The Lucky Hit bit at the end is STILL your best end gag. Nothing will ever top Joe's perfect imitation of the bizarre, flailing animation while flatly declaring "no, that's not it". 25/10. Internet has been won.
I've never met anyone in all my years who didn't enjoy Yoshi's Island, I always assumed it was universally liked. Now Yoshi's Story is something else entirely... Also that Lucky Hit skit was amazing. It just made my day, thanks :)
I absolutely loved Shenmue. I found a Dreamcast at a garage sale along with a CD book of games for 15 bucks. The graphics blew my mind. Granted, this was in 2008 when I was 16! Yeah, I had a really limited childhood. I remember putting hours into Crazy Taxi, Jet Grind Radio, Resident Evil: Code Veronica, Unreal Tournament, the demo disk featuring Rayman and Dead or Alive 2, etc. But the one game that really grabbed me was Shenmue. I used to wake up very early before everyone else got up, hook up the Dreamcast to a small white TV along with a pair of headphones, and just get absorbed by the small, sleepy town of Shenmue. The game made you feel like you were on an epic quest, and talking to all the townsfolk and exploring every nook and cranny of the town really immersed me. Also, the music was absolutely amazing! It just perfectly accentuated every scene and made you feel the emotion that coursed through the game's veins. I never played a game like it. I think that at the time of release, it was undoubtedly a masterpiece and Yu Suzuki's magnum opus. It hasn't aged well, but the muddy, squarish graphics and stiff acting have a charm all their own. I didn't even notice the game's shortcomings after being absorbed into the experience. I think that's what Shenmue is all about. It's about experiencing Ryo's epic tale. It's about following him through to the conclusion. It's also a snapshot of a beautiful place at a certain point in time. When life was simpler and more straightforward. More traditional, even. The game just feels like a lot of love and care went into crafting it. And I think "crafting" is the best word to describe it here. The world feels like it was built with an attention to detail and a unified passion and vision that you don't see often in games. I remember my mother having to tear me away from it when we had to go out or get something done. It's rare that you come across a game that just grabs you. That just stays with you and eases you along, hour after hour. If they could remake the first two games, possibly condense and/or alter some of the more boring sections, and release it in a slightly reimagined and streamlined package, with completely redone voice work, I think it would be a hit. Or at the very least a cult classic. They don't even have to aim for the most cutting edge photorealistic graphics. And I'd buy it and play it again and enjoy every minute!
When I was about 16, my younger cousin had gotten his mom to buy him a Dreamcast. Back then they were new, and the first game he got for if was Shenmue. I had read about it in magazines and was ecstatic when I found out he had it! I didn't so much like Shenmue as I was in awe of it. It seemed so far ahead of its time and was the culmination of everything I had hoped for in a videogame. Growing up with the NES and SNES, I always used to think how awesome it would be to be able to wander I to the background of certain games and explore, and here was a game that made that fantasy a reality! It definitely took some getting used to as I sucked at it and never really had the chance to get good at it, but I had such a blast with it and time would fly by while I was playing. Most of the time I would get sidetracked and just go exploring because the world felt so damn alive. I've been able to satisfy that gaming need with games like Oblivion, Fallout 3, and Sky rim to name a few, but back then Shenmue introduced me to what I was really looking for in videogames and for me marked the next step in gaming evolution.
"evacuating previously ingested food" is officially my new favorite euphemism for dropping a log. Thank you Joe, this channel just wouldn't be the same without you
@@yami122 Yeah, due to Yu Suzuki's absolute BAFFLING decision to NOT finally conclude the series with it.....he could have finally made an epic final conclusion and YET AGAIN this man decided for a "to be continued".......
I'm glad to see people agreeing that Yoshi's Island is difficult as hell. I think most people just play the first half and don't go for 100% completion, but if you play the later levels and try for everything, that game can be absolutely brutal
I never thought people DISLIKED Sonic CD. I just know people argue whether it holds up as well as the classics or not. I personally love it, and consider it one of my favorite Sawniks. This is coming from someone who usually hates time travelling stuff.
Just so you know, the lucky hit sketch was, in my opinion, the most successful sketch you have ever done. I have come to appreciate the incredible awkwardness of both of your deliveries, but I usually find your little sketches to be nearly unbearable. Not the lucky hit one, though; you guys totally nailed it.
I honestly have never met anyone who hates Yoshi's Island or Mario Sunshine before. That being said, I've also never met anyone who loves FLUDD and the Mario Crying Noise before.
I truly hate Yoshi's Island with a fiery will, and I consider myself a great Mario and Nintendo fan. Played Mario 1, Mario 2 (the doki doki panic version), mario 3, world, 64, sunshine, galaxy 1 and 2 a lot, but I never could swallow Yoshis Island. The main reason is the gameplay, graphic style and level design. It feels too much "not mario" to me.
I actually love all the games shown here, but sonic cd in particular is potentially my favourite game of all time. The colours, backgrounds and parallax scrolling are just so immersive for me and work beautifully with the Japanese soundtrack, which is also my favourite ost of all time. The music is just SO FRIGGIN INCREDIBLE especially with the various time zones. I love the time travel and the level design is my favourite in the series, open and explorable. The exploration vibe of the game honestly makes things like sonic 2 feel shallow. So much imagination!! Crazy awesome boss fights!! Anime cutscenes from toie animation!!! The game is just unbelievably perfect to me :) and I love to spread the word
That lucky hit thing was great. I tried to build one of those too but I gave up. Pretty much the same thing that happens when I play shenmue, I love the idea but I get bored of it after a while. So I guess I don't have a strong opinion about it. Definitely would love to see number 3 one day. Sonic CD is another game that I love the idea of but after playing it for a while I get bored, I prefer sonic 1 and 2.
I cried from laughing too hard during the Lucky Hit skit. I love the Shenmue series so much. Don't know if you've heard about it but, Dreamcast Worlds by Zoya Street is a great book about the history of the Dreamcast, through a close study of Shenmue, Skies of Arcadia and Phantasy Star Online.
Shenmue was fun to me because it has the aesthetic of an old 70s Bruce Lee flick, earliest game I played besides metal gear solid that felt like a movie was made into a game by someone that was innovative. It of course is a foundation game that has been dissected and surpassed in every way mechanically but just like an old model terminator, it has a few surprises left I bet in the next one
What type of av cables were you guys using for the comparison between Shenmue 2 on the Dreamcast and Xbox? Were you using bad cables for the Xbox version because there Dreamcast version looked much better.
Painmaster212 It almost looked like they had the Dreamcast version hooked up through VGA and the Xbox through composite. When I had my Xbox, it was connected through component and looked only slightly worse than the Dreamcast. While the smoother framerate of the Xbox version is nice, the slowdown on the DC is part of its charm (and part of the reason the laser breaks on the console because it has to stream so much data). My European copy of Shenmue II got scratched up thanks to the lousy CD case, so it doesn't work so well any more. As such, I just emulate the game from a ROM where someone spliced the English language tracks from the Xbox into the Dreamcast game. There are some graphic and sound glitches, but the experience is solid overall, especially since the game will run most of the time at 60 fps.
I like how each of you give your takes for all the games compared to the more recent videos where the person who picks the game is the only one talking about it.
Sunshine, my favorite game. It's awesome, and was my first game ever. I don't care if it has not the best camera, it knows how to stick with you in a good way.
Mmmm, while it is slow in the game, your board is a different size with a different size marble. Even then the time it takes to hit the bottom grows exponentially with the angle, plus you add in the extra friction from the board. Was just saying, since you were saying it was way different from the game, regardless of how slow the game is, if you do it differently, of course it will be different.
Game Sack actually, since acceleration under gravity is based on the mass of the object in question, you'd get a much slower speed with a ball that had a far smaller mass/volume ration, like a ping-pong ball. Granted, you still wouldn't get the floaty falling speed, but you'd certainly get comparable descent times.
Although I'm sure someone has mentioned this, the time travel mechanic in Sonic CD is actually quite simple to explain. - The Future versions of stages are pretty much there just so you can see them. They don't hold much else, and are usually more challenging. - The Past versions of stages are useful if you are looking to create a good future in every stage. The Metal Sonic hologram doesn't do anything, but there's a large laser beam prison thing that if you hit it, it will blow up and all enemies in the stage will be defeated instantly, and make a special sound play. Doing this in every stage will create a good future for each area, and make the boss fight in a good future state. - If you collect all Time Stones (CD's version of Chaos Emeralds), you don't need to bother with going to the past at all, as all stages will automatically be a good future. Basically, doing either of these will give you a good ending. Some people think it's easier to find the laser prison things (robot generators) than trying to navigate the 3D special stages. Simple as that.
I'm in the "love" section for Shenmue, it's the last game I've played that really left me flabbergasted, I just couldn't get over how amazingly life-like it was at the time. I was still in school and it's the only game that ever made me literally run home everyday from school to play it! I still love playing the first game every other year, but the second game is still all too bittersweet for me, the way they left it makes it hard not to well up inside. Sonic CD is another love, one of my favourites in the series actually, it was the perfect showcase in that Sonic doesn't always have to be about speeding through acts on a linear path (all too common practice since Sonic Adventure). Any fans of Sonic CD, I urge you to check out the first 2 Sonic games on the SMS, they're allot like CD in that most of the levels require exploration, Scrap Brain Zone Act 2 is a good example.
Oh Lord...Final Fantasy VII. Either people absolutely worship the ground this game was made on or people get absolutely appalled by it's popularity. I personally love that game and I also love Final Fantasy VI. Let me enjoy my Final Fantasies....damned imbeciles!
I agree, FF7 should've totally been here. I personally don't really care as I've never played Final Fantasy (the only RPG games I've played for any length of time are Pokémon games(I do want to play through Shenmue I & II someday though)), but FF fanboys really seem to get their panties in a twist whenever someone mentions FF7 - someone seems to think FF7 deserves a metacritic score of 200 (out of a possible 100) because FF7 couldn't be better even if it had a universal cure for cancer built in while someone else seems to think FF7 is the beyond overrated hellspawn that killed their beloved FF franchise because FF6 (or whatever number between 1 and 6) was 9001 times better than every FF after FF6 combined could ever possibly be. Again, I personally don't care.
Redhotsmasher I completely understand the appeal of final fantasy 7, but it's too slow in my opinion and it is quite over-rated, i'm not calling it bad by any means, i'm just saying that i personally think it's not nearly as great as most people seem to think it is.
nah FFXIII should be on there. While most hate the game because "IT'S NOTHING LIKE FINAL FANTASY VII!!!!!!!!!!!!" there are those that truly enjoy it (I'm one of those people) FFX can be another one. Seriously, try to find at least 5 people who are neutral about it. FFXII is also very polarizing. And finally, the Pokemon Orre games (Pokemon Colosseum and XD: Gale of Darkness) are extremely polarizing.
My totally predictable opinion about Shenmue. I love Shenmue!!! That was my totally predictable opinion about Shenmue, and that was that I love Shenmue. With 3 exclamation marks. Did I say 3...? Shenmue 3 confirmed! #SaveShenmue : teamyu.net/Shenmue.III
Shenmue is one of the best, if not the best game of all time. I love it to the point of thinking about Shenmue while playing other games. It's just a shame the sorry state that Sega is now, ignoring its best IP completely, and caring only about half-assed Sonic games and whatnot instead. I still have hope that things can change, though. The #SaveShenmue campaign is a great one and each month it gets more attention from the game changers and the media. Someday, Yu Suzuki will be given the green light and finish his masterpiece.
I actually never cared for Yoshi's Island. I just never cared for the graphic style, or the floatyness of yoshi. And honestly, having to stop and throw eggs all the time broke the flow of the levels sometimes.
Umm...who says Sonic CD is bad? It is pretty much universally acclaimed as the best 16-bit Sonic game ever. There was some debate over the soundtrack, but that is just personal preference. Personally, I think the US soundtrack is more timeless and stands up better to time, whereas the Japanese soundtrack sounds like played-out, early-90's techno, but again, that is personal preference.
dacypher22 I happen to think that the level design doesn't flow AT ALL, and other than Sonic Boom and the boss theme the soundtrack doesn't stand out like sonic 1, 2, or 3&K. I will respect that it tried something new with the time travel and it was enjoyable at some points, but it also breaks flow. Personally sonic 3 and knuckles is my favorite of the 16 bit games.
Trainman 675 I happen to think you're right - Sonic CD seems like an untested fan-made wreck to me, and I have tried it a few times... mind you I also seem to be in the minority thinking the first Mega Drive game is better than the second....
As a kid, I LOVED the Sonic CD intro you guys showed at the end. Also, the Android release of it was great with both the US and Japanese soundtracks to choose from.
I really need to give Yoshi's Island the ol' college try; again. Every time I tried to get into it in the past, I found myself whining like Baby Mario. Thank you for the entertainment that is your Lucky Hit bit; some belly-laughs were had. Kudos for recreating the board. Your dedication to the gaming world is second to none!
we put them in the episode guide which is linked in the description. Otherwise we like to keep what we talk about under wraps until it appears onscreen. It's more fun that way unless you're looking for an older episode.
I played Shenmue 1 & 2 Remastered on PC in 2018 for the first time and I really loved both games. Still waiting for that Shenmue 3 release though (it has been anounced and crowdfunded)
Thanks for the info. Guess I'll have to find a way to mod my Dreamcast. It is an odd little converter disc, but has no problem on SDTVs. Anyway, I started watching these a couple days ago and I absolutely love your work. It's nice to see a series with a sense of humor that doesn't spend the whole time just snarking about the material. You've got a big fan here.
What you are all forgetting about the Sonic CD soundtrack is right in the title...it's a CD, with full redbook audio and this was in the early 90s. I remember finding a discounted Sega CD and popping in Sonic CD for the first time. Compared to the music and sound effects found in Genesis and SNES games, Sonic CD blew me away. While the level design was not as good as Sonic 2, it is still a great Sonic game in my mind.
On a side note, the levels are designed so that you CAN blaze through them (provided you more or less know the way instead of just holding right) yet fit many sections to help you travel through time. Layouts to me are actually very good. The reason why the music is different is -supposedly- that SOA didn't get the rights from the composers and had Spencer Nilsen (who also did Ecco on Sega CD) write an OST in about.... 6 months.
@Code1D10T Well there will definitely be an "Out Run & After Burner" episode. Maybe we'll put Hang-On in there? Not sure. But there might also be a "Favorite racing games" episode. Daytona would definitely qualify. We haven't figured out exactly how we'll handle it yet, though.
I LOVED SONIC CD, it's my favorite of the sonics from the 16 bit era after part 2 and actually fixed the time lines in the game a few times. And Shen Mue is one of my favorite extremely underrated games from back in the day
for the sega guy, dude, it's a baby he cries, i know everyone would get him anyways because it's the game's goal to get mario safe through the level, but he is a baby he will cry when alone with monsters and i think it is a sequel, maybe mario learned all he knows from this journey, who knows?
I listened to an interview with the composer of the American version of Sonic CD on an episode of the podcast VGMpire and I seem to remember him saying the reasoning for the soundtrack difference was that Sega of America wanted to have some input in the creation of the game since everything else for it was done in Japan. It's been awhile since I listened to it, but he did give some explanation over the reasoning.
@Shuda87 Lots of games did it. Silpheed is one. The Genesis does the lion's share of the music and the Sega CD PCM chip does the drums and a few other key instruments. Snatcher uses the Genesis for everything except the drums and the voices. All else is Sea CD PCM.
Shenmue is one of my favorite all-time gaming experiences. I play a bit of it every winter (along with Christmas NiGHTs). You guys frequently talk about the music in games so I'm surprised Shenmue's excellent soundtrack wasn't mentioned at all.
Loved the Lucky Hit skit and I am in the camp that loves the Shenmue series and are in my top 5 favourite games of all time! Remember getting the first one for Christmas in 2000 along with Zelda: Majora's Mask. No need to ask which one I liked more!
I think it is a part of the show. I am really enjoying this wooden performans they are giving. That is a distinct part of the show and a humor going on. Works for me.
These are all great games except for Sonic CD which is not a terrible game, just a disappointment compared to the Genesis era Sonic games. I can certainly understand why some people don't like Shenmue, but Yoshi's Island and Mario Sunshine? Those games are amazing!
I really liked this video :), you just got another sub! I think Donkey Kong 64 is the most polarized game out of the 3D-platformers made by Rare/Nintendo on the N64. I personally love it alot because it's so much fun collecting items in basically any platformer :D
Jan 19, 2012: Sonic CD was re-released on the Playstation Network and on Steam which includes BOTH the US and JAP soundtracks. They also did a few nice fixes.
This video showed up in my feed today and it's a classic!
MetalJesusRocks "Only through salvation can you be saved"
Would you say it's a hidden gem?
Well..... It's a official classic now..
@@tuffasgong Only through strength is where your true fears lay..
Same
The Lucky Hit bit at the end is STILL your best end gag. Nothing will ever top Joe's perfect imitation of the bizarre, flailing animation while flatly declaring "no, that's not it". 25/10. Internet has been won.
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I've never met anyone in all my years who didn't enjoy Yoshi's Island, I always assumed it was universally liked. Now Yoshi's Story is something else entirely...
Also that Lucky Hit skit was amazing. It just made my day, thanks :)
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I can't stand Yoshis Island. The sound of Mario crying is absolutely irritating. The game has terribly grating sound effects.
Big fan of Shenmue, that Lucky Hit skit was spot on. ROFL XD Awesome.
Shenmue on the Dreamcast was a game ahead of its time and I enjoyed it immensely.
I absolutely loved Shenmue. I found a Dreamcast at a garage sale along with a CD book of games for 15 bucks. The graphics blew my mind. Granted, this was in 2008 when I was 16! Yeah, I had a really limited childhood.
I remember putting hours into Crazy Taxi, Jet Grind Radio, Resident Evil: Code Veronica, Unreal Tournament, the demo disk featuring Rayman and Dead or Alive 2, etc. But the one game that really grabbed me was Shenmue. I used to wake up very early before everyone else got up, hook up the Dreamcast to a small white TV along with a pair of headphones, and just get absorbed by the small, sleepy town of Shenmue. The game made you feel like you were on an epic quest, and talking to all the townsfolk and exploring every nook and cranny of the town really immersed me. Also, the music was absolutely amazing! It just perfectly accentuated every scene and made you feel the emotion that coursed through the game's veins. I never played a game like it.
I think that at the time of release, it was undoubtedly a masterpiece and Yu Suzuki's magnum opus. It hasn't aged well, but the muddy, squarish graphics and stiff acting have a charm all their own. I didn't even notice the game's shortcomings after being absorbed into the experience. I think that's what Shenmue is all about. It's about experiencing Ryo's epic tale. It's about following him through to the conclusion. It's also a snapshot of a beautiful place at a certain point in time. When life was simpler and more straightforward. More traditional, even.
The game just feels like a lot of love and care went into crafting it. And I think "crafting" is the best word to describe it here. The world feels like it was built with an attention to detail and a unified passion and vision that you don't see often in games. I remember my mother having to tear me away from it when we had to go out or get something done. It's rare that you come across a game that just grabs you. That just stays with you and eases you along, hour after hour.
If they could remake the first two games, possibly condense and/or alter some of the more boring sections, and release it in a slightly reimagined and streamlined package, with completely redone voice work, I think it would be a hit. Or at the very least a cult classic. They don't even have to aim for the most cutting edge photorealistic graphics. And I'd buy it and play it again and enjoy every minute!
When I was about 16, my younger cousin had gotten his mom to buy him a Dreamcast. Back then they were new, and the first game he got for if was Shenmue. I had read about it in magazines and was ecstatic when I found out he had it! I didn't so much like Shenmue as I was in awe of it. It seemed so far ahead of its time and was the culmination of everything I had hoped for in a videogame. Growing up with the NES and SNES, I always used to think how awesome it would be to be able to wander I to the background of certain games and explore, and here was a game that made that fantasy a reality! It definitely took some getting used to as I sucked at it and never really had the chance to get good at it, but I had such a blast with it and time would fly by while I was playing. Most of the time I would get sidetracked and just go exploring because the world felt so damn alive. I've been able to satisfy that gaming need with games like Oblivion, Fallout 3, and Sky rim to name a few, but back then Shenmue introduced me to what I was really looking for in videogames and for me marked the next step in gaming evolution.
"evacuating previously ingested food" is officially my new favorite euphemism for dropping a log. Thank you Joe, this channel just wouldn't be the same without you
“ hey Joe When do u think Shenmue 3 is gonna come out?” 19th November 2019... it’s finally coming 😁
and sadly was unpopular D:
@@yami122 Yeah, due to Yu Suzuki's absolute BAFFLING decision to NOT finally conclude the series with it.....he could have finally made an epic final conclusion and YET AGAIN this man decided for a "to be continued".......
Regarding Shenmue 2 for the Dreamcast, I personally thought that the Dreamcast version looked better than the Xbox version
THIS!
Couldn't agree more.
I just picked up the ps4 version of 1&2 today, its so FN sweet
@@codybaker9683 those games suck. you have bad taste
oh my god. That was so freaking funny with the lucky hit board. Very nice. Maybe ill make one too lol.
The question is, were they acting during the Lucky Hit sequence...?
The dialogue is pretty much the same as in the game
You guys were so ahead of your time when it came to your format and quality of your content.
NGL that home made Lucky Hit board is inspirational. I want to make one now, and the last time I made something crafty was wood shop in grade 9.
The shenmue segment is amazing! Who will try lucky hit!?
I'm glad to see people agreeing that Yoshi's Island is difficult as hell. I think most people just play the first half and don't go for 100% completion, but if you play the later levels and try for everything, that game can be absolutely brutal
Shenmue and Shenmue 2 were some of the best games I ever played as a kid.
I never thought people DISLIKED Sonic CD. I just know people argue whether it holds up as well as the classics or not. I personally love it, and consider it one of my favorite Sawniks. This is coming from someone who usually hates time travelling stuff.
Watching this video after the Shenmue III announcement was nice :)
welcometoGARYVILLE Sorry you had to wait 😬
That parody of the Lucky Hit section of Shenmue 2 was hilarious!
Just so you know, the lucky hit sketch was, in my opinion, the most successful sketch you have ever done. I have come to appreciate the incredible awkwardness of both of your deliveries, but I usually find your little sketches to be nearly unbearable. Not the lucky hit one, though; you guys totally nailed it.
This is an exceptionally well made video. 6 years later, it still holds up.
lol the lucky hit part was hilarious! love shenmue as well!
The lucky hit segment confirmed my love for this channel.
I honestly have never met anyone who hates Yoshi's Island or Mario Sunshine before. That being said, I've also never met anyone who loves FLUDD and the Mario Crying Noise before.
I liked FLUDD.
I want it on the record that I LIKE FLUDD, I just don't LOVE FLUDD.
Zachary Hastings I definitely didnt like mario sunshine.
I truly hate Yoshi's Island with a fiery will, and I consider myself a great Mario and Nintendo fan. Played Mario 1, Mario 2 (the doki doki panic version), mario 3, world, 64, sunshine, galaxy 1 and 2 a lot, but I never could swallow Yoshis Island. The main reason is the gameplay, graphic style and level design. It feels too much "not mario" to me.
Huh, what do you know. Now I've met both.
Joe and Dave's faces/acting during the lucky hit segment rival the Greatest of Hollywood
I love every game in this episode, especially Sonic CD and Shenmue.
I feel at home watching your channel...thank you from the bottom of my heart ❤
I actually love all the games shown here, but sonic cd in particular is potentially my favourite game of all time. The colours, backgrounds and parallax scrolling are just so immersive for me and work beautifully with the Japanese soundtrack, which is also my favourite ost of all time. The music is just SO FRIGGIN INCREDIBLE especially with the various time zones. I love the time travel and the level design is my favourite in the series, open and explorable. The exploration vibe of the game honestly makes things like sonic 2 feel shallow. So much imagination!! Crazy awesome boss fights!! Anime cutscenes from toie animation!!! The game is just unbelievably perfect to me :) and I love to spread the word
I came from your Video of CD, i really like the game too, i haven't watched the video completely yet but I'm liking it too a lot for the moment!
Also excume my grammar, English is not my first lenguage
me searching for this comment was the equivalent of me using one of those past warp signs in sonic cd. yoooooo
Why are people seeking out these cringe comments from the past lmao 😂
Fr bro
These older episodes have such charm.lucky hit irl=genius.
That lucky hit thing was great. I tried to build one of those too but I gave up. Pretty much the same thing that happens when I play shenmue, I love the idea but I get bored of it after a while. So I guess I don't have a strong opinion about it. Definitely would love to see number 3 one day. Sonic CD is another game that I love the idea of but after playing it for a while I get bored, I prefer sonic 1 and 2.
I cried from laughing too hard during the Lucky Hit skit. I love the Shenmue series so much. Don't know if you've heard about it but, Dreamcast Worlds by Zoya Street is a great book about the history of the Dreamcast, through a close study of Shenmue, Skies of Arcadia and Phantasy Star Online.
I'd love another episode on this subject.
Also SHENMUE FOREVAAH!!!!!!!
Shenmue was fun to me because it has the aesthetic of an old 70s Bruce Lee flick, earliest game I played besides metal gear solid that felt like a movie was made into a game by someone that was innovative. It of course is a foundation game that has been dissected and surpassed in every way mechanically but just like an old model terminator, it has a few surprises left I bet in the next one
You have NO idea how much we in Europe hated the dreamcast cases.
Good god the damn things didn't last 5 minutes!
Joe is so wrong about Yoshi's Island it's got me a tad worked up! I think it's a masterpiece personally, and I don't think it's particularly hard.
They should just release Shenmue 1+2 HD already. They'd make enough money for Shenmue 3.
I played Shenmue 2 on the xbox, just watching the footage makes me want to revisit it. Great episode.
What type of av cables were you guys using for the comparison between Shenmue 2 on the Dreamcast and Xbox? Were you using bad cables for the Xbox version because there Dreamcast version looked much better.
Painmaster212 On this episode we used s-video on the Dreamcast and component on the Xbox. Both were recorded at 480i.
Game Sack I would have sworn by that comparison that you were using VGA cables for the Dreamcast and were using composite cables for the Xbox!
Painmaster212 the dream cast can actually be submitted to 1080 P with an HDMI cable newer dream casts have a port (newer as in fan made)
Painmaster212 It almost looked like they had the Dreamcast version hooked up through VGA and the Xbox through composite. When I had my Xbox, it was connected through component and looked only slightly worse than the Dreamcast. While the smoother framerate of the Xbox version is nice, the slowdown on the DC is part of its charm (and part of the reason the laser breaks on the console because it has to stream so much data).
My European copy of Shenmue II got scratched up thanks to the lousy CD case, so it doesn't work so well any more. As such, I just emulate the game from a ROM where someone spliced the English language tracks from the Xbox into the Dreamcast game. There are some graphic and sound glitches, but the experience is solid overall, especially since the game will run most of the time at 60 fps.
***** Actually They do via a new mod for the dreamcast that lets it hook up HDMI
I like how each of you give your takes for all the games compared to the more recent videos where the person who picks the game is the only one talking about it.
Sunshine, my favorite game. It's awesome, and was my first game ever. I don't care if it has not the best camera, it knows how to stick with you in a good way.
great production quality and very good chemistry between the two of you. subscribed.
...if you angle the board it will fall slower
It'd have to be nigh-horizontal to fall as slowly as it does in the game.
Game Sack I literally lol'd
Mmmm, while it is slow in the game, your board is a different size with a different size marble. Even then the time it takes to hit the bottom grows exponentially with the angle, plus you add in the extra friction from the board.
Was just saying, since you were saying it was way different from the game, regardless of how slow the game is, if you do it differently, of course it will be different.
Game Sack You'd probably make bank if you sold that lucky hit board on E-bay. I want my own lucky hit board.
Game Sack actually, since acceleration under gravity is based on the mass of the object in question, you'd get a much slower speed with a ball that had a far smaller mass/volume ration, like a ping-pong ball.
Granted, you still wouldn't get the floaty falling speed, but you'd certainly get comparable descent times.
Although I'm sure someone has mentioned this, the time travel mechanic in Sonic CD is actually quite simple to explain.
- The Future versions of stages are pretty much there just so you can see them. They don't hold much else, and are usually more challenging.
- The Past versions of stages are useful if you are looking to create a good future in every stage. The Metal Sonic hologram doesn't do anything, but there's a large laser beam prison thing that if you hit it, it will blow up and all enemies in the stage will be defeated instantly, and make a special sound play. Doing this in every stage will create a good future for each area, and make the boss fight in a good future state.
- If you collect all Time Stones (CD's version of Chaos Emeralds), you don't need to bother with going to the past at all, as all stages will automatically be a good future.
Basically, doing either of these will give you a good ending. Some people think it's easier to find the laser prison things (robot generators) than trying to navigate the 3D special stages. Simple as that.
Shenmue is The Most Greatest Epic Charmfilled Masterpiece of ALL-Time. Can you guess which side I'm on?
Let me guess... You hate it right?
sonic boooooooom
I'm in the "love" section for Shenmue, it's the last game I've played that really left me flabbergasted, I just couldn't get over how amazingly life-like it was at the time. I was still in school and it's the only game that ever made me literally run home everyday from school to play it! I still love playing the first game every other year, but the second game is still all too bittersweet for me, the way they left it makes it hard not to well up inside.
Sonic CD is another love, one of my favourites in the series actually, it was the perfect showcase in that Sonic doesn't always have to be about speeding through acts on a linear path (all too common practice since Sonic Adventure). Any fans of Sonic CD, I urge you to check out the first 2 Sonic games on the SMS, they're allot like CD in that most of the levels require exploration, Scrap Brain Zone Act 2 is a good example.
Oh Lord...Final Fantasy VII.
Either people absolutely worship the ground this game was made on or people get absolutely appalled by it's popularity.
I personally love that game and I also love Final Fantasy VI. Let me enjoy my Final Fantasies....damned imbeciles!
I agree, FF7 should've totally been here. I personally don't really care as I've never played Final Fantasy (the only RPG games I've played for any length of time are Pokémon games(I do want to play through Shenmue I & II someday though)), but FF fanboys really seem to get their panties in a twist whenever someone mentions FF7 - someone seems to think FF7 deserves a metacritic score of 200 (out of a possible 100) because FF7 couldn't be better even if it had a universal cure for cancer built in while someone else seems to think FF7 is the beyond overrated hellspawn that killed their beloved FF franchise because FF6 (or whatever number between 1 and 6) was 9001 times better than every FF after FF6 combined could ever possibly be. Again, I personally don't care.
Redhotsmasher I completely understand the appeal of final fantasy 7, but it's too slow in my opinion and it is quite over-rated, i'm not calling it bad by any means, i'm just saying that i personally think it's not nearly as great as most people seem to think it is.
nah FFXIII should be on there.
While most hate the game because "IT'S NOTHING LIKE FINAL FANTASY VII!!!!!!!!!!!!" there are those that truly enjoy it (I'm one of those people)
FFX can be another one. Seriously, try to find at least 5 people who are neutral about it.
FFXII is also very polarizing.
And finally, the Pokemon Orre games (Pokemon Colosseum and XD: Gale of Darkness) are extremely polarizing.
I love 7, 8, 9, & 10.
FFVI is objectively better.
i know it's been 4 years but i wanna see part 2 of this
My totally predictable opinion about Shenmue. I love Shenmue!!! That was my totally predictable opinion about Shenmue, and that was that I love Shenmue. With 3 exclamation marks. Did I say 3...? Shenmue 3 confirmed! #SaveShenmue : teamyu.net/Shenmue.III
Shenmue is one of the best, if not the best game of all time. I love it to the point of thinking about Shenmue while playing other games. It's just a shame the sorry state that Sega is now, ignoring its best IP completely, and caring only about half-assed Sonic games and whatnot instead. I still have hope that things can change, though. The #SaveShenmue campaign is a great one and each month it gets more attention from the game changers and the media. Someday, Yu Suzuki will be given the green light and finish his masterpiece.
And now shenmue 3 is confirmed yeah
And now shenmue 3 is confirmed yeah
I actually never cared for Yoshi's Island. I just never cared for the graphic style, or the floatyness of yoshi. And honestly, having to stop and throw eggs all the time broke the flow of the levels sometimes.
How does ANYONE hate Yoshi's Island??? It's boggling my mind 0=0
Played shenmue for the first time last year. So good.
Umm...who says Sonic CD is bad? It is pretty much universally acclaimed as the best 16-bit Sonic game ever. There was some debate over the soundtrack, but that is just personal preference. Personally, I think the US soundtrack is more timeless and stands up better to time, whereas the Japanese soundtrack sounds like played-out, early-90's techno, but again, that is personal preference.
dacypher22 I happen to think that the level design doesn't flow AT ALL, and other than Sonic Boom and the boss theme the soundtrack doesn't stand out like sonic 1, 2, or 3&K. I will respect that it tried something new with the time travel and it was enjoyable at some points, but it also breaks flow. Personally sonic 3 and knuckles is my favorite of the 16 bit games.
Trainman 675 I happen to think you're right - Sonic CD seems like an untested fan-made wreck to me, and I have tried it a few times... mind you I also seem to be in the minority thinking the first Mega Drive game is better than the second....
Sonic 2 always glitches out a lot more than sonic 3 & K or sonic 1
I agree, I'll go back to Sonic 3 and Knuckles.
dacypher22 Decent music... But the level design is garbage.
I loved Shenmue. It played upon my love of Japan and encouraged me to travel there. It was such an immersive experience. So excited for Shenmue 3.
sonic cd is the greatest sonic game. trust me.
LOLOLOLOL. You guys have such a good sense of humor such a good attitude about everything with moments like at 10:47. I love you guys.
As a kid, I LOVED the Sonic CD intro you guys showed at the end. Also, the Android release of it was great with both the US and Japanese soundtracks to choose from.
Great job guys!! The Shenmue and Lucky Hit segment was a riot. You guys are awesome!!
Jaguar Rulz!! lol
Shenmue 1 and 2 are coming out on steam soon. Just wanted to let yall know.
I really need to give Yoshi's Island the ol' college try; again. Every time I tried to get into it in the past, I found myself whining like Baby Mario. Thank you for the entertainment that is your Lucky Hit bit; some belly-laughs were had. Kudos for recreating the board. Your dedication to the gaming world is second to none!
Shenmue rocked! Your segment imitating the ball game was hilarious and very accurate!
Rewatching this episode and lmfao at the lucky hit skit. Best skit ever.
we put them in the episode guide which is linked in the description. Otherwise we like to keep what we talk about under wraps until it appears onscreen. It's more fun that way unless you're looking for an older episode.
Are you referring to our Shenmue skit? The acting in that is superb. I bet even Jack Nicholson and Tom Hanks couldn't do it as well.
I played Shenmue 1 & 2 Remastered on PC in 2018 for the first time and I really loved both games.
Still waiting for that Shenmue 3 release though (it has been anounced and crowdfunded)
Thanks for the info. Guess I'll have to find a way to mod my Dreamcast. It is an odd little converter disc, but has no problem on SDTVs. Anyway, I started watching these a couple days ago and I absolutely love your work. It's nice to see a series with a sense of humor that doesn't spend the whole time just snarking about the material. You've got a big fan here.
Remember when you guys talked about Shenmue 3?
Seriously, I really want to enjoy Sonic CD, but the stage layouts really looks like some dude on newgrounds designed the game in Flash.
@@Gatorade69 They did better.
You guys just earned a like and a sub for your Lucky Hit routine. I could swear I was looking at a HD remake of Shenmue lmao.
LMAO YOU GUYS ARE SO FUNNY that shenmue had me breathless.
Great video as always but the Lucky Hit scene was priceless!
What you are all forgetting about the Sonic CD soundtrack is right in the title...it's a CD, with full redbook audio and this was in the early 90s. I remember finding a discounted Sega CD and popping in Sonic CD for the first time. Compared to the music and sound effects found in Genesis and SNES games, Sonic CD blew me away. While the level design was not as good as Sonic 2, it is still a great Sonic game in my mind.
I laughed out loud when I heard "I'm gonna try harder to hate that game". LOL, hilarious!
Awesome episode guys. We laughed our heads off!
On a side note, the levels are designed so that you CAN blaze through them (provided you more or less know the way instead of just holding right) yet fit many sections to help you travel through time. Layouts to me are actually very good.
The reason why the music is different is -supposedly- that SOA didn't get the rights from the composers and had Spencer Nilsen (who also did Ecco on Sega CD) write an OST in about.... 6 months.
@Code1D10T Well there will definitely be an "Out Run & After Burner" episode. Maybe we'll put Hang-On in there? Not sure. But there might also be a "Favorite racing games" episode. Daytona would definitely qualify. We haven't figured out exactly how we'll handle it yet, though.
I literally just bought shenmue 1 & 2 on the ps4 because of this video. It was on sale from sony for $12.
I LOVED SONIC CD, it's my favorite of the sonics from the 16 bit era after part 2 and actually fixed the time lines in the game a few times. And Shen Mue is one of my favorite extremely underrated games from back in the day
Completely agree! Let the game stand on it's own which it certainly can.
Shenmue took a while to grow on me, but man that game is incredible
In 2018, they released shinmue 1&2 on ps4, and i was finally able to play the god damned thing without original hardware
Great episode. Dave make a tutorial on how you made that lucky board. It looked really nice!
for the sega guy, dude, it's a baby he cries, i know everyone would get him anyways because it's the game's goal to get mario safe through the level, but he is a baby he will cry when alone with monsters
and i think it is a sequel, maybe mario learned all he knows from this journey, who knows?
I listened to an interview with the composer of the American version of Sonic CD on an episode of the podcast VGMpire and I seem to remember him saying the reasoning for the soundtrack difference was that Sega of America wanted to have some input in the creation of the game since everything else for it was done in Japan. It's been awhile since I listened to it, but he did give some explanation over the reasoning.
that lucky hit recreation was spot on
OMG, that Mario baby crying...killed me. I'm dead now.
3,460 other didn't find it a waste of time. And you still watched and commented, so thanks!
@Shuda87 Lots of games did it. Silpheed is one. The Genesis does the lion's share of the music and the Sega CD PCM chip does the drums and a few other key instruments. Snatcher uses the Genesis for everything except the drums and the voices. All else is Sea CD PCM.
The Xbox version of shenmue seems to have more motion blur
Shenmue is one of my favorite all-time gaming experiences. I play a bit of it every winter (along with Christmas NiGHTs).
You guys frequently talk about the music in games so I'm surprised Shenmue's excellent soundtrack wasn't mentioned at all.
Loved the Lucky Hit skit and I am in the camp that loves the Shenmue series and are in my top 5 favourite games of all time! Remember getting the first one for Christmas in 2000 along with Zelda: Majora's Mask. No need to ask which one I liked more!
you guys shenmue re-enactment was kinda funny and was spot on which made me laugh haha.
The Xbox footage of Shenmue 2 looks blurrier than the Dreamcast footage.
I think it is a part of the show. I am really enjoying this wooden performans they are giving. That is a distinct part of the show and a humor going on. Works for me.
I love the lucky hit skit....that was dead on! hahhaha
@GatorM I actually spent a lot of time hunting for it before the episode, couldn't find it. I found the smaller door, but that's it.
So awesome! Never stop sacking!
These are all great games except for Sonic CD which is not a terrible game, just a disappointment compared to the Genesis era Sonic games. I can certainly understand why some people don't like Shenmue, but Yoshi's Island and Mario Sunshine? Those games are amazing!
I really liked this video :), you just got another sub!
I think Donkey Kong 64 is the most polarized game out of the 3D-platformers made by Rare/Nintendo on the N64. I personally love it alot because it's so much fun collecting items in basically any platformer :D
Jan 19, 2012: Sonic CD was re-released on the Playstation Network and on Steam which includes BOTH the US and JAP soundtracks. They also did a few nice fixes.