Hate to say it but I think the El Camino was in the wrong. The white truck had started to turn left when the El Camino, after stopping, when through, probably trying to beat the train. Take a second look and let me know what you think.
@jimc5694 This one is tough but I think this one is 50/50. They both did not come to a complete stop and were trying to beat the signal. I think they share equal blame.
The stop line is out of the field of vision of the camera for the truck, so it's impossible to say if he did or did not come to a full stop. But the El Camino obviously rolled the stop. Truck was also fully in the intersection before EC entered the intersection. I've got the feeling the EC was looking left at the train and not straight ahead. I blame the EC.
It's good to see some proactive police activity on trespassers and gate-runners. Even if they were only given a verbal warning, walking or playing on active tracks is no joke. Where I worked, we only saw police take action after someone was hurt. Each of those cars weighs 286,000 lbs versus the 150-200 lb human body. It's no contest who will win in that situation. And usually in our incidents, the police were notifying the next of kin...
Wow! Excellent catching all the trains, especially 2 vehicles t-boned before a train is coming in La Grange, Kentucky, the Heritage Units, and so much more, @Virtual Railfan, thank you.
Some great catches tonight, thanks VRF, especially Indiana Harbor Belt. All I need to see now is a Coil Car from the fabulous Chicago South Shore & South Bend Railroad.
11:54. As an emergencyehicle driver instructor, fault assignment wilbe interesting. Pickup did have rear left turn signal. Not blinking fast, so front turn signal was probably working but not visible. No mirror turn signalamp?
Nice to meet the Wichita law enforcement informing the tourists of potential spontaneous combustion in that highly volatile area.... (see numerous past videos) it's the Bermuda Triangle for fires.
One thing I like the best about these grab bags is that they catch a lot of old fallen flag cars on here. Sometimes a fallen flag car doesn't even have a logo on it. I occasionally see cars marked for SCL (Seaboard Coast Line) along the CSX bowline, usually gondolas and some of those are marked maintenance of way. The Family Lines hoppers are also an occasional sight through here and every now and then also have SCL call letters. I've even seen a couple of cars marked for the C&O and one was even marked BO with a barely legible Chessie System logo on the side. (I'm not sure why it was missing the "&" between the B and O.) So the next time you're watching trains, check out the call letters by the car number. It might be an old car from one of your favorite fallen flags. Also, it's great to see many young people going to model train shows. Some people think it's a dying hobby, but as long as people like trains, there's sure to be people that will want to run model trains.
BO is the actual reporting mark. B&O is an abbreviation used in lieu of the reporting mark, same as the C&O (reporting mark CO). & is not used in any official reporting marks, which are strictly letters.
Another really exciting episode of trains around the country for us train fans to watch and those certain people who can't wait for the trains to get out of the way take care out there around the tracks and stay safe Thank You.🇺🇲🇨🇦👋🤠👋🇨🇦🇺🇲 🚂🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🇺🇲🇨🇦💨💨
0:08 three SD75Ms and two geeps on an MOW train 0:34 CSX 1776 leading 2:10 Family Lines hopper 3:52 two KCS units trailing on a CSX train 3:58 NS 8101 leading. There are also some weird small blue things on flatbeds on this train 4:31 two locos on a BNSF automated inspection train 4:49 I've never seen these extra pipes on a covered hopper before either 5:22 heavy-duty flatbed 5:36 Chessie System boxcar 5:48 NS 8105 leading a CSX train 6:14 CSX 1973 as mid-train DPU 6:19 three CSX SD70MACs trailing 6:56 five people (two are obviously children) playing on the tracks in Wichita until a cop arrives. A train was visible from this camera too 7:27 CSX 1827 as mid-train DPU 8:20 UP, CSX, and KCS power on one train 8:39 CSX 1976 leading 8:50 one CP unit on the front and one CSX unit on the rear of this BNSF grain train 10:30 K&O 4035 putting out exhaust 11:53 El Camino hits a Ram pickup right before the train comes. 12:56 BN green SD60M 13:37 damaged autorack 14:29 CN containers on a UP intermodal. CN, UP, and Ferromex have a joint international intermodal service to compete with CPKC More moments from the Amherst train show in the last 3-ish minutes of the video
Hi Grady, Jones family, VRF clan, and everyone at the show (loved the "One Track Mind" shirt!). I was dismayed at seeing those parents in Wichita teaching their kids to be Darwins on the tracks, and then that cop showed up--heh heh heh...😏And can anyone please tell me what that piece of equipment was in Roanoke at about 13:50? Thanks in advance--another great one!
Tamper and alignment machine, raises the rails and vibrates the ballast under the ties to raise elevation, the outreach has lasers that informs the driver of right height.
Looked like the El Camino did not come to a complete stop and if not then the fault is his. Can't see if the truck stopped or not but maybe their were some alert eyes watching.
@@midnight_x_edits 40 years ago, when I worked at a particular hotel, an employee came into work, very upset because he had seen a car accident. The two cars involved were a 1974 Ford Mustang II and a 1957 Chevy Bel Air. There is deep reverence among car enthusiasts for the 1957 Chevy Bel Air. And because you can't go to some car lot and just order another 1957 Chevy Bel Air, for some, it is a tragedy when a car like this is damaged or destroyed (because it is irreplaceable). A 57 Chevy is comparable to a 1959 Château Lafite Rothschild, or a Picasso painting or the Ocean Liner Queen Mary.
The machine is a tamper used to lift the ties and the track - has vibrating fingers and mechanisms to lift the track, then the fingers go under and vibrate the ballast under the tie to fix it in place. The mechanism that looks like mast sections is used for "super elevation" - lifting one rail higher than the other in a curve to allow a train to run through a curve at a faster speed. One section is withdrawn and on top of the other - they will extend out when they get to where they need to work. You can see the the big black "board" on top of the tamper that is used to sight down the track to set the elevation while they are working. Complicated stuff but this machine is how they do it and maintain it.
I've noticed signs near stations '212.1' , '212.2', etc. Googling netted nothing on point. I'm guessing they represent something about where to stop the loco to line up the cars along the station platform, but that is WA guessing. Can anyone fill me in? Thanks.
Nice to see the Fuzz show up in Kansas. Would like to have seen them detained and produce ID if only so they get the idea that they have committed a criminal act.
Love it! And here is the news: KEM means Keep 'Em Coming! The Grab Bags I mean! Suggestion: why not conclude a Grab Bag with a piece of classical? ~ music I mean. The USA has got some of the finest symphony orchestras in the world. Don't if the other Virtual Railfan prefer the other style but just a thought. Wonder if the William Tell Overture would fit the bill...
@@1208bug Sabre Dance now that's an idea First heard that piece played by a band called Love Sculpture and I didn't realise it was originally classical for orchestra (I was a naive 9-year-old!) Thanks for commenting! 👍
And as to the traffic crash in the middle of the intersection; The white work truck had already stopped and was waiting to turn Left. The El Camino failed to stop at the stop sign, probably because they wanted to get past the gates coming down. In any case, they should have yielded to the work truck turning left, making the El Camino driver at fault for the accident. This is an excellent lesson here, to slow down and be more patient as we drive. So many times people are in a hurry that they forsake safety to save a little time. Had the El Camino driver simply waited for the train, they probably would have made it to wherever they were going a lot sooner than they did! But the crazies will hate me for saying this and they will also be the next ones to get in an accident.
It is a 4 way stop, and we can't tell for sure if the truck was already stopped for the cars before the Camino. But we know for sure that the Camino did not stop. So if the truck had stopped and it was his turn, he had the right of way and would not get the ticket.
That truck didn't even have his turn signal on when he was turning left!! The other driver thought he was going straight and probably turned his head for a second!! The truck should be at fault!!
So happy I made the Grab Bag! Thank you Virtual Railfan!
It's almost as if people's brains stop working once they approach that intersection in La Grange..😂 Hope everyone's OK ❤😊
Neither truck came to a full stop. Trying to best the gates I suppose
That’s the Louisville sprawl at work
That intersection is scary AF, people are more scared of the train than a t-bone
I Agree with Eyes and Brains Look and Think! 😂
Good to see some of the Virtual Rail people in person on the TV.
A family of Darwins and that poor El Camino.
Hate to say it but I think the El Camino was in the wrong. The white truck had started to turn left when the El Camino, after stopping, when through, probably trying to beat the train. Take a second look and let me know what you think.
Looks to me like the El Camino did not stop ..... rolled the stop sign at 10 mph or more @@jimc5694
@jimc5694 This one is tough but I think this one is 50/50. They both did not come to a complete stop and were trying to beat the signal. I think they share equal blame.
The stop line is out of the field of vision of the camera for the truck, so it's impossible to say if he did or did not come to a full stop. But the El Camino obviously rolled the stop. Truck was also fully in the intersection before EC entered the intersection. I've got the feeling the EC was looking left at the train and not straight ahead. I blame the EC.
I agree. Doesn't deserve to have such a nice elco.
It's good to see some proactive police activity on trespassers and gate-runners. Even if they were only given a verbal warning, walking or playing on active tracks is no joke. Where I worked, we only saw police take action after someone was hurt. Each of those cars weighs 286,000 lbs versus the 150-200 lb human body. It's no contest who will win in that situation. And usually in our incidents, the police were notifying the next of kin...
Thank you for posting, Captain Obvious/Mr know-it-all/dudley-do-right. If only everyone could live a perfect life.
@@chasethesky1 how bout keep your @$$ off the railroad tracks in the first place. Perfect life achieved
Wow! Excellent catching all the trains, especially 2 vehicles t-boned before a train is coming in La Grange, Kentucky, the Heritage Units, and so much more, @Virtual Railfan, thank you.
Good to see the Police preventing incidents.
Some great catches tonight, thanks VRF, especially Indiana Harbor Belt. All I need to see now is a Coil Car from the fabulous Chicago South Shore & South Bend Railroad.
It seems this country has such a large number of wonderful drivers.
11:54 America's favorite sport; running traffic lights.
@11:56 is why there are so many accidents at grade crossings. A mad dash to beat the train to go nowhere, and both of their brains stopped working.
They both didn’t stop at the stop sign, but the ram truck didn’t use a turn signal
I really enjoyed today. Thank you
On the 70 inch TV, the Camino did a rolling stop, but the pick up turning, did not have his left turn signal on. 50 - 50
11:54. As an emergencyehicle driver instructor, fault assignment wilbe interesting. Pickup did have rear left turn signal. Not blinking fast, so front turn signal was probably working but not visible. No mirror turn signalamp?
thru traffic has the right of way, turning vehicles must yield.
Both vehicles entered the crossing while the lights were flashing. Total fail all around.
I'd say it's mostly (60-70%) on the Camino for not stopping. If he had legally stopped, he would have noticed that the truck was turning
@@kwlanco2714 It is a 4 way stop. So if the truck was stopped before the Camino (which didn't stop), then they had the right of way.
At 7:24 you can hear what I believe is the air compressor, I've also been told it's the turbo kicking in. ?????
10:36 Old Smokey and only one eye (ditch light) on top of that.
Thank you!😊
Nice to meet the Wichita law enforcement informing the tourists of potential spontaneous combustion in that highly volatile area.... (see numerous past videos) it's the Bermuda Triangle for fires.
Funny to see a train in real life 2 days before this video 😂 the CSX with 2 KCS in fairport I saw in Bergenfield NJ Saturday
What was the csx units number? It had a nice horn
My day is now a success because of knowing this
Just checked out this video on my smart TV. Very good.
oh no!!!! poor Camino!
*😊❤ Nice Catches*
Nice fallen flag roadnames on some of these freight cars
@ 18:48, I lived half a block from the IHB when I was a kid living in Bellwood, Illinois. I'm just reminiscing . Have a blessed day, everyone.
That is cool, I lived a half-block from the B&O line, I wouldn't have given that up even to live in a mansion!
One thing I like the best about these grab bags is that they catch a lot of old fallen flag cars on here. Sometimes a fallen flag car doesn't even have a logo on it. I occasionally see cars marked for SCL (Seaboard Coast Line) along the CSX bowline, usually gondolas and some of those are marked maintenance of way. The Family Lines hoppers are also an occasional sight through here and every now and then also have SCL call letters. I've even seen a couple of cars marked for the C&O and one was even marked BO with a barely legible Chessie System logo on the side. (I'm not sure why it was missing the "&" between the B and O.) So the next time you're watching trains, check out the call letters by the car number. It might be an old car from one of your favorite fallen flags. Also, it's great to see many young people going to model train shows. Some people think it's a dying hobby, but as long as people like trains, there's sure to be people that will want to run model trains.
BO is the actual reporting mark. B&O is an abbreviation used in lieu of the reporting mark, same as the C&O (reporting mark CO). & is not used in any official reporting marks, which are strictly letters.
Thanks as always 😊
Great seeing the Scaletrains booth at Amherst at the end, especially the decorated samples of the SD45X, excited to get mine!
Another nice Grab Bag :) !
Hopefully, they can find the parts needed to repair that classic El Camino involved in that fender bender in La Grange.
Another really exciting episode of trains around the country for us
train fans to watch and those certain people who can't wait for the
trains to get out of the way take care out there around the tracks
and stay safe Thank You.🇺🇲🇨🇦👋🤠👋🇨🇦🇺🇲
🚂🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🇺🇲🇨🇦💨💨
The Deranged of La Grange strike again.
Great grab bag! I didn’t know you had a PTZ at Burlington. I’m adding that to my dash on my VRF 9 cam dash!
Well at least the driver was respectful enough to hang around and not use the train for 😑
🌲🍁🇮🇳🍁🍁
Nice footage!
So who had the right of way 11:55. The Dodge Ram or the late 70's El Camino?
Not the el Camino! 😢
0:08 three SD75Ms and two geeps on an MOW train
0:34 CSX 1776 leading
2:10 Family Lines hopper
3:52 two KCS units trailing on a CSX train
3:58 NS 8101 leading. There are also some weird small blue things on flatbeds on this train
4:31 two locos on a BNSF automated inspection train
4:49 I've never seen these extra pipes on a covered hopper before either
5:22 heavy-duty flatbed
5:36 Chessie System boxcar
5:48 NS 8105 leading a CSX train
6:14 CSX 1973 as mid-train DPU
6:19 three CSX SD70MACs trailing
6:56 five people (two are obviously children) playing on the tracks in Wichita until a cop arrives. A train was visible from this camera too
7:27 CSX 1827 as mid-train DPU
8:20 UP, CSX, and KCS power on one train
8:39 CSX 1976 leading
8:50 one CP unit on the front and one CSX unit on the rear of this BNSF grain train
10:30 K&O 4035 putting out exhaust
11:53 El Camino hits a Ram pickup right before the train comes.
12:56 BN green SD60M
13:37 damaged autorack
14:29 CN containers on a UP intermodal. CN, UP, and Ferromex have a joint international intermodal service to compete with CPKC
More moments from the Amherst train show in the last 3-ish minutes of the video
That guys poor El Camino. Smash ! Right in front of an approaching train too.
That el Camino driver was looking at the train and had plenty of time to stop. Both parties at fault with truck taking the higher percentage.
From the footage we saw, it appears both vehicles blew their stop signs. It's possible the white truck stopped before the footage began though.
At 2:00... A member of the Periodic Table Set of Rail Cars! Any others? Carbon, Sulphur, Hydrogen...?
Its Good to see La Grange is keeping up the standards of Stupidity we`ve come to rely on.
Some good MOW equipment in this video, K&O EMD putting on a smoke show!🛤🚂
Hi Grady, Jones family, VRF clan, and everyone at the show (loved the "One Track Mind" shirt!). I was dismayed at seeing those parents in Wichita teaching their kids to be Darwins on the tracks, and then that cop showed up--heh heh heh...😏And can anyone please tell me what that piece of equipment was in Roanoke at about 13:50? Thanks in advance--another great one!
Tamper and alignment machine, raises the rails and vibrates the ballast under the ties to raise elevation, the outreach has lasers that informs the driver of right height.
Looked like the El Camino did not come to a complete stop and if not then the fault is his. Can't see if the truck stopped or not but maybe their were some alert eyes watching.
And from the video, it looks like a well cared for car. A body shop has a bit of work to do to make it perfect again.
Love it
Did I see some old GG-1s in Roanoke?
12:00 It should be a crime to crash an El Camino or other classic vehicle. The driver should be publicly shamed.
To be fair….it is kind of a crime to crash into a car…of any kind old new or ancient
@@midnight_x_edits 40 years ago, when I worked at a particular hotel, an employee came into work, very upset because he had seen a car accident. The two cars involved were a 1974 Ford Mustang II and a 1957 Chevy Bel Air. There is deep reverence among car enthusiasts for the 1957 Chevy Bel Air. And because you can't go to some car lot and just order another 1957 Chevy Bel Air, for some, it is a tragedy when a car like this is damaged or destroyed (because it is irreplaceable).
A 57 Chevy is comparable to a 1959 Château Lafite Rothschild, or a Picasso painting or the Ocean Liner Queen Mary.
That Me My Sister, My Uncle, My Dad , My Cousin In 16:07 Thank You 😁😁
I hope you guys had a fun day at the show--it looked terrific!
LoL good ol dummies from Louisville moving to LaGrange 😂 gotta love it
hello Virtual Railfan & it's is Randy and i like yours video is cool & Thanks Virtual Railfan Friends Randy
Both drivers were at fault. When the crossing lights start flashing you're supposed to stop immediately, regardless if the gate is up or down.
what is that on the track at 14:07?
Best I can offer is some kind of track maintenance machine pulling a trailer with antenna mast sections.
@@scottfw7169 oh ok. I never seen the little trailer like that for track maintenance.
The machine is a tamper used to lift the ties and the track - has vibrating fingers and mechanisms to lift the track, then the fingers go under and vibrate the ballast under the tie to fix it in place. The mechanism that looks like mast sections is used for "super elevation" - lifting one rail higher than the other in a curve to allow a train to run through a curve at a faster speed. One section is withdrawn and on top of the other - they will extend out when they get to where they need to work. You can see the the big black "board" on top of the tamper that is used to sight down the track to set the elevation while they are working. Complicated stuff but this machine is how they do it and maintain it.
@@yyzeddThat's the explanation I was hoping for--thank you!
When the gate is down we have to stop
Busted Tracks are not playgrounds good thing they were spotted by the RR cops. The things train crew's see .
Almost didn't see that second train.
11:54
12:10 😮
@10:33 Habemus papam!
Maybe this easy. Don't turn left of right on the RR . Tracks, just saying the city does have a sign department.
12:24 rest in pieces el Camino
I'm confused. Both as to why the Wichita PD was called, and as to why that officer was labeled a darwin candidate when he/she showed up.
I've noticed signs near stations '212.1' , '212.2', etc. Googling netted nothing on point. I'm guessing they represent something about where to stop the loco to line up the cars along the station platform, but that is WA guessing. Can anyone fill me in? Thanks.
Those are mile markers and show the distance that station is from the baseline (in the case of Wichita, from Chicago)
There are bots with inappropriate profile pics in the comments. I wish UA-cam would do something about it.
I've tried reporting them, but nothing seems to be done about it.
Thank goodness the CSX train at LaGrange was rushing coils of steel to help fix the traffic accident
Nice to see the Fuzz show up in Kansas. Would like to have seen them detained and produce ID if only so they get the idea that they have committed a criminal act.
WTH IS THE NS HERITAGE UNIT DOING ON CSX
Love it! And here is the news: KEM means Keep 'Em Coming! The Grab Bags I mean! Suggestion: why not conclude a Grab Bag with a piece of classical? ~ music I mean. The USA has got some of the finest symphony orchestras in the world. Don't if the other Virtual Railfan prefer the other style but just a thought. Wonder if the William Tell Overture would fit the bill...
That would be great to go with a 6X Big Ten Curve meet! Also might work with the Sabre Dance!
@@1208bug Sabre Dance now that's an idea First heard that piece played by a band called Love Sculpture and I didn't realise it was originally classical for orchestra (I was a naive 9-year-old!)
Thanks for commenting! 👍
My favorite version of Sabre Dance is by Dave Edmonds, it's Dave awesomeness. Pls check it out!@@davidcrook5511
Modernity. A steam-representing diesel locomotive.
Lol I also thought that!
I just thought that he was trying to pass for an Alco, but he had the wrong color smoke.
Bring back Chessie!
It's the final braincell dooo do dodododo
Thank you, VR. 10:36 Mo' air pollution than a steam locomotive. What is wrong?
8:39 I caught that one actually
And as to the traffic crash in the middle of the intersection; The white work truck had already stopped and was waiting to turn Left. The El Camino failed to stop at the stop sign, probably because they wanted to get past the gates coming down. In any case, they should have yielded to the work truck turning left, making the El Camino driver at fault for the accident.
This is an excellent lesson here, to slow down and be more patient as we drive. So many times people are in a hurry that they forsake safety to save a little time. Had the El Camino driver simply waited for the train, they probably would have made it to wherever they were going a lot sooner than they did! But the crazies will hate me for saying this and they will also be the next ones to get in an accident.
Taking a left in front of oncoming traffic is ticket, all day every day.
It is a 4 way stop, and we can't tell for sure if the truck was already stopped for the cars before the Camino. But we know for sure that the Camino did not stop. So if the truck had stopped and it was his turn, he had the right of way and would not get the ticket.
Now we can add Lagrange to the score card: 😮 maybe- didn't involve the train 🤔.
Your thoughts...
Glad the people are ok but the el Camino Man 😢
CSX at he be like
4035 definitely not meeting Tier 4 emission standards!
That truck didn't even have his turn signal on when he was turning left!! The other driver thought he was going straight and probably turned his head for a second!! The truck should be at fault!!
7:57 bkty ex Ann arbor or an
Were is the model train show BLC?
When is the Federal and state EPA’s going to finally suspend Watco’s K & O? for these continuing violations.
The el Comino didn't stop at the stop sign and should bw found at fault in this accident.
Poor el camino
Poor el camino but both driver are at fault and dumb
I felt so bad for that poor elky.