"they want to focus on feral druids using bleeds" Hasn't that been the focus of feral druids since, like, Pandaria? How are they still failing to make them bleed oriented?
So true, they keep saying this for years and nothing changed, feral druid got NOTHING in 11.0, no decent animation effects, no decent numbers, still heads down playing with wool balls and bugs and whatever the fuk they add in the talent tree.
hey guys. if youre a mage and you are using iceflows instead of shimmer, you can hit icefloes, wait until your spell is about to finish casting, then hit icefloes again, and it wont consume the charge, bringing you to 2 charges. then you repeat that sequence and get 3 charges. this effectively means that icefloes gives you 5 charges of a spell while moving instead of the intended 3. Ive reported this bug like 2 months ago and its still not fixed.
I wonder if Enhancement will ever get buffs and then actually see them go live instead of being nerfed right away like usual. Someone desperately doesn't want that spec in the top 5....
I am going to like, and subscribe because I feel like we need more North American content creators. Keep up the good work and I hope that your channel grows.
I believe that at this point, after almost 6 years as one of the worst healers in the arena, almost no one plays or cares about mistweaver. But, for those who still have hope, hope in caster Mistweaver, switch classes. Now is the best time to start over. Well, it's bad and everything indicates that it will be another 2 years as a tier B, C, D class.
im really glad i was really excited for frost to be in a good spot, brew to even close to comparison in tank line up, enhance to feel good and actually get a chance for a buff to go to live, all the things i was looking forward to, killed before even getting to live xpac. Blizzard moment. Like the tank nerfs werent bad enough, kiting meta returning (literally the worst thing to happen in years), and same OP classes as last seasons are still gonna be around. Thanks blizz, looking forward to seeing if you guys eventually pull head from ass or not.
Happy to see DH hero talents getting a tuning-balance pass. Just want to feel like both are viable options, rather than feeling pushed to choose one over the other.
@@sebastianstrandberg3476 It's just kinda giving me pre DF vibes when they nerfed a ton of things about dk, and it took a good while for them to make up that lost ground in arena.
As a MM main I think that Aimed Shot and Rapid Fire should get nerfed while Kill Shot, ES and Arcane Shot should get slightly buffed instead. Trueshot should be nerfed too if you ask me. On the other hand nerfing Bomb for Survival makes no sense lol
One of the suggestions I read on the forums for Soul Swap was to make it a choice node with Seed of Corruption. Which really would be the perfect place for it. Hear me out: - The tree is set up so you are FORCED... FORCED.. to take SoC no matter what you will be doing. Name one time you ever used Seed of Corruption in arena? I'll wait. - it is a great choice node idea for raid too.. Maybe there is a fight with high AoE and some fights with priority 2 target cleave? SoC is not the answer to both.. But a choice node WOULD be an answer to both. - I am fully on board with Supa's explanation with issues that arise from this being a PvP talent. only 3 pvp talent slots.. One is hard locked to either Impish or Ward, the other is locked to Observer/Fel Obelisk or rot n decay, the 3rd slot was really the only choice slot for us.. most times it was RA. Which of these (basically) mandatory pvp talents are we going to give up to take SS since SS was arguably the most mandatory PvP talent in the tree?
If the devs really think those miniscule buffs to prot pally are acceptable to bring us back from the grave then that is unacceptable. I wont accept this insult from the devs give us more stop drip feeding us
Despise that my pvp spec is so disjointed and plays different than my pve spec.. almost impossible to play both on one toon because bars and abilities are so wildly different in strength…. 😢
I am amazed whenever they do a nerf it is double digit absolutely into the ground, yet when they buff something it is a wimpy 1%. Seems rather extreme.
I hate that Blizzard is afraid of specs being OP. It's ok for specs to sometimes be OP. The funny thing is Unholy DK. Unholy DK every xpac looks amazingly strong in the beta/alpha, but they always nerf it. It's never allowed to be good. But Mage and Warlock are literally NEVER bad. They've not once ever been bad. Like ever. Literally. I just don't understand how they make balance decisions.
@@hobosnake1 they are still catering to the 1% for whatever weird reason; then again, looking at GW2 (which blizzard is borrowing quite a lot from) - there're no clear outliers, so I guess it IS possible to balance things, just not for everyone it seems
Im very glad they are nerfing bombs as a survival hunter. They sacrificed alot for those bombs and i want both my chakrams back. More importantly it makes mongoose builds more viable.
"another xpac" lmao, shadow priest has been part of meta m+ comps in the last 2 xpacs, what are u talking about, when they are not "meta" spec for a patch doesnt mean they are forgotten
Don’t you know by now. Blizzard way over tunes DKs every beta. Then they see that we’re overturned and nerf us into the ground right before expansion launch. That’s where we remain until the next beta! Yay. Happens every single expansion.
Making tremor deal flamestrike dmg means it will scale with mastery now. Big W for elementalist build, but big L for anyone hoping for the return of physical windfury builds
Why is DK ALWAYS GETTING NERFED??? They can't ever seem to be the number one class for some reason. DH and rogues are usually consistently strong and if they're weak it's not for long.
@@Chrismueller11111 DKs haven’t been tanky in expansions in arena. They’re crazy susceptible to other melee and dying from spike damage just like in pve. DH have the highest leech in the game and do massive damage, have multiple stuns, an in combat sap, an auto wall, death from above, fear and blur. I have a stun, a silence, grip and chains of ice. And damage is relative. You can do a bunch of damage and still die. Damage numbers versus effective damage is a thing too. In BFA you could kick a DH during eyebeam. Once people caught on they took away the ability to do so because it countered their entire niche of leech healing and it made them squishy. So Blizzard can identify bad design big class mechanic is easily countered well make it where you can’t do that to them anymore. Which is also bad design. In an arena you can either a.) put cc into their healer while allowing them to pve into you or your partners or b.) cc them either is a viable option unless they use their brain and trinket or trade cd for cc. Eventually through our good friend dampening they’ll run you down. Their self healing is just enough to prop up a healer as long as Eyebeam can be used. Just talking mainly about class v class strats being a long time DK. Rogues can just fuck off all together.
Frost DK was an B tier DPS FOR 2 WHOLE DAYS FOR THE FIRST TIME IN 8 YEARS😎😎😎😎 FROST DK LIFE and now back to being the one unviable dps spec for all content for the next decade
Seeing how classes perform with TWW class tunings while still wearing previous expansion endgame gear and tier sets is really throwing some people off. GUYS. It's NOT how it will be in the actual launch of the expansion. Shamans will significantly be weaker when haste is lowered again. PLEASE stop shouting about broken Elemental Shamans. We're sitting at 35% haste and we now have haste buff in ascendancy AND a personal heroism. So shut up, put up and grow up. We will be weak again. Trust me.
they buffed ORACLE, this means most likely that Voidweaver will be a meme/2s spec, and pople will not invites u in 3s if u are nto playng oracle disc or holy/oracle -archon, I HOPE that im wrong about this, but a lot of pple have this feeling.
They just killed arcane mage in pvp. How they think it’s possible to cast arcane blasts all time? We don’t have missiles and now arcane barrage is destroyed. I hate these changes
Ugh no one wants to play totemtic and juggle totems with elementalist enhance. We have too many buttons and their bright idea is to force sundering and the totem. Why not just do what they did with templar and have sundering proc the totem on a second cast? Why all the extra Buttons? At least let us have stormbringer Bliz for Storm build.
ffs i just want wailling arrow to be an skill not a god damn passive, also more controll over sentinel and not pure passives would be nice. But well the changes look pretty decent over many specs i play, but enchancement... why nerf the whole Hero talent if elemental is op? just nerf them directly dont kill my beauttiful enchement boy.
Shamans have had two days basking in the sun. Let's see how long this joyous ride lasts.
as soon as they see enough online they'll investigate and swiftly give a hotfix nerfing them indefinitely.
It's ok. Idc to be blizzards red headed step child
Even when shamans are op their mains still can’t stop the tears 😂
If only Blizzard was competent enough to disable Dragonflight tier sets before making massive balance changes.
"they want to focus on feral druids using bleeds"
Hasn't that been the focus of feral druids since, like, Pandaria? How are they still failing to make them bleed oriented?
Feral life 😿
Feral bleeds were so weak.
So true, they keep saying this for years and nothing changed, feral druid got NOTHING in 11.0, no decent animation effects, no decent numbers, still heads down playing with wool balls and bugs and whatever the fuk they add in the talent tree.
Yeah, they pretty much always say this, but the bleeds are weak as hell. I think they just dont know how to balance dot based dmg.
They always do this, make arcane look dreamy in first updates and then closer to the expansion release they nerf them to the ground :D
Everyone: essay's.
Ret: shield from 150% -> 160%.
I - like - big - buffs and I cannot lie!
So ele is broken in prepatch that enhance has to go down with it as well even being significantly worse. AMAZING 😂
its prepatch........... there is ALWAYS op shit in Prepatch. Have you ever played before?
@@strugl3snugle245 I did. Actualy many years. Enhance B tier all the way sir 🤣🤣🤣
@@strugl3snugle245yeah but his point is why nerf a spec that didn’t need the nerf cus the other did
I actually love the arcane barrage change. Smooths out the rotation for me.
Are these just on the beta, or are these on retail prepatch too?
hey guys. if youre a mage and you are using iceflows instead of shimmer, you can hit icefloes, wait until your spell is about to finish casting, then hit icefloes again, and it wont consume the charge, bringing you to 2 charges. then you repeat that sequence and get 3 charges. this effectively means that icefloes gives you 5 charges of a spell while moving instead of the intended 3. Ive reported this bug like 2 months ago and its still not fixed.
I remember doing this in Shadowlands 😭
I wonder if Enhancement will ever get buffs and then actually see them go live instead of being nerfed right away like usual. Someone desperately doesn't want that spec in the top 5....
Enhancement needs to feel like a threat. When you see one in shuffle you just ignore it and treat the round like a 3v2. It's so sad to see.
Frost dks can't ever be good without catching nerf after nerf
no one cares abt frost
Fact: some do
@@natelec52 some people do, just like me, and that's why we want to see frost good
@@natelec52 That's one garbage take you got there.
Frost is boring and unskilled
All I heard was demon hunters need a lot of attention. Had to stop there to right a comment on how great this video is. Thanks Supa!
I am going to like, and subscribe because I feel like we need more North American content creators. Keep up the good work and I hope that your channel grows.
I believe that at this point, after almost 6 years as one of the worst healers in the arena, almost no one plays or cares about mistweaver. But, for those who still have hope, hope in caster Mistweaver, switch classes. Now is the best time to start over. Well, it's bad and everything indicates that it will be another 2 years as a tier B, C, D class.
Bro, i always preferred casting instead of fistweaving. Shame it never shines its such a chill specc. Probably will switch to shaman
I think it's more about nobody caring about the arena.
Healing just sucks in general tbh lol
@@jinks_hates_things It's true that PvP is the minority but your comment is completely wrong
Does anybody know the transmog on the thumbnail. Thank you
im really glad i was really excited for frost to be in a good spot, brew to even close to comparison in tank line up, enhance to feel good and actually get a chance for a buff to go to live, all the things i was looking forward to, killed before even getting to live xpac. Blizzard moment. Like the tank nerfs werent bad enough, kiting meta returning (literally the worst thing to happen in years), and same OP classes as last seasons are still gonna be around. Thanks blizz, looking forward to seeing if you guys eventually pull head from ass or not.
Happy to see DH hero talents getting a tuning-balance pass. Just want to feel like both are viable options, rather than feeling pushed to choose one over the other.
Oh boy they did it again, trying to gut dk before the xpac starts again.
Literally came back for the TWW and they're already nerfing DK survivability and damage
No idea if you guys are dumb or just joking, they are nerfing Beta Dk's, they are busted. Will probably be a little OP after these nerfs.
@@sebastianstrandberg3476are you
@@sebastianstrandberg3476 It's just kinda giving me pre DF vibes when they nerfed a ton of things about dk, and it took a good while for them to make up that lost ground in arena.
@@mjw665 I feel you, hopefully it's atleast average
As a MM main I think that Aimed Shot and Rapid Fire should get nerfed while Kill Shot, ES and Arcane Shot should get slightly buffed instead. Trueshot should be nerfed too if you ask me. On the other hand nerfing Bomb for Survival makes no sense lol
Flamestrike dmg : physical + fire dmg. Which means that dmg now increases by mastery of enh and fire dog.
One of the suggestions I read on the forums for Soul Swap was to make it a choice node with Seed of Corruption. Which really would be the perfect place for it. Hear me out:
- The tree is set up so you are FORCED... FORCED.. to take SoC no matter what you will be doing. Name one time you ever used Seed of Corruption in arena? I'll wait.
- it is a great choice node idea for raid too.. Maybe there is a fight with high AoE and some fights with priority 2 target cleave? SoC is not the answer to both.. But a choice node WOULD be an answer to both.
- I am fully on board with Supa's explanation with issues that arise from this being a PvP talent. only 3 pvp talent slots.. One is hard locked to either Impish or Ward, the other is locked to Observer/Fel Obelisk or rot n decay, the 3rd slot was really the only choice slot for us.. most times it was RA.
Which of these (basically) mandatory pvp talents are we going to give up to take SS since SS was arguably the most mandatory PvP talent in the tree?
Can u post the link?
If the devs really think those miniscule buffs to prot pally are acceptable to bring us back from the grave then that is unacceptable.
I wont accept this insult from the devs give us more stop drip feeding us
Very minimal buff to rogue, needs WAY more improvement.
can we AT LEAST! Get some Orc racial buffs.
Can we get pre patch tier list? A lot has changed
Can you get the transmog for Paladins from your picture (thumbnail?)? :o
This is Anduin new model in TWW
Will i still get told constantly that my dps sucks as a ret pally?
People hating on the rogue buffs are WILD. Rogue class would have been dead without them.
Good, rogues deserve it
Let rogue die. Stupid ass class.
Good!
every class have been dead now and then only rogues and mages were always on top….fuck them both
Rogues aren’t fun anyway terrible class designs.
Hesitating between Mage and Hunter main for soloq RBG, leaning towards hunter now. Keep watching.
Demon hunters needed a buff?? Lol.........
Despise that my pvp spec is so disjointed and plays different than my pve spec.. almost impossible to play both on one toon because bars and abilities are so wildly different in strength…. 😢
Sigh. Just when I thought I was finally gonna main my Frost DK again.
Fire Ion we are tired of the whiplash and seeing specs get reworked every month. Get someone that can do math ffs.
They should just make rapture air bubble and rapture last for 10 seconds
I am amazed whenever they do a nerf it is double digit absolutely into the ground, yet when they buff something it is a wimpy 1%. Seems rather extreme.
I hate that Blizzard is afraid of specs being OP. It's ok for specs to sometimes be OP. The funny thing is Unholy DK. Unholy DK every xpac looks amazingly strong in the beta/alpha, but they always nerf it. It's never allowed to be good. But Mage and Warlock are literally NEVER bad. They've not once ever been bad. Like ever. Literally. I just don't understand how they make balance decisions.
@@hobosnake1 they are still catering to the 1% for whatever weird reason; then again, looking at GW2 (which blizzard is borrowing quite a lot from) - there're no clear outliers, so I guess it IS possible to balance things, just not for everyone it seems
Very good, subbed. TY
Im very glad they are nerfing bombs as a survival hunter. They sacrificed alot for those bombs and i want both my chakrams back.
More importantly it makes mongoose builds more viable.
Nothing on priests for Shining Force. That's gonna be rough for us again.
ret change on hammer of light big win
Shadow crying on the corner another expac forgtten
"another xpac" lmao, shadow priest has been part of meta m+ comps in the last 2 xpacs, what are u talking about, when they are not "meta" spec for a patch doesnt mean they are forgotten
sp is doin fine dude just check beta content not bugged prepatch
still no boomkin love =(
Jesus man!! Who the hell has a vendetta against DK's?
Everybody actively playing the game smh
All of us lmao on beta they were unstoppable
Don’t you know by now. Blizzard way over tunes DKs every beta. Then they see that we’re overturned and nerf us into the ground right before expansion launch. That’s where we remain until the next beta! Yay.
Happens every single expansion.
What are you on about? they are nerfing Beta Dk's not live Dk's. They are crazy in beta.
Welcome to the party enhance has dealt with since vanilla release lol
Making tremor deal flamestrike dmg means it will scale with mastery now. Big W for elementalist build, but big L for anyone hoping for the return of physical windfury builds
Flamestrike is both physical and fire. It scales with both so just W all around
Link the post in description please king :)
Why is DK ALWAYS GETTING NERFED??? They can't ever seem to be the number one class for some reason. DH and rogues are usually consistently strong and if they're weak it's not for long.
Because dh and rogues were like glass cannons. Dks can’t be tanky af and do a lot of dmg
@@Chrismueller11111 DKs haven’t been tanky in expansions in arena. They’re crazy susceptible to other melee and dying from spike damage just like in pve. DH have the highest leech in the game and do massive damage, have multiple stuns, an in combat sap, an auto wall, death from above, fear and blur. I have a stun, a silence, grip and chains of ice. And damage is relative. You can do a bunch of damage and still die. Damage numbers versus effective damage is a thing too. In BFA you could kick a DH during eyebeam. Once people caught on they took away the ability to do so because it countered their entire niche of leech healing and it made them squishy. So Blizzard can identify bad design big class mechanic is easily countered well make it where you can’t do that to them anymore. Which is also bad design. In an arena you can either a.) put cc into their healer while allowing them to pve into you or your partners or b.) cc them either is a viable option unless they use their brain and trinket or trade cd for cc. Eventually through our good friend dampening they’ll run you down. Their self healing is just enough to prop up a healer as long as Eyebeam can be used. Just talking mainly about class v class strats being a long time DK. Rogues can just fuck off all together.
Because they’re by far the strongest class in the beta?
Unholy dk looks very fun ill still go for it after nerfs, they always had a good scaling =)
For once I wish Frost was back to being the DK premier spec. So sick of Unholy
I'll show you a hard noodle.
Be real, rogue is shit. It is real bad. Fix it. Massive nerfs, if you don’t play rogue you don’t know what I’m talking about.
Frost DK was an B tier DPS FOR 2 WHOLE DAYS FOR THE FIRST TIME IN 8 YEARS😎😎😎😎 FROST DK LIFE and now back to being the one unviable dps spec for all content for the next decade
so shadow priest just dont exist then... thanks Blizz
Stop it they were the top dps time for new you know they do that
boomkin forgotten
Seeing how classes perform with TWW class tunings while still wearing previous expansion endgame gear and tier sets is really throwing some people off. GUYS. It's NOT how it will be in the actual launch of the expansion. Shamans will significantly be weaker when haste is lowered again. PLEASE stop shouting about broken Elemental Shamans. We're sitting at 35% haste and we now have haste buff in ascendancy AND a personal heroism. So shut up, put up and grow up. We will be weak again. Trust me.
Video sound is pretty low
RIP Survival
Lolol
Those two 5% dmg nerfs have ruined us
Where Disc priest :(
they buffed ORACLE, this means most likely that Voidweaver will be a meme/2s spec, and pople will not invites u in 3s if u are nto playng oracle disc or holy/oracle -archon, I HOPE that im wrong about this, but a lot of pple have this feeling.
still nothing on SP
my marksman hunter can one shot almost everything now lol
??? How???
As a survival it's nice playing mm and not having your abilities fight each other for priority.
(Salvo is also really fun with volley)
@@leaflotus6726 ah MM still the play huh?
We are back !?!
They just killed arcane mage in pvp. How they think it’s possible to cast arcane blasts all time? We don’t have missiles and now arcane barrage is destroyed. I hate these changes
Hi I'm demonology warlock and we have been dead in pvp for the last 10 years, welcome to the shit.
Ugh no one wants to play totemtic and juggle totems with elementalist enhance. We have too many buttons and their bright idea is to force sundering and the totem. Why not just do what they did with templar and have sundering proc the totem on a second cast? Why all the extra Buttons? At least let us have stormbringer Bliz for Storm build.
Adds an element of thought to when you use sundering to get the reduced cd. Also, it lets you place the totem.
Arms blows as always.
These rogue buffs are nothing. Class still hits like a wet noodle
good
@@zayankhan1109 skill issue
Rogue definitely needs more buffing, those buffs are 100% NOT noticeable
@@chrisofblades5167 i’m 2800 xp mglad. i’m sorry your hard stuck 1800 rogue is struggling but your tears are my crack.
wtf are all these cringe replies lmao, every one that commented before mine need to touch grass urgently lol.
saved? fdks legit does not need a damage nerf. the fuck
Buff Ret paladin please and thanks!
Fel scarred Still 0 animation ?
So only 1 fix on demo warlocks.... the dei dev team needs to be fired.
good buffs and nerfs dks running rampant with way too many fotm players so bad for that game. gut them even harder!
ffs i just want wailling arrow to be an skill not a god damn passive, also more controll over sentinel and not pure passives would be nice. But well the changes look pretty decent over many specs i play, but enchancement... why nerf the whole Hero talent if elemental is op? just nerf them directly dont kill my beauttiful enchement boy.
Buff enh
Enhancement so underwhelming.
Totemic enhance feels good imo.
Dk nerf again zzzzz. WW prob get random buffs n do way more dmg like usual
rogues get shafted again
Frost dk was playable and now is dead again !!
Blizz go delete this class at a certain point
Speak up
Say it with your chest
nerf shadow priest and evoker ffs
delete evoker from the game
Please stop buffing rogues 😑.
Same with DH
Rogue specs were hittin like wet napkins, needed the buffs for sure
@@Type1Viruslast time I got hit with a wet napkin I bled so...
@@Aikicyoazskill issue
NO!!! I just decided to main one 😭
First
Here we go another copium video . Frost dk no mortal strike effect i guess im gonna be under the bus again. Ty blizzard this bus is comfortabel 🚍🛌