ALCOHOL Vs. WATER (Markers) - Which is best?...
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The trick you are missing: watercolor paper and using water as a “colorless blender” is equivalent.
Or some brands come with a blending pen
Killing me watching this video and knowing he didn't do any research at all or else he'd realize this 😥
@@alexmurrin He's a kinesthetic learner lol
Yes please!!! Jazza do this again with proper watercolor paper and tombow dual brush in the mix because I ve been seriously wondering what the difference is then still to alcohol markers.
I would really appreciate if he redid this knowing this info. I didn't know this either but it makes sense and I dont have the time/money/experience to test this out myself. Like these water based markers exist for a reason, it cant have been a thing if it just destroys the paper
Why not try using watercolor paper for the water markers?
That's what I said.
Finally a smart person great choice man
Big pp
Omg yes. I was thinking about this the entire video!
Seriously, some Strathmore watercolor paper + those prism markers would be amazing. Or like any hot press cotton paper 😔👌
To get better results use
1 watercolour paper very inportant
2use water to blend or lighten the colours
and don't compare with alcohol based markers since it is a different art media
Hope this helps😃😃😃
He can compare. But he has to compare them as different art media. And there is distinct advantages and disadvantages with both. But the way he did this he compared them using the techniques of alcohol based markes on both and also on paper for alcohol (and that is so dumb when he is saying that the paper will go off, is that for real???). This video is so dumb.
Exactly! 💯💯💯
I'd really like to see Jazza try this again with watercolor paper and some more watercolor techniques. Perks of water based supplies...
A weird video. I wonder if he is having a go with us. He has to know this. He is using the watercolor pens like they are alcoholcolor. And guess who wins that…big surprise.
Why is no one whining about him not using mixed media paper for the alcohol? OMG! Using printer paper for both! So unfair!!! Hilarious......
"Tips and tricks" you're missing: watercolor paper
patience-work in layers and let dry
water based blender or a brush and water.
That’s what I was thinking, I was like what even paper are you using because when I used water colors I use paper made for it and I never have that problem with the paper.
Also for the brush markers dipping the tips really does do wonders- you have to wait (and based on Jazza's reaction to Chameleon he may not like that aspect of it.
Also using a pallet to mix new colors ...and any classic water color tricks should work to like salt.
EXACTLY what I was saying! Hes using printer paper
and some dry pastel chalk will help to blend some colors in
The question that everyone in the world keen to know: why the hell he did not use watercolor paper for his water-based markers?
The question I came to the comments section to ask 😂
Lol same here
The watercolour paper arent meant to build up a LOT they are supposed to soak it all up.
Agreed. Using water-based markers as though they are watercolours themselves gives a much better result.
That's my question!
The things you missed or messed up on.
1-Use water to blend
2-Use water to lighted or soften the color
3-Use watercolor paper
4-Compare them to watercolor not alcohol markers.
Anything else?
Yes 100
So is watercolor markers and water based markers the same? I assumed they were different in that watercolor markers as used more like watercolor paint vs water base makers just have a different base to get a different effect from say the alcohol markers.
True
@@gigiriv101 uh
Alcohol markers are better tho
I think the reason that you struggled so much was because they require very different techniques. For example, a thicker paper is required for water based markers. It is also helpful to utilize water for different techniques. I often use water to blend and you can get many different shades from one marker from dipping the tip in water or coloring a spot on a separate piece of paper and use it like a water color. Water based markers are helpful for me because they are generally cheaper. It takes some practice and some experimentation but often times water based markers can do similar things to alcohol ones but for half the price.
I would even say they are a little bit better. But the alcohol ones are easier to start with if you come from schetching with pencils and is not used to watercolors.
If ONLY there was paper that is made especially for WATER based media.
I know right? Crazy...
Watercolor paper...
Wow yeah I can’t believe there’s not...
@@jen-ms8bz wooow
Water colour card
It slightly annoys me that with alcohol markers he uses a colourless blender but with water markers he doesn't use water to blend/soften the colors, also not using water color paper for water based markers.
I agree! It annoyed me toooo much :(
Pitahaya Studio well I agree that he should’ve used different paper for the watercolor markers, it’s a trial and error and a place where he could learn. He might’ve wanted to learn it by himself and then if he struggled the next time if he ever did a video on it he would research more or go into the comments
Water color paper would have been a no brainer, i assumed he was using it 🤯
He literally said to give advice because he is unsure on how to use these markers. It may seem obvious to you and others, but he may not be aware. Perhaps just give the advice and call it good. I'm sure he'd love to try it out.
Yeah ikr. I also accidentally bought water based markers and when I found out you could blend and soften the colors with water I was overjoyed that I could actually use them for something. You could also put a few lines down on the paper and use a brush with water to spread the color over the whole page for a flat background.
I have LOVED all the recent marker videos! Thanks for all the work! Using hot press watercolor paper or Bristol will reduce the amount of paper pilling. Also ther waterbased markers with the real brush tips (as opposed to felt tips) are a dream to blend. You only need a small set of say, 24, and you can blend infintly. The Color-it brand even has refills. The Zig clean color markers are the best known brand but there are affordable brands like Arteza that work just as well.
It's a so long comment shut up
@@lasaakonni768 DONT BE SO RUDE JEEZ
@@lasaakonni768 you dont even know how to speak properly so dont even
@@lasaakonni768 why be so mean? She is trying to help
Mate. Mate. Just no. Stop. Yes, I know you were after attention and you got it, but get it in a different way next time. No one likes people like you, infecting the comments. Also, learn how to speak English, it might end up making you sound more reasonable than stupid
12:33 here is the code, but its probably already claimed.
Oh...
That Is almost unreadable even in 1080
Good eye
Disclaimer: Jazza is not an alcoholic, he merely likes to use alcohol-based alcohol.
He’s only alcoholic for 17 minutes at a time......XD
So he is a alcohol makerolic?
Sorry I ruined your 420 likes
Me an intellectual using Pastels: *interesting*
Alcohol-based alcohol
every 60 seconds is a minute in Africa
Jazza: I'm genuinely curious if there's a trick I'm missing here.
The trick he's missing: watercolor paper.
I'd be interested to see him try one of those brush pens that you fill up with water or even just a painbrush with water. I've got some actual proper watercolour markers and watercolour paper and it works great with them. I don't think it'll leach the colour out like the waterless blender pens but should be a bit smoother than this anyway.
Watermelontastic That or he use something made of glass or ceramic and use is as a palette to add water too, this is a technique a lot of artists who use watercolor or water based markers often do
And he didnt even consider Molotow aqua markers
Greyson LaGarde' I’ve seen that technique a lot, but I don’t really see why artists would prefer that over using actual watercolours. Are there any reasons I’m missing? 😅
Does mixed media paper do it?
I got a skill share jazz ad while watching this:>
Same lol
Omg same
s a m e
Me too
Same
Personally I like water based markers for quick sketching because the ink doesn’t bleed through the paper like alcohol ink does. You can lay down a decent layer of flat colors with them to just add some interest to your sketchbook or do some experimenting without feeling the pressure that can come with working with more expensive art supplies
the problem you're having is that you're comparing them to alcohol markers when they more closely resemble the effect of watercolour paints! try using watercolour paper or mixed medium paper instead and approach them as you would watercolours.
A good tip could be to have a paintbrush and a glass of water with you so you can blend.
TLDR: they act like watercolours in a marker container.
Yeah that’s exactly what I was going to say.
Sum'bitch water based marker rekt my canson watercolor paper BUT I'll try it on other brands
Also you can watch skillshare. They have a course on how to blend with waterbased markers
I just typed a paragraph about this and I saw this and just went OH WELL and stared off into space questioning existence for no reason. But thank you for making me not the only one seeing the possibility for a more fair match
the key is letting each layer of colour dry out before applying the next one... it is a waiting game when drawing in the style Jazza has...
"There is absolutely NO WAY to blend these pens!!!"
Water and a brush? 😂
Yup that was annoying
Yea and watercolor paper of course it’s gonna come out not as good if you don’t use the right materials 😭
I mean, at that point just get rid of the markers and use full watercolor, right? Or would the general technique be different?
@@psychomanatee3459 As someone who uses both, I can verify that the technique is quite different.
CandyLame i was just about to ask about that. If I’m working with anything water based I use watercolor paper why didn’t he do that?😭😭😭
I feel like Crayola and Prism water based markers making it in the finals of the alcohol markers compilation is very impressive. It shows how well made Prism and Crayola are, even if they aren't the best.
I'm 28 im a professional artist this is my new youtube account and I kinda get annoyed when some people use the same methods for felt pens and alchohol markers.I use both alchohol and water based markers,well soft brush felt markers are good and I never really face the paper tearing up problem since again different techniques for felt markers,u can use water to blend it and the felt markers are really good for the hatching technique so yeah there's different techniques for felt pens which many artists don't understand
When it comes to art, alcohol markers are more preferred and generally feel nicer to use, when it comes to taste, definitely water markers.
i-
👁👁
Really? I personally find alcohol based markers have a nice tang to them that ya just don’t get with water markers, but to each their own.
I love how your pfp juss said “blackout”
Wait...what “taste” are we talking about????
i wish we could've seen how the water markers performed once you dipped them in water, like the tip on the box said! as some other people have mentioned it would be especially cool to see their performance on watercolor paper, which alcohol markers might struggle with. love ya vids jazza!
The texture of watercolor paper rips up the water marker nibs.
We didn't see the performance of the vodka dipped marker either :'(
And sadly I own neither vodka (or anything else with enough alcohol) nor an alcohol markers to test it myself.
And also, using them in the ways they’re intended, instead of trying to use them like alcohol markers. They never had a chance.
Jenna McClellan not if you use hot pressed, which is as smooth as Bristol board.
Jenna McClellan he could’ve used a normal paper for the alcohol markers, and watercolor paper for that watercolors that were meant to be on different paper
Handlettering! That's what I use them for and you also need to use them on a smooth paper. I handletter on hp premium plus paper to practice on but tracing paper and watercolor paper is good as well.
I always used the Stabilo water based markers and always had good experiences. I could even do shading with them on cheap printing paper.
Video summed up in a sentence:
The best markers are made of what you'd rather drink
Adults and Professionals are older, and more experienced, to they typically use alcohol markers, and they are old enough to drink alcohol.
Children don't drink alcohol, and because they're newer to art, will be oriented to using water-based markers
I think it's just cause alcohol markers are more expensive than water based
Are there orange juice or alcohol free beer markers? (Sorry its a stupid question)
Precisely
No Im 3 and i have 450 copics
Bama Draws if u were 3 u wouldn’t be able to count or spell
4:29
Jazza: you can actually see the paper fibers start to crumble
Me: ..... CAN SOMEONE PLEASE HAND THIS MAN WATERCOLOR PAPER??
Pineapple Plays Roblox I don’t have any #BrokeLife
@@jen-ms8bz Oh, that sucks... I hope you can get some money soon so you can buy it. I hope you're doing well :)
This was my feeling when Hex made Ursula with only epoxy.
“Can someone give a girl some sculpy?”
Even if you use watercolour paper it still be crumbling
Known from experience
Yes
In my school we used to do a light layer of colored pencils first then we colored with water based markers on top of it. This helped prevent the paper from absorbing the colors immediately and that made it possible to blend them.
Thank you so much for making a vid for this😁, I can finally decide what type of markers to by.
someone should tell him that oil markers exist too...
I have not heard of these at all. Now I must research!
No let him figure it out
Acryl markers exist, too.
Wait, really?
Yeah and "liquid" chalk markers
I feel like the « (markers ) » in the title was essential
No
Not entirely
Haha
Can you give my channel a shout out
Lol
I love watching these videos! It makes me better understand what to use for what purpose! :) Thank you art UA-camrs for making me become a better artist!
If you use watercolor paper and a wet brush (or one of those water brushes to feel more marker like) to blend you'll probably be able to get the results your looking for. And some sick watercolor features too!
Me who does art digitally: _interesting_
Me who does art in clay: *interesting*
Me who doesn’t do art: interesting
@@_fire_in_the_sky_7360 your comment *4 second ago*: interesting
@@toastghost9145 I mean I only sculpt..and Jazza barely does, and he's still the only art channel that I watch for some reason
@@_fire_in_the_sky_7360 my. Life. Xd
Jazza:
The papers not happy with me!
...could have used watercolor paper
Jazza:
There’s no way to blend it out to white!
...could have used plain water the way you used plain alcohol...
Yeah he's actually an donut
well i guess he thought that they would work like alc markers? maybe he will try again.
Thanks for mentioning omg. Reviews like these drive me nuts
Do you like josh dun by any chance?
@Royale Ariana Could you explain the difference? Cause I have water based markers and I'm able to use them with water perfectly fine. I thought with both, you could use water as a solution and for blending, so they're not too different are they? Then again, I also use multi media paper.
I used to have the same feeling about water based markers....and then I purchased a small set of tombows. They all suck for straight up coloring, but used with water or a water brush it opens up a whole new world. Also, use them on watercolor paper!
Using watercolor paper for waterbased markers can often help some of the tearing! On that same note, you can even sometimes blend out colors with water and a brush like watercolors.
You might want to try using the water based markers on watercolor paper, that might not break up as quickly as regular paper does.
Hey Someone tell him To turn off *video made for kids option* We can play it in multiplayer mode and notification is off so many viewers almost none are notified
My thoughts exactly
@BashirNG yh I hate everyone who didnt get it OoOo UsE WatERcOLor PaPPeEERr JAzZa
@BashirNG if you need a special paper for alcohol based markers (you do by the way) you should use the preferred paper for water based markers. Makes sense to me
Someone tell that man about hot pressed watercolour paper and give him a brush and some water.
I think he never used water colours before 😅
Yup same!
Arteza watercolour brush markers are really nice to use. You can use watercolour paper or thicker paper to prevent the issues you experienced . You can soften effects using a water brush as a colourless blender or applying to a pallette and using as paint.
In fashion designing we many times need water soluble pencils and water brush markers to blend them later with water. Many sketches and many fabric rendering techniques are done with water based markers and pencils.
“See it’s not terrible” - Jazza
“Yeah but the paper is” - me
not as bad as his pronunciation of mont marte...
And he didnt even consider Molotow aqua markers dude u can do really awesome work with thatttt aaaahhhh im maaaaddd
@@guillermoyac Do they have alcohol-based Molotow markers? Only problem I guess is they'll explode if you mix them.
@@ActualCharky yess someone said it THANK YOU
@@judithtym7143 I said it on one of his alcohol marker tourney vids. Guess he didn't see it either
50% of comments: Watercolor paper!
50% of comments: Jazza is an alcoholic
Me: kinda off topic but grians signature background music was playing and i was thinking of that
youtube just recommended this lad´s vid. Gets me nostalgic thinking about the time he did the Drunk With Jazza. Fast forward 6 years and I´m a psychologist, using art in my sessions. Thanks man, you´ve been very important.
I’ll be getting your pages to color I love your art thanks for sharing.
People who HAVEN’T seen Jazza’ s videos:
This man is crazy!
People who HAVE seen his videos:
Huh, Jazza seems quite calm today.
Ok now I’m scared.
Maybe he needs to pay a visit to an an experienced exorsist....
I personally like to use my waterbased markers like watercolor! I usually have a plastic pallet, that I apply the color to first, then I use a paint brush with water (or an aquabrush) and turn it into watercolor. The amount of water, used, will change how light or dark the ink pigment is when you apply it. Another thing you could try is directly drawing on your paper and then apply water to it. I suggest watercolor paper for these techniques though.
As someone who always used water based markers, they are very fun to sketch with. Putting down a fair amount of a sketch with pen and going over it with water based markers. Definitely blocky and harsh, but doing it as a traveling sketch supply is fun. Also using watercolor paper is a better option for a sketchbook.
You sould try Tombow markers! They can blend, Every pack (that is for illustration) comes with a colorless blender, and they come in more muted colors and more pastel colors.
P.S. please use watercolor paper and please do not try to use them like they're alcohol markers. (｡･ω･｡)
Hi past me!
@@gisming I question
@@-face.less- what?
I absolutely love my Tombow marker collection. The silly thing is, I've seen him use Tombows before... he even has some of the black variants in some of his artboxes lol
@@Alikona20051 I've seen that he has the fineliners with pen pressure (Idk if that's what it's called).
Jazza: Creates great gradients within his pieces using alcohol markers
Also Jazza: Doesn't colour within the lines
10/10 Artist
Coloring within the lines is overrated
I love how he tries to show things water based markers can’t do and everyone who uses water based markers and other water color type items are just slamming our faces into a wall.
I feel like there are a lot of concussions in the ER, maybe some broken noses and missing teeth
He doesn’t really use them though tbh, I could see me making the same mistake.
I think he was thinking of them as strictly markers and not thinking that you could go in with a wet brush to help things along
CAN CONFIRM I BASHED MY HEAD AGAINST MY SKETCHBOOK!!!
what is the best way to use water colour markers?
I just started using water-based brush markers for coloring. What I’ve learned is that you should thoroughly saturate the area with the color and build around it before it dries to get a smooth solid color. This, rather than going stroke by stroke in a single layer because that overlap between the strokes is what makes it look really streaky. 👍🏻
I own the Tombow brush tip watermarkers and I love them. I don’t own paper for watercolors and it doesn’t destroy too much the fiber of the paper !
Jazza: "ALCOHOL-BASED ALCOHOL"
Round of applause for this man.
@Zayra Maldonado lol
Yeah I don't think I've heard of water based alcohol XD
Iron Fist alcohol based water 😂
He is an adult 👏
I love assination classroom
The thing I noticed is that he's trying to use water based markers like they're alcohol markers. I'm no expert, but I'm sure there's a different technique. That may be something to look into :)
69th like nice
Yeah there is
True
YEAJ HE WAS LIKE "if there's a trick or application I'm missing with the watercolor here let me know" and the entire time I was like "water?????"
yeah, lol. If you use water based markers on the same paper as for alcohol markers.....RIP paper AND marker. I believe he can try something like watercolour paper. Also, you can rub the marker on a ceramic palette and add a teeny bit of water to that and use it with brush to create lighter tones. I know, unconventional....but it is about giving them a best chance. If he did that, he would be able to exactly recreate that electric effect in water base as well. I am starting to think that as of creating this video Jazza hadnt used much watercolour.
This is so helpful! Thank you Jazza
Thanks for this video. Was trying to decide between the two before buying.
Some of the water based markers, especially the brush ones, can be blended out with water. This gives a watercolour effect which you can't really achieve with alcohol based markers.
Random ArtLizard indeed
Jazza, to make the water color markers a little bit more usable, you can get water color paper (so that it doesn’t break the fibres of the page) and a water marker so that you can blend them.
Also ohuhu has a brand of water color markers. They include a water marker with them in addition to the markers.
The twistable Crayola's go quite well with the water makers for the shading
Yes; I have been debating this very issue of water brush marker vs ohuhu markers. Thank you
Nobody:
Gordon Ramsay in the corner shouting at the markers: *iTS dRy!*
Under rated comment lmao
Yeah I get the comment, but this format is so overused that its not that funny, can this even be called a joke? Wow I sound like a prick, no offense to you, I just hate the "NoBodY:" format.
Prosperos Moon I didn’t know how to start it out :/, I didn’t know it would get noticed anyways.
@@mr.bowtie3451 you should use:
**someone just drawing**
In the start
HeHEhe
Umm jazza, no offense but u kinda used watercolour too much like alcohol marker. Use water to have similar affect of softness like the Colourless Alcohol marker.
Anime Drawerboy you forgot to add the “A” at the end of his name
*_ya like jazz_*
Ahhh that as me dying XDD
had*
had***
As a person who tried both alcohol and water markers, I noticed that the alcohol ones have a higher chance to ruin paper. Like, if you use one, another piece of paper will also be painted, but the water ones always stay on one paper
He is probablu using paper for alcohol and that have very little bleed through if any. What he fails to realise is that this is messing with the waterbased pens. This guy really does not know what he is talking about. He can draw well enough but it is a clear case of just knowing the material you working with and nothing more.
when i use water based markers with tissue paper and use a different color over the marker (doesn’t matter what color) if i color over the other color enough they can overlay. i only found this with tissue paper probably because of how thin tissue paper is. if you have a thin enough paper you might be able to overlay water based markers
"Alcohol bases alcohol"
_I used the stones to destroy the stones_
why are you everywhere.
Hello
@@maddiedraws146 his jellal that's why
well well well we bump into each other again. :p I have to say you have great taste in channels.
Why. Are. You. Ev👏ery👏where.
You asked if there is something you were missing Jazza - I was literally screaming, yes Jazza Water! You blend water based marker with water or a blending pen which I believe is also water based, also you have to use the right paper. I love water based markers I have tons of them but my favourites are the Tombow ATB duel tipped brush pens and I use them for calligraphy or any kind of hand lettering.
For better colour saturation with the watercolours letting then dry in between layers helps a lot
I like waterbased markers for using watercolour techniques without having to get out my paint. I use a waterbrush pen to smooth out the application, of course I use cotton paper to apply them onto. Cellulose paper just can't hold on to water.
Since water based markers seem to tear up the paper, what about trying them out on watercolor paper and treating them more like watercolors. Would they work better?
Yes, yes they would. Jazza is a great artist but he obviously doesn't know his way with water based markers
I not only tend to use water to help me blend my water based markers, (and as everyone is saying, watercolour paper!) but I use rubbing/isopropyl alcohol to help fade and blend alcohol markers.
You absolutely can get a gradient with water based markers though. I do it all the time ^-^.
I’m loving all these marker videos!
actually the effect that the water-based marker created on the queen's gown is kinda cool... especially on the skirt thing since it was fabric n the skirt is kinda layers on top of each other so there's no need to like have an entirely solid flat color for the skirt thing... and maybe you should work the water based marker the same way you work with watercolor. The result would be so much better.
I edited my comment so that no one finds out what I wrote before✨
Same!
I was about to say it!
Same😂😂😂
🤣🤣🤣
Watercolor paper still tears. But handles a little more before it does. The reason it still tears (especially cold press) is because of the textures from the paper, and then the texture from the tip of the marker. Like when you overwork your brush in normal watercolor.
Same! You don’t use copics on copy paper, so don’t use water based markers on paper for alcohol based markers!
"Really fair-skinned"
Bruh to me that's like tan as heck
Kermit yes
Yes
Is that Tyler..?Sort of..?
Hey Someone tell him To turn off *video made for kids option* We can play it in multiplayer mode and notification is off so many viewers almost none are notified
@@emiliya7 YES lol
@@geraldineschoofs lol sameee
I would recommend using watercolor or mixed media paper for water based markers. A lot of the markers also have blending brushes.
I have used waterbased markers on watercolor paper. Tombow have some wonderufl pens that can be used as both watercolor pens and as pens in and of themselves. It... really is wonderful. (Cotton based watercolor paper)
Jazza: I'm going to test these markers
*proceeds to use the medium incorrectly*
Some hot press watercolor paper and a brush with some water could have made this a lot more fair.
It's like when people complain copics bleed through drawing paper
We need to tell jazza to redo this expirement with water colour paper and use water for blending maybe the results will differ then
I saw kasey golden use watercolour markers diffrently where she would colour on a glass surface and pick up the colour with a brush using watercolour u cant do that with alohol markers we need jazza to try that out too
You can do that with alcohol based markers, you just you isopropyl or rubbing alcohol instead of water.
@@Redskid1000 that is true but i mean giving water colour markers a fair chance on the correct paper and showing their full potential may change the results eventhough i doubt they will change the results but i think watercolour markers are nice as a cheap alternate and i dont think this vid did them justice and i mean who wouldnt want to see jazza use watercolour markers to create another master piece
I would suggest using Pro king art dual tip brush pens, they are a water-based marker. I like them as much as my alcohol markers. They do not rip the paper as easily, you can do around 5 layers before it starts to do it. Also, they are really satisfying to use.
A tip for water-based makers: Try using a clear plastic lid or a porcelain palette. Draw into one of the wells or lid and use some water to dilute the ink. It works kinda like watercolor, use a brush to pick up the color. This is pretty good for a base of skin tones.
12:33, its by the right side of the wall when you're picking up the markers
neither phone nor pc can actually make the code clear enough for me so I'm not even bothering with it
Redeemed
Good job. I wouldn’t have found that
In Water based markers, you should apply to a pallette and add water!
Thank you. It helped clear up the issue I'm having.
I love taking water-based markers and a water brush with me when I want to paint, but don't want to lug around my whole watercolor palette. Perhaps try painting something on the go or outside?
I'm not really surprised that you still prefer alcohol based markers by a lot of you only try the water-based markers the way you normally do. It's like a different medium, so you have do do it differently. It would have been really interesting to see you use both kind of markers how they're supposed to and then compare them!
Yes, he needs to schooled properly. Ruler on hand for using the wrong technique with the wrong medium. SLAP! NO!
Alchol markers are better for me too
If you need a brush, just use watercolors.
if you cant just use a marker like a marker, then it's bad at being a marker
@@cobaltblu4196 I think it's ridiculous to essentially make a marker that's really meant to be a paint and expect people to automatically understand how to use them properly. Plus why make a one part process a multiple part process if it's not necessary?
@@madmouse7989 yeah, I agree. like I said "f you cant just use a marker like a marker, then it's bad at being a marker" "f you need a brush, just use watercolors"
In fact I think people have been passing off a "hack" as "the intended method"
are you really telling me someone made waterbased markers to be used on slick materials and then dabbed up with a brush?
that sounds like someone trying to make cheap art supplies work.
like "pre wet the paper" is something i see a lot... and last i checked water based markers don't come with a spray bottle
like. imma put "use them like watercolors" in my toolkit, but that's not how they're sold.
"it's all good" he says as I'm looking at those streaky lines that could've been softened with just a liiiiiittle bit of WATER and some WATERCOLOR PAPER for his WATER-BASED markers!!!!!!! *internal screaming*
I actually really like the way the queen coloured in water-based markers looked, something about the streaky-ness actually made the dress look nicer, like there were more pleats in the skirt or something
I like using waterbased markers with colored pencils on some of the adult coloring books. I love my ohuhu alcohol based but they bleed through the pages and I don't always like to make copies. So this was fun to watch.
"there are some limitations"
Yeah, when you don't use watercolor paper and water! XD
Sorry but ...water??
mohmmed fitory lol I was waiting for this thank you I can die happy now
It still tears up watercolor paper. Trust me, I've done stuff with water-based markers and watercolor paper
@@mohmmed1665 yup
@@arrowmaker5038 😂😂😂why
Jazza: throws away the Faber Castell's
My inner 9 year old who really wanted to have them: heart breaks instantly
Me too lol 😂
Felt that-
Me from inside broken into pieces...
Same lol 😅
I still never got them 👁👄👁💔
Most of the time I use water based markers for hand lettering and calligraphy which considering you have made a calligraphy video trying hand lettering would be cool
I needed to know this, thanks Jazza
He should make a series were he rates markers. JAZZAS MARKORAMA
As if the elimination battle wasn't enough
Jazza's little message at the end was soooo sweet. He didn't make a big deal about it or even acknowledge that he was doing anything different than he normally would, but the way he delivered the good feels was great. His Montie character is fantastic and warmed my heart the same as all of Jazza's vids. What a legend.
one advantage of the waterbased markers is its easier to wash off if you get it on your hands or clothes
With water-based markers, often you can use water with them to create a watercolor effect. Also, alcohol markers tend to destroy anything on the other side of the paper
My mom read the “alcohol vs water” and she said “alcohol! No question!” I later explained that it was markers and she was quite disappointed
💀💀💀
*Tbh she should be dissapointed on herself for that answer*
I choose water because if i drink water my brain will be pink garbage
😂😂😂 she should be
Mom's and their wine ¯\_ಠ_ಠ_/¯
Okay so here's a few tips and tricks to working with water-based markers or practically any water face paint of any sort:
the first as almost everyone in the comments mentions waterbase paper really it makes a whole world of different and it is made specifically for water-based colors, so it will be a lot more durable. you can also use mixed media, it works good, it will not be as good as specific watercolor paper but it is a suitable replacement if you don't have water color paper anywhere near you.
The second tip is you need to change your mindset. I know you're not used to working with water-based paint but it is different than working with alcohol-based markers cuz in watercolors you can do so many things! you just need to really open your mind and remember that there is drying time after drawing, Which you're not used to since you are used to do fast drying alcohol based paint so, tip 2- changing your mindset about watercolor paint and waiting are really important things you need to remember.
tip 3- like alcohol-based markers, you can use the base of the paint to stretch its limit, so you are using alcohol with alcohol-based markers to stretch their limits and to blend them and you can do the same with water-based colors! now with water-based color, and specifically water-based markers, in some Brands you get a blender just like in the Copic markers for example, in other companies or brands you would not get it but you can always use just water with a brush to stretch out the pigment on the paper and to blend it more thoroughly. Have a water container and a brush nearby cuz they are amazing tools with anything regarding water based paints.
Fourth tip- have a ceramic container or a plastic container that you can draw on and a spritzer bottle next to you filled with water. when you paint on the plastic or ceramic with your watercolor based markers it would not dry and you can use the water in the spritzer to dilute it and you can get a bigger range of color from the same one marker so tip number 4- have a ceramic container / plastic lid and a spritzer bottle next to you.
now from here on out it's more of you learning what you like to do with the paint then actual stuff that are necessary for you to succeed with it.
I really suggest you checking out the channel ' drawing with waffles ' she's an artist and she use water-based markers quite frequently and she use a lot of different brands so you can check her out and see what she does. she have a lot of awesome techniques and tips you can get even just from watching her.
one thing you do need to know is that certain brands of water-based markers, once they're dry on the paper, it doesn't matter how much water you would put on the marker on the paper, it would not budge and other brands will dilute even if they are dry and will smear anywhere so even though it is water-based it doesn't necessarily mean that it will forever be activated by water and that can actually come in handy for a lot of situations.
another thing you need to know is that with certain brands you can actually dip the end of your marker into water and then draw with it like that not everybody can do it but it is possible and it will dilute the color a lot and you will get a really nice gradient effects on the paper! another thing you can do is draw on a paper with the markers and then come back with a brush and water and dilute the color or blend it more, basically think of it like watercolors because even though they are a marker they are still watercolors.
If you wet the paper itself you will get one effect, if you draw with the markers and then blend with water you will get a different effect, you can use the blender marker and get a different effect from the one the water with the brush gave you, you can get a really good build-up or you can color one thing over the other once their colors are dry because they are not going to be activated again by the water in the brush or the markers. I really suggest you check out the Channel I recommended on and just experiments with them that is the best way you will get the idea behind them and I believe you will find some awesome new techniques.
Wow, when I clicked on the "read more" option I didn't expect it to be that long XD. But yeah, thanks for the pointers, I had wanted to start art with markers and am too broke for alcohol ones. That is why I was browsing through youtube to find out if water-based ones could be used as substitutes for alcohol ones. Watching this video, I was about to lose faith in them but your comment makes me want to try those on my own and not dwell upon what youtube reviews say.
Thank you :)
Really good tips. I too learned a lot from them!
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Who read this whole thing? What are you doing with your life, moonshiro
Using watercolour paper with watercolour markers and a water brush you would see a huge difference. It’s far easier to get blends and gradients with watercolour than alcohol imo when they are used properly :o)
Jazza: unfortunately there's no way to soften these markers
Me: Water?
Jazza: Such a shame I can't soften and blend these
Me: Water my guy
Jazza: Very upsetting that you can blend alcohol markers with alcohol colourless blender but you can't blend water based marker with anything...
Me: DUDE IT'S LITERALLY IN THE NAME 😂
Very fun video anyways :)
I was thinking why don't you blend them with WATER?
not really the case