer it in that pattern
I have a lot of stuff special-made for me... :)
@@StaggsintheWild i just got my first saddle (overwatch orion) in predator fall grey and im gonna need one of those pack n plays in fall grey lol
Could you give me your gear list for one sticking? Thank you
I'm running canyon extreme this year. Have you tried it yet?
I have not. I’ll keep an eye for it.
@@StaggsintheWild it's 8mm, amsteel core with 50/50 technora (or however the hell you spell that) sheath. Very strong and super light
Never even saddle hunter and I’m a big fella 275lb, and collecting one stick gear.
Does the pack n play come with the ultaider?
No, they must be ordered separately
The Petzl Quick Link product link doesn't work anymore.
See if this one will … amzn.to/3KPuHFp
I changed it in the description now too. Thanks for the heads-up.
Do you have another link for the petzel quick link or the Madrock?
Just the ones in the video description.
@@StaggsintheWild what size is the petzel? Diameter? There are so many options.
@@joeyroberts8709 you just need something large enough for your rappel rope to slip through … you could also use a delta link as well. I know Eastern Woods Outdoors stocks them.
Knot used for the Quik link?
Well you just mentioned the knot so nevermind lol
Start watching at the 18:09 mark
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How do we get that tee?
If there’s enough interest, I’m thinking about offering them!
why d you use a 12 inch stock still havent found that answer
It’s my next video … got super-busy with life at the end of summer but getting caught up now. I’ll probably get this one up in the next couple weeks.
Just wondering kinda quick before I pull the plug im about 5'11 and I was wanting to know soon
@@mekhigooden432 Here's the quick scoop: A one-sticking stick is nothing more than a placeholder between your top platform (or step) and the aider. That's it.
The whole goal of one-sticking is to cut out bulk and save weight, in a nutshell. As such, it makes sense to have the smallest stick possible that you don't have to worry about kicking out on you, all things considered. I know a couple guys who actually climb with 10" sticks.
Your gains in one-sticking come from your MOVES -- not the length of your stick. I'm going to show in my video next week that you can only reach so high up on a tree -- be it your FIRST move, or with every subsequent move thereafter. As a result -- the only "advantage" someone would have in a longer stick is the length from the middle (where they hold onto the stick and place it onto the tree...) to the TOP. if you're talking about a stick that's three inches longer, well... in reality then you can cut that distance in half and you'd only gain 1.5" in climbing height by going from a 12" stick to a 15" stick. So in three moves (about the most I ever have to make to get to hunting height, you've only gained four inches on me if you use a 15" stick compared to my 12" stick -- and I'll take the weight savings and bulk savings of my stick over yours. :)
The only caveat to this philosophy is if you have a pack (backpack or saddle bag on an e-bike, etc.) where a 15" stick just PACKS better than a 12" stick... I know guys who will get a longer stick JUST for that reason.
Hope that helps, and you now have a good outline of what my next video will cover. :)
Just use a steel carabiner instead of a quick link rated the same if not better and Sid loading isn’t an issue with a high rated STEEL carabiner
Certainly an option. I’ll also have a video coming out showing yet another option I’ve been using all this year called the Notch Quickie.
@@StaggsintheWild sounds great can’t wait to see it
your gona have 1k-1200 minimum invested in good gear😎✊
@@OverlandAddiction-qj1cn the nice thing about it is this kit has literally worked for me in every single scenario I’ve encountered since I went to this method- from climbing big aspens above an elk wallow in Colorado to multi-branched skinny trees deep in a whitetail buck’s core bedding. 💪
@@StaggsintheWild oh ya✊ no doubt✊✊ ben using it for 5 yrs now and im 62 its the ultimate hunting methoud
If you end up selling your mad rock can I be put on the buyer list? Lol
Lol!! I have a very good suspicion it’s safe and secure right here … but I WILL give the GriGri + a fair and honest evaluation. I just got it in a couple hours ago, and the thing is huge compared to my Madrock!
I just ordered one a week ago from Amazon... It was the only place I could find them available anywhere online. It ended up being about $140 total. The Safeguard was $100, faster shipping was about $25, and then the tax of course. It shipped from Mexico, but I did get it.
How do you hunt 100 times a year? are you retired? lol
I’m very blessed.