Hi Mark, I live in Australia and 60 years ago when I was a scout I learned you point the 12 o'clock position on the dial at the sun and north is half way between the 12 o'clock position and the hour hand's position. This is the correct way to find north using a watch in the southern hemisphere, not as you have explained it as replacing south with north using the northern hemisphere method for finding south. Also instead of continually making adjustments pick a landmark as far off in the distance, in the direction you wish to travel and walk toward it, you can then take another reading when you reach that landmark.
it'd be better to have annotations that u corrected the southern hemisphere reading in the video rather than description :) BTW, new to ur channel. Luv the info and details. Thanks!
Hi Robert, I was just wondering, are these two watches a navigator watch? Just a curiosity. I haven’t find a clear answer regarding navigator, infact just wondering why we call navigator watch and what feature makes watch navigator?
A friend of mine got out of the Navy a couple years ago. He was a navigator. He told me that they still also practice navigating by the stars every night, even though they also have the most advanced electrical navigation instruments on board that money can buy.
Makes sense. Using the advanced equipment is probably more accurate, but if you always rely on it, you’ll be in trouble if it fails. Best to develop star navigation skills as a backup.
Just got my Alpinist from you last week, so I didn't need to watch this video til then. This is really handy to know. I've known of hunters to not believe their compasses and end up getting lost in the forest. This is a great way to verify a company is working too. Hey, Marc, just ignore the comments about the waste of time with your "fluff" - your information is all interesting and useful. I enjoy all your videos!
Hi Mark. I am from Canada, now living the the Philippines. All my life I have done a lot of hunting and fishing and have used my watch as a rough compass 1000s of times. Canada being so far North, and during mid summer, has long daylight hours where it gets daylight before 6am and well after 6pm. During those hours when using a watch as a compass the 12 o'clock position flips from pointing South to pointing North. That is important to know or one can really get lost and confused. Of course on a clear night after dark in the Northern hemisphere, the North Star (Polaris) is easy to find from the Big Dipper (Google it), then vertically down from Polaris to the horizon is exactly North.
Excellent video. I used this technique last weekend in the woods because I was too lazy to get my Silva system compass out of my pack (which would have required me unshouldering and reshouldering 20 kilos. And the cheap compass/thermometer attached to my pack shoulder strap isn't that accurate. If you don't have a bezel you can do it mentally. If you have a dive bezel you can use that, just decide what is what, for example you can point the arrow to the south position and just remember that 30 would be north, 15 west, 45 east. Thanks to the Long Island Watch man for reminding me about Daylight Savings Time, now I know why I was a few degrees off (but accurate enough to position a map and figure out where to go). Google maps isn't so great when in the wild, a watch or compass and a paper map are much better. With the watch the advantage is you do not need to know what your local declention value is (deviation of magnetic from geographic north). My 40 gram Luminox Colormark is enough!
It's not just ensuring the time isn't set to DST, it's ensuring you're using local solar time as accurately as possible - and knowing how far off local civil time is from local solar time wherever you are. Some civil jurisdictions have deliberately put themselves nearly an hour ahead on standard time, putting themselves nearly two hours ahead on DST -- all so the wealthy die hard golfers can play golf at 11PM. I'm glad you corrected the Southern Hemisphere. If you imagine the solar motion at (local) 6AM, Noon, and 6PM, and how watch orientation can indicate direction, you can ensure you get it right. All that said, I used man-made and natural terrain features, combined with general solar position relative to AM/PM to properly orient a map, and determine more accurate directions much, much faster.
Thank you so much, I have a Seiko Kinetic GMT but had no idea why the compass points were on the bezel. Aside from an actual diver using their bezel for dive times this may be the most useful function on a bezel. Tachymeter scale wont get you out of a jam. I have gained a new appreciation for my watch, thanks.
I enjoy your reviews and your watch and learns. I think, however, on the compass watch and learn you omitted an important point - which direction to go when you mark the halfway point between the hour hand and 12 o'clock? If before noon, you move clockwise from the hour hand. If afternoon, you move counterclockwise. An important detail.
Just trying to practice that one. So, Could I also say... whichever is the shortest path from the hour hand to noon... take that one. That midpoint is south?
Thanks for the video. I would have wrongly "doubled" the hour rather than correctly "half" toward 12 as you've demonstrated. I'm happy to be corrected, and more fun not to be lost! Thanks.
Hi Mark, I use the Compass Bezel on my Endurance Pro as a GMT and a Divers Timer. To use it as a GMT I put the “N” on the Hour Hand. My cousin is 9 Hours ahead of me so his time is marked with “W”. My daughter is 7 Hours behind and shown opposite the 150 and my aunt is 5 Hours behind opposite 210. To use as a Timer I put the “N” on the Minute Hand. 15 Minutes is opposite “E”, 30 Minutes is opposite the “S” and 45 Minutes is opposite the “W”.
I just bought the black leather strapped Prospex Land and now I know how to use that internal compass bezel. I didn't learn that from my scoutmaster. Either I was absent or he could be dumb. Thank You!
🤯Mind blown. Thanks for this. Now I'll look smart if someone ever asks me about my alpinist instead of an idiot. I love your content. I just haven't found an Islander I love YET. Keep it up.
I used that trick about 20 years ago to figure out which way was home. Was way out of town and the road signs were not clear and I didn’t know if I was going south or north. So I used my seiko dive watch and did that little trick and figured out pretty quickly that I was headed north so I took the next exit and got going south. Also use it frequently when hiking for general direction. If it’s critical then the GPS comes out. But I didn’t have that 20 years ago. So once it saved my ass from going several miles out of the way. Great video as always Marc. Also quick question do you have a link for the seiko flight master instruction book. I bought it used and didn’t come with any paperwork. The bezel was scratched pretty good so just got done popping a new one on with my press.
Im really looking for a good mechanical military simple navigation watch. The reason why is because the last trip i was 2.5 hours in a decent deep forest, no way to tell what is north or south nor how long it is to safety if something should go wrong. I checked the map and i saw the last turn didn't seem to fit. I took a wrong turn and i checked for North and south to get me started to find my way back. My Navigation app said i was way too deep (about 6-8km more than i expected), that was wrong so i checked my Compass on the iPhone, it started bouncing around all over the place. I was screwed. I had 5 more hours to walk to get to my destination and thank god i remeberd the Boyscount method. I DINT EVEN HAVE A WATCH so i used the Iphone Clock app logo with shows the clock in real time. it was extremely small and hard to match it with the sun but i figured it out and clicked the degrees in the compass app en followed it for 1.5km in deep snow that is laying over a frozen swamp. I finally got me back to a place called Helvete and rustdelva on the map. That actully means Hell and Rust sunken. So i went from lost to hell
hey Mark, how about if you live at the equator? do you follow the northen hemisphire one or southern one, or maybe is there any additional "rule" to be followed? thanks!
So, you always go for the SHORTEST angle between noon & the hour hand to give South (northern hemisphere)? Very interesting, thnx! First saw this in the ‘Scout Handbook’ many, many years ago! 😁 Love your videos btw
Another well presented and informative video. This is a great trick for people to know and one I never learned until I purchased a SARG005. I always thought the internal compass added an extra level of cool to the watch compared to a standard bezel version.
Just curious, is it normal that the north position doesn't perfectly aligned with 12 o'clock position like the regular diving bezel? I have Ball DU with inner navigation bezel and the N mark slightly off the 12 hour mark and it's just bothering my eyes LOL 😂. Please let me know if this normal or somekind of lack in detail making process. Thank you so much!
Just got the Seiko SARB017 and it seemed silly not to at least know how to make use of the rotating compass bezel feature. Thanks for explaining it in terms even I can understand. Thanks too for pointing out the need to account for daylight savings time!
Congrats on your new shark atlas., the albino face is reckoned to be a lot rare. Even amazon are retailing with a 379 price tag, thanks for letting me know I can get a glass back. Cool horology vid.
recently got an srp747. good to know. one question, what if you were in the tropics , in between cancer and capricorn or exactlu along the equator, what do you do then? with the bezel i mean. using the path of the sun, east and west can be found, 90 or 180 degrees perpendicular would be north and south. but can you use the bezel in this situation?
Excellent ! I've known about this for years, and even though I've Googled it.... This is by far the most understandable bit of tuition. .... Many thanks....J
I used mine for night land navigation. You use the watch bevel to set your direction after shooting an azimuth. Since the watch has a low-light signature it is easy to read. And helps keep you going in the right direction.
Good refresher for me. I forgot about setting south between the hour hand and 12. I thought you set south to the hour hand. And I never learned about adjusting for daylight savings.
Nice video Sir, really informative and though this knowledge was always available in public domain I never bothered to know it untill I brought timex expedition mf13 and decided to know why manufacturer give bezel compass. I really appreciate the video.
Hi Mark, I was just wondering, are these two watches a navigator watch? Just a curiosity. I haven’t find a clear answer regarding navigator, infact just wondering why we call navigator watch and what feature makes watch navigator?
So for regular watches, just point the hour hand at the sun, see where the mid-way point between that and the 12 o'clock position is and north is behind you, east is right, west is left? Or am I wrong?
Because I am an old man, I don't remember exactly boy scout days. But as I remember, we put a stick in the ground and laid the watch in the shadow. Then, rotate the watch, so the hour hand aims at the stick. I think halfway between the stick and noon was south.
I had watched this video 1/2 year ago. Good refresher course. Young watchmaker Masahiro Kikuno design a wristwatch that displays Japanese temporal time. As days lengthen and shorten through the seasons events like sunrise, noon and sunset will occur at their assigned temporal time. That would throw an interesting complication into "boy scout" rule. What do you think?
Looking for a watch like SRP669K1 really interesting timepiece. Ah... and thanks for this tip. Always wondered there was a trick to it other then just the looks. That's it.... the timepiece I want to get when possible.
CALM-pass bezel? Man that Seiko 5 looks nice. I'm surprised that it's so affordable, especially with a new 4R movement. Seiko has been really upping their game recently.
At 6pm just use what you learned about your location from 6am. My apologies if you are at sea, you're screwed, but in a few hours the sun will set and you'll know which way west is. If it's night time and you are lucky enough to have the moon out, it behaves the same way.
when you say that south is halfway between the hour hand and the 12 o'clock position, you mean halfway when going clockwise or the shortest way ? (for example, if the time was 4, is south towards the 8 o'clock position or towards the 2 o'clock position?)
Another very handy, informative video! Why do I always start watching your videos at bedtime and end up going to bed really late....lol! FYI it is 3:26 AM as I'm typing this...better go crash. Keep up the good work!
What is a 24 hr rotating bezel on a 12 hr dial used for? I was looking at a beautiful Mathey-Tissot Rolly Vintage but it doesn’t have the GMT hand. I can’t imagine that anyone making Swiss watches would add a useless feature...is it merely an hour timer?
I was never a boyscout, but i read about this trick when i was 9 or 10, used it ever since. I now also have a 24 hour watch, so the 12 o'clock position always is in the south, when i align the sun with the hour hand..
I wear a Seiko 5 SRP667K1 but with a canvas strap. I didn't know that the 669 came with a bracelet! Looks much more cooler with a bracelet. Will probably order one.
Amazing Video Mark.I always learn something new from them.Thanks as always for sharing your brilliance. So I have to ask this question watch guy to watch guy."Maybe I am just getting old" I notice in a lot of video's on different you-tube channels that a lot of the reviewers wear a watch on each arm. Soooo hears the question.The watch on each arm is just for the video, not a daily ritual?. Just wondering.
Good to remember, very useful trick! Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think I read somewhere that for the southern hemisphere you'll need to point the twelve o'clock mark towards the sun and half the way between it and the hour hand you'll find North. I already tried both southern hemisphere methods (using a cup of coffee as my sun) and there's a huge difference. But what if you happen to be anywhere near the equator line? BTW love the educational purpose of your channel and those gloves look cool!
Long Island Watch Javier and John are making a different point, I think. Between mentioned parallels it will be difficult to project the position of the sun onto the horizon. South of that area you can again make said projection and one would be using Javiers method.
Javier Murcia You are right and it has to do with the direction the sun (seemingly) moves in, combined with the direction of the hour hand. On the northern hemisphere they move in the same direction (with the hour hand moving twice as fast), but in the southern hemisphere they move in opposite directions. The methods would only be the same if down south you would use a watch that moves counterclockwise.
Long Island Watch nice video Marc! I live in Singapore and we are right at the equator. So what I should place in between my hour hand and 12 o'clock marker? 😀
I'm still confused on how you would keep the location. Like if you turned your body and got lost, how would you know which way is which? Because the watch turns with your body. So once you turn left or right, your watches directions turn too...?
I will never understand why anyone would dislike a simple educational and possible life saving video??? Thanks
People with no life und no education, unfortunately
Perhaps because 5 minutes in he still didn’t explain?
Yeah a 2 minute video just full of fillers isn't great
Because it doesn’t take 5 minutes to get to the point.
I agree. People would rather have a quick, dumbed down version, instead of actually taking time to learn something.
Hi Mark, I live in Australia and 60 years ago when I was a scout I learned you point the 12 o'clock position on the dial at the sun and north is half way between the 12 o'clock position and the hour hand's position. This is the correct way to find north using a watch in the southern hemisphere, not as you have explained it as replacing south with north using the northern hemisphere method for finding south.
Also instead of continually making adjustments pick a landmark as far off in the distance, in the direction you wish to travel and walk toward it, you can then take another reading when you reach that landmark.
Yes, thank you. I had made an edit in the original video description a while back.
Sorry to rake over old coals, Mark, I didn't expand the description.
it'd be better to have annotations that u corrected the southern hemisphere reading in the video rather than description :) BTW, new to ur channel. Luv the info and details. Thanks!
Hi Robert,
I was just wondering, are these two watches a navigator watch? Just a curiosity. I haven’t find a clear answer regarding navigator, infact just wondering why we call navigator watch and what feature makes watch navigator?
Can't we just see the sun? I mean id it's morning then sun direction is east when afternoon sun is at west. Simple as that.
If you only have a digital watch, you can still do the "boyscout trick" by drawing the time on the ground (as an analog clock), lined up properly.
A friend of mine got out of the Navy a couple years ago. He was a navigator. He told me that they still also practice navigating by the stars every night, even though they also have the most advanced electrical navigation instruments on board that money can buy.
Makes sense. Using the advanced equipment is probably more accurate, but if you always rely on it, you’ll be in trouble if it fails. Best to develop star navigation skills as a backup.
Just got my Alpinist from you last week, so I didn't need to watch this video til then. This is really handy to know. I've known of hunters to not believe their compasses and end up getting lost in the forest. This is a great way to verify a company is working too. Hey, Marc, just ignore the comments about the waste of time with your "fluff" - your information is all interesting and useful. I enjoy all your videos!
Also works with a GMT watch, if the GMT hand is on local time when you point the hour hand at the sun the GMT hand will point north.
A great lesson for me, maybe I will never had to use compass on my watch but its allways good to learn new things, thanks!
This is very useful. Thanks!
My question is, what is the midpoint between hour hand when it’s 6 o’clock ?
Should I set south to 3 or 9?
Hi Mark. I am from Canada, now living the the Philippines. All my life I have done a lot of hunting and fishing and have used my watch as a rough compass 1000s of times. Canada being so far North, and during mid summer, has long daylight hours where it gets daylight before 6am and well after 6pm. During those hours when using a watch as a compass the 12 o'clock position flips from pointing South to pointing North. That is important to know or one can really get lost and confused.
Of course on a clear night after dark in the Northern hemisphere, the North Star (Polaris) is easy to find from the Big Dipper (Google it), then vertically down from Polaris to the horizon is exactly North.
Excellent video. I used this technique last weekend in the woods because I was too lazy to get my Silva system compass out of my pack (which would have required me unshouldering and reshouldering 20 kilos. And the cheap compass/thermometer attached to my pack shoulder strap isn't that accurate. If you don't have a bezel you can do it mentally. If you have a dive bezel you can use that, just decide what is what, for example you can point the arrow to the south position and just remember that 30 would be north, 15 west, 45 east. Thanks to the Long Island Watch man for reminding me about Daylight Savings Time, now I know why I was a few degrees off (but accurate enough to position a map and figure out where to go).
Google maps isn't so great when in the wild, a watch or compass and a paper map are much better. With the watch the advantage is you do not need to know what your local declention value is (deviation of magnetic from geographic north). My 40 gram Luminox Colormark is enough!
It's not just ensuring the time isn't set to DST, it's ensuring you're using local solar time as accurately as possible - and knowing how far off local civil time is from local solar time wherever you are. Some civil jurisdictions have deliberately put themselves nearly an hour ahead on standard time, putting themselves nearly two hours ahead on DST -- all so the wealthy die hard golfers can play golf at 11PM. I'm glad you corrected the Southern Hemisphere. If you imagine the solar motion at (local) 6AM, Noon, and 6PM, and how watch orientation can indicate direction, you can ensure you get it right. All that said, I used man-made and natural terrain features, combined with general solar position relative to AM/PM to properly orient a map, and determine more accurate directions much, much faster.
Great explanation. 36 years and I never learned that trick until now.
Knowing is half the battle!
Then I had to sit for 6 minutes of drivel before he finally got to the info... which felt like 36 years.
Search how to make a shadow compass with sticks, no need for a watch that way
Brad Taylor I beat you by 4 years. I am 40!
Learned it in scouts.
Thank you so much, I have a Seiko Kinetic GMT but had no idea why the compass points were on the bezel. Aside from an actual diver using their bezel for dive times this may be the most useful function on a bezel. Tachymeter scale wont get you out of a jam. I have gained a new appreciation for my watch, thanks.
Haha, great!
I enjoy your reviews and your watch and learns. I think, however, on the compass watch and learn you omitted an important point - which direction to go when you mark the halfway point between the hour hand and 12 o'clock?
If before noon, you move clockwise from the hour hand. If afternoon, you move counterclockwise. An important detail.
Just trying to practice that one. So, Could I also say... whichever is the shortest path from the hour hand to noon... take that one. That midpoint is south?
If you have a divers you can use 15, 30, 45 and your pointer as compass points.
^ = N
15= E
30= S
45= W
Good thinking. Now, if we can only get rid of DST...
@@theWZZA Move to Arizona. ;)
Thanks for the video. I would have wrongly "doubled" the hour rather than correctly "half" toward 12 as you've demonstrated. I'm happy to be corrected, and more fun not to be lost! Thanks.
Hi Mark,
I use the Compass Bezel on my Endurance Pro as a GMT and a Divers Timer. To use it as a GMT I put the “N” on the Hour Hand. My cousin is 9 Hours ahead of me so his time is marked with “W”. My daughter is 7 Hours behind and shown opposite the 150 and my aunt is 5 Hours behind opposite 210. To use as a Timer I put the “N” on the Minute Hand. 15 Minutes is opposite “E”, 30 Minutes is opposite the “S” and 45 Minutes is opposite the “W”.
So if the time is 18:20 and you point the hour hand at the sun. Do you position the S on the compass between 12 noon and 1820 or 12 midnight and 1820?
I just bought the black leather strapped Prospex Land and now I know how to use that internal compass bezel. I didn't learn that from my scoutmaster. Either I was absent or he could be dumb. Thank You!
Thank you for your information sir. Can we can tell time using not working watch and a compass , By following this principle in vice versa ?
Hr @ Sun, 1/2 way to 12=South.
Nov-March or -1Hr.
I etched this on the back of my watch so I'll never forget.
🤯Mind blown. Thanks for this. Now I'll look smart if someone ever asks me about my alpinist instead of an idiot. I love your content. I just haven't found an Islander I love YET. Keep it up.
I used that trick about 20 years ago to figure out which way was home. Was way out of town and the road signs were not clear and I didn’t know if I was going south or north. So I used my seiko dive watch and did that little trick and figured out pretty quickly that I was headed north so I took the next exit and got going south. Also use it frequently when hiking for general direction. If it’s critical then the GPS comes out. But I didn’t have that 20 years ago. So once it saved my ass from going several miles out of the way. Great video as always Marc. Also quick question do you have a link for the seiko flight master instruction book. I bought it used and didn’t come with any paperwork. The bezel was scratched pretty good so just got done popping a new one on with my press.
Hi Mark, a belated thank you for doing this video. It makes me want to buy the new Alpinist GMT watch.
I did learn this in Boy Scouts 50 years ago. Thanks for reminding me Marc!
Great tutorial, and that's a really neat trick that I didn't know about. One more thing I love about watches.
Awesome! Just got a Seiko with a compass bezel and I was wondering how it worked. Very, very cool. Thank you!
Im really looking for a good mechanical military simple navigation watch. The reason why is because the last trip i was 2.5 hours in a decent deep forest, no way to tell what is north or south nor how long it is to safety if something should go wrong. I checked the map and i saw the last turn didn't seem to fit. I took a wrong turn and i checked for North and south to get me started to find my way back. My Navigation app said i was way too deep (about 6-8km more than i expected), that was wrong so i checked my Compass on the iPhone, it started bouncing around all over the place. I was screwed. I had 5 more hours to walk to get to my destination and thank god i remeberd the Boyscount method. I DINT EVEN HAVE A WATCH so i used the Iphone Clock app logo with shows the clock in real time. it was extremely small and hard to match it with the sun but i figured it out and clicked the degrees in the compass app en followed it for 1.5km in deep snow that is laying over a frozen swamp. I finally got me back to a place called Helvete and rustdelva on the map. That actully means Hell and Rust sunken. So i went from lost to hell
what is the first watch model? it looks great
SRP669. I have the SRP667J1 on a leather strap and it’s awesome.
hey Mark, how about if you live at the equator? do you follow the northen hemisphire one or southern one, or maybe is there any additional "rule" to be followed?
thanks!
I'm a sucker for internal rotating bezels... SO nice and smooth. I wish you guys carried Hamilton, they make a pilot watch with a nice internal bezel.
Just emailed you about the Seiko sarb 017..Great feature for someone who likes walking in the woods. This was a new one on me, Thanks.
Hopefully you won't get lost now!
So, you always go for the SHORTEST angle between noon & the hour hand to give South (northern hemisphere)? Very interesting, thnx! First saw this in the ‘Scout Handbook’ many, many years ago! 😁 Love your videos btw
Another well presented and informative video. This is a great trick for people to know and one I never learned until I purchased a SARG005. I always thought the internal compass added an extra level of cool to the watch compared to a standard bezel version.
Thank you!
Just curious, is it normal that the north position doesn't perfectly aligned with 12 o'clock position like the regular diving bezel? I have Ball DU with inner navigation bezel and the N mark slightly off the 12 hour mark and it's just bothering my eyes LOL 😂. Please let me know if this normal or somekind of lack in detail making process. Thank you so much!
Seiko SRP669? It's looks really good! Especially the hands!
im a mariner and i carry protrek prg 250 and i was wondering where can i use the compass bezel since it has digital compass thanks for the info!
Just found your channel. Appreciate the boy scout lesson.
Very educational and thorough.
Good SOLID information that does not rely on electronics or Siri. or Google.
Just got the Seiko SARB017 and it seemed silly not to at least know how to make use of the rotating compass bezel feature. Thanks for explaining it in terms even I can understand. Thanks too for pointing out the need to account for daylight savings time!
Congrats on your new shark atlas., the albino face is reckoned to be a lot rare. Even amazon are retailing with a 379 price tag, thanks for letting me know I can get a glass back. Cool horology vid.
Best example I’ve ever seen. Great job 👏
recently got an srp747. good to know. one question, what if you were in the tropics , in between cancer and capricorn or exactlu along the equator, what do you do then? with the bezel i mean. using the path of the sun, east and west can be found, 90 or 180 degrees perpendicular would be north and south. but can you use the bezel in this situation?
Thank you Mark! I wanted to learn that trick 👍🏻
Great that someone is doing these kinds of videos.
Thanks for checking them out.
Excellent ! I've known about this for years, and even though I've Googled it.... This is by far the most understandable bit of tuition. .... Many thanks....J
Thank you.
Is the reverse possible? Identifying approximate time, by knowing the direction and sun position 🤔?
I used mine for night land navigation. You use the watch bevel to set your direction after shooting an azimuth. Since the watch has a low-light signature it is easy to read. And helps keep you going in the right direction.
Good refresher for me. I forgot about setting south between the hour hand and 12. I thought you set south to the hour hand. And I never learned about adjusting for daylight savings.
Instructions not clear, I burnt my eyes from looking at the sun
yeah it cost around 50-200 eye cells depending on where you are.
Nice video Sir, really informative and though this knowledge was always available in public domain I never bothered to know it untill I brought timex expedition mf13 and decided to know why manufacturer give bezel compass. I really appreciate the video.
Hi Mark, would like to ask if I’m located in the equator. How do I go about using the bezel? Thanks!
Hi Mark,
I was just wondering, are these two watches a navigator watch? Just a curiosity. I haven’t find a clear answer regarding navigator, infact just wondering why we call navigator watch and what feature makes watch navigator?
What If it's 6 o clock? Do you put south halfway on the left or right?
Good question. I think it's the right. But I'm confused about that too.
So for regular watches, just point the hour hand at the sun, see where the mid-way point between that and the 12 o'clock position is and north is behind you, east is right, west is left? Or am I wrong?
Kudos for Mark on these videos, great place to buy my watches from too.
Thank you for checking it out.
Because I am an old man, I don't remember exactly boy scout days. But as I remember, we put a stick in the ground and laid the watch in the shadow. Then, rotate the watch, so the hour hand aims at the stick. I think halfway between the stick and noon was south.
One more reason to wear a cool mechanical watch. Great stuffs and please keep them coming. Thanks!
what about the difference of using this method in the morning and in the afternoon when finding south by judging 1/2 clockwise or counter-clockwise ?
I had watched this video 1/2 year ago. Good refresher course.
Young watchmaker Masahiro Kikuno design a wristwatch that displays Japanese temporal time. As days lengthen and shorten through the seasons events like sunrise, noon and sunset will occur at their assigned temporal time. That would throw an interesting complication into "boy scout" rule. What do you think?
hi what was the model of your orient watch. Good instructional video
Orient Dual
Looking for a watch like SRP669K1 really interesting timepiece. Ah... and thanks for this tip. Always wondered there was a trick to it other then just the looks. That's it.... the timepiece I want to get when possible.
Fantastic explanation, very thorough!👏
CALM-pass bezel?
Man that Seiko 5 looks nice. I'm surprised that it's so affordable, especially with a new 4R movement. Seiko has been really upping their game recently.
For sure!
Thanks Mark. Nice gloves. So, in the Northern Hem at regular time, at 0600H, I point the S at the 3 or at the 9? At 1800H, where do I point the S?
At 6 am the sun is probably very low on the horizon, just assume that to be east and don't worry about the watch at all!
At 6pm just use what you learned about your location from 6am.
My apologies if you are at sea, you're screwed, but in a few hours the sun will set and you'll know which way west is. If it's night time and you are lucky enough to have the moon out, it behaves the same way.
Very cool. Do they still make that internal bezel watch? I have the other.
when you say that south is halfway between the hour hand and the 12 o'clock position, you mean halfway when going clockwise or the shortest way ? (for example, if the time was 4, is south towards the 8 o'clock position or towards the 2 o'clock position?)
Good question; shortest way!
Thanks Marc, another informative video. Always look forward to them. Have you done one on GMT watches ?
Yes, there is a watch and learn on GMT / dual time watches; check it out!
so basicly we align hour with SE then point hour to the sun right?
Another very handy, informative video! Why do I always start watching your videos at bedtime and end up going to bed really late....lol! FYI it is 3:26 AM as I'm typing this...better go crash. Keep up the good work!
What do you do when the hour and minute hands are exactly 180 degrees (30 mins) from each other? Which way is south
Does it work if I'm located along the equator?
Thanks Marc. I was going to (eventually) look for a video to explain this! Now I can find my way if the lights ever go out!
Haha, great!
Can i change the strap on seiko srpa71k1? I like the model but i dont want the stainless strap..
What is a 24 hr rotating bezel on a 12 hr dial used for? I was looking at a beautiful Mathey-Tissot Rolly Vintage but it doesn’t have the GMT hand. I can’t imagine that anyone making Swiss watches would add a useless feature...is it merely an hour timer?
thanks for the video mark.......learned a new thing today
logo on the gloves is a nice touch
Great, thank you.
Would this work with a 24 hour watch/dial?
Marc, you gave new meaning for my compass bezel watches! :-D
Awesome, enjoy it!
Thanks for the perfect explanation! 👍
I was never a boyscout, but i read about this trick when i was 9 or 10, used it ever since.
I now also have a 24 hour watch, so the 12 o'clock position always is in the south, when i align the sun with the hour hand..
Awesome video! I learn something new everytime I watch your videos...Thank Marc, Happy New Year! ....Ed L.
Thanks Ed, same to you.
I wear a Seiko 5 SRP667K1 but with a canvas strap. I didn't know that the 669 came with a bracelet! Looks much more cooler with a bracelet. Will probably order one.
Absolutely good looking watch.
Exactly my thoughts. The movement is also incredible.
I have the SRP667 on a grey leather strap. It looks amazing and I get compliments when I wear it.
Hey thanks for this video. If I live in new Hampshire that means I have to turn the watch back an hour?
Nice information, thank you.
I live on the equator. How can I find out cardinal points with my watch? thanks
The sun only indicates east, the zenith and west. There is no need for a watch.
Amazing Video Mark.I always learn something new from them.Thanks as always for sharing your brilliance. So I have to ask this question watch guy to watch guy."Maybe I am just getting old" I notice in a lot of video's on different you-tube channels that a lot of the reviewers wear a watch on each arm. Soooo hears the question.The watch on each arm is just for the video, not a daily ritual?. Just wondering.
Almost daily!
Brilliant! Very informative Mark. Thanks you.
Will try this tomorrow. That was awesome...
Really like new gloves. As always, great video.
Thanks!
what brand is that 'time is money' watch looks awesome ??
Limited Edition by Pedre for Disney.
what if the sun is directly over head, like 12o'clock on a summer day. how would you know which way to orient the hour hand?
Unless you live between the 23rd parallels that will never happen.
Good to remember, very useful trick!
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think I read somewhere that for the southern hemisphere you'll need to point the twelve o'clock mark towards the sun and half the way between it and the hour hand you'll find North.
I already tried both southern hemisphere methods (using a cup of coffee as my sun) and there's a huge difference.
But what if you happen to be anywhere near the equator line?
BTW love the educational purpose of your channel and those gloves look cool!
Javier Murcia Correct. In the Southern Hemisphere you point 12 at the sun and North is halfway between 12 and the hour hand. Have used it for years.
That's why I wanted to use the Geochron. I contend that if you are between the 23rd parallels, the there are times the trick will not work.
Long Island Watch
Javier and John are making a different point, I think. Between mentioned parallels it will be difficult to project the position of the sun onto the horizon. South of that area you can again make said projection and one would be using Javiers method.
Javier Murcia
You are right and it has to do with the direction the sun (seemingly) moves in, combined with the direction of the hour hand. On the northern hemisphere they move in the same direction (with the hour hand moving twice as fast), but in the southern hemisphere they move in opposite directions. The methods would only be the same if down south you would use a watch that moves counterclockwise.
I'm going to post an addendum to the video description. You guys are right! That's why I love this stuff. I'm learning too!!!!
Awesome video ! Thanks so much, that was really helpful
Yet another informative video. Thanks
thanks!
nice gloves man!
keep up the good work!
Thanks!
Long Island Watch nice video Marc! I live in Singapore and we are right at the equator. So what I should place in between my hour hand and 12 o'clock marker? 😀
Could you do one about magnets and automatic watches?
Excellent excellent excellent; thank you!
I'm still confused on how you would keep the location. Like if you turned your body and got lost, how would you know which way is which? Because the watch turns with your body. So once you turn left or right, your watches directions turn too...?
Does someone knows the exact model of the Orient he's using?
Thanks
Little late but I found it searching Orient Dual Time Zone FXC00002B0 or WV0041XC.
Can someone please provide the seiko 5 reference?
SRP669
Ok, but it is night time, the moon isn't even out, and I am lost right now, what do I do? Can I point it at the nearest streetlight?
Thanks a ton. Cool little trick