Old MTB Converted to a Comfort Bike using Shimano CUES 1x 9speed drivetrain parts. TURNED OUT GREAT!
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- Ever since I heard about the Shimano CUES components I've wanted to buy the cheapest 1 x 9 speed parts and convert an older mountain bike into an upright, general purpose, all around town, comfort bike for regular people. It's just so much easier to use one shifter to access the same wide range of gears, so why not. So, I FINALLY got my hands on some parts and snagged a perfect candidate from the local bike charity and got to work. I really stuggled quite a bit along the way, but the end result was fantastic! PLUS!!! BONUS WHEELIES!
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This is the Bob Ross of the bicycle world and exactly the YT channel I’ve been looking for.
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There's currently an Epic Paris-Nice bicycle race happening(Stage 5 today!)... And Bicycle Farmer is still THE BEST BICYCLE CONTENT ON UA-cam!! Converting a Triple Triangle📐GT to a 1×9 with new Shimano Tech... IT Doesn't get any Better than That!!🙂 Especially with Bk Frmr supplying the Laughs!!😂 Love the takes on everything bike and beyond. This "Struggle Bus" episode made me feel good about my own "mechanic" fumblings(re-packed front wheel bearings on my Specialized HardRock last month!!). Watching all the way through and liking... Will consider subscribe/donation when business picks up this month... THANK you for a great😃 channel!!🙏
Oh Yeah😅... Happy Birthday 🎉 Bike Farmer!!!
I couldn't have said it better, it definitely had that vibe.
37:30 the wrench getting bounced around by the wheel is hilarious
totally. I love seeing that shit during the edits. So dumb.
I love fixing up old bikes and giving them new life again. Your channel is pretty good to watch, keep it up and thanks.
Bike Co-ops, where you meet "mechanics" that know so much that just isn't so. Stopped by one to grab an old derailleur and drop off a car load of used parts from our shop. A kid renting a work stand was trying to put a standard BSA 24tpi BB into a vintage Raleigh (26tpi). I instructed him that he needed a 26tpi bb. The "experience mechanic volunteer" told me I was wrong and told me not to give instructions until I take their training course. Guess my over a decade of professional experience at the time and multiple industry certifications didn't account for anything. He then turned back to that guy and helped him make a mess. I wish that was the only example. The same Co-op volunteers used to stop by my buddy's shop not far away and undercut repair quotes to customers IN HIS SHOP.
I know the overall outreach and goal of Co-ops is good, but I'd rather hire a mechanic with no shop experience with the willingness to learn than someone who learned everything the know from a Co-op. Last one we hired cost us so much in terrible repairs that damaged our reputation and nearly caused legal trouble.
"Yesterday I didn't know how to spell inchinier today I is one!"
I find it cool that you don't edit out the struggles. I think they create the best teaching moments in your videos. And they are entertaining.
CUES was new to me and I definitely keep them in mind.
I volunteer at our coop and that helps me honing my skills.
I really appreciate this feedback. I found myself watching @rosastringworks videos and watching Jerry, a very skilled craftsman, struggle with some seemingly routine tasks, and always appreciated he just let the camera run while he expressed frustration and laughed at himself because, it just isn't that hard!
And I just learned that Mountain Dew with real sugar is a thing!
As big guy(300lbs) in south Texas tubeless was a game changer. I would make sure I always had two spares tubes on me for any ride over my usual 5mile commute. Goat heads and mesquite thorns were the bane of my tires. After going tubeless and doing my first fluid top up I ran my hands along the inside of the tire. 8! I counted 8thorns, on a single tire, just happily sticking 1/16-1/8in through the tire. I left them be and filled’er up, I’ll never look back.
I had a bike like this in the ‘90s when I was in college. Loved that bike. I hope the person that stole it has taken care of it and maybe fixed it up like this on.
I don't like thieves and would never wish them well, nor success in bike upgrades. But that's just me.
Ironically this was genuinely my first Bike Farmer video! Keep up the good work Brother.
I am so glad the algorithm has brought me to your channel. I have been buying a few 26" mtbs for cheap on Facebook marketplace and I think I am going convert one using Ques. I have also started working at a non profit bike shop as a volunteer just to get back into the bike maintenance world. I have never worked in a bike shop but since 1985 I have always taken care of my own bikes and I rarely if at all take my bikes to a shop. So when I volunteer I am not totally clueless and with your no-nonsense channel bringing me up to speed all the better. Now to go through your videos and give you some more Likes.
Thanks, your cable routing problem made me understand my cable routing ( XT derrailleur) was wrong.
It was very helpful.
Great GT restoration by the way
I love that you show not getting everything right. That what life is all about. ❤
I’m just waiting for the drop bar CUES to hit the market. If they’re reasonably priced and same compatibility that 11 speed 11-50 will probably end up replacing the 3x8 on my gravel bike.
In another video (maybe a later one?) you mentioned watching all of bob ross and that show being an inspiration for this, and it really shows. I love love love that you talk your way through the problems you face. I know sometimes you glaze over things that may be too complicated to explain without giving an entire damn lecture on the thing, but I feel like I’ve learned so much just in the last few hours of binging your videos. I’m an avid DIYer, and I love my bikes. I will say though, I wish disc brakes came standard on bikes much sooner than they did- I hate rim brakes. I grew up on BMX, so I either had coaster brakes or no brakes for the longest lol I just think disc brakes are more powerful, easier to work on (for me), and I find bleeding brakes very satisfying and rewarding. Great job! Please keep these going for forever
I started out at a bike co-op too. The things you learn, and learn not to do. Most people who haven't worked at a bike co-op don't know the past few decades of compatibility/incompatibility. When most of what you look at is enthusiast-level stuff made in the past 10 years, it's a trial by fire. But the lack of Shimano/SRAM compatibility in 6-8 speed should be an easy one.
40:12 This is my first ever BikeFarmer video and I am having a blast! It's hard to believe you've been doing this for years, but I am so grateful for sharing this video with us! I love your positive energy, I have to watch other videos, too! I've never seen anyone sand paint off a rim, that's a great tip! Keep the good work up man, you just gained a subscriber.
Nice! I like how you pretended to struggle with basic wrenching in this video to make it more approachable! HAPPY BIRTHDAY
48:43 I work at a bike coop. We are volunteers and learning. We love your videos and thanks. We have had rabbit holes as you discussed- ours was incompatible parts. Thanks for your calm demeaned
Love the GT action in trek country. Great informative and humorous video. That new group looks solid for the price point
I have just converted an old Marin Rift Zone in to a retro mod. I used Deore 1x11. Like you, it was my first time with a 1x11 rear mech set up. The new super range mechs are quite different to the older style. Took me a few attempts to get it right myself. I'm deffo a 1x11 convert though. Don't know why they didn't do it 30 years ago. You've really nailed thr Bob Ross thing. Love the style you've got here. Being in the UK I just discovered Bob Ross a few years ago but found it quite therapeutic. You can add yourself the list of therapeutic film makers
Those triple triangle GTs are sharp looking. Especially the 18" ones. Look fast standing still😊
There's something about that look, isn't there! I like the simple look of the old Kona bikes, too.
Happy Birthday! (Probably belated, but hey hopefully you'll get to see this the next time your birthday rolls around!)!
Kalloy makes great alloy budget handlebars with various higher sweep/rise options in the $20-$30 range. These are also sold/relabeled under the Dimension brand in the US. Kalloy also makes some great value stems ('Uno') in polished silver and black. Great for these types of rebuilds. A lot of the big bike brands source their stems/bars from Kalloy, then sell them with their logo on it for more $$$.
I appreciate you showing the parts that didn't go smooth. So many bike repair vids have everything go miraculously perfect every time. You don't know how many times I have struggled with the chain master link not popping on easily or how many times I have dropped and lost parts. I was right there with you. Enjoying the channel!
This is the most painful, all thumbs video, by a "bike mechanic" that I ever suffered through. It's guys like this that made me learn to work on my own stuff.
You are being mean
I have a similar setup to that bike. 26x1.95 and swept bars. SUPER comfortable.
I love theGT three triangle GT frame. Ive had at least 4 of them since 1993.
If someone made some really cool looking Dork Disks, I think it could be made to be cool! Adding flair to a bike never gets old..
Happy belated Birthday Bike Farmer!
Hope you had a great day.
Just found this… after I’d put Cues onto a 2007 Spesh’ Rockhopper, to replace the old Deore LX. Works a like a charm.
Lot of discussion about flats How do you feel about the flat prevention liners. You know the harder plastic strip that is between the tube and tire? 🤷🏻♂️
Love your videos I learned so much!
I mean, if you're in goathead country, yeah, I guess it's a thing to worry about. Not around here though. I can change a tube in like 5 minutes while eating a sandwich. It's just part of the ride, every once in a long while.
1:00 for anyone wondering this is Trek
Happy Birthday man!
About tubeless. I was in the same boat as you. Why deal with the mess and complexity of tubeless when tubes do just fine. Cue new bike purchase that came tubeless. I really don't know if it was the frame or the tires that made it way more comfortable than my old bike. What I do know after replacing my first set of tires on that bike, the number of holes tubeless filled without me knowing was astonishing. I never had a single flat I had to fix on the road. There was one time it managed to seal a gash on the margin of the tread/sidewall. Riding in the alps bombing down some great twisties. I noticed when I got back that the rear tire was a bit low. It wouldn't hold the pressure. Blew the sealant out the gash. Ended up patching the tire from the inside using just the tools I carry on the bike. Replaced the tire when I got back from vacation. I'd hate to think what would have happened if the sealant didn't seal that gash while bombing down a hill at 70+.
I really Like the Idea of Cues. Cross compatibility everywhere. Yes! We need that. But the implementation is far from perfect, as we already had that. Shimano already had a perfect 9 Speed System, which (btw.) was perfectly intercompatible.
I can already mix every Shimano 9 Speed Shifter with any derailleur. Doesn't matter, whether it is road or mtb, ...
So why couldn't they just use that (or at least the same cable pull ratio) for Cues (or just integrate the Cues System to their 9 Peed system.
Not only do I now have to double-check, whether something is "old" or "new" 9 speed cable pull,
but the support (from shimano and other brands) for shimano compatible "old" 9 speed stuff will slowly end.
And nobody seems to care... Why. This is pure marketing :(
Btw. great video. I defenitely have tocheck more of your videos this evening.
I have do finish this text, now, as I am typing on a phone with broken display and faulty touch screen. LoL
Bye
Yes, 9sp shimano is a sweet spot in history. But with the advancement in 1x drivetrains, CUES seems like a good path forward. But it is like 5000 new SKUs so 🤦🏻♂️
@@bkefrmr
Yep. Cues means lots of new parts and quite probable expiring of the support for all the "old" stuff (which almost all my bikes use, as it was (imo) the best overall cross compatible system)
As far as 1by goes:
I often build up 1x9 Setups with Shimano 9 Speed systems. Either with old or new shimano parts, or with new shimano kompatible parts from other manufactures. They are almost perfect.
The only thing shimano hat to do is build and sell a 9 speed derailleur with a clutch and a range from 11 to 46. But they prefer to sell a whole new system. (Totally understabdable from a business perspective. Especially as most customers don't even know it is probably not the most customer friendly way. But as a customer I don't like that)
Btw such a derailleur already exists in the old shimano 9s system with the SunRace RDM900. But its not the best quality wise (its ok, but I would prefer to pay a little extra for a better one).
I thoroughly enjoy your video's, especially the fact that you don't hide problems. I do get a kick out of your struggle with pain in the ass rim breaks, but I do understand how they fit your business model. Most of your affordable donor bikes will have them. You produce bikes that are perfect for your clientele. Great channel...Love how you have mellowed over time.
Love your sense of humor! Happy birthday.
I’m enjoying your excellent videos….
And that music takes me back to my college years. It sounds like a NYC lounge scene in a late 1960’s movie😎
Still a seat change away from ripping a trail.. Very versatile setup.
Beauty of a bike bud, nice build! I do love that Shimano has some love for the everyday cyclist with cues, affordable, comparable, durable (I hope?) that is going to be a heck of a bike for someone
I loved every second of this video. It was just like a day at the bike shop for me....except you curse less😅...and you only got the wrench in the spokes instead of your hand. Great video!!
The work of an engineer?!?!… I resemble that remark. 😜
Thank you for showing the disassembly and conversion to a 1x setup. 👍🏽
& a very happy birthday 🎂🎉
I picked up a gt palomar and i think this is the direction i wanna take it. Thanks for the info!
Happy belated birthday =)
Just found your channel today and I like it a lot. Keep up the good work.
Very good project ,great video and Happy Birthday !!!
I LOVE that frame!!! I currently have 3 GT triple triangle bikes from the 90's. My personal road bike is a 97 aluminum Force. I have a timberline and an output trail that I'm flipping..
Dork disc to the rescue, hahaha, you crack me up 🙂
I don't really get flats... so I put on a tire, pump it up and about the only maintenance I do is put air in it until the tire is worn out. I've looked into tubeless, and it seems like a lot of work. I may try it to see if there are real benefits like running lower air pressure, but they're gonna sit for months in the winter and I don't look forward to cleaning up that mess. The other craze I see right now is waxing chains, and it just looks like a lot of work and I guess my chains cost like $25 so if I have to replace it after 1000 miles instead of 2000 or whatever, that's easier than taking a chain off completely every week to rewax it.
fuckin' a Steve you know what's up
Chain waxing is like a cult, cannot understand why anybody who is not a pro racer does it. And even the pros get their mechanics to do it for them 😂
Happy Birthday brother man. Great video as always
42t front and 11-46 rear is such a useful range, although it looks almost hilariously huge on 26" wheels. I have this setup on my gravel / commuter bike (1x11 on 700c wheels in my case) and it's got high enough gearing that I can't spin out unless I'm going down a steep hill (rare here in pancake flat Shanghai!) and low enough to climb grades of >12% (which I did in the Canadian Rockies last summer). Most people wouldn't need anything more than that kind of range, ever. And the mechanical simplicity of 1x is great.
Oh, and that asymmetric stem on this bike was making me cross-eyed trying to figure out what the orientation of the screws was. Never seen anything quite like that! 😂
Your view on tubeless basically matches my own. I see no need to deal with the trouble, especially when TPU tubes exist and are just about as light, and with proper tire selection you can go for a long time without a puncture.
Great video again and...Happy Birthday!!! 😊
Happy birthday man!!
Awesome ideas 😎👌
Happy Birthday!
Bike Farmer Wheelies, I gotta try that although at almost 72 years old I should wear a helmet perhaps. Happy Birthday.
I’m 47 and too old for wheelies
Love that bike. Makes me want to have the cues system put on my old Navigator 200.
Happy birthday Bike Farmer!
I could not agree with you more on tubeless tires. I have tried it and found it to be way too much trouble -- for exactly the reasons you mention. I would rather just find the foreign body in the tire, install a new tube, and move on. I am, however, very interested as to how you feel about CUES.
By the way... on the rim tape issue. If the rim is wide enough (and that one looks like it is), I use Gorilla Tape. It works very well, is easy to work with, and is super cheap. It also works for tubeless; but I covered that topic.
1st time viewer here, great informative and entertaining video, thank you!
Pulled out my old raleigh m50 mb from 2003 and rode it today, which brought me here. Am 61 now and was wondering if I could do anything to it for more comfort. I think I have a new project and will be watching your other videos, subscribed! Thank you.
Definitely. It’s usually about $250 to do what I do at my shop. Sometimes it’s best to just trade in for another bike I’ve already got finished. It’s usually a decision I make WITH the customer after a couple test rides. Those are my favorite deals for sure.
I had tires like hose on my old bike but aqua treads looked just like good year aqua treads
Close the gap a bit between the big cog and the pulley wheel. It will shift down better.
Happy birthday, Bikefarmer! Mine was yesterday, March 5
Ok my next project! I have an old MTB I’m gonna do this to.
not sure about the Bob Ross comparison, but I would make a Bob Villa comparison... This Old Bike
Another bike saved from the junk pile and another trip around the sun for the Bike Farmer...! lol! 😎
Have to ask. How is the spacing for a 7 speed capable to allow the installation of a 9 speed freewheel?
Cues shifting slow but smooth,i❤it;)
Not sure what you mean by slow, but it's great
40:00 - my thought exactly 😮
Thanks for sharing.
Hmm, may start looking for a frame …
Chain guard for the 1x9 ??
Nice job. I like the colours on that GT frame. Well done with those annoying V brakes.
You forgot to yell "EXTREEEMEEEE!" after you had some Mountain Dew.
Happy Birthday Bike farmer from warmer southern Utah
To start, absolutely enjoy your videos..so enjoyable and relaxing and entertaining to watch. That GT bike is nearly identical to the one that got me back on a bike which reversed my physical decline. I am now 75 and still ride on average 3500 miles a summer. Two words of what is meant to be friendly advice..... stay out of politics.....and get over your disc brake fetish...lol
I was waiting n wondering when you were going install the Cues system. Cool . I need one too
Alfine 8 is the way to go, especially on a decent frame like that!
I agree with you about tubeless. As a home bike mechanic that maintains my own little Fleet of bikes between mine my wife's and my five kids, I think just having tubes is easier. What is your opinion on the heavy duty slime tubes? They are extra thick and they come filled with slime. I'm currently using them on my bike and I've run over a couple of thorns and road debris that would have left me stranded with a flat before, but the Slime has done a fantastic job of sealing things right back up.
I used to use Slime and after a year or so it just clumps up into balls and is ineffective on punctures. Maybe I got unlucky though.
I switched to Flatout sealant (they make one for bikes). I think its a better product and seals up punctures from thorns/nails and maintains its viscosity.
Love this. Repurposing an old bike and it’s not proprietary!
Happy Birthday 🎉
I used to race Motocross and drag race four wheelers and I'm great on bikes that's my favorite thing to do is ride a wheelie once you find a balance point use your back brake just to come down a little bit if you need to😅😅😅😅
I had a GT saddleback My parents got me for Christmas when I was like 10 years old back then it was like 800 bucks I'm 39 that was when I was back then it was like 800 bucks I'm 39 years old now I had the bike for 5 months and it got stolen it was an amazing bike from what I remember GT is always been my favorite brand of bikes because I've rode a lot of their performer bikes doing BMX when gyros were real real popular
Nice bike I would consider buying it
I still have it
I really enjoy tour videos, especially when things dont go exactly according to plan.
I'm tinkering with a 90s MTB and planning on converting it to a gravel bike. Wheel uograded is needed and I'm curious as to what wheelset you used and if an 11 speed cassette would fit. Thanks and enjoy the ride.
That Cassette doesn't have a granny gear, it has 3 granny gears.
Normal jumps Form 11 to 23 and then 28, 36, 46.
Love those GT frames👍
Need an Ope! counter in the bottom right corner.
Lovely frame!
Do any of the Cues derailleurs have a clutch?
Im asking a question not making a statement or saying you are doing something wrong as I am not a professional. I was always told not to lube my bottom bracket tapers as some future over tightening could give enough lube to stretch things. Have you ever had a quality crank you found ruined from over tightening with our without lube being used?
So it's not just me who can have an 'off' day.I feel for you. I'm glad to see that you're as fussy as I am getting those V brakes balanced. Nice build
You sir can really shine a turd as my brother used to say! I was curious about the cues thanks for the lesson!
I have One, white and blue, beautiful 💪
I had that GT when it came out in th3 blue and white must have been , 15ish at the time I remember bike shops trying to put everyone on 21in frames at the time a 19in was perfect though great bike for wheelies I remember haha
I remember being taught about the mandatory 21 inch frames in the bike shop indoctrination programs sponsored by the Democrats probably
Them sealed cartridge bottom bracket bearing can be rebuilt however they take unusual bearings like 5/32? And it takes about an hour.
37 00 Man am I on the struggle bus right now !! 😂😂
40:00 true, like why dont you set the limit screws without the chain. You can match the pulley perfectly with the sprocket that way. All need it fine tune the tension
ps: 41:50 please, just set the pads correctly. The reason the squeek is because you've aligned them perpendicular, which creates chatter, when you need a slight angle opening up opposite running direction. To make this easy you can build a simple jig you pull over the pads.
If I lived around I'd buy a bike setup like that from ya as quick as I saw it
You have the patiences of a saint! I,d would have thrown the bike across the room by now, 😂
this was awesome
You could have made a seperate video for that brake ceremony :D It was beautiful though! Do you polish with Pledge? Cheers from France!
If it pedals to easy shift to higher number gear. If it pedals to hard shift to smaller number gear. If it's just right leave it alone.
Like that Shimano set❤
HIGHLIGHT ALERT: Hey everyone, if you are wondering the Lemon Pledge comes out at the 11:00 mark!🍋😉
Do you guys have any similar builds right now for XL frame sizes?