1) just leave 10 min early every day 2) adjust your bloody carburetor 3) add a spacer in between the carburetor and the engine (cheap and easy to install); make sure your coolant is full; and make sure clean cold air goes through the air intake 4) ANY CAR will become unreliable after 50 years! 5) Just wear your seatbelt. I am more scared of the airbag than crashing. Classics are the best daily drivers.
You dont have a 65 cobra. You have a kit car. Also, if they overheat, its because you are a crappy Mechanic and don't know how to install a better cooling system. Pathetic video!
Even on cold days I don’t have to wait 10 minutes for my car to warm up and I’ve never had overheating problems. Old engines are reliable in the long run. If you take care of your car anything that breaks is pretty simple to fix considering the lack of electronics and sensors in classic cars.
Yeah, I don't know where he got that 10 minute warmup thing from. Even on the coldest day, the engine will be up to temp well under 10 minutes. Seems like there may be more money than brains going on here.
@@feero9680 I got a 4 cylinder so it’s not as bad as a v8. Plus if you have the carb adjusted to the temperature/time of year you can get decent gas mileage
In my lifetime I've owned multiple carbureted engines. 318, 340, 360, 383, 400, 440 in Plymouth, Dodge, Chrysler. 305, 350, 389, 427, 442, in Chevy, Pontiac, Olds. Also had a 302 Ford, just to piss my father off. At no point did any of these vehicles require a 5 minute warm up, let alone 10. Engines were warmed up when it was winter time, but that was so it would throw heat when you started driving.
Yeah and if something breaks, you could fix just about anything with a little bit of knowledge and a small tool kit, at the very least enough to be able to limp it home where you had an actual garage and parts to properly fix the problem.
They are pieces of shit, unless you have time and money to maintain the car, there's no point of a driving it. Parts are hard to find and gas aight cheap no more, and people driving 110-120kmh on highways, good luck driving yours on constant 80kmh, probably would overheat.
Yea I wouldn’t take advice from someone who’s only owned a classic car for about a year. Because if it takes 10 minutes for you to warm up your car and your car is always over heating then you might need to have your car looked at by someone who knows what they are doing.
Exactly what i was thinking 💀 ive been driving a classic for 4 years and before that i rode with my dad in his i have had no issues he mentioned except the no air bags cause i changed the steering wheel this guy has zero clue about classics and it shows😂
Exactly, I drove a 75 Chevy with 7.4L v8 for 6 years as a daily... Had no issues, but then, I grew up tuning these things lol... I've had motors apart in my living room in my 20s
Right my 57 Studebaker pickup hasn't overheated in the 10 years I owned it nor did I have to let it warm up for 10 minutes and unreliability pfft basic maintenance and new belt is all I had to do to that truck before a 22 trx didn't know what color was green also unsafe my arse besides a wee bit of whiplash I was fine the trx was totalled and all I have to do is straighten the cab buy all new windows except the drivers side and need a passengers right wheel hub but that was slowly going anyway
@@HashMaster1776 yeah. Shouldn't be a problem for me either since it's a 30 year old Honda CRX... Emphasis on should cause where I live even that is a very exotic car (I know exactly four within a 50 mile radius and two of them are/were mine)
i give my e46 m3 that much time to warm up there’s a yellow indicator on the tachometer to let you know when it’s done warming up so it does take mad long time for the oil to lube up the engine man ;-;
@@oni5909 I don't think you should be needing 10 minutes for an E46, that's a modern car. Should be a minute at most in idle, and then light driving for 5 mins or so and you should be good. The light driving helps get some heat into the transmission and driveline as well.
@@oni5909 It's not gonna hurt it, but it's just a waste of time. Unless you're in very cold weather, a minute or so is good enough before you can set off. If it's that orange oil can light, car has some issue. Google says it's probably the oil sensor that's going, apparently a common issue on E46's but I'd check it out yourself I were you.
@@PURENT alright thanks my cousin has an e39 m5 and he said that’s just how they were back in the day and that it usually takes that long and he’s had the car for about 6 years now
I drove my 68 for 20 years, never waited 10 mins to start driving, have your shit adjusted correctly and you will have not a problem, your only valid point is the mpg, i have a 331 with a tremec 5 speed, averaged 15 mpg on the hwy. Mid 2000's trucks get about the same.
Lol my pops has a 61 F250 with a 352 and it gives 10 miles per gallon regardless. It could be empty or hauling three cubic yards of whatever and it doesn't make a difference.
My 1983 Chevy K30 only gets about 7mpg. But it's a 3 spd with 4:10's. Only it's now getting a Cummins 12 valve and NV4500 swap, so it'll probably go up to around 17mpg maybe 20mpg.
I'm not gonna hate on him for being new to classics, but I definitely feel like he should give it a lot more time before he tries to go and make an opinion that people could bias to.
Definitely, he needs more time owning one. But I agree they’re probably not great first cars and they do tend to break down alot even with constant maintenance.
Safety is it!! Doesn't take 10min. They have the same cooling system as new cars. Post a new short when you talk to an old school mechanic and own muscle cars for 30 years.
Classic cars are not dangerous. PEOPLE ARE! We just live in an age where everybody's protected by airbags, lane correction systems, accident avoidance systems. There's so much going on in our cars and in our lives now that people have become the danger to themselves. A car wouldn't kill somebody just like a gun wouldn't kill somebody if there wasn't someone behind it.
@@DoctorDipshits Well it's pretty hard to get in a wreck when the only time the car spends while on is sitting in a driveway, and the only time it's moving is on the back of a flatbed truck.
4k of steel won't stop you from slamming into the steering wheel. Classic cars also aren't actually better at surviving crashes despite being made of steel. Look up crash tests between classics and modern cars. Both will turn into accordions when they slam into eachother at 45mph. The only difference being that the driver of the modern car would still be alive.
@@purehitman24 that's not how sarcasm works. It's also much more difficult to detect sarcasm in a comment that can't convey tone than it is in person. So not being able to pick up on sarcasm from a comment does not mean that Sarcasm "slips past your daily life" as you have stupidly claimed.
@@Mika-ph6ku there's literally a 😂 at the end. Anybody with an ounce of sense could easily put together that safety standards are higher on today's vehicles then previous ones. It's literally one the main marketing points in car sales. You just wanted to "be correct" and allowed that to decipher the context for yourself. It's not that it's "harder" it's that your narrow view isn't able to get it of it's own way. This is made obvious by just your last several comments across videos. You can have the last word now, it's obvious you need it.
Disagree with everything. "I've been owning classic cars for about a year or so." I'm basically an expert now. I planted a garden. I'm basically a farmer now.
@@reikers older Camaro s are cool.Gad tanks are around twenty gallons capacity and the car gets about 18mpg depending on the engine size and whether you rump on it or drive it easy.
@@mathewjames7553 18 mpg??? That's like 13 l/100km here in Europe. Fck that's a lot. Listen I found a 1955 LT Camaro, that has a literal gas tank (not nitro, just gas, natural gas), new interior, clean engine at only 6500$, do you think it's a good deal?
As already previously mentioned, 10 minute warm ups are not required. I have a 700 hp 427 sbc stroker that gets 14 mpg and never goes over 180 degrees. I wouldn’t consider daily driving it though.
Um i dont have to let my engine warm up my carburetor starts and runs like fuel injection its a 1978 k10 with a 350 small block Chevy with a rochester quadrajet carburetor
I have a 57 F-100 that is now my daily driver. Had a 2006 F-150 that would break down so often the hood was open more than the truck was driving. Got worse milage too. I like to say 50 years of engineering evolution to make a truck slower, less reliable, less efficient, and less comfortable. I will always drive a classic over anything made of plastic. They're worth it
1. 10 mins. I fire up my 69 electra. Let it run on choke for 15 seconds, kick the choke off and throw it in drive. 2. Mpg. I get about 13mpg around town and 18 on the highway. In a 4300lb. Barge with a big block. 3.overheat. mine never goes above 180 on the original radiator. 4.unreliable. hasn't left me stranded in 4 years and even if it did all the basic parts. Gaskets, ignition modules, filters, ect.. is all available at the parts store same day or 1 day out. 5.safety. don't crash.
For any car, the question is never “can I daily this” it’s always “what do I need in a daily”. If you just need to get point a to point b then you can daily any car in reality. Unless you need something specific (i.e. a work truck or a big passenger vehicle) then every car has its pros and cons to work through. To look at any car and say “you can’t daily drive that” is wild to me cuz if that was true then they wouldn’t have made to pass inspection
I wouldnt say this is true in every regard. You wouldn't really be able to daily a stock model T if your route takes you on Interstate. You literally can't reach the speed limit and you could actually be pulled over and ticketed for going too slow.
I have an '83 truck I'm swapping a 12 valve Cummins and a 5spd manual into. I dream all the time about the first drive I'll take in it once it's done. It's hard to be patient but we gotta put in the work first.
Insurance on my 2 modern vehicles is 375 per month. My dad drove a 60 somthing plymouth valiant and his insurance was 100$ a year. I wish I had a antique car.
Tbh most of the issues you mentioned is just poor maintenance. I daily drove my 1978 Cherokee for 2 years. All I did to it was a carb rebuild, and replaced the gas tank and rear axle because the pinion bearings were destroyed. I never had a single issue except poor gas mileage 😂
This isn't always true. I daily a 66 mustang with a cammed 302, no power brakes or power steering and have none of these issues except for it being more dangerous in an accident. My temp gauge stays below half even when im cruising 60 mph at 2500 rpms, i get between 13-16 mpg, it only takes about 2 minutes maximum to warm it up from a cold start and ive never been broken down in it.
I don't even consider it more dangerous, because new cars fold easier anyway, I just consider it a tragedy because their insurance probably can't afford to pay
This is a you problem, that’s it. Get your vehicles fixed. I’ve driven dozens of carbureted vehicles for decades including a 12 second ‘78 caprice. I’ve had none of these issues you’re listing other than mpg of the caprice. Fix your shit.
@@reiseclark4908 I have never seen a Weber not work but I must agree. It all depends. Every engine has different needs and sometimes the OEM can suite them or it is up to us to find something retrofit or aftermarket.
You don't have to wait 10 minutes... if you've got an electric choke just go, engine will warm up faster. Sound like you need to tune that carb correctly.
I daily a 63 C10, 16 mpg, and it's got enough horses to out run a lot of these newer vehicles and can easily keep up with traffic and has always started right up. If you want a classic get a classic. Just make sure it's the right choice for you. They don't have the same comfort levels as these new vehicles do. If you want your nice quiet ride, go for new, if you want American muscle, go get you a Chevy or a Ford, a Dodge if you can afford it.
I’ve had my Chevelle for 22 years. It’s got a 600 HP small block, and 3:73 gears. Drag radials and skinnies on front. Yes, it’s terrible on gas. It’s never overheated and it’s been driven in the hot humid summers of the Midwest and most recently, in the middle of southern Arizona summers. You don’t need to warm it up for 10 minutes. While I agree it’s impractical to daily drive, you’ve literally got no idea what you’re talking about.
Me seeing this video: Tell me you really don't know understand how to daily an older car without actually saying you don't understand how to daily an older car...🙄🙄🙄 For one, no choke equipped carbureted vehicle that is properly maintained will ever take 10 minutes to warm up enough to drive, unless you plan on daily driving in Antarctica. That might be part of the reason you get 8MPG in your classics.🤣 Secondly, and this ties in with my first comment, proper maintenance is key. An old points or even an early HEI and carb setup will not break down any more often than a newer vehicle in most cases. The one point I will 100% agree with is safety concerns. Newer vehicles are exponentially more safer than ones built even 30 years ago. Not to mention the added conveniences of modern design and safery standards. But if you're overly concerned about all of these things, maybe owning and driving a classic car just isn't for you? 🤷♂️
I daily drive a 1973 Ford mustang coupe had a 302 in it with Holley 600 cfm double pumper, Edelbrock performer rpm intake, hooker competition headers and knock off flowmaster 40 series exhaust all to the back, from 2017 in my senior year of high school up till 2020. I didn't had any issues with it and yes I had broke down sometimes but it still runs and moves like a champ to this day, own it for 14 years with my dad and I built it in restoration.
I daily drove my 1954 oldsmobile from March thru November in 2021 as my only registered and insured car, over 2500 trouble free miles in the thing. has a 350 smallblock from ~1970 with a 2 barrel carb and other than a brake rebuild in 2006 its basically stock and unrestored. was a little cold blooded when it got down into the 30s but a shot of ether in the morning and I was on my way to work. averaged 13mpg with a 5.7 liter v8 in a 2 ton car lol
Now I own a 1980 Ford F250 with a 351 mod and I’ve never had to warm the engine for 10 min! And if they break down it’s usually cheap and easy. Safety, well how didn’t they die back then? They are stronger built than new ones!
My dad daily a 1970 Volvo P1800 for a few months and it did really good. Never overheated, it was fuel injected so cold start was not a problem. Overall a great car.
I got a 67 c10 327 and it's completely stock other than the 4 barrel carb. It has never overheated, it's never broke down, it gets about 12 mpg average. I would trust it to go anywhere. Its Way more reliable than than having 8 injectors and 8 fucking ign coils
I'm actually curious about the cooling, warmup,and reliability issues. I drive my classics daily and never experience these issues. Even I'm my 100 degree summers my classics will stay around 180 even in traffic and on cold days It really only takes 3 or 4 minutes to come to operating temp. And my cars rarely break down or have major issues. Just regular maintenance and they keep running just fine.
Not quite a classic, but my '91 dodge cummins, though it's had electrical issues that I've resolved, has never broken down en route, gets 20 - 25 mpg depending on temperature and how I drive, doesn't need to warm up unless it's below freezing, and never overheats. Basic care and routine maintenance makes this possible. Top of the oil, change the filters, replace damaged/warn parts before they completely break and damage other things, etc. Also the only injury I've ever received in a vehicle was from a freaking air bag, and it would have caved my nose in, and probably broken my front teeth if I hadn't jerked my head back when I realized it was about to go off. Luckily, it only caused surface damage that healed after a few weeks.
Having daily driven classic cars for 15 years, I have a few takes on this. 1. Carbs with automatic choke. Not perfect, but haven't failed me even in Finnish winter. You only need actual pre-warming in freezing temperatures. 2. My 1,5 litre V4 sips a measly 7 l/100km (around 34 MPG) so not all classic cars are equal. Even my 2 litre turbo gets 10 l/100km (23,5 MPG). 3. Overheat, yep. Not much standing in traffic with these. Though it's nice how quickly they warm up in the winter. 4. There's not much to actually brake down, but they do need more maintenance. And when something does brake they're much easier to fix yourself rather than taking it to a shop. I've mended a distributor with a hammer. 5. Big yep. But then there's also motorcycles to compare to, so kind of not a big deal actually.
My old 90 f150 that was fuel injected had to wait about 10 minutes before I could drive or it would immediately die it’s the same thing with my brother in laws 2010 f150
As a classic car owner for about 8 years, they're great. I'm in a state where traffic only happens in the urban areas that are a couple hundred miles away. I'm able to open up my bigger engine vehicles perfectally fine. I have a commuter car for driving to work or having to go to the city. But everything else doesn't leave the local area unless it's for a car show/event.
If your car is overheating frequently, you might have issues with the thermostat or pump. Try flushing your cooling system and see the quality of fluid coming out. Older cars also have cooling fans attached to the water pump pulley, so the cooling is directly controlled by engine RPM. An aftermarket electric fan kit might be worth your while if you spend a lot of time in low-idle/high-heat situations
I get 57 MPG in my 1992 Volkswagen Polo, a carburated car and I dont warm it up, MPG may varry on every car, its the most reliable car out of everyone in the family tree and its by far the oldest, it never once overheated on me aswell
Reason # 1 to 4: do some maintenance. 1. No. Most carburetors have something called an automatic choke. 2. Depends on your tune and setup. And of course your right foot. 3. Clean your cooling system and check your radiator. And your tune. 4. Maintenance maintenance maintenance.
Not having air bags is big selling point for me. Especially after the Takata Scandal and the recent ACR and Delphi air bag problems being discovered. That's one of the reasons I'm so Happy with my old Ford Del Rey Ghia for the good part of those 2 years with it. Never count on crash safety, if you want to live make sure to drive safe and avoid accidents in the first place. Works every time and the can never needs body work.
I have a 65 Chevelle SS Convertible and before I had it torn apart for paint I did 800 mile round trips with it with no problems at all. It has a ZZ6 Crate Engine with a 200r4 with overdrive.
Okay... I drive a 1977 AMC Matador! Daily drive! Although I AM mechanically inclined, it's still worth mentioning that they are still normal cars. Yes there are more problems. But parts are not necessarily hard to come by, and theres no "programming a new battery to be accepted by the computer". So you can do a lot yourself. I'm 16, and owned classics for about three years. I can say that it seems to be a misconception that you have to "let them warm up for 10 minutes" They can be totally daily driven, and long as you have money for gas, and do not care about safety in any way. He was totally right about that.
As a person that’s building a 67 Mustang. I would just engine swap to another V8 or whatever. Me and my dad are using a engine that went in my dads drag car.
1. Wait 10min for a carb vehicle to warm up? Other than a few pumps and maybe a few cranks when it's been sitting to start there is no required warm up. Like any other vehicle don't drive it hard when cold. Warm up time is determined by aluminum vs steel. 2. Cooling issues. You have to go much further back to get to vehicles that have issues with sitting at a light and overheating. Air-cooled motors in cars have been gone for a very very long time. If your classic is overheating you have an issue.
I had to daily my 84 Project Fiero for a month while trying to fix my daily. Fun to drive and got some comments, but it is a bit testy right now when it comes to the starter.
I dalied a 1960 Mini, and a '69 Camaro for over 15 years. I live in SoCal, never had issues with overheating. Never needed to warm up my engine. They had mild tunes. If you have a high end tune, it is much less practical to drive daily. Worked for years around race cars, and they didn't even need a 10 minute warm up before a race.
I owned a classic for 2-3 years, im 17 and my 1971 c10 was a daily. I put around 10k miles on it with a new engine and a lot of new shit I don’t want to type. Most reliable and badass car I’ve owned!!!
Literally had a real cobra 427, daily it for 2 months in the summer of 2018 … i one a built 289 manual 4 speed 65 mustang , daily that all year round !! Also had a 1972 mercury cougar 302 … daily that form 2017-2020
Yeah I've had classics my whole life man. Im 32 btw. You'd be getting your shit checked by someone who knows what they're doing if you got overheating issues on a classic. Those damn things were designed to breathe. The old 460 me and my pops built, could sit in the middle of traffic while hauling a boat on a hot summer day and be fine. In a full-size pickup. And she was cranking 500 horse no problem.
Modernized engines, electric fans, upgraded rad, port injection can truly make these amazing for just getting in and driving but the trade off is monumental, it's hard to get over keeping the car original. My svt focus is why I understand bc I want to keep it as original as possible.
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1) just leave 10 min early every day
2) adjust your bloody carburetor
3) add a spacer in between the carburetor and the engine (cheap and easy to install); make sure your coolant is full; and make sure clean cold air goes through the air intake
4) ANY CAR will become unreliable after 50 years!
5) Just wear your seatbelt. I am more scared of the airbag than crashing.
Classics are the best daily drivers.
Depends on the classic, if your driving something like an omni
You dont have a 65 cobra. You have a kit car. Also, if they overheat, its because you are a crappy Mechanic and don't know how to install a better cooling system. Pathetic video!
@Phuck You who you talking to D BAG?
Even on cold days I don’t have to wait 10 minutes for my car to warm up and I’ve never had overheating problems. Old engines are reliable in the long run. If you take care of your car anything that breaks is pretty simple to fix considering the lack of electronics and sensors in classic cars.
Yeah, I don't know where he got that 10 minute warmup thing from. Even on the coldest day, the engine will be up to temp well under 10 minutes. Seems like there may be more money than brains going on here.
That mpg tho. Im not taking that
@@feero9680 I got a 4 cylinder so it’s not as bad as a v8. Plus if you have the carb adjusted to the temperature/time of year you can get decent gas mileage
So basically use the Sherman tank tactics for long reliability?
I drive a square body with a 350 in it and only think I wait to warm up is the heater in the winter😂
In my lifetime I've owned multiple carbureted engines. 318, 340, 360, 383, 400, 440 in Plymouth, Dodge, Chrysler. 305, 350, 389, 427, 442, in Chevy, Pontiac, Olds. Also had a 302 Ford, just to piss my father off.
At no point did any of these vehicles require a 5 minute warm up, let alone 10. Engines were warmed up when it was winter time, but that was so it would throw heat when you started driving.
Right same here and I live in Alaska I head 300 more miles north of me and turn off the engine overnight oil will freeze in the engine
@@ev0luti0arygaming89holy crap. How cold does it need to be for oil to freeze? 😂 switch to full synthetic.
Everyone always acts like that classics are total pieces of shit, yet back in the day when those were everyone's daily, they ran fine
Yeah and if something breaks, you could fix just about anything with a little bit of knowledge and a small tool kit, at the very least enough to be able to limp it home where you had an actual garage and parts to properly fix the problem.
Right. My 98 olds was a tank. Safety? Please....
They don't take the time to learn exactly how they work and dismiss the technology as junk.
They are pieces of shit, unless you have time and money to maintain the car, there's no point of a driving it. Parts are hard to find and gas aight cheap no more, and people driving 110-120kmh on highways, good luck driving yours on constant 80kmh, probably would overheat.
@@spbfce why does everyone say overheat? Idiots
Yea I wouldn’t take advice from someone who’s only owned a classic car for about a year. Because if it takes 10 minutes for you to warm up your car and your car is always over heating then you might need to have your car looked at by someone who knows what they are doing.
Exactly what i was thinking 💀 ive been driving a classic for 4 years and before that i rode with my dad in his i have had no issues he mentioned except the no air bags cause i changed the steering wheel this guy has zero clue about classics and it shows😂
He's a yuppy kid. Clueless about classics
Exactly, I drove a 75 Chevy with 7.4L v8 for 6 years as a daily... Had no issues, but then, I grew up tuning these things lol... I've had motors apart in my living room in my 20s
Totally right, of your class is keeps overheating there is probably something wrong with it.
Right my 57 Studebaker pickup hasn't overheated in the 10 years I owned it nor did I have to let it warm up for 10 minutes and unreliability pfft basic maintenance and new belt is all I had to do to that truck before a 22 trx didn't know what color was green also unsafe my arse besides a wee bit of whiplash I was fine the trx was totalled and all I have to do is straighten the cab buy all new windows except the drivers side and need a passengers right wheel hub but that was slowly going anyway
I drive an oldie as a daily myself and it's nice to drive but a pain to get parts for it. And the old lady had more reliable days...
Yeah thats why I sold the wife and bought that part car 🚗 🙃
That’s why you buy all the parts you can and stack em up. Luckily I don’t have any problems finding any parts on my Chevy 😆😉
@@HashMaster1776 yeah. Shouldn't be a problem for me either since it's a 30 year old Honda CRX...
Emphasis on should cause where I live even that is a very exotic car (I know exactly four within a 50 mile radius and two of them are/were mine)
My car isn't even a classic an I can relate to that lol
@@snowballthecat7542 I got a buddy with an 88 and a 89
10 mins to warm up your car?! I get in and go in my Camaro. I daily my Camaro in Southern California traffic and it runs extremely cool.
i give my e46 m3 that much time to warm up there’s a yellow indicator on the tachometer to let you know when it’s done warming up so it does take mad long time for the oil to lube up the engine man ;-;
@@oni5909 I don't think you should be needing 10 minutes for an E46, that's a modern car. Should be a minute at most in idle, and then light driving for 5 mins or so and you should be good. The light driving helps get some heat into the transmission and driveline as well.
@@PURENT :o i mean is it bad to keep it idling that long? i mean why else would that indicator be there then tho?
@@oni5909 It's not gonna hurt it, but it's just a waste of time. Unless you're in very cold weather, a minute or so is good enough before you can set off.
If it's that orange oil can light, car has some issue. Google says it's probably the oil sensor that's going, apparently a common issue on E46's but I'd check it out yourself I were you.
@@PURENT alright thanks my cousin has an e39 m5 and he said that’s just how they were back in the day and that it usually takes that long and he’s had the car for about 6 years now
I drove my 68 for 20 years, never waited 10 mins to start driving, have your shit adjusted correctly and you will have not a problem, your only valid point is the mpg, i have a 331 with a tremec 5 speed, averaged 15 mpg on the hwy. Mid 2000's trucks get about the same.
Hell even a brand new V8 3/4 ton gets about 15 average.
@@Bloodbain88 But keep in mind that the one has about fifty years on the other.
Lol my pops has a 61 F250 with a 352 and it gives 10 miles per gallon regardless. It could be empty or hauling three cubic yards of whatever and it doesn't make a difference.
My 1983 Chevy K30 only gets about 7mpg. But it's a 3 spd with 4:10's.
Only it's now getting a Cummins 12 valve and NV4500 swap, so it'll probably go up to around 17mpg maybe 20mpg.
at one time most these cars was a daily.
“I’ve been owning classic cars for about a year or so” skip
I'm not gonna hate on him for being new to classics, but I definitely feel like he should give it a lot more time before he tries to go and make an opinion that people could bias to.
Definitely, he needs more time owning one. But I agree they’re probably not great first cars and they do tend to break down alot even with constant maintenance.
His reasoning made sense though...
@@offbeat-barnacle He's right
At least he's being honest! 😄
65 cobra? You forgot to add replica to it
the engine is from 1965 tho
@@dinhospring doesn’t look like the original
@@Romizler it’s most likely not the original
Why are you guys bitches no lie do you guys have a fucken cobra 🐍 I don’t fucken think 💭 so 🙃🤔
There's only 2 in the world and I saw multiple so it is a replica
I think all the issues you listed (except safety) are specific to your cars.
I daily 2 classics and I have none of those issues
Safety is it!! Doesn't take 10min. They have the same cooling system as new cars. Post a new short when you talk to an old school mechanic and own muscle cars for 30 years.
Not sure about the cooling system there bud
Yeah facts he needs to redo half this shi is completely false
Safety is not an issue for me I drive a classic and the steel is way more safer than the shit they have out today
If it has to warm up for 10 minutes something is wrong
@@kevinadams7997 yes if I'm not mistaken it would be a thermostat stuck open
Classic cars are not dangerous. PEOPLE ARE! We just live in an age where everybody's protected by airbags, lane correction systems, accident avoidance systems. There's so much going on in our cars and in our lives now that people have become the danger to themselves. A car wouldn't kill somebody just like a gun wouldn't kill somebody if there wasn't someone behind it.
I've never had to wait 10 mins to drive my non fuel injected car lol.
No wonder this man is filling every mother day. Man let’s the engine idle for 10min
Shoot I usually give it 2-3 mins to warm up. And in the winter I’ll wait til the heater starts blowing warm air haha
@@TylerGamer765 in my Z 2min is all I give it.
Imo better to drive to warm it up.
“No wonder this man is filling every mother” 🧐📸
@@LittleVictorMinecraft deadass just noticed that.
Those old carb engines took look to warm up and run right
I can tell you for a fact that people who own classic cars don't give a shit about them not having airbags
They will when they end up a quadriplegic.
@@DoctorDipshits Well it's pretty hard to get in a wreck when the only time the car spends while on is sitting in a driveway, and the only time it's moving is on the back of a flatbed truck.
True, why let the car sit in the yard all day making it rusty again?
Air bags? Who needs those when you're driving 4k of steel around 😂
4k of steel won't stop you from slamming into the steering wheel. Classic cars also aren't actually better at surviving crashes despite being made of steel. Look up crash tests between classics and modern cars. Both will turn into accordions when they slam into eachother at 45mph. The only difference being that the driver of the modern car would still be alive.
@@Mika-ph6ku I'm sorry that sarcasm slips past your daily life.
@@purehitman24 that's not how sarcasm works. It's also much more difficult to detect sarcasm in a comment that can't convey tone than it is in person. So not being able to pick up on sarcasm from a comment does not mean that Sarcasm "slips past your daily life" as you have stupidly claimed.
@@Mika-ph6ku there's literally a 😂 at the end. Anybody with an ounce of sense could easily put together that safety standards are higher on today's vehicles then previous ones.
It's literally one the main marketing points in car sales.
You just wanted to "be correct" and allowed that to decipher the context for yourself.
It's not that it's "harder" it's that your narrow view isn't able to get it of it's own way. This is made obvious by just your last several comments across videos.
You can have the last word now, it's obvious you need it.
You lost me at owning a classic car for a year!?!🤔🤨😳🤣🤣
The embodiment of daddys money
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Hit the nail on the head👍
Him:old cars are unreliable.
Old Corollas:Are you shure about that
Disagree with everything. "I've been owning classic cars for about a year or so." I'm basically an expert now.
I planted a garden. I'm basically a farmer now.
You forgot to say you watched 'Yellowstone' so you are a cattle rancher to my friend!
I want to buy a 1st or 3rd gen Camaro, and the only thing I care about is the consumption? Is it expensive to fill the tank?
@@reikers older Camaro s are cool.Gad tanks are around twenty gallons capacity and the car gets about 18mpg depending on the engine size and whether you rump on it or drive it easy.
@@mathewjames7553 18 mpg??? That's like 13 l/100km here in Europe. Fck that's a lot. Listen I found a 1955 LT Camaro, that has a literal gas tank (not nitro, just gas, natural gas), new interior, clean engine at only 6500$, do you think it's a good deal?
@@mathewjames7553 the gas tank reduces the horse power, but it should reduce the mpg by at least 3-4 gallons.
Bro, your dads cars are badass!🤘
As already previously mentioned, 10 minute warm ups are not required. I have a 700 hp 427 sbc stroker that gets 14 mpg and never goes over 180 degrees. I wouldn’t consider daily driving it though.
Um i dont have to let my engine warm up my carburetor starts and runs like fuel injection its a 1978 k10 with a 350 small block Chevy with a rochester quadrajet carburetor
Cut him some slack. He’s a Ford guy
@@paulschiska7638 even us ford guys know it don't take 10 mins to warm a engine
@@Coronet_shop 😂 at least someone has a sense of humor
I drove a 65 mustang daily for about 15 years, had very little trouble. What trouble I did have was cheap and easy to fix.
Yup no airbags, we die like real men!
Modern day car check engine lights trying not to activate for no reason every 2 seconds: 😭
The big difference here: A lot of us grew up driving these classic cars everyday, before this guy was even born.😎
Bingooo
i daily my 68 ford pickup its very reliable and it gets the same fuel mileage as a new pickup
The gas mileage is expected. I feel like the manufacturers didn’t plan for gas to be $7 a gallon
Well that and the gearing is usually really low so you're screaming at modern highway speeds.
No airbags........ that's not a problem, no damn computer chips either. Sounds like pluses to me.
Mane I got a 84 mustang with the stock motor and race suspension and I daily that thing everyday. Absolutely perfect!
Dairying an 84 with race suspension... Does your ass hurt after every drive? 😂
I have a 57 F-100 that is now my daily driver. Had a 2006 F-150 that would break down so often the hood was open more than the truck was driving. Got worse milage too. I like to say 50 years of engineering evolution to make a truck slower, less reliable, less efficient, and less comfortable. I will always drive a classic over anything made of plastic. They're worth it
If your having over heating issues then you have a problem with a component of the cooling system it's not because it's old
Agreed, all 3 of my classics don't overheat no matter what I do
1. 10 mins. I fire up my 69 electra. Let it run on choke for 15 seconds, kick the choke off and throw it in drive.
2. Mpg. I get about 13mpg around town and 18 on the highway. In a 4300lb. Barge with a big block.
3.overheat. mine never goes above 180 on the original radiator.
4.unreliable. hasn't left me stranded in 4 years and even if it did all the basic parts. Gaskets, ignition modules, filters, ect.. is all available at the parts store same day or 1 day out.
5.safety. don't crash.
ive got a 70 deville sedan as my first car. its also my first project car... so much wrong with it, but its all fixable and i love it.
Once upon a time they were everyone's daily.
For any car, the question is never “can I daily this” it’s always “what do I need in a daily”. If you just need to get point a to point b then you can daily any car in reality. Unless you need something specific (i.e. a work truck or a big passenger vehicle) then every car has its pros and cons to work through. To look at any car and say “you can’t daily drive that” is wild to me cuz if that was true then they wouldn’t have made to pass inspection
I wouldnt say this is true in every regard. You wouldn't really be able to daily a stock model T if your route takes you on Interstate. You literally can't reach the speed limit and you could actually be pulled over and ticketed for going too slow.
I've had my 85 fiero v6 for 2 years never left me stranded. Gets like 20 miles a gallon. Bought for $600.
Hey you got it for a steal of a price. Probably had to put work into it. I say this as so.eone who has a 1982 el Camino with issues of its own.
I have a 78 Camaro and it’s my first car but I’m still building it but it’s been my dream car and I can’t wait to drive it
I have an '83 truck I'm swapping a 12 valve Cummins and a 5spd manual into. I dream all the time about the first drive I'll take in it once it's done. It's hard to be patient but we gotta put in the work first.
They can't be that bad if they've lasted all those years.
Not to expensive when you just get daddy's money
Insurance on my 2 modern vehicles is 375 per month. My dad drove a 60 somthing plymouth valiant and his insurance was 100$ a year. I wish I had a antique car.
They're as reliable as you make them. I.e if you're having reliability issues then you fid a bad job🥴
Tbh most of the issues you mentioned is just poor maintenance. I daily drove my 1978 Cherokee for 2 years. All I did to it was a carb rebuild, and replaced the gas tank and rear axle because the pinion bearings were destroyed. I never had a single issue except poor gas mileage 😂
This isn't always true. I daily a 66 mustang with a cammed 302, no power brakes or power steering and have none of these issues except for it being more dangerous in an accident. My temp gauge stays below half even when im cruising 60 mph at 2500 rpms, i get between 13-16 mpg, it only takes about 2 minutes maximum to warm it up from a cold start and ive never been broken down in it.
As a FE owner I back this post
As a 66 owner I can confirm, mine is a cammed 289, I ran open headers for a while and got a solid 10-11mpg lol
In California is worth driving a classic car because it's not required getting smog
I don't even consider it more dangerous, because new cars fold easier anyway, I just consider it a tragedy because their insurance probably can't afford to pay
This is a you problem, that’s it. Get your vehicles fixed. I’ve driven dozens of carbureted vehicles for decades including a 12 second ‘78 caprice. I’ve had none of these issues you’re listing other than mpg of the caprice.
Fix your shit.
I thought he was going to say “And they don’t have cup holders.”
It depends on the car and engine and carburetor. If you’re equipped with a Weber 2 barrel. Startups are immediate and Fuel economy is relatively high.
Depends on engine and vehicle
@@reiseclark4908 I have never seen a Weber not work but I must agree. It all depends. Every engine has different needs and sometimes the OEM can suite them or it is up to us to find something retrofit or aftermarket.
You don't have to wait 10 minutes... if you've got an electric choke just go, engine will warm up faster. Sound like you need to tune that carb correctly.
Just means you ain't fix it right if it overheated constantly
I own a 78 mgb and it gets well over 20 mpg city. Takes no time to warm up and visibility is amazing compared to modern cars
Really it just sounds like he doesn't want other people to get into classic cars I have several classics and I daily then all the time.
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I daily a 63 C10, 16 mpg, and it's got enough horses to out run a lot of these newer vehicles and can easily keep up with traffic and has always started right up. If you want a classic get a classic. Just make sure it's the right choice for you. They don't have the same comfort levels as these new vehicles do. If you want your nice quiet ride, go for new, if you want American muscle, go get you a Chevy or a Ford, a Dodge if you can afford it.
I've had this pickup since 2018, a while on it so far haven't finished it yet. But it's a great cruiser and drag truck
My 71 f350 gets abused and it hasn’t broke down for me
I’ve had my Chevelle for 22 years. It’s got a 600 HP small block, and 3:73 gears. Drag radials and skinnies on front. Yes, it’s terrible on gas. It’s never overheated and it’s been driven in the hot humid summers of the Midwest and most recently, in the middle of southern Arizona summers. You don’t need to warm it up for 10 minutes. While I agree it’s impractical to daily drive, you’ve literally got no idea what you’re talking about.
Me seeing this video: Tell me you really don't know understand how to daily an older car without actually saying you don't understand how to daily an older car...🙄🙄🙄
For one, no choke equipped carbureted vehicle that is properly maintained will ever take 10 minutes to warm up enough to drive, unless you plan on daily driving in Antarctica. That might be part of the reason you get 8MPG in your classics.🤣
Secondly, and this ties in with my first comment, proper maintenance is key. An old points or even an early HEI and carb setup will not break down any more often than a newer vehicle in most cases.
The one point I will 100% agree with is safety concerns. Newer vehicles are exponentially more safer than ones built even 30 years ago. Not to mention the added conveniences of modern design and safery standards.
But if you're overly concerned about all of these things, maybe owning and driving a classic car just isn't for you? 🤷♂️
I daily drive a 1973 Ford mustang coupe had a 302 in it with Holley 600 cfm double pumper, Edelbrock performer rpm intake, hooker competition headers and knock off flowmaster 40 series exhaust all to the back, from 2017 in my senior year of high school up till 2020. I didn't had any issues with it and yes I had broke down sometimes but it still runs and moves like a champ to this day, own it for 14 years with my dad and I built it in restoration.
Nice cars
I daily drove my 1954 oldsmobile from March thru November in 2021 as my only registered and insured car, over 2500 trouble free miles in the thing. has a 350 smallblock from ~1970 with a 2 barrel carb and other than a brake rebuild in 2006 its basically stock and unrestored. was a little cold blooded when it got down into the 30s but a shot of ether in the morning and I was on my way to work. averaged 13mpg with a 5.7 liter v8 in a 2 ton car lol
Bro how long does it take u to come up with all the 5 reasons 🤔 😒 😆
If you daily a classic Mercedes Benz most of the issues are solved
I daily a classic and i get no problems and i never had to wait for the engine to warm up
Now I own a 1980 Ford F250 with a 351 mod and I’ve never had to warm the engine for 10 min! And if they break down it’s usually cheap and easy. Safety, well how didn’t they die back then? They are stronger built than new ones!
Tbf his cars are MUCH older than your truck so it makes sense they’d have more issues
Come on son, does your dad know you in his garage!?
My dad daily a 1970 Volvo P1800 for a few months and it did really good. Never overheated, it was fuel injected so cold start was not a problem. Overall a great car.
Who needs airbags, we die like a real man. 😂
I got a 67 c10 327 and it's completely stock other than the 4 barrel carb. It has never overheated, it's never broke down, it gets about 12 mpg average. I would trust it to go anywhere. Its Way more reliable than than having 8 injectors and 8 fucking ign coils
I'm actually curious about the cooling, warmup,and reliability issues. I drive my classics daily and never experience these issues. Even I'm my 100 degree summers my classics will stay around 180 even in traffic and on cold days It really only takes 3 or 4 minutes to come to operating temp. And my cars rarely break down or have major issues. Just regular maintenance and they keep running just fine.
I had a 70 SS396 with a 4.88 for 7 years. Loved every second of it
Not quite a classic, but my '91 dodge cummins, though it's had electrical issues that I've resolved, has never broken down en route, gets 20 - 25 mpg depending on temperature and how I drive, doesn't need to warm up unless it's below freezing, and never overheats. Basic care and routine maintenance makes this possible. Top of the oil, change the filters, replace damaged/warn parts before they completely break and damage other things, etc.
Also the only injury I've ever received in a vehicle was from a freaking air bag, and it would have caved my nose in, and probably broken my front teeth if I hadn't jerked my head back when I realized it was about to go off. Luckily, it only caused surface damage that healed after a few weeks.
Having daily driven classic cars for 15 years, I have a few takes on this.
1. Carbs with automatic choke. Not perfect, but haven't failed me even in Finnish winter. You only need actual pre-warming in freezing temperatures.
2. My 1,5 litre V4 sips a measly 7 l/100km (around 34 MPG) so not all classic cars are equal. Even my 2 litre turbo gets 10 l/100km (23,5 MPG).
3. Overheat, yep. Not much standing in traffic with these. Though it's nice how quickly they warm up in the winter.
4. There's not much to actually brake down, but they do need more maintenance. And when something does brake they're much easier to fix yourself rather than taking it to a shop. I've mended a distributor with a hammer.
5. Big yep. But then there's also motorcycles to compare to, so kind of not a big deal actually.
My old 90 f150 that was fuel injected had to wait about 10 minutes before I could drive or it would immediately die it’s the same thing with my brother in laws 2010 f150
As a classic car owner for about 8 years, they're great. I'm in a state where traffic only happens in the urban areas that are a couple hundred miles away. I'm able to open up my bigger engine vehicles perfectally fine. I have a commuter car for driving to work or having to go to the city. But everything else doesn't leave the local area unless it's for a car show/event.
I bought my 1959 Edsel Ranger as my first car when I was 14. Have had it for just over a year now!
Did it for a year as my *only* means of transportation, and I still want to go back.
If your car is overheating frequently, you might have issues with the thermostat or pump. Try flushing your cooling system and see the quality of fluid coming out. Older cars also have cooling fans attached to the water pump pulley, so the cooling is directly controlled by engine RPM. An aftermarket electric fan kit might be worth your while if you spend a lot of time in low-idle/high-heat situations
I get 57 MPG in my 1992 Volkswagen Polo, a carburated car and I dont warm it up, MPG may varry on every car, its the most reliable car out of everyone in the family tree and its by far the oldest, it never once overheated on me aswell
Reason # 1 to 4: do some maintenance.
1. No. Most carburetors have something called an automatic choke.
2. Depends on your tune and setup. And of course your right foot.
3. Clean your cooling system and check your radiator. And your tune.
4. Maintenance maintenance maintenance.
How important are air bags? how likely am I to die if I daily a classic for the next 5 years?
Not having air bags is big selling point for me. Especially after the Takata Scandal and the recent ACR and Delphi air bag problems being discovered. That's one of the reasons I'm so Happy with my old Ford Del Rey Ghia for the good part of those 2 years with it. Never count on crash safety, if you want to live make sure to drive safe and avoid accidents in the first place. Works every time and the can never needs body work.
You have been one of my inspirations I’m in the process of ls3 swapping a 350z
My 77 camaro only has the problem of when it gets warmed up she won’t want to shift but I’m in the process of getting it fixed
I have a 65 Chevelle SS Convertible and before I had it torn apart for paint I did 800 mile round trips with it with no problems at all. It has a ZZ6 Crate Engine with a 200r4 with overdrive.
Okay... I drive a 1977 AMC Matador! Daily drive! Although I AM mechanically inclined, it's still worth mentioning that they are still normal cars. Yes there are more problems. But parts are not necessarily hard to come by, and theres no "programming a new battery to be accepted by the computer". So you can do a lot yourself. I'm 16, and owned classics for about three years. I can say that it seems to be a misconception that you have to "let them warm up for 10 minutes" They can be totally daily driven, and long as you have money for gas, and do not care about safety in any way. He was totally right about that.
My dad has a 1970 Mach 1 and we don’t have issues with it overheating or breaking down knock on wood
It’s all about fun per gallon!
As a person that’s building a 67 Mustang. I would just engine swap to another V8 or whatever. Me and my dad are using a engine that went in my dads drag car.
That’s a replica Cobra btw
Real ones are well over 1,000,000 dollars
I daily drove a 63 impala for a year in California . You can definitely do it and I suggest it. There’s ups and downs but that’s part of the fun.
1. Wait 10min for a carb vehicle to warm up? Other than a few pumps and maybe a few cranks when it's been sitting to start there is no required warm up. Like any other vehicle don't drive it hard when cold. Warm up time is determined by aluminum vs steel. 2. Cooling issues. You have to go much further back to get to vehicles that have issues with sitting at a light and overheating. Air-cooled motors in cars have been gone for a very very long time. If your classic is overheating you have an issue.
I had to daily my 84 Project Fiero for a month while trying to fix my daily. Fun to drive and got some comments, but it is a bit testy right now when it comes to the starter.
I dalied a 1960 Mini, and a '69 Camaro for over 15 years. I live in SoCal, never had issues with overheating. Never needed to warm up my engine. They had mild tunes. If you have a high end tune, it is much less practical to drive daily. Worked for years around race cars, and they didn't even need a 10 minute warm up before a race.
I daily drive a 65 Ford Fairlane 500 and never had any issues
I owned a classic for 2-3 years, im 17 and my 1971 c10 was a daily. I put around 10k miles on it with a new engine and a lot of new shit I don’t want to type. Most reliable and badass car I’ve owned!!!
Literally had a real cobra 427, daily it for 2 months in the summer of 2018 … i one a built 289 manual 4 speed 65 mustang , daily that all year round !! Also had a 1972 mercury cougar 302 … daily that form 2017-2020
I bet u had a real cobra...and then daily drove it. Lol wow
Yeah I've had classics my whole life man. Im 32 btw. You'd be getting your shit checked by someone who knows what they're doing if you got overheating issues on a classic. Those damn things were designed to breathe. The old 460 me and my pops built, could sit in the middle of traffic while hauling a boat on a hot summer day and be fine. In a full-size pickup. And she was cranking 500 horse no problem.
You forgot rust, lack of comfort, lack of parts, lack of handling, your insurance will hate you.
Modernized engines, electric fans, upgraded rad, port injection can truly make these amazing for just getting in and driving but the trade off is monumental, it's hard to get over keeping the car original. My svt focus is why I understand bc I want to keep it as original as possible.
They don’t break Down often,they were made better back in the olden days