About the Feat of Strength thing giving a catalyst charge instead of a Hero track tier piece item of your choice, I think you're either ignoring or maybe somehow didn't realize one thing. The catalyst charge doesn't care what track the item you put into it is. On the downside, you could just not have a Hero track item to catalyze, sure. For the extreme casuals who can't farm +7s with 640-ish gear we will probably have by the time the season starts from Delves, it's a nerf. But if you CAN farm M+ enough to get Hero track, it's a slight nerf, but not a tragedy altogether. But there's the thing you didn't mention: if you fill your Vault with +10s on that first week of the season, get 4 of them done, or even manage to knock off 1 of them, it's a buff. With the current system, you ain't getting a Mythic track tier piece from that Feat of Strength. With the new system, you don't need to luck out and get a Myth track tier piece in your vault straight up, you can take an item from whichever slot will give you progress towards full Mythic tier and just catalyze it with that spare charge from the Feat of Strength. And if you can do that, it will even be a runed crest gain overall from just cashing in the straight up Hero track item. If the choice is between getting a locked in Hero track tier piece or having a chance at a Mythic track one if I play well? Yeah, I'll take the later, thanks.
dinars being back makes no difference if you unlock it at week 17. most people would be quitting before them so whats the point of even having it in the game.
It is late...BUT its free MYTHIC RAID Item. If your BiS was from endboss there is good chance you LITTERALY couldnt even see a Mythic version yet, beacuse your guild either isnt getting CE or is getting it even later...or you killed endboss like once or twice, so its still low chance for the Item to drop for you
If you're quiting anyway, then... how do I put this... If you're quitting anyway, then none of it matters no matter what. This is not a feature aimed at people who subscribe at the beginning of a new major patch, play for a month or two until they get HC cleared and the loot piñata stops dropping easy upgrades, maybe picking up M+ portals on the way too, and check out. This is a feature aimed at the people who either try to play serious M+ but don't raid Mythic and have no way to get the BiS trinkets and stuff like that or people who are in mid Mythic to late CE raiding guilds where the bosses that drop the sought after items either get extended past and never farmed for any length of time, making a bunch of people miss out on that thing, leaving their character incomplete, or simply impossible to kill with the current team. Believe it or not, there are a bunch of people who play the majority of a tier and they'd like to have those items but, for varying reasons, they don't get them. That feels bad. This fixes it. Believe it or not, not every system that doesn't affect you and the way you play the game is a bad system that shouldn't exist.
The raid renown is seperate from the open world ones, it's not replacing them, it's adding new one tied to the raid, hopefully carrying on to future tiers
"Accualy" the omnitoken being changed into catalist is net L for: alts, and characters staring late, BUT for main its a net gain. I mean its a giant L if you use it on hero or lower track item...but if you have access to Myth track, and every main that matters does. That's net lose heroic week, but net gain for weeks 2-8 ... and then still net gain if you played properly from the start but if you were slacking/not playing at all its net lose
I don't quite understand how the Feat change is an L. A catalyst is much stronger than hero tier in this patch. It gives you the option of tier at a higher item level?
You can get the item for the catalyst FOS from delves it might be only champ track but it will still be tier, also unlikely they will give 6 crests from delves more like 2 or maybe 3, honestly the best move they could make would be to up the difficulty of lvl 8 and higher delves to bring them in line with M+ and mythic raids and award the same gear, they will end up doing this eventually so may as well get it over and done with now and avoid the unnecessary unsubs, just tune them so the majority of players will need to be geared to complete them so they are soft gated but the top players will be able to clear them with skill
Now I wonder if Blizz is going to listen to all the feedback they've gotten from the community, like: -we hate the catalyst charge -tanks are still gonna be dog crap -2850 rating for achieve is too high Etc, etc...
No. 2850 is EXACLY right, its so perfect I can't belive blizz came up with this number. Its LITTERALY mid way between 11s and 12s so EXACLY what was needed - a push to make people do higher aka fun keys
@@xsardes336 idk. Im currently at 3003 rating and I think its a bit high. I prefer it a bit lower so that everyone else gets a chance to get the achievement
@@solemvow6281 The thing is...there is no lower rating that makes sense for this. 2850 is 4x 11 4x 12, exact middle point of 12s. The entire reason for adding this achiv was to give people a reason to try 12s. Going any lower defeats the purpose, and you already have rewards at 10s - portals, so its even more pointless...I do kinda agree they could give funcionality of the achiv earlier, and rework it to "your keys never deplete below the max lvl you already compleated" (so if you for example did 14, and want to push 15. 15 will still deplete to 14 to stop you from doing extreamly degen shit...we need to be saved from ourselfe sometimes...but it would never go to 13 if you deplete 14 making the key bricked for the week, cuz lets be honest one homework key is often painful to do, 2 just to get single attempt at the key you accualy want is often a "screw that I'll come back next week" point)
@@daverobert5018yeah, for some people keys aren't hard considering they've done then plenty of times. I only invite alts. In +10 keys i don't really want a learning player, i want a player who is experienced cause im just there to fill vaults quick on alts
+ catalyst charge is dogshit
the charge change is a win for mythic raiders because the heroic raid piece was always going to get replaced, but sucks for casuals
About the Feat of Strength thing giving a catalyst charge instead of a Hero track tier piece item of your choice, I think you're either ignoring or maybe somehow didn't realize one thing. The catalyst charge doesn't care what track the item you put into it is. On the downside, you could just not have a Hero track item to catalyze, sure. For the extreme casuals who can't farm +7s with 640-ish gear we will probably have by the time the season starts from Delves, it's a nerf. But if you CAN farm M+ enough to get Hero track, it's a slight nerf, but not a tragedy altogether. But there's the thing you didn't mention: if you fill your Vault with +10s on that first week of the season, get 4 of them done, or even manage to knock off 1 of them, it's a buff. With the current system, you ain't getting a Mythic track tier piece from that Feat of Strength. With the new system, you don't need to luck out and get a Myth track tier piece in your vault straight up, you can take an item from whichever slot will give you progress towards full Mythic tier and just catalyze it with that spare charge from the Feat of Strength. And if you can do that, it will even be a runed crest gain overall from just cashing in the straight up Hero track item. If the choice is between getting a locked in Hero track tier piece or having a chance at a Mythic track one if I play well? Yeah, I'll take the later, thanks.
A very confusing beginning! What a rollercoster
dinars being back makes no difference if you unlock it at week 17. most people would be quitting before them so whats the point of even having it in the game.
It is late...BUT its free MYTHIC RAID Item. If your BiS was from endboss there is good chance you LITTERALY couldnt even see a Mythic version yet, beacuse your guild either isnt getting CE or is getting it even later...or you killed endboss like once or twice, so its still low chance for the Item to drop for you
Shut up lol
If you're quiting anyway, then... how do I put this... If you're quitting anyway, then none of it matters no matter what. This is not a feature aimed at people who subscribe at the beginning of a new major patch, play for a month or two until they get HC cleared and the loot piñata stops dropping easy upgrades, maybe picking up M+ portals on the way too, and check out. This is a feature aimed at the people who either try to play serious M+ but don't raid Mythic and have no way to get the BiS trinkets and stuff like that or people who are in mid Mythic to late CE raiding guilds where the bosses that drop the sought after items either get extended past and never farmed for any length of time, making a bunch of people miss out on that thing, leaving their character incomplete, or simply impossible to kill with the current team. Believe it or not, there are a bunch of people who play the majority of a tier and they'd like to have those items but, for varying reasons, they don't get them. That feels bad. This fixes it.
Believe it or not, not every system that doesn't affect you and the way you play the game is a bad system that shouldn't exist.
"coming back in from the cold" leaves the window open... hmmm ... ;)
The raid renown is seperate from the open world ones, it's not replacing them, it's adding new one tied to the raid, hopefully carrying on to future tiers
What about being able to convert crafted gear to the tier set? Still can't do that?
If we had the renown system this season, we wouldn't see our first dinar until new years eve lol.
Delves, good changes, now we need only a weekly myt chest for doing lvl11 delves 😊
Love the guilted crests from delves!
Where is Izen from frfr? im curious as hell
The background gameplay triggers me more than the feat of strenght nerf. So much flash heal spam, no rapture usage and like no shadow cov uptime.
YES!! been waiting for this for 20 years
inb4 it gives you 2 crests with a time gated feature
Champion track? Try blue gloves for 3 weeks.
w rizz beanie hat
edit: on god, fr fr
Izen rocking the homeless vibes
"Accualy" the omnitoken being changed into catalist is net L for: alts, and characters staring late, BUT for main its a net gain. I mean its a giant L if you use it on hero or lower track item...but if you have access to Myth track, and every main that matters does. That's net lose heroic week, but net gain for weeks 2-8 ... and then still net gain if you played properly from the start but if you were slacking/not playing at all its net lose
I don't quite understand how the Feat change is an L. A catalyst is much stronger than hero tier in this patch. It gives you the option of tier at a higher item level?
You can get the item for the catalyst FOS from delves it might be only champ track but it will still be tier, also unlikely they will give 6 crests from delves more like 2 or maybe 3, honestly the best move they could make would be to up the difficulty of lvl 8 and higher delves to bring them in line with M+ and mythic raids and award the same gear, they will end up doing this eventually so may as well get it over and done with now and avoid the unnecessary unsubs, just tune them so the majority of players will need to be geared to complete them so they are soft gated but the top players will be able to clear them with skill
Now I wonder if Blizz is going to listen to all the feedback they've gotten from the community, like:
-we hate the catalyst charge
-tanks are still gonna be dog crap
-2850 rating for achieve is too high
Etc, etc...
2850 is free
No. 2850 is EXACLY right, its so perfect I can't belive blizz came up with this number. Its LITTERALY mid way between 11s and 12s so EXACLY what was needed - a push to make people do higher aka fun keys
@@xsardes336 idk. Im currently at 3003 rating and I think its a bit high. I prefer it a bit lower so that everyone else gets a chance to get the achievement
Dungeons will be easier, 12s are not going to be like 12s now.
@@solemvow6281 The thing is...there is no lower rating that makes sense for this. 2850 is 4x 11 4x 12, exact middle point of 12s. The entire reason for adding this achiv was to give people a reason to try 12s. Going any lower defeats the purpose, and you already have rewards at 10s - portals, so its even more pointless...I do kinda agree they could give funcionality of the achiv earlier, and rework it to "your keys never deplete below the max lvl you already compleated" (so if you for example did 14, and want to push 15. 15 will still deplete to 14 to stop you from doing extreamly degen shit...we need to be saved from ourselfe sometimes...but it would never go to 13 if you deplete 14 making the key bricked for the week, cuz lets be honest one homework key is often painful to do, 2 just to get single attempt at the key you accualy want is often a "screw that I'll come back next week" point)
Delves should give champion gear.. fed up of delve geared players bricking my keys
Don't invite them? You really think every key you brick is someone else's fault?
@@daverobert5018most of times it is
@@Robin...222 sure bud
@@daverobert5018yeah, for some people keys aren't hard considering they've done then plenty of times. I only invite alts. In +10 keys i don't really want a learning player, i want a player who is experienced cause im just there to fill vaults quick on alts
Nah. This is the best change ever. Now I don’t have to deal with arrogant elitist dungeon players that brick their own dungeons or waste my time.
The catalyst piece change is not a loss, you can catalyst myth track instead of having heroic. So it is a huge win.
I just wish they’d change the catalyst to be weekly instead of this
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