THE ZWO 585MC IS THE CAMERA TO BUY RIGHT NOW!!!
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Buyed immediately after your video.
I’ve used non-pro version for DSO with great results.
Thank you for your video 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Great to hear!
I’ve just purchased this camera after watching your video. Thank you so much for the comparison.🙏🏼
great to hear
This is the best sensor to pair with an IDAS GNB as well. The sensor plus filter combined is narrow-band in the lower wavelengths but allows a lot of Near-IR to pass. This allows more galaxy signal to come through in bands not as affected by light pollution. Trade-off is that near-IR does affect star quality, so if you image with this unfiltered, the star processing might be more painful. Personally, I bought this camera for the smaller pixel sizes/sensor size to capture more detail during galaxy season.
Good to know! It’s such a great little camera!!
I've been using this sensor on the Player One Uranus-C for about a year now. It is so impressive that I haven't bothered to use any other camera in that time. Even without cooling on hot nights it performs beautifully. I figured out it performs best around gain 250 before Player One and ZWO announced the changes. It is a good trade between dynamic range, noise and light amplification. Phenomenal camera.
awesome
Hi Chad,
Thanks for the review of the 585. I just bought one but my reason was to use it for planetary imaging. This 585 is great for that. I never considered using it for DSO since it is uncooled. But your comparison of the Crescent nebula with the 183 gets me to wonder and perhaps try the 585 on other than the planets. Good report.
- Patrick -
Thanks Patrick. I am trying to get more comparisons going. Smoke and transparency are getting in the way :( I was pretty shocked as well in a good way :)
This video convinced me to buy the 585. Thanks
Awesome. It’s a great little camera.
Bought it like 2 hours before I found your video! Thanks for the review, well done man!
Thanks Jeff! It really worked out nice. That was last night. Off with the old and on with this one. Done and super easy! Enjoy
I got one as my first dedicated camera and love it!
a great first choice!!!
I'm using the Player One Uranus-C (cooled version) paired with the Carbon Star 6" newt and its a great match!
Yes that would be. I am thinking of a similar setup for the future
Thanks for the comparison! I’ve had the 585 in my cart for a while now debating whether or not to pull the trigger. This helps. I currently have a 2600mm on my esprit 100, looking for something to do EAA with
No problem. I used to only do eaa for years and over the past year have switched gears. It’s a perfect eaa cam for sure. And imaging as you can see. I wasn’t super happy with any of the comparisons or examples out there so I took a gamble and glad I did. It’s a keeper for me.
@@easyastroimages5818 just ordered! I’m sending you the bill 😝
Hi, you're my man. I have this cam and use it for deep-sky and it really makes a good job. I was thinking about a cooled one. But after this video I think the 585 will do its job.Thanks
Glad I could help
I just ordered one for myself along with an ASI air plus to try a bit of EEVA.
you wont be disappointed..very easy to use
I also just bought the 585 but for planetary
i hope we'll get a mono and cooled version of this one
would be nice
Would love to see more videos of this camera on some dsos!
I have sold it. I wanted to experiment with it. The sensor is great but just way to small for my refactors.
@@easyastroimages5818 ah man, I've got one right now bit got a diy platform on my dob that isn't too accurate, waiting on my new cge mount to show up and am excited to get going with this camera!
The 585 is in stock at ZWO. I buy directly from them
These zwo cameras just are getting better all the time.thanks to your video I will be buying the 585. A friend told me about why but I think tzwo.is better. Is this a big sensor would it work good in my zenith star 81 scope by William optics? Thanks chad
Bigger is usually better no matter the scope. It’s just the way these sensors work :(
@easyastroimages5818 I would be interested in this camera but I have doubts about the telescope. Would it go better with an evostar 72 ed or a TS-optics Photoline 60 apo?
Thanks :)
youre going to have a smaller field of view due to the sensor size of the camera but thats ok. i used an 81mm in this video so that can give you some kind of idea
U had full moon while take these impressive!!
I have Zwo 6200+Kepler 4040 with filter wheel
thanks
Thanks for your review! Just bought a C8 (Celestron NexStar 8SE 2032mm f/10) for visual observing but also would like to start with EAA and some imaging. Planned to buy a camera around $200 (like Celestron NexImage 5 or some SvBony), but in astronomy we always end being pushed up 😀 But the idea of being able to do planetary AND some basic DSO is tempting! (no Hubble like photos pretension) So budget was raised to $300 for a 678MC, but it seems that the 585MC ($400) will provide much more flexibility for DSO, right? I suppose that due larger sensor than the 678MC I'll need a Barlow for planets, and I can use the 0,63x focal reducer with the 585MC for DSO, right? Will it work? Thanks and regards! (no guiding in this stage)
This sensor will work well for eaa. The larger you can get will help without guiding and for plate solving. I would wait on a Barlow for now and get used to it all before adding the complexity of changing back focus and adding adapters to make it fit. Instead add a f6.3 reducer to the mix for the c8.
@@easyastroimages5818 Thank you! Yes, the focal reducer seems essential for a f/10. I'm still confused about that "thumb rule" that the focal length should be "5x" the pixel size of the camera, so for f/10 the ASI678MC would fit better (2um), but for ASI585MC it would require about f/15 (2.9um) requiring a 1.5x Barlow. I still have to learn about the implications of not matching this to be sure that the 585 will fit well (using the FR it would be even more distant).
Hi, thanks for this video! For a 10" GOTO dob F/4.7 1200mm, would you recommend the 585MC or the 294MC (uncooled) for general all purpose astro of planets and deep sky using EAA maybe also? thank you
for a budget deal the 585 is hard to beat but for that big wide dob you would def want a larger sensor size with more smaller pixels. the 294 would be a good start..the 2600 would be the mack daddy. the 183 is really a great value as well and ive had a lot of success with it and it used to be the eaa king due to its pefect sensor size and high high megapixel
Excellent video. I'm a newbie and was wondering if this camera would work with my Sky-watcher Evostar 100 ED f/9 scope. I'm concerned about the f/9 aperature. I would like to switch from my Nikon D5000 to a ZWO camera but can't afford $1000 - $2000 for a new camera. Thanks
It will work. But as you know the slow focal ratios and small chip size would make things a little difficult.
Thanks for the review. i was intrigued by this 585 camera and think it would work great for me. Will this camera match up well with my Astro Tech AT60ED? Thanks again.
It will be a smaller fov then a larger sized sensor but you will still enjoy it. This was taken with an 81mm so you should be able to see the difference
Still torn between the 183MC Pro and the new cooled 585MC Pro… want to use it on my 80APO with 450mm Focal length for galaxies, when I would have to crop to far for the pixel size with my 2600MC Pro. If prize would be the same: which cam would you choose?! Do I need much more integration time with the 183 than with the 585? Clear skies are very rare here…
The 183 is just the winner for me due to the larger sensor size. Really getting small with a 585. 2600mc is my preferred choice. Don’t get hung up on image scale. Its irrelevant when you can scale up and down and drizzle in PI
Hello, I am considering purchasing either the ZWO ASI 585 MC or the ZWO ASI 178 MC for my SkyWatcher 10-inch Dobsonian telescope with manual tracking. Which one would you recommend please?
585mc for sure
Great video
My question can dlsr do a sharper job than this ?
maybe..but not as easy
I'm confused an uncool 183 is $399 not $800. Compared to the 585's $399. You are basically trading sensor size for less amp glow in the 585. I think the 183c is still the better deal, because like you said your still taking darks to remove hot pixels. I wish you would of captured the more common EAA images in the 8-60 second range
This was an imaging comparison. Not an eaa one. So I was actually shaking the opposite. $400 vs the cooled $800 camera for imaging purposes. If that makes sense
Thanks very much for your splendid video. I purchased a 585MC a couple of weeks ago and have used it a couple of times and love it. You mentioned setting the camera at a gain of 252. In your view, is that the sweet spot for sensor light gathering power versus noise? Sorry I am used to using a DSLR and more used to ISO settings (I normally set my DSLR around ISO800 or 1600). I hope you can advise. Cheers Dougie (from Scotland).
252 is the lowest readnoise according to the website
yes for now.. 252..I think zwo is trying to work out some software for this sensor because they have released 2 sdk updates in the past few weeks. both have changed the default offset. seems like they might be trying to improve the camera to the player one HGC spec of 180
Great upload!! Hey for a meade 130mm apo Refractor would the asi183 be any good and if not what would you recommend, looking to do Planetary and deep sky. Thanks Greetings from New York City
Yes, absolutely..i think there are better but more expensive choices but the 183 is a bargain to learn with for a long time
Got my first scope and want to capture moon and planets...is this a good first camera for me? Scope is Skymax 127 Mak Cass. I know the 127 isn't enough for planets but it's fun trying and I'm a noob...this stuff is fascinating!
should be fine with little investment. some learning curve and challenges to over come if yourre patient
I am still using the 183 with my GT-71. But cant nail down gain and offset, What was you using?
just the stock from the zwo sdk in nina. i think its 120 and offset 50. i sold the 183 so i cant be exact but the answer is on cloudynights i think..google it and youll see the same numbers come up over and over. thats what i did
Thanks fr another great videoo. Can you use it with HyperStar?
Yes you can! just takes a little more adapting
How about the 585 with the skywatcher quattro 130pds for dso's? Good combo? Thanks dude!
Would be fine but like I tell everyone it’s a small chip and with longer focal lengths it turns that combo into a purpose built pair.
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Would you suggest something else for my 650mm? Im hearing the 533mc is better all around.
great vid thx! really well explained. This might be my first camera. Cute kitty too ha
Thank you. I’ll have more examples coming. It’s a great cheap option for my second camera.
So, what is special in your new camera? It is definitely not good as 183. If you don’t like amp flow, just get 553, better than both.
It’s a small sensor but very good for price and now they have a cooled version. Some people just can’t drop a grand on a camera.
@@easyastroimages5818 Buy used one. You could get 553 color for $500-600 and 553 mono for $700-800.
A lot of people prefers to spend on optics that on electronics which are short lifespan. Anyway, really intresting camera to start astrophoto! thx for the review.
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How long were your subs? Interesting camera!
its all in the video
anyone know if I should get the 533mc pro or the 585mc pro looking to get a askar 71f flat field or the redcat 51 wifd if anyone has some other suggestions let me know
its a very small sensor for the redcat but if its what you can afford then thats ok. the pro will give you cooling so you can match darks times with light frame times. its also worth it for the extra usb ports. they can come in handy
@@easyastroimages5818 ment to say 533mc or the 585mc pro I know it's a square sensor but I don't mind it for the 533mc pro
I was looking for something like this. I was between getting the 585 or 533. But i looks like investing 500 GBP more will not make much of a difference.
Cooling is nice. The larger sensor is nice. But the proof is right here. The 533 matches up well though with a longer focal length.
@@easyastroimages5818 tomorrow I will receive the 585. I have a Celestron C6 and Altair Starwave 110ED
@@easyastroimages5818 as for the cooling I will do a TEC diy cooling. I already have the TEC module and just need a radiator and a fan. And will 3D print the support to fix it to the camera
What focal length were you imaging at? Given the fact that the pixel size is 2.9um, this camera would likely perform better for sub 700mm focal lengths.
yep..385..all the microns :)
I'm a newbie and I have the Sky-Watcher Evostar 100 ED 900mm f/9 scope. I'm looking to upgrade from my Nikon D5000 and wondering if this would be a good alternative? Thanks
@@RetiredFE I am no expert, I am pretty new to all of this myself. Check the 'ccd suitability calculator' tool online. My understanding is that at your focal length you would ideally have a sensor size 3.7um or more. Some people seem to favour over-sampling, while other favour under-sampling (i.e., drizzling in post). When I was using my Uranus-C at 1000mm focal length I was generally using it in bin 2, now I use it at 750mm without binning. No doubt slightly over-sampling, but it achieves pretty good results.
@@RetiredFE The Uranus-C will have a significantly smaller field of view than your Nikon, and the pixel size of the Nikon is more suited to your 900mm focal length.
Can this camera output 70@1920x1080 with 2x2 binning?
Which is better uranus c or zwo585
The Uranus c has a lower read noise at a lower gain. But cannot be used with asi air. That’s an issue for many
Do you think the 585 would be a good match with the red cat 51? Thanks for sharing!
No it wouldn’t. The Redcat really wants a large sensor. If you’re struggling with budget go at least to a 183 sensor. If you can swing it then the 2600 mc is the way. I’ve taken my best images yet with this combo.
@@easyastroimages5818 Thanks for your honesty! 👍
@@Rainy78 the hobby is expensive enough. I’ve tried a lot over the years and sold stuff at a loss. Now i focus on what’s easy for me is easy for anyone. !!
@@easyastroimages5818 I agree 100% and I dont want to be making bad decisions. I just want a good setup to start off with. Its intimidating, hard to grasp and a lot to take in all at once. I guess itll have to be one piece at a time kind of thing. I think a Sky Watcher GTI and Red Cat 51 will be a good start. Ill be using my mirrorless and dlsr until I can get the 2600.
Is the 585 a good match with a rokinon 135 f2??
Have you built your Finemolds Falcon❓
Lol. No. :( I want the perfect grade man!! Bad !!
The Bandai the wrong scale, I have a modified and repainted Master Replicas Falcon… Anyway, love your Astro stuff, thanks for doing it here 👍🏻
What u think of the ZWO asi224mc bro ?
i had one..nice little cam..super small sensor. hard to image with :(
Chad how does the ZWO ASI585mc compare with the ASI482mc?
cant speak on the 482 but it has some very large pixels. would work good with a longer focal length at first glance over the specs
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Thank you Chad. I got the ASI482mc because it was in my budget and after a little research found out the larger pixels will work better with my Celestron C8. I think it's pretty comparable to the ASI585mc. Going to try it on DSOs when I get a little more practice time in. Thank you for the great review.
What capture software did you use on this DSO?
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Sold! jajajajjaja, nothing more to say.
Lol. Nice
Have you made an oil leakage video yet ?
Luckily not yet :) I’ve seen a lot of trusted sources on here though.
I'm confused. At the beginning of the video, you said you uncrewed 1 camera and screwed the next one on one after the other. Then later you say it was 2 different nights.
it was 2 different nights but the cameras have the same back focus requirements and use the same adpaters..so i took one off and put the otehr on..easy
Would love to have the 585mc but can’t find any UK seller with stock. FLO & Rother Valley Optics haven’t had stock for months.
I have a feeling they might be working on a cooled version and maybe saving the sensor inventory?? we can hope
I believe they are both back in stock now. I just purchased off FLO but its worth bearing in mind that both sites have now bumped up the price to £428 Did a stock check with Rother yesterday and they said it would be a matter of days at the latest.
Already out of stock again on FLO 😳Looks like people really want to get their hands on this product.
тебя слепит солнце? почему шапку не одел? холодно же!
thanks
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