My Response to Greg Doucette | Natty Talk
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- Опубліковано 23 лип 2024
- So Greg Doucette made a video on The Rock, while analyzing my discussion on natural muscle. Here's what I think.
0:00 Intro
0:38 Enhanced makes all the difference
1:09 Most lifters don't look good, period
2:40 The transformation that occurs
3:50 30-50lbs of muscle additional?
4:55 If it was that easy...
6:08 The brainwashing
6:49 Greg's Chart
7:39 50lbs of Muscle Over 20 Years?
9:22 Greg shut down his natural T
10:44 Drug influencers
11:08 The unfortunate truth
12:30 Go see a doctor!
13:05 Greg's Health
14:21 Short term gratification
14:38 A shadow of your former self
15:51 Training for 5-10 years naturally
18:06 What naturals actually want
19:23 Chris Bumstead disappointment?
20:11 You always want more?
21:05 The Rock!
21:51 Real naturals look similar
23:29 Realistic Strength standards
25:15 Genetics.. But!
25:38 Natural path is the best
27:15 Natural muscle is easy maintenance
27:48 Maintain your size with a low dose?
29:58 What happens if they became natty again?
30:36 The final message
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Alex has 3 looks:
- The gamer (in the chair in front of his PC)
- The bodybuilder (in front of his power rack)
- The professor (with a polo shirt and glases)
Lol love this!
don't forget the wife beater, greek dad look
What about the tank top at the park bear mode alex?
@@Ghost-fe1vp 😂
and also the brofessor look
Thank god Greg actually brought a smart natural lifter back to the light. I was getting sick of him addressing skinny girls with 5 thousand followers who eat on camera
time to make one about bugenhagen
Calling someone a girl and then reveal that you got hurt by them eating on camera is some real low IQ shit man
@@PrimusInvictus ?
@@harrispapadakis8523 ?
You cannot seriously call a guy a girl, when you literally whine like a bitch in the same sentence. That is some real low IQ shit. Easy
Doucette churns out a ridiculous amount of garbage content these days to be honest
"There's this big disconect between what steroid users find to be aesthetic, and what normal people find to be aesthetic" this.
yeah I'm into fitness and get recomended some roiders on Instagrams explore page. Dudes look like monsters to me and people in the comments wanna look like that
Yeah I definitely don’t wanna look like a pro bodybuilder no offense to anyone that Is or does but it looks disgusting to me
This I think is a big takeaway from the video great point!
So true! This comment is on pointtttt.
@@arstans1777
Those are the same people that like the Ryan Gosling and Brad pitt physiques too. They don't know what they want they just want to look better than they already are.
I disagreed where Greg said you can't reach your dream physique naturally. It's just that people's perceptions of what a dream physique is have been distorted by seeing the bodies of those using drugs & the normalizing of those drug aided physiques.
Most peoples dream physiques are probably enhanced ones
Whats unachievable about 180 relatively lean pounds? Exactly, nothing. Even Zyzz physique is attainable naturally for people with great genetics. Just because he was blasting like crazy, does not mean you have to too
Yeah, if you can't achieve your dream physique naturally then you have body dysmorphia. Period.
@@boxfuto915 not always. Trust me, in our current society, a lot of people’s dream physique is a “satisfying” one. I currently have my dream physique and now the challenge is maintaining. Sometimes I would get a bit bulkier and lean down, then I’m good.
He literally abused tren and was blasting for years and actually thinks most people want to look like Chris Bumstead like he wants. Delusional.
Greg Doucette looks like Puri Puri Prisoner, and I can't stop thinking about it.
Literally man
Put some respek on Puri Puri's name, he's manlier than Greg
😂😂😂
this can not be unseen holy shit
Hahahahahaha
Dude you are so underrated , keep growing . Natural game is long , but it's always great to look in the mirror and feel this was all me and no bs juice . 😌 I never imagined a twig like me could have veiney arms and be built . 3+ years of onn n off lifting and I love myself now ❤️👍🏼
oho tu to swetabh vala banda he
@Austin Harp Fitness Well..How do you know that exactly?..
@Austin Harp Fitness That's totally awesome. But your saying your experience was much more rewarding than one you never had....
@Austin Harp Fitness I get ya. Totally not diminishing you and you should feel great , because you have achieved a lot.
@Austin Harp Fitness Ill give you a counter experience. I benched 315 week before last for 15 reps. I'm 51..And im on liberal TRT..For me this was awesome, regardless of being on test.
I can listen to Alex all day. His mindset is different from the rest of the fitness people on youtube. He doesn't just talk about muscles, but health as well which has to be number 1 priority and it isn't in most cases.
I think you would like Natural Hypertrophie once you get into it too, pretty similar message I would say and that guy really knows his shit
Unlike Greg he knows about training way way much more
@@alexakos1223 how?
greg has records within both powerlifting and bodybuilding, and he is a kinesiologist.
@@adiztroyer being strong and jacked doesn't mean you know what's your talking about. He doesn't know exact shit, he ha said a lot of stupid things regard to strength and hypertrophy Training, watch the debate with dr israelet and watch curlean x video about Greg. You'll see what kind of nonsense he says. One of the best strength coaches on the planet roasted Greg on that debate, and if you want go check vegan gains video about gregs rpe analysis he got roasted again. If you know anything about training you'll see by yourself what a clown Greg is.
@@alexakos1223 imaginé quoting vegan gains thinking to discredit someone.
I hope Alex’s subscriber count goes up from this.
Yup. Not the worst thing in the world to have Greg spotlight your channel
Yeah...why he is at 200k for along time...
@@tijus2675 yeas cause ppl like bullshit drama and idiots who whould do anything to get more subs and views, the most real dudes don't have that much publicity.
What will u get from that?
@@alexakos1223 what they really need is 4000 years of Chinese love
"They are drug influencers." Exactly
Lol Greg and his fanboys would be triggered as hell from that statement, funny thing is that he does the same thing when calling people out as not natty and laughs when they get triggered. Hypocrites
Body builders loves to downplay PED's and claims its all genetics yet every body builders, fitness model and fitness youtuber using PED's. If they had good genetics, they wouldn't be abusing so much cuz they have good genetics to look like a fake natty.
A respectful dialogue between fitness youtubers? Gym bros won’t watch but the ones who do will benefit.
Greg sounds like a goose. Alpha destiny is the only one in this debate making any sense
At least we can see two different perspective, one from natural lifter and one from pro who natural and go to dark side after.
@@TransformXRED at least he admitted when he was wrong, he is like whistle blower on fitness UA-cam. And yes his screaming is annoying, but we can see who he is when he do collaboration with other fitness UA-cam.
actually thought he was a bit of a dick at some points
@@TransformXRED Alex was not being as respectful as he could, did you even watch some parts of the video? He literally talked down to Greg and said it was disappointing he made his own choice to go on steroids and Alex was acting like he’s “holier than thou” for being natural.
The comment I made on Gregs video is the same thing you said in this video "The average person doesn't want to aspire to look like Chris Bumstead"
Exactly!
Yeah we dont even wanna be as big as alex
people outside of strength and physique culture don't realize that Chris Bumstead's physique is so beyond what average people aspire to look like. I showed some friends who casually lift Bumstead's contest physique and they were literally grossed out by it, and don't get me started on open bodybuilders. the thing is that most people WILL be extremely happy with the physique they can achieve with very dedicated and intelligent training and nutrition for 5-10 years, and what I think Greg overlooks is that of people who train, almost no one trains naturally for 10 years with no breaks. You might not look like a pro bodybuilder, you might not even be the biggest guy at your gym bc genetics are real, but imo almost anyone who trains hard and smart for a full decade will look like an absolute stud to NORMAL PEOPLE. being in the echo chamber of online fitness gives ppl such unrealistic expectations of what the average person thinks about physiques.
@@seamusmichaelhogan3462 very well said
@@smokerx6291 i wanna be lol, and wanna be as strong as he is 🤣. In all regards, yeah we all wanna have a 6 pack and a low enough bodyfat where our muscles pop and we feel good 💪🏼
Naturals rise up, we have to put the health and fitness back into Fitness. It was suppose to be about looking good and being as healthy as we can. Now it's just the "aesthetic" and praise of lifting heavy weight. Don't get me wrong having muscles is good and putting up big lifts is empowering and makes you feel good, but we should never sacrifice our health to increase those two for the praise of others.(For regular people)
I work in a rehab hospital and Alot of patients are older population, alot of the older men(and women) always give me complements about my physique, and they tell me how they trained when they were young. It's fascinating, and out of all people to give me complements their's hit home the most. Alot of these older men trained when they were young, a few even showed me pictures of them lifting back in the day. The fact that they even now are still training, and working through rehab is motivating. Whenever they mention aging they laugh, joke about it, and mention how they did their best. Listening to them I realized that you're not suppose to be amazing forever, and that it's ok. I love training, and will do it until the day I'm done, but I don't ever want to be so deluded to think that all their is to my identity is my physical prowess. Apart of it, but not all of it. Getting old is apart of life. I worry that our generation(at least those involved in fitness) won't be able to take it as well as those before us. That's my rant.
Keep lifting, stay natty, do some cardio, and don't forget to live your life. 💪
One of the best comments on YT.
Amen.
Facts!
Social media has a huge effect on people's perception when their feeds are filtered to all the people who look jacked. Even training for just a short time and putting on a little muscle, you already look & feel better than the average person. I work in an office & even after just a year in the gym I was in better shape than 99% of the people in there. People's perception of "average" can make them unhappy in chasing something they cannot achieve.
And that is why you don't lift to impress...
So true if ppl put in the work they would be shocked and satisfied with how good they look.
Yep. Go to a commercial gym, a party or to the bar, and you are most likely the fittest dude in the room.
It's good to finally see someone who can actually maintain a discussion and argue their points without being childish and disrespectful towards the other person. You've earned a sub, Mr. Alpha. Politer than last time!!!
I definitely agree that as a natural it’s awesome to look in the mirror and see myself progressing. Knowing it was all me and just a sense of accomplishment. Not that others don’t have that. But sometimes we need to see it to believe it 💪🏽💪🏽
bro you cracked me right up after you said "Not me!" I fully agree, my girlfriend would dump me if I woke up looking like that. Its an insane mindset, i'm cool if I can get to 180-190 lbs at 6 foot 1. What ever happened to athleticism goals. It is so undervalued.
@Anik lmfao kevo reporting for duty. They best part is I'm Canadian and my name is actually Kevin Ruud. I dated an Aussie few years ago and she legit thought I was lying until I showed my ID. If I ever go down to Australia it's going to be hilarious
I gave up my natty card when I snort my first creatine cycle.
Lmfao
I just enjoy the process of training, sure the gains are slow when being natural but...its a process I enjoy
I'd like to have my 315 bench right now, but I know that if I did, I wouldn't appreciate it or be as excited for it
No its not slow when you’re young
@@yussefcheaitou It's the grind that we enjoy, the reward is just a cherry on the top
@@godlychimp5134 no I mean it's still slower than the expectation when looking at fitness models. Also it slows down after newbie progressions. Sure, it's still faster than an older man in his 30s but it's still takes patience. For example I'm 22 but I used to think I would gain as much as Alex within like 2 years with sub par training. Then I realised how hard you have to work and the time it takes. With all the other variables considered too. Food , sleep/ recovery , & the method of training etc.
@@henri4730 yeah exactly, the idea of being working hard and receiving a body like that. Also, it just feels good to be "athletic", Well to me at least
Dude, this is probably the best case I've ever seen for remaining natural. You've done a lot of great work on your channel. This video should be required viewing for anyone who's on the fence. Bravo, sir.
Been LOVING your content lately man. Real talk, and real shit. I’ve definitely thought about taking something here and there, but I always stop my thoughts and learn to love the natural path!
Alex, your videos and mentality have drastically improved over the years. Great job
Great discourse Alex, appreciate both yours and Dr Greg’s videos. Both of you should be at 1M Subs!
Alex is used to Blaha "debating" him. Of course he would be thankful to Greg for the way he handled the issue
Awesome response man, I love both you guys and appreciate the professionalism between the two of you!
Alex you've really done well here. I appreciate your work it's really made a difference in my mindset
Stay natural my brothers!! Yes, our physique will never compare to the enhanced guys, but at the end of the day, there’s a certain pride knowing what you have was all 100% YOU. When you’re enhanced, you can’t truly say it was all YOU. You had help, and it was massive help.
U can totally achieve your body that u want naturally
I disagree, sure not top enhanced lifters, but there's a shitton of guys with zero clue how to diet or train and go on a cycle anyway. I think a reasonable goal as a natural is to maybe look a bit unnatural after 10+ years.
I came back to your channel after not watching for a few months, you seriously speak the truth, and what you preach is what everyone needs to hear. Seriously a goldmine of good information.
You are looking good and natty my brotha🔥🔥
GOAT
I appreciate that OG Chris!!
Bruh usually telling someone they look natty isnt a compliment
30 minutes of intelligible arguments without aggressive editing/cuts so you know the Greg fanboys will just leave a stupid comment and not bother watching. Their loss.
They are like mindless sheep with Greg as their BDSM master, waiting to get spat on and shouted at on a daily
That's what his fanbase has become. Similar to what Athlean X has always been.
Man Alex, your production quality has absolutely skyrocketed over the years! Work of art and knowledge bro 🔥
How you only have 230k subscribers is amazing...You are always on point and your delivery and content is one of the best in the industry.
I just wish you the best man, I can’t even comprehend how underrated you are. It’s kind of sad to see such valuable content like yours not scattered in the mainstream fitness community.
I thought you messed with the audio on Greg's clips. Turns out that is his actual voice lmao
Well no
Greg messes with his own voice to sound like that. Dude reminds me of the parrot from Aladdin
@@josephgrmovsekcollaredcons6085 watched a 7 year old video. Not much of a difference, just slightly higher pitched now
@@leoxavier5785 holy shit man I wont be able to not hear this now
I think his voice gets higher as he screams. In normal talking voice the voice is lower.
U need to fix your mic tho it kept bugging out from time to time just letting you know in case you didnt know
Yeah it was a bit annoying for some parts, definitely gonna adjust the setting more next time.
Bro - you're spot on about Chris Bumstead vs. Henry Cavill. There's a very small sub-set of actual bodybuilders that want to look like Mr. O, and everyone else genuinely does NOT.
I appreciate the timestamps Alex. Thanks for keeping it real.
Alpha destiny > Greg Doucette
Greg was great at first but quickly became annoying. Watch MPMD instead
This is probably your best video I’ve seen in awhile
Im astonished, your videos are top shit quality, your information is insanely real and honestly the best in the industry. Ive watched you since i was 14... now im 19 and i havent been seriously training (on and off), and even when I had with rings untill Igot myself a nerve tear in my left trap, which put me out of training completly. Now ive been doing exercises i realised I can do to rehabilitate my shoulder and work my lower body ( at home with 5kg and 10kg dumbells). And even if I dont directly mirror your exercises Ive seen you grow into such a scolar of the art of training ivve learned so much. Probably the most important thing ive learned is to train for yourself, and your own goals. Comparing to other people whos interests and mindset is different to mine is pointless. Now im on a great path of becoming the best version of myself I can be (naturaly ofcourse, PEDs are straight up sad). Thank you so much and the greatest of regards from Slovenia
Fantasic video man. I could really feel your enthusiasm and passion for this topic. Very motivational as well. Thank you for driving all the natural lifters across the world. I think you bring a big inspiration to everyone who has contemplated taking PEDs. It is a huge issue at hand and I love the way you approached the topic in such a mature, realistic, and motivational manner.
Speaking of Steve Reeves, he also famously made a chart. He recommended aiming for 200lbs at six feet tall, adding ten pounds or subtracting ten pounds for every inch above or below six feet tall. Enjoying natural drug free bodybuilding can be a lifelong experience. Best wishes
Fantastic video. As a natural lifter…I lifted for a few years in my later 20s and then stopped. Started again a couple years ago (at 35) and doing it smarter this time and the gains are astronomically better! I’m in the best shape of my life and feel amazing. I’m 37 now and feel better than I did in my early 20s!!! ❤️💪🏋️♂️🤩
Alex, you, Scott, and Greg are my favorites when it comes to fitness and stuff. You guys always give the full truth about things
very well done response Alex, nice to see the two best fitness youtubers having a respectful discussion
Cant we just get back to the days where People like eugene sandow were considered big? Every woman i asked found mr. olympias to be "disgusting". Guys wake up, if you want such a body for your dating life , you are missing the fact that most women out there look for aesthetics that are 100% achievable naturally by almost everyone!
Look at AlphaDestiny and tell me he looks small. That would be body dismorphia.
People who juice themselves to infinity are actually comparing themselves to the physique of other dudes. Which i think i ridiculous. If you measure yourself against other men, then sure do it with your physical capabillities.
If you think an efficient martial artist or sprinter or any athlete would benefit from having a physique you see on the MR.O stage, then you need a meeting with reality my friend.
PS: Alpha you have grown a lot since i first saw your videos, and i dont just mean your physique , i mean something much more important.. your character. I remember how you desperately wanted to grow the beard and gave (imho) contrary advice to this video. Difference is , you actually grew out of it and earned a tremendous amount of respect on the way. A great voice in this fitness space which used to be a community but has become a competitive stage for lost young people trying to find their way. Man times were simpler..
Some great comments here Dennis, and thank you.
I think Greg by "you" didn't meant you but he meant us (the people watching his video) actually. Loved how respectable you were.
Yeah I think you may be right about that. Thanks brother.
That is exactly what I thought when this part of the video played.
He did, he addresses the audience as 'you' in his videos in general
wow, great video Alex, your subscriber count and influence will increase from this, and you definitely deserve it for the message you are sending.
Been following your advice with volume bodyweight training for a few months now, and my gains went through the roof!! I'm in a better shape and physic compared to when I used to lift!natural gains make you so proud and feel good about yourself. Thanks for all the content and valuable information!you sir are motivating a lot of people!
Awesome Video man, been a long term fan of yours and recently started my own channel to help spread the positive vibes! and your completely right most fitness youtubes tear each other down which is sad. Good to see people like you grow
Dude you are actually such a breath of fresh air. It's crazy how messed up people's aspirations are. I would be INCREDIBLY satisfied if I looked like Henry Cavill after even 15 years of training!
Class response. You are so underrated and you give the best advice for natural lifters. Big fan of your content.
This is what we need from you Alex! You are the most inspiring guy in fitness community. I think you have a small chance to turn this fitness industry to at least better direction.
Coach absolutely straw manned what people find to be aesthetic with their own bodies. It needs to be generalized and a lot of us would find a Henry Cavill look to be extremely satisfying
Side dod u not watch my video. Most people can’t look like Henry even with PED’s
Ctrl+F "strawman" ah good someone already said it. Gregs the king of making these kinds of arguments, probably gonna happen with the sheer volume of videos he puts out.
@@gregdoucette steroids r bad for u and cheating
@@gregdoucette Henry's physique isn't possible even with drugs? First I'm hearing this
@@gregdoucette a physique like his IS achievable naturally. Won't look exactly like him but close and I would find that very satisfying. I respect your standard of what is aesthetic but not everyone needs a CBum physique
I appreciate you both provide the real truth man.
I love how respectful you are to each other. Well done to both of you 👍💪
I agree with you Alex and think your arguments were presented very soundly. Glad I rediscovered your channel.
I like how they can have an actual discussion like adults instead of bashing each other, i think both of them have great points just different perspectives and experiences. I agree more with Alex though because i am natural and have no desire to use steroids.
These are true Canadians here having an argument. 😂
So much mutual respect.
Real pleasure to watch
Loved this talk. Glad to see two guys I follow and look up to having this discussion.
Alex i hope in the future you will make another video about the old school bodybuilders like the one you did on Steve Reeves who is a prime example of the ideal physique. It's refreshing to have people like you in the fitness community with a no BS attitude.
Out-STANDING! What an intelligent, mature, informative, response. A-friggin-plus, Alpha Destiny. SUBSCRIBED!
Most natties have crap diets and crap recovery. When you take steroids well the need for a great diet and great recovery goes down. Obviously having both of those things on top of PED use and effective training is the fastest way to grow muscle, its just for natties its not that easy. Most PED users have physiques that are attainable 100% natty. You can get really far just straight natty when you actually know what you’re doing. Having abnormally high testosterone levels is an insane advantage but so is actually eating right, sleeping right and training right
Man you put this so perfectly. There are plenty of natty guys who hit the gym daily and look like sh*t and plenty of users who hit the gym but have sh*t diets so they look terrible to. And I am SO sick of everyone talking about "bad genetics" because I can promise you almost everyone who lifts, natty or not never reaches there full potential because of diet and or routine
Man thanks for your videos. You are the Therapy for my Body Dismoprhia. I feel so much better already and i am pumped to get my Jacked natural Physique on point.
finally got back to your videos, amazing still, love watching them
Great video Alex. Naturals know they have to enjoy the process, most enhanced just care about the destination, which is unfortunately Because after you reach the end line, you might have nowhere to go.
keep fighting the good fight alex. us naturals appreciate you brother
really great response bro, your literally the best natural bodybuilding channel for information!
I appreciate you going over the idea that most of us want to look better, but not like the big bodybuilders of today. This is something that is common knowledge, but is rarely shared in the fitness community, at least from the videos I've seen. Was already a great video leading up to that point, but that moment sealed the deal. Appreciate your content on natural muscle building, and spreading the message of loving one's own body and their own natural potential.
you and greg are super professional in disagreement! Very impressive, man.
I agree the strength standards are way too low. People see me benching 225 for reps and they think I’m a freak. Is it genetics? Or is it the fact I know how to train and I’m not afraid to eat? People just don’t know what they’re doing and it’s sad
Too many people think you can't achieve any results with out PEDs. Or they think you can but don't want to have to train for a few years consistently, they want to post on IG yesterday...and get all those likes.
I am shooting for a 240 bench next January 2022...I will be 60...no dope just training and good food. I would like to drop a bit of fat, but would rather be strong than ripped.
I got on to Alpha, from his 'bear mode' video. Looking decent a little more bulkier, but feeling good. Cheers
2 of my favorite UA-camrs for sure.
Great to see you guys debating as you should debate. Hope your channel blows up Alpha, you deserve it.
You responded with class and swag Bruh! I'm freakin' subscribing, you got yourself a new natty fan💪😎
I remember subscribing to you 2 years ago and reading such comments as "the dude sounds like a douche but knows his stuff, it's acquired taste but he's one of the good ones" and now to see such positivity, maturity, being much more articulated, while keeping a burning passion it's really inspiring. Much love and respect from a 43 yo lifter from France.
Been subscribed to him since 5 years and this guy gives one of the best advice for the natural lifters and he has completely transformed from 5 years ho he used to be before in terms of his personality
@@amit4rou And I really like the fact that he's keeping putting quality, useful, content when we know that fitness no longer gets views. He's one of the rare to be still continuing that (Sean Nal being one of them, probably Nippard, and where the hell is Omar Isuf btw?!)
@@michaelthreepeat absolutely dude, Some guys like Sean, Jeff nippard, Eric helms, Alberto Nunez, Scott Herman ... And I think Omar was found guilty of smuggling creatine and put behind bars lol
I'm a bit late, but if u haven't already, u should check out Natural Hypertrophy. He's a fellow Frenchman
I wish I found this channel earlier. Great content, keep it up
new subs fk yeah
btw what elo are u
@@yussefcheaitou Sitting at plat 3 53% wr rn, the struggle is real 😅
Big fan of your channel Alex and this video. More people need to hear this message.
I highly value your channel and recommend you to noobs because you are more than a bodybuilding channel.
You have made me take my health more seriously by improving my diet and cardio, and that's about the most important thing in fitness.
I think that if u genuinely wanna look like Cbum or ifbb pro bodybuilder you need to ask yourself these questions
1. Are you willing to potentially destroy your health?
2. Are you willing to permanently shut down your test production because a pct may not work
3. Are you willing to lose ur muscle or stay on a trt protocol for life?
If you say no to any of these basic questions then stay natural bois.
Definitely would like to see this type of content on any currently relevant topic in the fitness industry
You handled this perfectly man, awesome job. Informative discussion, no bullshit drama 🔥
Awesome Video and lovely respectful discussion amongst yourself and sensei Greg
your video gives me confidence that ill be a great natural lifter.
You will look great. Even the steroid monsters would look fantastic, based on their consistent training for years, some decades. To compete at that level the PEDs are a must because of the direction the sport has went, but they still put in the work.
Long term consistent training is number 1, followed by good nutrition is the key.
Cheers
Amazing response, great job man
You're the most underrated fitness youtuber. You're an og and deserve more subs, so hopefully this is a great chance for you to blow up.
I subbed to your channel. This is my first time seeing you, and I am impressed!
People wouldn't even just be happy with the natty gain standards mentioned in the video; just acquiring newbie gains is a huge confidence booster. And one year of lifting provides amazing results.
Always wondered what the guy that did the voice of Skeletor looked like!
Yo Alex, I really enjoyed the video. You had some very good points while being very respectful - class act. Could definitely do with more content like this, keep it up.
so glad i came across this channel and Greg's, we need more real speakers like the both of you...not only do people need to know these truths about roids. I think a realistic look at how to go about using them (not a tutorial but like a perspective), and exactly how expensive it is to do it correctly. Not to encourage it but to protect those that are going to do it anyway, theyre gona learn from the wrong people and doing it wrong can be a huge setback on health and gains. I used to train with big guys, and i was definitely not a body builder, and i let them pressure me into "trying it" and skipping a bunch of details, i regret it
Brad Pitt in Troy, Chris Evans in Captain America. Those are my favorite physiques. Not huge, but plenty of muscle, strength, and leanness.
While I don't enjoy what seems to be Greg's constant supply of drama or his brand of fitness content, I'm glad he kept it professional & respectful with you Alex. I prefer listening to you & your style of delivery & no nonsense approach to the madness I seem to see on much of YT fitness these days.
Clearly never watched my video. Should be thanking me for the video I made not hating but hey bring on the mosquitoes 🦟. U all new helping me.
@@gregdoucette I don't think there's anything particularly hateful about my comment Greg and I never used the word "hate". There is a big difference between "hate" and being critical/having an opinion. Just because I don't enjoy your style or your videos ( of which I have watched many) doesn't mean I hate you or wish you anything bad. It would help to keep that in mind before immediately jumping on the "hate" bandwagon and calling crtics "mosquitos" which isnt very mature or respectful and which is why I don't enjoy you.
@@brodietaym8475 Exactly bro. Anything remotely constructive criticism is automatically taken as hate. Geoffrey Schofield video that Greg tore him apart for was mostly praise and constructive criticism yet he took it all personally and edited it to make him look like a villain.
About timeeee you get featured on Greg’s channel!
Speaking of motivation, you motivate me very much, thanks.
U and omar have made me excited about being natty, i now aspire to get the "natty look" like you omar and nippard
Nippard ain't natty bro
@@at6062 oh yah? What does nippard take then?
@@at6062 he looks pretty similar to Alex. Why do you think he is not natty?
Not trying to be a duck, just curious
@@at6062 hes like 4' tall surely he could be natty at 100 pounds
@@suckonthebigtoe279 Lmao yea nippard is legit 5,5 i think. Short people can look so much better cuz the density.
Didn't expect this,hope you get some channel growth out of this. You are underrated.
Thank you AlphaDestiny for what you do for the natural community.I’ve been incorporating the neck/yoke workouts and man the results are real much luv bro💪🏼
Glad to see this crossover. Enjoy watching both of you dudes.
Alex love the content one of the only guys keeping it real in this industry I've been following you and a few others who also give out great content and I've achieved more than I ever thought possible so far and I'm only 20 been training for 3 years with good programming close grip benching over 3 plates and I can say greg is wrong I constantly receive positive feedback on my physique and strength 5-10 years of natty training you can definitely achieve a great body size and strength Greg's perception seems to unfortunately be scued by years of body building and gear use and this toxic industry keep up the good content 👍
Why is Greg underplaying steroid effects? I knew 2-3 people in my small gym, about 20 yo guys, that went from 175 muscular and lean to 225 lbs lean in 5- 8 months on oral steroids. About 2010 when "prohormones" were the real deal (or at least that's all they told me they were taking) They looked like they went through the hyperbolic time chamber. They had six packs before steroids and better six pack after the huge weight gain. Their Bench went from 250-275 to 405. Eventually one guy got gyno and later got surgery to sort of fix it, still looks bad. The other broke his arm from arm wrestling one time because his muscles were stronger than the bone after getting strong so quickly. I know one of them is in worse shape 5 years after steroids than they were before steroids.
Weight gaining doesn’t mean muscle gaining, a lot of those weight are water, not pure muscle tissue
@@mingkunsun2973 sure sure. But their six packs got better, they got leaner. And their strength almost doubled as I was saying. Loads of Muscle was gained.
@M B yeah, i know lean weight gain, that’s why I said water but not fat, pure muscle tissue can store a lot of water, let’s say a man that never lift start to lift for a week he gained 1lb . That does not mean he gained 1lb of pure muscle tissue, most of them are water.
Orals and prohormones are way more hepatoxic than the kinds of things Greg uses/has used, and he always says to use the smallest amount of compound you need to be happy.
Broken arm wrestling guy may or may not have broken his arm from over development of muscle tissue over ligaments if it was his shoulder or elbow, but people fracture their upper humerus while arm wrestling all the time natty using poor form
@@cowboy_henk wolfs law related to bone says bone strength is related to the stress it experiences. spiral humeral fractures are super common with arm wrestling because rotational stress is pretty uncommon. Then the rapid increase in strength out paces the bone adaptations
Alot of traffic coming your Alex! Best of luck to you and thanks for all the tips! 💪💪
This is classic, I love the rebuttals…lol!!! Alex! You are a beast… I appreciate you my boy. I found out about you through Jeff Nippard and love your style and message… keep up the good work 👍🏼