HAS 2023 BEEN A YEAR OF DOKKAN FUMBLES? (DBZ: Dokkan Battle)

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  • Опубліковано 16 жов 2023
  • Video Title: HAS 2023 BEEN A YEAR OF DOKKAN FUMBLES? (DBZ: Dokkan Battle)
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  • @kenmisterio
    @kenmisterio 9 місяців тому +270

    What's scary is that anniversary is close and Dokkan won't survive another power creep if almost all the units of 2023 are not good enough, another power creep means that units we now classify as good won't be good enough for the new difficult event.

    • @anstorner
      @anstorner 9 місяців тому +41

      I dont think we are getting another powercreep until 10 year anni since the 2 last ones happened in the start of 2022 and this one now, so 1.5 years separated, although small jumps would still be devastating

    • @wikser7943
      @wikser7943 9 місяців тому +26

      @@anstorner I just hope they start pushing some difficult events that have super class enemies. Would make most extreme class units more useful, since they often get passive boost based on super class enemies, and it wouldn't hurt super class units because they are good either way.

    • @ssgssg8874
      @ssgssg8874 9 місяців тому +3

      The first major power creep was actually the 6th anni because that god event took literally everyone out all you could use were the 6th anni teams to complete them.

    • @JoseC687
      @JoseC687 9 місяців тому +4

      ​@@ssgssg8874I miss the LGE meta, good times.

    • @David-vr5gi
      @David-vr5gi 9 місяців тому

      They have to re edz them simple failed on df goku black yes when built up monster but needs early defence int goku black lr not enough defence but power is there again needs gain defence or have damage reduction they did fail load should been better

  • @saltfarmer4008
    @saltfarmer4008 9 місяців тому +41

    Omatsu's Zero Logic Plan
    Remember, he's got this planned until the tenth year anniversary 😂

  • @bebopknux5857
    @bebopknux5857 9 місяців тому +75

    The fact we have to PRAY that, that 20+ bad units doesn't become 30 is astonishing. I do hate this year when in the 120% meta only broly was a fumble of a leader.

  • @koyanagi___
    @koyanagi___ 9 місяців тому +26

    datruth was honestly more generous than i expected, which means 2023 kinda was a year of fumbles imo.

  • @PhilUP
    @PhilUP 9 місяців тому +589

    2023 Dokkan was the year of bad kits but good content. It's just not fun when a character is bad or doesn't get the help they need for their teams.

    • @kidvillain188
      @kidvillain188 9 місяців тому +19

      Maybe this is the new meta. Beat these difficult fights with mid units and the ones that have potential we won't give them help

    • @SabzBerries
      @SabzBerries 9 місяців тому +16

      It's as if the TOP Dokkanfest Droids and LR Ribrianne were meant to release in October of 2022, they both feel really weak, just look at Dokkanfest Gammas and Pathku, night and day difference.

    • @shomi8791
      @shomi8791 9 місяців тому +18

      What good content?

    • @thedead073
      @thedead073 9 місяців тому +1

      ​@@SabzBerriesThe Gammas aren't better than Ribrianne TF?

    • @nellyb4316
      @nellyb4316 9 місяців тому +11

      @@thedead073they are gamma 1 is op

  • @Sugarist0
    @Sugarist0 9 місяців тому +332

    For every single red zone stage the best characters basically don’t change. Back then they release units that have different purposes. E.g. agl gohan sucked for sbr but was one of the best for the Lge, while cell wasn’t that great for Lge but was super good in sbr. The weird/niche designs of some of the recent units won’t be as big of a problem if they didn’t copy paste the same stages for the past 2 years

    • @SilverRiMiX
      @SilverRiMiX 9 місяців тому +45

      Exactly. Content variation is vital.

    • @sonksyrus1803
      @sonksyrus1803 9 місяців тому

      🔥

    • @Chilidogs-ku9ql
      @Chilidogs-ku9ql 9 місяців тому +30

      Honestly, all they have to do is give out extra stones and tropheys for completing every SBR/ESBR stage without items and/or support memories, and automatically, niche designs and variations in characters automatically become basically a non-factor since there'd be incentive to not use items in those events

    • @DatBoizay98
      @DatBoizay98 9 місяців тому

      ​@@Chilidogs-ku9qlexactly

    • @andrewcaldwell4343
      @andrewcaldwell4343 9 місяців тому

      I meaaaaan there’s only so much the can really do to the stages bruh. It’s a mobile game lol. What you want the bosses to crit that’s about as crazy as its going to get from this point. And they can consistently put the same stuff out because they still have so many new incoming players that can’t keep up with it to begin with.

  • @MiniDiamand
    @MiniDiamand 9 місяців тому +105

    I think you should do a list for 2022 and optionally 2021 (which will be a little more difficult to judge because RZ didn‘t exist back then) just so we can get a grasp of how bad the releases have been this year compared to the years prior. It would be interesting to see the numbers go from like 15% bad units in 2022 to 60% in 2023.

    • @kingabe2519
      @kingabe2519 9 місяців тому +1

      I was just about to comment this

    • @zy3177
      @zy3177 9 місяців тому +6

      I feel like we can see how true this is based on his tierlists. Most of the units are 2022 units, and sometimes 2021 units that just overall are better than this year's showing

    • @LeMuDX
      @LeMuDX 9 місяців тому +1

      I gotchu immediately, 2022 units had some flops like the RoF blues and the 1 in 100million shithead raditz, but then we got units like int Majin vegeta and vegeta and trunks, Ginyu, path to power kid goku, the gammas plus orange and beast

    • @beckyg5952
      @beckyg5952 9 місяців тому

      i checked 2022 and counted 58 bad, tho i didn't remember a bunch of f2p units. Still a lot better than 2023 when u consider we're not done yet and we havent been through heroes yet lol

    • @luciferpanamena8908
      @luciferpanamena8908 9 місяців тому

      @@beckyg5952 If they fumble a future Goku black super saiyan rosé full power, im gonna off myself

  • @IVIulticam
    @IVIulticam 9 місяців тому +104

    Dokkan needs to just hire people that actually play the game and can test units for them before they release them. It’s so crazy how far they are from how the game is played. They think super effective is as good as guard, Atk stacking as good as def stacking, I don’t even think that some of their buffs are multiplicative and it’s hilarious.

    • @hankagura5355
      @hankagura5355 9 місяців тому +13

      Honestly they need to go all out for every single SUMMONABLE unit, because at the end of the day dokkan is pve game. This isn’t legends were a fun extremely powerful unit can “ruin” a meta when we aren’t fighting people…

    • @yuukii3136
      @yuukii3136 9 місяців тому +2

      @@hankagura5355 The only problem with that is the legal issue in gacha games, stating that no unit can a necessary unit that’s also summon able to be used. Although DOKKAN is an PVE game the rules still apply. Also an example is SSJ2 AGL GOHAN FROM WWDC. They had to make a f2p #16 to get away with his transformation

    • @Kenji_195
      @Kenji_195 9 місяців тому +12

      "needs to just hire people that actually play the game and can test units for them before they release them"
      I mean, are we sure they're not fumbling on purpose?, are bad releases being bad releases* on purpose or by "accident"?, is it intentional or not?

    • @Jeffjefferson3211
      @Jeffjefferson3211 9 місяців тому +16

      @@Kenji_195yeah it’s on purpose for sure, these types of games intentionally release bad units to add to the pool of available units so people have to summon more to get actual good units

    • @deeepdish
      @deeepdish 9 місяців тому

      Idk if english is ur first language, but the first sentence was really hard to read lol@@yuukii3136

  • @gurnivajsingh8297
    @gurnivajsingh8297 9 місяців тому +86

    Ngl, every premium unit (DFE, LR) outside of major celebrations has been a fumble. Also, this has been a very hard year for villains, because of L releases like Carnival Omega, Super Buu, Super 17. 2023 has had it's peaks, but man, there is just so much lost potential in terms of kits and animations. If i had to say what was the worst thing about year, it has to be the bad release times, 3 base Goku in 4 months?!! What were they on?!!

    • @trickyvic6501
      @trickyvic6501 9 місяців тому +10

      Idk what they were on. Its almost like they designed them and purposely put flaws in their kits without thinking about the recent difficult events.

    • @mathieul4303
      @mathieul4303 9 місяців тому +10

      Super Buu is very good, don't put him here

    • @FusedGogeta
      @FusedGogeta 9 місяців тому +1

      Super Buu is literally a war machine the hell you smoking?

    • @romain8996
      @romain8996 9 місяців тому +10

      Even inside of major celebrations you can see the cracks in certain kits, like with AGL Goku and Vegeta and how they basically get one shoted by a normal the nano second their intro leaves.

    • @gurnivajsingh8297
      @gurnivajsingh8297 9 місяців тому +2

      To the second and third person who replied, please read my comment again. I didn't say Super Buu was "bad", i pointed out that he was a "bad release", which I still stand by. He released in a celebration which had nothing to do with him, didn't get any strong characters to work well with him and even after half a year, still doesn't have a viable 200%.
      Again, yes I agree, he isn't "bad", he is rather one of the stronger villain units we have gotten this year (though I would still not call him good, because he has such wonky design choices, like 70% chance to guard, honestly he should have been much better, just like over half the units released this year), but no way is he a good release. I like his animations, but he is the embodiment of "wrong time, wrong place".

  • @kidvillain188
    @kidvillain188 9 місяців тому +34

    This would be a good concept for like a year end review for units. How many were good and how many were bad for this year?

  • @deshon845
    @deshon845 9 місяців тому +37

    i think it’s a combination of new events being extremely hard for seemingly no reason and new units not being good enough. both are big issues that the game has right now

    • @silis4645
      @silis4645 9 місяців тому +3

      Event difficulty is not a issue people literally always asked for more hard events. So wym "hard for no reason" its literally what people been asking for. The only real problem is the units aren't good enough and thats not because the evemts are too hard because they KNOW how to make a unit good, future gohan,zamasu, trunks, like they know what it takes and whats good they just choose not to do it

    • @deshon845
      @deshon845 9 місяців тому

      @@silis4645 just because it isn’t an issue to you doesn’t mean it isn’t to other people. zamasu is overtuned. especially because they DON’T make units good enough. like i said, it’s a combination of both.

    • @silis4645
      @silis4645 9 місяців тому

      @deshon845 bro what just because it isnt a issue for me? My guy the events are literally meant for players like me (players whove been playing over a year and meticulously pulled for good units to build good teams) not players that just picked up the game and summoned for lr super buu💀 like red zones are meant for the best of the best players there is literally no such thing as a event being "too hard" only the units they are releasing not being good enough. I just started jp dokkan during the 8th year anny and i have a team that beat cmz. Yes hes overturned hes suppose to be its not a event you beat with your current team its a brand new most difficult content. People said the same thing when broly came out and 6 months later you say the same thing you will be called a fcking tard because it makes no sense. Its not a combination of both they HAVE to forever oush the bosses difficulty or else they fail as a gacha game that isnt the problem the sole problem is the dozens of units they released this year are just bad even by previous red zone standards. Because had super 17 been good, got a team, had kale been good had a team, had super buu had a 200% and a team, they'd be competing against the future redzone why? But they dont why? Not because the event is too hard but because they just suck or got no help. Thats the only issue here

    • @silis4645
      @silis4645 9 місяців тому

      @deshon845 TLDR: events have always been powercrept this much ALWAYS. But we NEVER had periods of unit fumbles this badly like ever and thats why the events feel the way they do now

  • @NotKages
    @NotKages 9 місяців тому +10

    Phys Vegito has unironically been super helpful In Zamasu red zone for me, bro dont do dmg but at least he can be a wall for phase 1

  • @Josema234
    @Josema234 9 місяців тому +21

    The real problem is that this year units are overall good in their best team but the restrictions they have make them useless because those teams are ass. I don’t know what Dokkan is thinking but this highly restrictive conditions make the game really boring.

    • @maazshaikh5996
      @maazshaikh5996 9 місяців тому +4

      Yeah, they stopped spamming new categories every fortnight (remember 2020-21?) but then aren't spreading out the help to existing ones lmao

  • @geoffrey2246
    @geoffrey2246 9 місяців тому +7

    2023 downfall in designs is worse then the fall of the Roman empire 😭

  • @lilivory99
    @lilivory99 9 місяців тому +55

    This may be a hot take but I think the category meta is done there’s wayyy to many categories and it’s gotten to the point that 90% of these categories are literally useless and unusable categories that get absolutely no recognition for Years not to mention how much they limit character kits to 1 or 2 specific categories making them useless on almost all the teams they’re apart of

    • @Tropical_j_
      @Tropical_j_ 9 місяців тому +1

      More than open to where they’d go next for leaderskills

    • @jaipadv8282
      @jaipadv8282 9 місяців тому +5

      ​@@Tropical_j_I mean we saw it with Zamasu and vegito, the whole 150 to class type
      They might bring about a time of pseudo category and type leaderskills to make teams actually have more available units
      Something like 170% to Super Saiyans and Movie heroes with 160% to super Agl units for example

    • @RFJ0KER
      @RFJ0KER 9 місяців тому +1

      I think it was 2019 when every new release brought a new leader skill idk what they were thunk

    • @jaipadv8282
      @jaipadv8282 9 місяців тому

      @@RFJ0KER it was def 2021 that added all the useless categories like "heavenly events" and "special pose"

  • @239quaz4
    @239quaz4 9 місяців тому +5

    1:08 truth did NOT want to hear it 😂

  • @JmisterYT
    @JmisterYT 9 місяців тому +25

    I truly believe every dokkan fest should get the ginyu treatment because what they did to super trunks, turles, and Kale is unacceptable smh

    • @josephfrancis3250
      @josephfrancis3250 9 місяців тому

      Ginyu's a terrible example, he's literally only viable on one team, which was also sculpted to make him better than he is on his own.

    • @1_Flare
      @1_Flare 9 місяців тому +2

      @@josephfrancis3250 he was good on every team for the category he was on that wasnt corroded body and mind wym

    • @josephfrancis3250
      @josephfrancis3250 9 місяців тому +1

      @@1_Flare Ginyu without the support from his tailor made team is nowhere near the same performance wise lol

    • @CondoneMoose
      @CondoneMoose 9 місяців тому +1

      @@josephfrancis3250that’s why he got a TEAM. You’re saying that his team was tailored and guess what, that team was one of the best teams in the game for several months. If these newer dokkanfests got the same treatment they wouldn’t be bad releases now would they?

    • @1_Flare
      @1_Flare 9 місяців тому

      @@josephfrancis3250 i guess but he only needs reccome and guldo to be at his best unless you mean more offense

  • @LeMuDX
    @LeMuDX 9 місяців тому +14

    Just from reading the title, the answer is yes, difficult content just got a bump in difficulty and it’s not small either, ~80-90% of units that did well in OG red zone are borderline unusable and that’s not including units like teq god goku since he was a weird case, I would have originally said that the “new” difficulty is fine but now I’m backtracking since they’ve upped the difficulty but they’re proceeding to release units that aren’t even as good as int Majin vegeta, and you can forget about phy god goku they haven’t dropped a unit outside of larger celebrations that are even close to him except for maybe kale but she’s been so alone so now she’s more or less aged

  • @andreiapopei9135
    @andreiapopei9135 9 місяців тому +3

    Happy to see discussions about this topic😮

  • @t_dawg31
    @t_dawg31 9 місяців тому +1

    The no hesitation on the blue fusions makes me laugh every time lol

  • @dan4027
    @dan4027 9 місяців тому +4

    You should start doing this at the end of the year this was fun😭

  • @danielaiken2048
    @danielaiken2048 9 місяців тому +2

    I just came here to say how much I absolutely love Truths content; He's always incredibly funny, entertaining and even informative.

  • @regitriotrio5656
    @regitriotrio5656 9 місяців тому +23

    Honestly way to many fumbles have occurred this year compared to others. Bad ezas, bad new units, tougher content which on its own is good but it's not the best due to how new units can't even compete well in these events sometimes.

  • @C0LDC3LL
    @C0LDC3LL 9 місяців тому

    This was a good idea for a video, it really put the Ws and Ls in perspective. I hope you do another one of these when 2023 ends with the additional Ls they end up adding in November and December.

  • @jabari7158
    @jabari7158 9 місяців тому +30

    Defiantly the most inconsistent year of Dokkan we’ve had, in previous years we’ve had misses but not consecutive bombs and misses like we’ve been having this year

  • @manuelliberatore9598
    @manuelliberatore9598 9 місяців тому +26

    I'd say yes, I mean, it's weird, I could understand if they were stingy with stones or content but who would have thought the current main issue with the game could ever be units' strength? How does releasing mid to fodder units even benefit them? Don't they want to make more money? Do we have to start expecting meh releases outside big celebrations from now on? We still have 2 more "filler" dfes and a carnival lr coming out before new years, they better deliver lol

    • @Jeffjefferson3211
      @Jeffjefferson3211 9 місяців тому +4

      It benefits them by diluting the summoning pool so people have to do more summons to get good units

    • @romain8996
      @romain8996 9 місяців тому +5

      They were kinda stingy with stones, I mean look at the stone event from wwc, this year during part 1, 3 stones per day which amounts to basically 21.
      Then sometime in part 2 it jumps to 4 making it 28 per week.
      And then during part 3 when the discount were over they make it 5 which finally amounts to 35.
      That is if you didn’t forget to do it a single day.
      Now compare it to last year, it was a flat 30 per week until the end of the celebration, and the year before for namek we got 35 per week (and 50 during the last days).
      Just like unit’s kit they needlessly complicate stuff for seemingly no reasons.

    • @manuelliberatore9598
      @manuelliberatore9598 9 місяців тому

      @@romain8996 I think this wwc gave us more stones overall tho

    • @romain8996
      @romain8996 9 місяців тому

      @@manuelliberatore9598 i mean I didn’t count, I just noticed that this very specific event somehow gets worst needlessly.

    • @Calebe428
      @Calebe428 9 місяців тому

      @@romain8996 lmao they probably gave out more stones this WWC than any other celebration, if not its real close. These major DFE LR celebrations like anni and WWC give out at least 1k every year

  • @xStrife1997x
    @xStrife1997x 9 місяців тому +2

    Dokkan ain't asking me for 1000s, they're asking Truth.

    • @maazshaikh5996
      @maazshaikh5996 9 місяців тому

      But logically speaking, if the fumbled (summonable) characters were ACTUALLY designed better then most guppies/dolphins would not mind dropping another 10-20 bucks on them.

  • @demigodz1224
    @demigodz1224 9 місяців тому +11

    Big agree on phy Vegito he has helped me in so many stages. He's aged well I would say

  • @Amethyst2941
    @Amethyst2941 9 місяців тому +3

    Didn't they ask in a survey "Why we summoned for said character?" and the answer that was chosen the most was "I summon based off the characters kit and how good it was." Well what happened? Did they make them and was like "Yeah! This is good!"

  • @bobigaming9055
    @bobigaming9055 9 місяців тому +3

    I love the connection between Teq Super Trunks and Truth haha 11:12

    • @FusedGogeta
      @FusedGogeta 9 місяців тому

      Except one sucks and the other doesn't, imma let other guess the first half

  • @oglilcancer
    @oglilcancer 9 місяців тому +2

    I'm actually glad Truth took the time to make a video like this. We can use it as a general look into how this year has not been too good for the units that have been released. I get we don't need every unit guarding or having DR, but we need something for these units for them to have some sort of value. It really seems like units are being released just to be released at this point, with only a few good options to sort through.

  • @beeznutz1928
    @beeznutz1928 9 місяців тому +3

    Omatsu was NOT cooking this year🙏🏻🙏🏻

  • @beasthunter4003
    @beasthunter4003 9 місяців тому +2

    2023, the fall
    2024, the rise
    2025, THE PEAK

    • @maazshaikh5996
      @maazshaikh5996 9 місяців тому

      And yet, somehow, Orange Piccolo will STILL be the grillmaster alongside PHY God Goku lololol

  • @Dinosaurman34
    @Dinosaurman34 9 місяців тому +3

    2023 can be summed up as: good content, bad units

  • @lokomosol
    @lokomosol 9 місяців тому +3

    I feel like this year has been a big win for f2p players like myself. About 10 characters are actually runnable and I've got almost every one besides fusion zamasu via same 'ol skipping maneuver (god goku, 23 wt goku and majunior, bulma, 8th anni gt duo, worldwide).

    • @StarNameKev
      @StarNameKev 9 місяців тому

      Still have to get lucky tho

  • @Lloyd00
    @Lloyd00 9 місяців тому +2

    Crazy is the day that LR kale and caulifla are bad. It pains me more than super buu is bad cuz i love using him

  • @Realisphrase
    @Realisphrase 9 місяців тому +1

    a significant portion of the premium characters have struggled at rainbow this year when they need to be solid at 55%

  • @uniquenm
    @uniquenm 9 місяців тому +7

    I think bad an fumble should be slightly differentiated. Like kale isnt bad, but she is sorta fumble, mostly because frost was a fumble. But i cant consider ftp ss goku as a fumble even though he is objectively bad because he is good for what he is and will likely be really good when he awakens. The lr gobros eza isnt necessarrily bad, but between their bad timing of release and not being as amazing as they should be they feel like a fumble

  • @taverasstuart3618
    @taverasstuart3618 9 місяців тому

    Love your vids Truth

  • @V3ct0rH11
    @V3ct0rH11 9 місяців тому +4

    I feel like it's just because the bar is *higher* now. A LOT higher, to the point where DR and Guard before supers *(BEFORE)* or extremely high dodge chance or something else dumb is needed to simply *survive.* Or else.

  • @demigodz1224
    @demigodz1224 9 місяців тому +25

    This is the year I have played dokkan the most. The character representation has been so fun for me this year. Yeah the kits have been so wonky I don't like that aspect at all

  • @kyllel
    @kyllel 9 місяців тому +2

    3:47 finally some sv respect he should be on the list 🗣️🗣️🗣️

  • @tonygetz4460
    @tonygetz4460 9 місяців тому +1

    New Years better blow my balls into the stratosphere because I miss crying from joy at animations, Golden Week and SSJ4 Goku basically carried so far in terms of character picks to me

  • @frodyn12
    @frodyn12 9 місяців тому +2

    i can’t help but notice u accidentally marked the god phy kami as bad

  • @Car_ter
    @Car_ter 9 місяців тому +1

    We really gotta go crazy on the survey participation. Brand new paid character kits just aren’t cutting it the way they are being Done.

  • @MrXQAZPLMX
    @MrXQAZPLMX 9 місяців тому

    Ngl I love discussion videos like this more than showcases.

  • @juiceygaming1012
    @juiceygaming1012 9 місяців тому +1

    i would love to see facecam for these rants man we need em man plz!!!!!!!

  • @vastttyl8161
    @vastttyl8161 9 місяців тому +1

    19:35 - 20:20 is one of the funniest Truth clips ever omg

  • @stray8959
    @stray8959 8 місяців тому

    Watching this gave me flashbacks on when a teacher would sit me down with my work and tell my what I did wrong😿

  • @brycejones5387
    @brycejones5387 9 місяців тому +1

    Half the video is him not wanting to put a unit as bad it’s like the realization slowly happens 😭

  • @Duscnoir
    @Duscnoir 9 місяців тому +3

    You gotta do 2022 and maybe 2021 so we can compare. This year can’t be considered bad if every year has similar numbers

    • @doctorreed_
      @doctorreed_ 9 місяців тому

      2022 had raditz lmfao theres definitely a lot of recency bias

    • @maazshaikh5996
      @maazshaikh5996 9 місяців тому

      The REAL issue is consistency though.
      Sure, Akatsuki IS listening to our surveys but surely there can be some polish to units kit-wise?
      8 YEARS into the game??? 😅
      It's really silly that we keep seeing similar mistakes being made for summonable units despite experiencing powercreep TWICE in the past year & a half (starting from 7th anni till present).
      It's truly hard to believe how DFE God Goku is, quite literally, a GOD-tier release and yet so many other TURs after him are not even HALF as good (not counting Golden Week of course)

    • @maazshaikh5996
      @maazshaikh5996 9 місяців тому

      @@ssjyubel True, but he simply feels extra special for some reason ya know?
      PHY Vegeta was okay on release in 2019, AGL Bardock was also just 'there' (his Active + SSJ animations were fire though), INT Broly was definitely good, INT Majin Vegeta had to wait several months until LR VT released before he got his time to shine 😅
      God Goku simply started cooking the moment he was available in-game. It's actually hard to believe how good he was (and still is)

  • @Fooly_Gaming
    @Fooly_Gaming 9 місяців тому

    Truth just gripped his stones and put it all on the table huh 😮‍💨😮‍💨🤣 love it bro

  • @ultravegito8351
    @ultravegito8351 9 місяців тому

    This felt like when the teacher finds out y’all misbehaved during a substitute day

  • @moralux7
    @moralux7 9 місяців тому +1

    Truth you should also tally every 2022 release to compare the goods and bads of both years

  • @JustAirizz
    @JustAirizz 9 місяців тому

    My boy truth was sounding like he was about to have an aneurysm 7:38

  • @Hambla28
    @Hambla28 9 місяців тому

    If you wanna do this again I think a better format would be putting all the units on a tier list template and having a bad and a good tier and just put the units in either of those, maybe have sunmonable and free units separated too

  • @ajanimalreeves3647
    @ajanimalreeves3647 9 місяців тому +3

    Do feel like truth was a little too harsh and a little too easy on some of the characters but you can tell his mind is in the right place. This year has been unacceptable for character design character pics and character timing

  • @vonnstevens2502
    @vonnstevens2502 9 місяців тому

    It’s very amazing to see 2019 units again

  • @The4gotNdeath
    @The4gotNdeath 9 місяців тому

    @datruthdt I’m glad you made this list prior to the DBheroes banner coming up, otherwise the tally would have been even more of a blowout XD

  • @ali_0887
    @ali_0887 9 місяців тому +2

    whether it was a joke or not, goresh said it best. They found the best way to make content hard, just make the units suck instead LOL

  • @tylerlee8531
    @tylerlee8531 9 місяців тому +3

    In my opnion if every Unit was OP/Bulma level i don't know if i'd find the game fun. Sometimes the wacky restrictions lead to interesting team building and the satisfaction from no iteming stages with less then superb teams is what keeps me playing.

  • @Wcsm112
    @Wcsm112 9 місяців тому +3

    A lot of the units he marked bad are units that need help and lot of them have not soo good kits. I agree

  • @ShinGodzilla1011
    @ShinGodzilla1011 9 місяців тому

    Absolutely has been a year of fumbles ! But there definitely has been some greatness too ! Example 23 WT celebration, Godku, Ult Gohan/Orange piccolo etc. but the fumbles hit hard because they could of been easily avoided

  • @aka-fusion8909
    @aka-fusion8909 9 місяців тому +1

    I think ur severely underrating turles i use him at 55% and can still get thru most of the difficult content with him and his team is also good, he’s better then most realease this year

    • @heechanlee8603
      @heechanlee8603 9 місяців тому +3

      lol

    • @fracturedfuture370
      @fracturedfuture370 9 місяців тому +5

      That's the funny thing. For a long while, Truth liked Turles. He's always known Turles is underpowered but he can acknowledge his strength.

    • @maazshaikh5996
      @maazshaikh5996 9 місяців тому

      Now imagine that bastard with an intro that you could actually activate AND another BBB partner (aka a DFE Transforming Lord Slug who shares 4 major links with him) lol

    • @StarNameKev
      @StarNameKev 9 місяців тому +1

      "Most"
      Now try him in the absolute hardest fights

  • @Hairmess1
    @Hairmess1 9 місяців тому

    Now you have to do 2022 and 2021 fumble count video. We need to compare.

  • @crowofjudgement4718
    @crowofjudgement4718 9 місяців тому +2

    20:19 Let's not forget the precious kai's that need to be sacrificed only for the unit to suck💀

  • @Kaptnkey
    @Kaptnkey 9 місяців тому +1

    You’re allowed to have gripes for a game, you’re allowed to be critical of a game, I think if you’re putting thousands of dollars a month into a game - job or not - hours of your time to make sure they’re at their best, and perform at their best, and then they’re shit you’re ESPECIALLY allowed to have gripes. this year besides celebrations have been honest to god fumbles man people have to agree there.

  • @sytycdt
    @sytycdt 9 місяців тому +1

    To put it more into perspective, we should compare this years numbers to 2022 or 2021

  • @Frosty42047
    @Frosty42047 9 місяців тому +2

    Its clear theyre only pouring the love into Bigger Celebrations with Occasional seemingly potentially accidental love for unit here or there in filler celebrations, But has me hopeful for future, They seem to really value shared Celebrations most of all, Saiyan Day Godku, Golden Week some of best units in game, WWC Celebration was jam packed full of Ws, Has me hopeful when Sync is finally actually Syncd up maybe overall summonable units performance will improve, But at very least seems we can expect top tier units for major celebrations, Which is cool Imo I dont save but I can see someone who does its an easy pass on all these units n just save for what we know will likely be great bigger celebrations…
    Also most of recent content is near Identical, Hits hard with Hard Hitting AoEs, Quicker fights, If they simply drop longer content or newer difficulties for older long content then lot more units become relevant, Multiple Enemy content like ESBRs, Simple damn Super Class Red Zone type event, Thats definitely partly to blame for some units performance, Aside from that lot of good units are held back by Bad teams that that unit literally needs, It just drags them down, If they were SSBKK level and could carry team itd be different but they arent, Damn Super Trunks is like SSBKK but only gets a Chance!! At guard with 4!!!!!! Damn A/CS Units, That “Chance” to guard with That condition is biggest load of bullsht ever, Ever!! Look at what SSBKK gets with his condition, Look at what Ginyu n his Banner units got with their conditions, Theres zero reason that needed to be a Chance, Even with guard he can still get mega boot stomped so why, The Fck! Is it only a Chance with that Condition!? Then theres Loooot of units lately that are getting shaft defensively for dumbass Offensive ability, Offense is great, On a unit thats least relevant defensively, But no that offensive ability theyre giving out for whatever reason has them dialing back units defensive ability, No matter How much Offensive Ability you want to give unit should never affect units defensive potential, Unit should be good at minimum or conditionally great then give the offensive ability on top of it, No unit should be one or the other, Specially not offensive but not defensive, That said theyve been designing lit of units based of said units Peak! Defensive or Offensive potential, Which lot of these units just like Always are peak defensively post super or post multiple supers etc, But lot of hardest content have AoEs that just doom said units immediately, Again we need a wider range of modern difficult content in order to take advantage of lot of these units at their peak potential, But we just dont have it, Its short quick hard hitting fights with hard hitting AoEs, at moment, Occasionally a limited specific ESBR, All older stages lot of units do fine in but its older content, Newer players will get use of of said units doing said older content for first time but thats bout it…
    I dont think units need to be better more than I think we just need wider range n variety of difficult modern content to run the large variety of performing units in, Post Super Units just auto written off atm because of AoEs alone….

  • @benzoswonzo8491
    @benzoswonzo8491 9 місяців тому +4

    Whoever is, their marketing team is completely clueless. Making units bad just means people won't buy sales and summon. Making units amazing will even temp people who don't spend a lot to summon. And the fact they release mid after mid characters when to rainbow a unit is $1000-3000 is actually insulting 😂

  • @MariusRazor
    @MariusRazor 9 місяців тому

    To realy put things into perspective you should take 2022 and do a tally with its bad and good releases to see which year had more good releases

  • @lyubot.9138
    @lyubot.9138 9 місяців тому

    Really good idea but I think you could’ve executed it better. Separating units into dokkan fest, lr, ftp, sub eza etc. and then adding a mid option to good and bad would be the best way to go about things. Then doing this for other years can tell you how many dokkan fests were good this year compared to another year or how many sub ezas were good compared to another etc etc

  • @only_son5040
    @only_son5040 9 місяців тому

    My favorite video of the year. Thank you Truth. It has been a bad year of releases. Harder content with shitty characters

  • @GhostlyMex
    @GhostlyMex 9 місяців тому +1

    14:28
    Yea you're good
    You're good
    .....

  • @kingdomcomesuperman3669
    @kingdomcomesuperman3669 9 місяців тому

    The main issue is they've been doing what what for Gokus on every unit, it makes sense that Gokus would be restricted for certain teams/events given how many we get but doing it for niche characters like Super 17, Turles, Android 17 & 18 who won't be getting as frequent units or buffs is a huge detriment. So many of these fall under the category of not facing the right type of enemy or banner unit sucks so now they're in a rough spot.
    Pair that with dokkan going the easy route as usual of difficult with AoE's and turn 1 getting blasted when the meta is defense on super or build up doesn't help.
    Edit: only change I'd make is int DKP as good, he was helpful for my Fusion Zamasu team against some Redzones pre-EZAs.

  • @redheartuzumaki4769
    @redheartuzumaki4769 9 місяців тому

    Could you make a video on 2022 units? Ik that was last year and somewhat less relevant, but I think these same problems stretch back that far.

  • @onehitwonders7729
    @onehitwonders7729 9 місяців тому

    7:19 Truth was fighting for his Life when making this take bruh 😭😭

  • @ivanmartinez498
    @ivanmartinez498 9 місяців тому +2

    of all the problems i’ve had with dokkan over the years i never thought it would be the units just being bad. it’s so annoying to have all these cool characters and no where to use them at all

  • @mystic3345
    @mystic3345 9 місяців тому +37

    The reason why Trunks and Broly are in the thumbnail is because they are fighting against the shaft

    • @Scar3cr0wwx
      @Scar3cr0wwx 9 місяців тому +7

      Yeah but they themselves got shafted by the king of shaft himself, Raditz, who gave them a downgrade in power when he gave them his ki lol

    • @kuru-yami9416
      @kuru-yami9416 9 місяців тому +2

      I think they will be good

  • @flexmedia8576
    @flexmedia8576 9 місяців тому +7

    Every single unit outside of the monster celebrations except for Bulma have been at least modest L's...most of them massive L's. Very disappointing character designs in 2023

  • @gdiggity9721
    @gdiggity9721 9 місяців тому

    When he said said “maybe don’t make these dokkanfests suck balls” that hit me

  • @won-tonjohn4418
    @won-tonjohn4418 9 місяців тому +1

    2023 is the year of saving yo stones🎉

  • @burnedout2980
    @burnedout2980 9 місяців тому

    like the extreme breathing when calling buu bad

  • @ignaciofernandes4216
    @ignaciofernandes4216 9 місяців тому +1

    "Has 2023 been a year of Dokkan fumbles?" Yes.

  • @mrgamerrrr420
    @mrgamerrrr420 9 місяців тому

    Ma boi woke up and chose violence

  • @taco2515
    @taco2515 9 місяців тому +1

    14:56 BRO DID THE LOOK LISTEN LMAO

  • @mrgamerrrr420
    @mrgamerrrr420 9 місяців тому

    14:52 LMFAO and can't stop 😂

  • @SilverRiMiX
    @SilverRiMiX 9 місяців тому +4

    Out of the 144 units released this year, maybe 10 or 15 should've been bad if they're sub EZAs and/or f2p. Well over half of them being bad is actually awful. And not every unit on the good list is great. Here's hoping for a much better 2024.

  • @ThatGuyImortal
    @ThatGuyImortal 9 місяців тому

    Honestly if I can object to 1 bad placement, I'd say The WT INT Demon King Piccolo is pretty good. Damage Reduction, Debuff, some support, A good chunk of defense from building up and SA, he's genuinely solid tbh

  • @MajinMattPlays
    @MajinMattPlays 9 місяців тому +1

    As someone else said, the issue Dokkan is facing right now isn't necessarily that the major units are bad, Kale, Turles, Super Trunks can all be good, the issue is the refusal to give these units the support and help they desperately need, as well as not giving units like Turles events they can succeed in. 2024 NEEDS event variety, at the very least in what kind of enemies we face. We need to fight Super Class enemies, ToP Enemies, Goku's Family, etc for these units to be good, but we just don't have any content for it. I was on copium for a long time for some units to get Long Events and stuff but it's getting old having no good events for units, it doesn't mkae a unit release feel exciting anymore.

  • @ericantonian4926
    @ericantonian4926 9 місяців тому +1

    Honestly great point at the end with the community overhyping some of these units. As a f2p myself Im guilty of that myself since I see huge numbers on this channel but I rarely have new units at anything above 55% so its very skewed for me.

  • @brandon4087
    @brandon4087 9 місяців тому +3

    Truth, I think you made a mistake. You had kami labeled as bad. If memory serves, didn't he perform greatly in the world tour you gave him.

  • @KonEl17
    @KonEl17 9 місяців тому +1

    But you whats good bout seeing and what ive been saying for Global a sync would kinda fuck us with these exact situation! I value watching these units tested by you and the homies to gauge if imma use stones or even waste my time eza super trash units

  • @Witchkingrider
    @Witchkingrider 9 місяців тому +20

    Absolutely yes. I will say a lot of the character picks weren't neccesarily bad, but A LOT of the kits have been mid to downright garbage. The truly good kits on release (new) this year have been few and far between. Even some of the 8th anniversary and wwd (the two biggest celebrations of the year) units were mid kit wise. Great showing for the future years of Dokkan under FRAUDMATSU!

  • @Ako-LP
    @Ako-LP 9 місяців тому

    This is actually a cool idea, can we get a Version of this for all years of dokkan?

  • @retto4390
    @retto4390 9 місяців тому +2

    Sad part is kale is fantastic just doesnt have the help. but the real question is are the 2021 releases worse than the 2023. IE agl bardok str kefla etc.

    • @maazshaikh5996
      @maazshaikh5996 9 місяців тому

      Lol imagine that most of the 2020-21 EZAs end up being straight up BETTER than the summonable units from this year? 😅
      Not counting major celebrations of course eg: Saiyan Day, Golden Week, Anni or WWD

  • @velleity5369
    @velleity5369 9 місяців тому

    This was really enjoyable content; a shame this year has been so wonky

  • @monadoboy8009
    @monadoboy8009 9 місяців тому +14

    The characters picks definitely aren't a miss though. I think it's cool that Ribrieanne and her team got units, but they're releasing these units with such God awful restrictions that won't work in harder content. For example Ribrieanne needs "Tournament Participants" that are also "Power of Wishes". Turles needs a "Goku's Family" enemy for his intro, the Blue Boys need under 70% and turn 5 or turn 7 with a "Future Saga" ally. Some of these conditions just are even possible at times.

    • @froger9973
      @froger9973 9 місяців тому

      The Agl VB's transformation condition isn't that difficult to get at all, he can just get his active skill active on turn 7 with a future saga category ally (in this case just keep him on main rotation with another Vegito Blue)

    • @farcadinal8173
      @farcadinal8173 9 місяців тому +3

      Dont forget about super buu with guaranteed guard when facing a Majin Boo saga or fusion enemy.
      I know, its good in some hard events, but It could be Just guaranteed guard.

    • @yuutoyuki8868
      @yuutoyuki8868 9 місяців тому

      ​​​@@froger9973it is bad in this current content, where by turn 4-5 everything is nearly over. And their active skill is not even turn 5 but 5 turns from first appearance, so easily 5-7 turns, It should've been a turn 1 vegito and the intro being their active skill fusion

    • @AnUncreativeGuy
      @AnUncreativeGuy 9 місяців тому +1

      @@froger9973 you’re right, it really isn’t that difficult. Just don’t get one shot with the Blue Frauds on turn 5/6, simple as that.

    • @mikem0ke
      @mikem0ke 9 місяців тому

      @@yuutoyuki8868 yall are ending things at turn 5? rz merged zam is like a 10-12 turn fight for me

  • @KeifeOnDaTube
    @KeifeOnDaTube 9 місяців тому

    *sees the title*
    “Yes”

  • @YamiMystic
    @YamiMystic 9 місяців тому

    Good vid