40k Combat Patrol is IMPORTANT to Wargaming
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- Опубліковано 16 вер 2024
- A new version of Combat Patrol for Warhammer 40,000 will be coming out this summer with the release of 10th edition - and it's important to the hobby.
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The idea is pretty good, a few years ago when I first got into Bolt Action I bought the two player starter set. It comes with an insert with all the basic rules, and 2 army lists. You don't have to think about it, you just build the models it says to and start playing. Like you said, it really cuts down on the analysis paralysis aspect which hinders so many people. Eventually, you'll start making your own lists, being more creative and all that but it's a good foot in the door.
Technically, you have always been able to do that with any 40K starter box.
Buy the box, use the models in the box to play your first few games.
The issue is, as soon as you want to expand, you gotta buy more books. Which is also kinda true for Bolt Action...
Snap! Had exactly the same thought.
It's very much like buying a pre-constructed deck in Magic: The Gathering (or other TCGs). You can play right out of the box, often with a rulebook and material telling you how the deck works. It's rarely the most powerful deck you could run, but if you're going up against someone with another pre-con deck (or against an existing player who deliberately creates a not-pushed deck), it's usually fair.
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It's a great idea as long as they will have a free section in app to keep these Combat Patrol boxes relatively balanced against each other.
The combat patrols have separate data cards that presumably won’t change
Combat Patrol started as an unofficial format called "40K in 40 minutes" during 3rd edition, helped by articles in White Dwarf and the internt becoming more available. They included it as a casual format called "Combat Patrol" in the 3.5 edition rulebook.
Mwhahahaha- i wrote 40k in 40 minutes back inabout 2003 to use in my school club, it git featured in White Dwarf, then was in 3rd edition from the get go. Andy Chambers once said to me it was a nice little hobby article. 20 years later it's still here. Thanks for remembering.
@@magratheabuilderofworlds7141 Thank you :)
The community contributions to WD was always some of my favourite content.
I'm excited about 10th Edition, as well. Combat Patrol seems like a good move, and the cool thing about it is that a combat patrol box is likely also a suitable crew for Space Station Zero or a cabal for Reign in Hell.
Actually this exactly
And you can make different killteams out of it I suppose
I got two boxes of combat patrol after the 10th edition announcement. One Tau, one Genestealer Cult. Pretty excited to get back into the hobby after a 15 year lapse. I like the idea of picking up a bunch of small armies rather than collect one big one. And hey with these boxes, maybe I'll even play a game every now and again.
My game group is psyched right now. We played WHFB back in the day. Went on to Mordheim, Heralds of Ruin, Frostgrave, Stargrave and so on.
And with the announcement of Combat patrol we all picked up a box and started painting (Mechanicus, Orcs, Militarum and Dwarfs). We never wanted to play 40k until now.
The smaller skirmish games are great for getting someone into the hobby. I got into the hobby last September with a seraphon start collecting box. Put together some models and painted them and that was fun, but at that point I wasnt sure if I wanted to spend another 200-300 dollars for a game I wasnt sure if I would even like (my friends are not interested in TT wargaming so I was going in solo). I then picked up the Kill Team starter set and was able to learn the rules and have some games vs myself and found out "ohhhh yeah, I like this alot." What was nice about the kill teams, is that I didnt have to do any list building like how these combat patrols are going to be which makes things sooooo much easier to get into.
Now I've met some really cool people through Kill Team tournaments and I've gotten some Age of Sigmar games in. I've got 6 kill teams now, around 2,500 points of seraphon army and working on a Big Waaaaaagh!!! army for AoS. If it wasnt for kill team though, I'm not sure I would have gotten into the hobby as fast as I did.
Anyways, thats a long winded way of saying I 100% agree with combat patrol boxes being good for the hobby, its a great easy and relatively cheap way to get new people into the game.
this^ same for me KT was a great intro, and now its gots me delving deeper into Boarding ACtions, and eventually into full on 40k
Used to play Warhammer back in the days (20 years ago) and just recently me and my son first bought the ultimate starter set, which really got us both in to warhammer 40k again. Now we've also bought extra packages and also grey knight combat patrol and thinking of chaos knights combat patrol. Loving all this painting and playing....
I went nuts with Boarding Actions at the end of 9th, which is relatively similar to what the new announced combat patrol seems to be. I bet there will be some separate rules for the boarding patrols in a book down the road. Also, because of Boarding Actions I am WAY more hyped for the rules in these Combat Patrol boxes. I want to dabble into smaller games and the newest edition seems to be hyping smaller games.
People tried to make combat patrol to work but being allowed to take massive things like a void dragon shard, flyers or a relic contemnor dread made it incredibly unbalanced. That is where boarding patrol succeeded and should be followed in combat patrol. But boarding patrol was also successful because of custom lists being fun little challenges to make. I don't think Combat will get that hype if they take the personalisation out of list making. What if you like an army but not it's box?
this. Lets me dredge out all my stuff since 1987
Something similar (rules changes) are happening in Boarding Action games. Fore example - Commander Farsight in regular 40k has 5 Attacks. In Boarding Actions - he's limited to base Attacks stat of 3. Love the changes regarding at least trying to make these boxes balance each other, and making the Combat Patrol rules and datasheets free. Wish they did something like Combat Patrol for Age of Sigmar.
Cool that 40k is getting updated again
Still waiting on chess 2e tho, it's been a while
Do you remember when they made the "En Passant" rule, but only printed in in the French edition? Good times. I stopped playing when they added Castling in the game, totally ruined the balance. White was overpowered anyways. :{)
Chess 2e has been released hundreds, possibly thousands of times. Grognards just keep going back to 1st edition.
I painted my first mini in February, a Defiler that was my son’s first model and he painted like a 19 year old newbie so when he moved out he left it and some old pewter Raptors. I bought a Termimator squad because the raptors didn’t have jet packs and painted them. Ok that was cool. But now I have a shelf with 6 figures and a bunch of shelves. Kevin pushed me to get a combat patrol so when 10th comes out I can jump right in to a simplified game to see if I want to do more than paint more minis.
The thing about the combat patrol boxes for new players is that there are still a lot of different models that can be built. Grey Knights for example. Dreadknight can be built as a Grandmaster, Terminators can be built as Paladins, strike squad can be built as interceptor, purifier or purigator. If you build one as a different option, does that make them ineligible for a combat patrol game? Or do you need to build them a certain way to work in combat patrol but then maybe take a hit on potentially units you’d rather have for a larger game?
This does sound like a good move and should certainly be a good starring point for new people who want to try this out. I might even dip back into gaming rather than just painting figures. I think my first box, if I do this, would be Eldar, just for the memories of the Epic Eldar and 40K Eldar armies I had, so, so many years ago!! Nostalgia is a very powerful emotion and can be expensive too!! 🤣🤣Thanks for sharing this Atom.👍👍😉
As a local rock musician in Portland Maine, I loved your music reference in this one ;) My band mates and I have known each other for almost 30 years- back in the 90's we all got into Warhammer Fantasy 5th Edition (HeroHammer) and the rest is history! Love your content, Atom!
It's great to see you excited about 40k again. :) It's infectious!
So long as you can get the rules, folks who already have armies will no doubt have the models for combat patrol lists to hand. It'd make it even easier for existing players to set themselves up as ambassador for the game.
Given the sound of things it actually makes me interested in getting a World Eaters box for 10th.
Also very much looking forward to seeing Adam's OG Tau revival combat patrol.
Does GW actually want their experienced players becoming ambassadors for the game?
@@nunyabidness3075they're not ALL assholes. Being able to hand someone a starter army and teach a match could be cool.
@@nunyabidness3075 No they don't want experienced players becoming ambassadors for the game. For 20 or so years now they've had the attitude that experienced players don't spend enough. GW staff have even stated that when people challenge them on their slow and steady push to alienate experienced players.
@@KrisTomich Interesting. I wasn’t trying to imply the experienced players were jerks, I was leaning more towards experienced players were not necessarily going to be as positive as GW would like, and would also likely talk about how to not over spend with the new players. Perhaps even discuss the availability of used models.
@@RavenMorpheus This was part of my thoughts. GW doesn’t seem to appreciate their older players who are perhaps a bit jaded and know the regular GW tricks to make money.
Whenever I think about building a new army, I always end up looking up the relevant Boarding/Combat Patrol box to see whats up just to get started with them cause USUALLY they'll have some basic units that I want anyway.
The great thing about this most streamlined edition of 40K ever (and I am convinced it is from the rules articles being put out) is that I already have several Combat Patrols to pick out from, built over the years, that match the contents of the boxes, foremost the Custodes.
this!
I may get myself a Mechanicus Combat Patrol Box, build that as they advise it, paint in the scheme as the rest of my Mechanicus and have that to play smaller or introductory games with and also be able to use it for my full Mechanicus army.
I stopped playing 40k at 4th edition. Never played 5th. Have about a 2500 or dark angels army, at least for 4th edition standards. Back then larger armies were more affordable. Now you need a home equity loan just to do 2000 pts.
I’m super excited about Combat Patrol. My daughter is turning 9 and has expressed interest in learning Warhammer 40K and I believe this will be a great entry point for her into the hobby.
As someone with a friend thinking about jumping into WH40K, the Combat Patrol support is going to be great. I already have all the units from the T'au Combat Patrol box, and he likes Marines and Necrons so either one would be a good buy and we can just start playing.
I really like the idea of the new Combat Patrol, I started wargaming with 40k in 3rd edition, but quit with 6th as I didn't like the direction the game went. I got back into it briefly with 8th and like it until the rules bloat got out of control. With all the announced changes for 10th, I'm really looking forward to playing 40k again, but as someone who doesn't have the time to play giant games of it with 200 minis, Combat Patrol sounds like a great way to get some 40k action without having a billion rulebooks, a giant table, or spending 6 hours to play a game.
I don't know how you do it, but your audio is the best of all the mini channels. A pleasure to listen to.
I played a bit of rogue trader in my youth, then fell out of the hobby for a long time. Lately, I've been enjoying my skirmish games and looking through the window at 40k. When 9th came out, I was a little tempted to get involved, but not really. This Combat Patrol thing is extra tempting though -- slightly larger scale than a Kill Team, but small enough that I can paint up multiple armies. IDK. I probably will stick to my fantasy stuff. But I am super tempted.
I also started at the end of 4th/beginning of 5th ed. I really enjoyed the Combat Patrol rules.
I also really liked the 2018 Kill Team because it used the same 40k profiles/rules.
I only have room in my brain for 1 game system at a time, so the 2021 Kill Team is literally "off the table" for me. So I'm looking forward to Combat Patrol being 40k on a small scale, rather than a new system.
2018 KT is much better just because of the sheer amount of options you get, glad to see people play this game
My 9 year old has been watching lore videos online and we took a trip to our local GW shop today. Combat Patrol seems like a great star for him, hence me YT'ing combat patrol videos. £95 for a playable army that will give him great painting practice AND he can start with a wide set of Chapters and Xenos. He was convinced he wanted to play Chaos, but the minute he saw Necrons he got super excited. I've never played WH40k for the record but his excitement is getting contagious.
I have two armies currently. Drukhari (which I'm taking a break from) and Tyranids (which I started because of 10th edition announcements). I've been playing 40k on and off, with my first time in the tabletop being with the Assault on Black Reach box set in 5th edition. Kinda wanna start a Dark Angels army at some point because that was what I ran back in 6th edition.
I do plan on playing Combat Patrol. Currently I have some decently sized Ork and Chaos armies, but I will use it to dip my fingers into some others, like Tau and Tyranids.
I would love to pick up one of each Combat Patrol boxes. This way I could just pull an army off the shelf and play.
Maybe even find a way to keep them in the box, so I don't need more plastic storage boxes.
Love your videos. Always good and informative.
I’m more interested in Kill Team for smaller scale games, but I’ll probably get the Sisters box just to try them out.
Hello, first of all, you are great, I've learned so much from you thank you. That aside, I was thinking on getting into WH, I've only painted Bolt Action and model kits before, when I saw the 10 edition being a good way to start with a combat patrol, I did not think twice and got Cadian and Votann Combat Patrols right there, I also found that the WH community in my country is great and really welcoming, so YES IT WORKED, I'm hooked and waiting for the new edition rules. PS> I was worried because I don't have the time for 4 hour matches, and I love the idea of buying different combat patrols to have variety in my collection.
Same as you, I've always bought and painted warhammer but never really played it because I felt it was just too much. I heard about the upcoming Combat Patrol rules and I already started buying boxes as well. I'm also getting my three boys into it now too, so we can play together. Like you, I love the Tau. I've read all the lore and really like how different they are from the main Terran factions. At any rate, I agree with your assessment and feel it's good for the hobby.
It's interesting how you like prebuilt lists for Combat Patrol, but not the current version of Kill Team as much, any particular details that make the big difference for you?
Most Kill Teams give you one (or maybe two) types of models in your team. In my Deathwatch box, I have Intercessors, Aggressors, an Apothecary, and a Lieutenant - and that box is one of the most homogeneous of the Combat Patrol boxes. I like more variation, and Kill Team 2018 had it, but Kill Team 2021 lost it. Thanks for watching!
Just had to chime in because that was how I got started in wargames too! Battletech in middle school with the cardboard standees, then a long hiatus because wargames were *expensive* until I seriously started with skirmish games maybe 5 years back.
I'm curious about getting into 40k solely due to the Necron MTG Commander Precon.
Space Robots that go beboop are pretty dope
Hey! Me too! I bought Necron Dynasty MTG Commander deck and that made me curious about WH40k. Those Canoptek looks sick af
Very much like you, I’m a skirmish game player and the second they described combat patrol I was onboard the 40k train lol
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El Camino. Good call. I have two BA wagons that I will start calling "El Carmino" and "El Encarmino". Thanks!
I just picked up the Blood Angels box as my first Army. Looking forward to getting deeper into the 40k hobby.
I've been thinking of getting Astra Militarum (Guard) for Combat Patrol and possibly Elder.
I am super pumped. I'm going to start with the CP of my original army from 25 years ago and update the scheme.
One of my favourite things back in 3rd edition was 40k in 40 minutes. I think that basically evolved into Kill Team and Combat Patrol. I think they revisited the rules and created "Patrol Clash" first.
Combat patrol has me interested. But a part of me fears it will be unsupported and relegated like the old one.
I wish warhammer would got to alternate activation.
But recently I pivoted back to Battletech and I had forgotten how good the rules were after the initial adjustment and learning.
Sounds like a good model for newbies.
I could also see a LFGS doing a combat patrol tournament day.
Combat Patrol is definitely making me think about trying out 10th. I’m hopeful the Vanguard boxes they’ve been releasing for AoS are in prep for something similar to be announced next year with AoS 4.
painting thousand sons, never thought i would play them, but with the new format i will give them a shot, i originally got the models because they look great and i paint more then play, but now i will get to play them, after them, deathguard
Corvus Belli has been doing this with INFINITY for years. Free pdf, free army builder, balanced starter boxes.
I also started in 5th edition. My first purchase was the Dark Eldar starter and Lelith as my HQ.
I’ve been excited about 10th cause I think it will be a good time to get more of my friends into warhammer, and combat patrol will be a great way to get them to play I hope
this!
The problem with comparing it to 8th is that the index rules were fairly unplayable without a massive amount of rapid fire FAQS which I think people forget about. I hope this goes better
I plan a Deathwatch Combat patrol, but I also have all the guys in a Grey Knight one as well. I'm still leery of how they plan in "balancing" the boxes forces seeing the wide disparity of points (now that power is dead) and the difference in the numbers of models therein. The question remains: who gets nerfed and who gets buffed? Especially those boxes that contain a vehicle which may be too tough for some forces to destroy. And what size tabletop will be used. A 4'x4' table seems awfully big (and empty) for a skirmish sized game. But mainly I 'm in it for the hobby.
It was actually an indie game-Forbidden Psalm-that lured me into the hobby (thanks to @TheDungeonDive) at the beginning of the year. My first two Combat Patrols I picked up recently were the Orks and the Adepta Sororitas, after having purchased and built my first Warhammer kit (Command Edition). Still learning the game.
I'm still new. Thinking I might eventually play combat patrol. First box will probably be aeldari, maybe necrons, or raven guard, if they get one.
Iv followed warhammer for a long time. But never commited to building. Iv recently decided to go back to minatures and im working on my tau army that i designed as a teenager.
But im keen with the announcement of combat partrol because like alot of people i never could commit the time ir had the friend group to play, but iv talked my brother into getting a combat patrol and learning the game with me, so im excited for the times to come.
I love this idea so much. I am a brand new player in this hobby (started Ad Mech in January), and holy man the game is daunting. Fortunately, my personality and the way I game... I spend hours doing research and figuring stuff out, so I have been able to pick it up decently. But all my friends aren't that way, and its at the point where its overwhelming for them. Now giving such an easy way to start learning the game, and easy way to collect (because now your first box might not be a dud, since you can play just the box)... yeah its just smart.
I just got interested in 40k like a couple weeks ago so the timing is pretty impeccable. Except I'd like to go get a rule book but it feels like I should just wait for 10th to drop then get one then. I did order a Grey Knights CP box though so I can't wait to get that together and painted.
The dream is getting **NEW** Combat Patrols for each faction built from models from the faction's range.
I am seriously tempted to get a Combat Patrol box and actually give playing a game a try - i have a few minis but they were mostly acquired to build and paint. half tempted by Eldar or something since i've already built and painted Tau and Primaris.
I already picked up Dark Angel and Craftworld. Working on painting Craftworld right now.
I'm already planning on picking up a custodes combat patrol, always wanted some but i dont really want a full army because that involves too much FW resin to be properly good. Also, my local gw is going to be doing a few combat patrol battle days so I can actually put the contents to good use right away. And bonus the contents make a good Killteam roster minus the bikes.
Just found your channel and im loving it ! Great videos and very informative for beginners like my self !
I'll be playing combat patrol for sure! Picked up a T'au box I'm trying to get built and painted ready for the drop of the new ed.
T'au weren't my first 40k army (they didn't exist when I started), but they are my first 40k love.
I've only ever played old (2018) Kill Team before the big rules changes. So looking forward to trying Combat Patrol out as a way of finally playing the 2 full armies I've painted so far.
Downside is one of them is Custodes so expecting to only being able to field 50% of that box (or heavily depowered full box)
Should be fun though.
The anchoring effect for GW prices is something else. Now that I've been doing just skirmish for the last few years, hearing $160/£95 described as reasonable for the 'taster' version of the game seems crazy to me.
I can't, in good conscience, encourage my students into playing 40K - not with the monetised updates and FOMO that's attached to it. The rules for 10th sound great, but my expectation is that GW will start shifting the goalposts a few months in, and the codexes will be overtly designed to make index players feel left out.
We're playing a custom multiverse skirmish game, designed to work with whatever box of minis they got for Christmas. £25-£35 and they're good to go, and they're having a lot of fun pitching Necrons against Seraphon against Star Wars Battle Droids :)
Same here. Those prices may be "reasonable" for GW, but are still way higher that what I would consider reasonable in general. And I'm afraid GW (Big Thieves in French) will render this format less interesting and more pricy in something like a year.
I don't trust them anymore... and the competition is getting more and more interesting and appealing to me.
Necron vs Seraphon vs Battle Droids sound amazing XD
Dam, your audio is super nice. Well done there
Already have the bits from four armies that I can pull the Combat Patrol contents from. Just pull those from my collection and play - no need for buying more Combat Patrol boxes. That said, I agree it is a good way to get new players into the hobby, glad GW is doing it.
I already had a box of Sisters, so this Combat Patrol news is convenient.
I do genuinely wonder if they'll release a box, or at least rules, for Knights in Combat Patrol, though. I love Knights, because for me they really scratch a "cool giant robot" itch I've had ever since Lego discontinued their Bionicle line. In fact, the Sisters were actually what I settled for on account of all the Armigers being sold out, though in fairness I love Sisters only slightly less.
While you were talking about how you got into the war-gaming hobby, I couldn't help but be reminded of how *I* myself ended up here, which is almost entirely thanks to Heroscape, rest its forsaken soul. 15 years ago, there was really no way to get in touch with anyone interested in playing, partly because my town didn't even have a hobby shop. So, I was essentially teaching and re-teaching my friends and family how to play, and kind of playing against myself via proxy, and none of us were really thinking too deeply about list building or strategy.
Now, though, my town does have a hobby shop, and that and the online growth of the community has made exploring the breadth and depth of the hobby and *actually talking to other hobbyists* a lot easier.
Anyway, I'm looking forward to 10th.
This is the best miniature channel on youtube, and you are my spirit animal. TY for the quality content.
It's about time GW did something akin to MTG's preconstructed decks! I tried getting into 40K 3 years ago with 9th ed. But now Combat Patrol as an entry point is much easier a sell for my friends!
It's just $160. I remember a moment in my childhood where a number like that would horrify me.
I'm super hyped for combat patrol! I finally preordered the World Eaters box this past Saturday. When the newer version of Kill Team came out I thought "oh good! something smaller scale for me to play." but the only similarities in the way you play are that you throw dice and measure things. I'm a very busy individual and the group of people I usually play with either travel for work, or own businesses so gaming time is limited. We have been playing 500pts. games just because we still find it fun, but having the games balanced will be awesome. Hopefully it doesn't feel bad playing the same list every time, but I think most people do that at higher pts. games anyways :P
At this early juncture I am excited about 10th and combat patrol. I'm definitely a skirmish player, but I also like to collect and already have almost a combat patrol of T'au models. I would need to pick up a broadside or whatever that larger mech is, but it sounds fun.
My only concern is how many faction specific rules will still be in it. As an Iron Hands player, the go to has always been to suggest people pick up the Dark Angels box to get the Redemptor. Maybe it'll just be like the starter boxes with only the universal strategems. Should be interesting, and definitely a step in the right direction.
I think the succus will be largely based on if it's mostly balanced. I'd love to bring 2 combat patrol armies, play a smaller game, and maybe finish two games in an evening. They'd be fun to collect and paint because once you finish the box the army is finished unless you want to expand it more.
I got back into the hobby recently and I really hope Combat Patrol is successful. I haven’t played a game at all yet except the starter set tutorial missions because when I look at hobby stores, everyone already has big 2000 point armies so I feel way too awkward getting involved with my crappy beginner guys. I had also heard Kill Team is smaller so looked at that thinking it was just small 40K but then saw the movement is shapes and colours or something?! so stopped looking further. I just wanna play baby 40K and progress from there, and this sounds perfect.
I agree, I was already working on a combat patrol box for adepta sororitas and have only managed a few starter games of 40k 9e due to the rules load bogging my brain down before switching to kill team. This looks very enticing to jump right in and play.
Just wanted to say I always enjoy the subtle editing you put into your videos (ie the tactical zooms).
Also, you got me wondering if there is an East Coast/West Coast beef between indie Portland bands
I appreciate you noticing - I’ve only been doing it for the last year or so. I feel it’s like holding or italicizing text when writing. Thanks for watching!
I am definately intrigued by this, but I am not sure which box i will go for first. I am fairly new in this hobby and started with the 40k starter sets building two armies at once, hoping i can lure a few friends into the game if I can supply everything for introduction games. Thus I now have two armys in the 1500+ range, but not the equivalent of either combat patrol. So picking one of those would be obvious, but I might also use this as an excuse to start a third army, eventhough i probably shouldn't 😅
Play what you think looks cool. Don’t worry about being “competitive.” Thanks for watching!
I almost exclusively buy Games Workshop miniatures for Five Leagues/Five Parsecs. I'm curious about how Combat Patrol will work though I haven't played since 6th. 8th I bought into but never got a game in (I was always working, never had time for recreational hobbies). 9th mainly because I was salty about how it launched.
I'm gonna dip my toes back in with 10th, I'm Starting with Craftworld Aeldari (Eldar) and I'll be picking up their Combat Patrol.
This seems like a great idea though, as you mentioned in the video, I am curious how they will balance the boxes. Assuming that they want to just keep it a single box vs. a single box to keep the cost of entry lower, factions like the Astra Militarum will need some powerful abilities to keep up with other boxes like the Adeptus Custodes.
Assuming GW doesn't feth it up, I think Combat Patrol is a win/win for them.
It finally provides a product for that person who wants to buy a box and start playing. They can start out, without listbuilding, or waiting for some squad to be in stock, or figuring out which boxes to buy. There's a box for you to start playing!
Then, that same box has stuff that you CAN grow with. You can keep at Combat Patrol, or roll that over into the core of a new army.
Or, if you like small scale, you can just pick up new boxes. You can play various armies, without needing 1500 points of each!
Plus, on top of all of that, you can still buy a Combat Patrol just because you want the models inside!
For those of us who want to do listbuilding and army composition, we don't lose ANYTHING. But it gives a LOT of other people a new option. I like it!
Always wanted to play Black Templars but never pulled the trigger. Haven’t played 40k since the early days of 8th edition, but picked up the Black Templar Combat Patrol and am looking forward to diving in.
Thanks for the great video as always Uncle Atom 🤘
I hope it works as a solid, standalone game and isn't entirely aimed at teaching you how to play the big thing. There's an option here to attract a sort of gamer who maybe has limited play space, or likes to paint lots of different things, the kind that would then just buy *every* Combat Patrol and have 12 factions balanced against each other rather than going deeper into any specific one.
I am with ya Adam, I like the sampling maneuver of a little of this and a little of that. Got burned with the going all in on an army. With life happening work, kids, family ect when I finally got finished with army over many months they changed the rules and codex. I gave up on trying to keep up and walked away. I like the smaller games (long live space station zero- brought by the snarling badgers and all they produce.) re putting my infinity models to use and loving seeing them back on table as game collapsed in my area. Look for was to seeing what you do with death watch.
I wanted to say. The units you buy and build you " can not " use down the road if you wait long enuff because the codex rules change. Example I have a Chaos Space Marine Helldrake and a Vindacator and Obliterators old school metal plague marines with mark of nurgle everything then I could not have them in my Death Guard list. Kinda upset but not really lore wise book wise kinda makes sence.
The problem I have with this idea is that it will create a two-tier system of players, and their interactions will either force the veteran player to buy models they don't want in order to interact at the same level, or the cp player to use an unbalanced force against the regular player.
The two systems will not mix well, and it will split the player base into two different groups.
Looking at the Imperial Guard box my quick and dirty estimate is that there is 7 or 8 points worth of models. 9 if you have to pay for the weapons.
I just picked up the T'au Boarding party set, and am definitely going to be filling in the gaps to get it to the CP equivalent. A friend is currently ogling the 'nid set, and I don't think he'd be nearly as interested in a full size game.
Bought the Genestealer Combat patrol box a while ago intending to run GSC in Necromunda/use the Rockgrinder for Ash Wastes...and now it looks like I'm going to try out 10th with my creepy little guys. For the Four Armed Emperor!
I’m looking forward to the new edition based on what they’ve said. I just really hope they stick with it and we don’t get endless releases that people just can’t keep up with or buffing things and then nerfing other things
I'm brand new to 40k, and figured I'd wait until 10th Edition Releases. Now that I understand the concept of these Boarding Patrol boxes, I'll definitely be going to pick one up. Most likely Tau, and my 14 yo son wants Chaos Marines (I think that's what they're called!). Just did my first game of Kill Team last night, with my 7 year old and it was a blast!
Yep, I'm all in on the Combat Patrol hype! I intend to make my Patrols from my existing models. I've got a Black Templar Army and a Custodes Army to draw from. Also, I've also got my Deathwatch Kill Team (from 2018) and the Indomitus Box Marines that I painted as Flesh Tearers to go with a Gabriel Seth that I had kit-bashed/converted as a 'just because'. Seth will have to watch from the sidelines, which he'll find difficult, but I only need a couple of models to have 4 Combat Patrols ready to play. Like you, I think it will be a great way in for new players - in the comments below lore videos, there's often people asking about where to start. It'll be nice to be able to give a simple answer for a change, one that doesn't sound daunting or off-putting.
I absolutely love combat patrol, it is probably the game size. I've played most with friends and family in Warhammer 40k. The one thing I hope they do is still allow list building for combat patrol sized games. I think that the approach they should take, is to make balanced lists for your combat patrol box and literally spell everything out to new players as a potential list games workshop certified. Almost like a starter deck You would buy for trading card games, it may not be the most tuned or the most powerful deck, but it's still functions and you can learn the game with it. In my opinion, that patrol should be the same thing, a good jumping off point for somebody to dip their toes in learn how to play the game with the faction they want and then leave it open for creative liberties and changes later down the road.
But maybe that's what they're planning for combat patrol to be the hand holding version of the game, and then you're 1,000 point lists and higher will be strictly for adding on to that.
Hadn't given combat patrol much thought but you video made sense and I think I'll be buying into it
You're right, a very good step in the right direction. I wish there was something in-between Combat Patrol and "40k proper" as well, because I'm concerned it would amazing for people who are just getting into the hobby, but then it'll always be the same army against the same 2-3 armies on a small board so there's a chance it will get boring quicker than one might expect.
1000 points maybe
If I play, Eldar, CSM, and Sisters are where I’ll start - with the Sisters already painted and ready to go.
I have MtG to blame for me finally getting on the Warhammer wagon. The cross-brand marketing that was Commander Warhammer 40,000 piqued my interest, and I had just gotten back into mini painting, sooo...
Weird thing I noticed after getting into the game: Inquisitor Greyfax is the face card of the Imperium commander deck, and not Marneus Calgar. I find Calgar both a better commander for my deck, and a more significant character from 40K. I was surprised to learn the Inquisition isn't a faction you can play, and that they don't even have that many models at all. I wonder why she was the face of the deck instead of the Ultramarine chapter master.
I’m looking forward to the Combat Patrol format. I would like to pick up the Orks, Blood Angels, Necrons, and Ad Mech. I’m only one model away from Black Templar and Tau. I’ve already got the models for the Dark Angels. 👍