For people wondering about the audio: I was using background music taken from Blade & Soul and they decided to copyright strike the video. The only way to resolve this was to remove the background music from the first 3 minutes of the video, which distorted my voice. I apologize for this but there's nothing I can do about it. I've used background music from Blade & Soul dozens of times in dozens of videos, but apparently this time it was not okay.
@@ehyzen already released in china, tried it. Graphics updated and few key differences , such as all, all field boss drop costumes incl the frog and pot dog boss in bamboo area
I would 100% grind it out again if they had a classic release. The dopamine from farming naryu sanctum for days to finally get the bracelet drop and changing your rotation entirely. The dodging and i frames are so insane.
I think what killed it for me was the over reliance on cash shop, more specifically the Treasure trove. Add on the lack of developer communication with the community, the "sequel" being a mobile game and overall just lack of content. Neo classic might pull some old fans like me back in but I'm not going to hold my breath.
Now i remember why i quit, was a grindy player and i got to a point where if you dont spend money, you dont progress, no matter how much time you put into it, such a shame, also the UE update was the final nail in the coffin.. the character (which was one of the main selling points) look horrible.. downloaded again years later to find the same, and not to account the game always had problems of optimization.. i5 8500 with a 1660ti for getting barely 30Fps on some maps/ cities (moving to EU5 was a horrible move since the optimization problem just got worse). If they fixed those things and move to a less p2w monetization could lead to a resurrection of the game.. another example of company greed killed this amazing game..
@@kishi8774 Yeah, I think when I hit the point that my next weapon upgrade would take literally playing 3-4 hours daily on different accounts, doing the most efficient dailies, then funneling that back to my main for 4 months straight was when I dropped it. It was that or pay nearly $200 in the cash shop. If you were doing end game raids the game really hit a point where it was like "either live in this game to still fall behind updates" or "pay a large chunk of your monthly income each month to barely keep up". Which was sad because I've never loved an MMO as much as this one.
This is around the time I quit as well, I vaguely remember them hosting live streams where they talk about how excited they are to share their new p2w features and tried to convince us all that we should be excited too and how great it was going to be.
Now i remember why i quit, was a grindy player and i got to a point where if you dont spend money, you dont progress, no matter how much time you put into it, such a shame, also the UE update was the final nail in the coffin.. the character (which was one of the main selling points) look horrible.. downloaded again years later to find the same, and not to account the game always had problems of optimization.. i5 8500 with a 1660ti for getting barely 30Fps on some maps/ cities (moving to EU5 was a horrible move since the optimization problem just got worse)
I think it was when raid systems were introduced for me. It was cool at first but trying to get the equipment you wanted from it was rough when there was like 3 random drops and a bunch of people that need certain drops. It got tough to study up on the new bosses every update too and get used to their very specific mechanics.
They probably killed the most interesting game I've ever seen so far. I played for 10 years WoW high level, the first time I discovered B&S I was mindblown, before the p2w system. That's a litterally total preposterous shame. They found a way to turn a diamond into an amazingly frustrating shit.
I played when it first came out. I was a Berserker or whatever uses the big axe/hammer. But I remember some class with a flower companion was wrecking everyone in PvP much easier.
Oh yeah ah remember the fucking summoner that was the healer on pve but in pvp that class was literrally broken no one can kill that shit except by the destroyer I always play against a good summoner I lost nothing to do with my Blade cancer for more that i made perfect combos
i downloaded bns for the first time in a while (after a lot of grief - the launcher says it only needs 50gb to dl but actually needs 100gb and doesnt tell you that - just fails the dl and doesnt tell you whats wrong if you dont have storage) and was extremely disappointed to open the game and not see a single other player in the old hotspots... super sad to see as someone who played since 2016, this game was with me through almost all of highschool and i can only hope the new vanilla version revives the game at least a little bit bc i cant wait for it to come out
"Blade and soul isnt what you remember" It's still a p2w shell of a game, so yes, it is what I remember. People just got smart and learned to leave now, lol.
NCSoft destroyed our beloved Blade and Soul with cash grabs and microtransactions, even the cosmetics became in the gambling boxes at the mercy of RNGs, I really feel so sad cuz it is my favorite mmorpg and I played it since the beta back in November 2015.
if u think devs is the only fault why this game going bad...u just wrong...the playerbase play their part too for this game going bad...many cheaters and botters...not to mention so many toxic despite the playerbase so small for mmo
They already killed it back in 2016 with the first p2w shop bullshit like a month after release lol... Very sad because this is probably the most unique MMO I've ever played with actually very creative solutions and features that I've never seen in MMOs eversince..
I wonder why they even mentioned Blade and Soul NEO Classic if they didn't have anything even close to ready for folks to try out. Sometimes I wish these companies would keep news like that to themselves until a demo is 6 months out or something.
Holy crap my reddit post made it into the video XD Sigh, I know the game is declining... Which is a shame because ith has IMO the best storyline out of any MMORPG I played. But I have abandonement issues and I will not drop the game till it goes down. Even if I'm the last player standing :P I'm just gonna goof around in game till that happens XD
Now i remember why i quit, was a grindy player and i got to a point where if you dont spend money, you dont progress, no matter how much time you put into it, such a shame, also the UE update was the final nail in the coffin.. the character (which was one of the main selling points) look horrible.. downloaded again years later to find the same, and not to account the game always had problems of optimization.. i5 8500 with a 1660ti for getting barely 30Fps on some maps/ cities (moving to EU5 was a horrible move since the optimization problem just got worse)
played this on release was fun first martial arts game experience just mere walking gave goosebumps how your character will jump over obstacles with stile loved my kungfu master was even first game i bothered doing pvp cause it was so fun to break peoples necks xD spent tons of times farming those jades for wheel of fortune costumes sadly as soon as i reached end game and hit grind wall that was where i stopped!tried coming back few times but sheer volume of cash shop stuff they throw at your face kinda set me off from trying anymore
How many hours of content ended up being pointless because gear was made useless due to the vertical progression? That's why I quit the game. The effort put in was negated by vertical progression.
They need to change the bussiness model and lauch a completly different game with new graphics but keeping the good points of the game i though that game could revolition the mmos but they kill the game
The issue then is their definition of the word "improving" seeing as they don't know what that means and it shows by the numbers, they decided that the only way to unfuck the game with 0 pinpoint precision is to reset it to classic.
i miss the times when the early pirate arc felt like the most difficult and nerve-racking dungeon-type experience. the pvp too, it was so both amazing and cutthroat
This was my favourite MMO by far. I was hyped when i saw it in Korea, and i was addicted when it came out. I played it for 3 years, and returned every few months because the combat was so amazing, and the leveling was great as well at the start. The dungeons and the boss mechanics were hard af, and i had my very first bigger social interaction with raiding with a guild. This MMO gave me so much great memories, im really grateful for that. And even if the textures are scuffed, i think overall the game looks great. My issue was that the progression as a f2p player was really slow, and i was bored in the repeat of 4 daily dungeon for rewards, so i quited after like the 3rd raid came out. After 8 years, i still have the full Fire BM rotation on my fingers :D It's sad to think about a potential shutdown.
I also loved the dungeons and raids…I was able to get into a big guild and had many raids, from the 24-man to 12 man raids. We even wiped out many times at the first boss at the Black Tower (the first 24-man raid), dodges lasers at the Red and Blue bosses, and learned to tank the Raven King while rotating and dying to the “pizza” 😂. It was hard af and it took us many months to get to Julia. I saved a ton of money and got a super awesome material for my weapon! Missed those times!
@@tuongchu2867 Black Tower was my first raid experience too, such wild memories wyping so many times to the red and blue boss, never managed to beat it until the nerf lol The mechanics in general in that game were really well done, the solo dungeons were really great too, the bosses there were as hard as the harder tier of souls like bosses nowadays!
@@Pohatarunic6 haha, tanking the red and blue boss was so hard. I remember all my teammates died and we were 5% left from defeating the red boss, so I had to tank with my 30k dps on my summoner XD
@@tuongchu2867 For us it was just that one person always messed up on the switch platforms and we always wyped lol though I do remember me having to be one of the ranged tanks too for some reason, even if was fully f2p so my dps was probably wasn't as good haha
The algorithm must've known I just talked about this game with my gf lol. I was showing her old screenshots for nostalgia. Mostly because Blade and soul / League I had so many pictures from experiences with friends. She also had pictures of when she played! Apparently we were on the same server and never knew it. I hit top 25 on my server on my assassin. I put so many hours in. Mushins tower was incredible when it released. Floor 8 was also a really nice challenge and I still remember Po Hwa rans initial release. It was all so lively and we had tons of clan members that were really active. I cant remember the name of the one clan pvp event but that one was actually really solid and offered really nice materials /upgrades for people who played often. The p2w definitely killed it off. All of it. The world pvp/ clan battles died off so fast. All the people who stayed up all night grinding mushins, world bosses, world pvp, on TOP of daily quests, were now being passed by people simply paying for it. Especially with how RNG dependent the upgrades were. It was just annoying to see them completely kill off the dedicated playerbase. World PVP and events died off so quickly with the cash shop changes. But seeing this video still gave me nostalgia. I hope we get a oldschool version honestly. I would probably come back for a while. Really good video that hit it home on the main issues!
The only reason I stopped playing was because I couldn't miss the money anymore. Found out I spend 50 dollar a week on that game without me noticing. It's powering up your gambling addiction without getting a form of real reward. Now I'm stuck with 1000 of cosmetics for no one to see. Glad I stopped 2 years ago. Always came back for the storyline but after that, it's bye game. Same goes for tower of fantasy. Cool story. Hate the spendwall to get a bit strong in the game. The strongest person in B&S is Elon Musk, Bernard Arnault or Jeff Bezos because they just own the most money in the world. Don't even have to be good at the game if you are max gear.
What hurt me the most was how PVP outside of arena-- was wholly whale territory too. That just hurt me so much I left. NCsoft clearly cares more about money than supporting legit games. Loved the theme, loved the gameplay-- but end game and fairness is all about money. So forget that. Still I miss my Kung Fu master and Warden >< Gon Bad asses kicking ass
I've played the game since launch. Over all the game has not changed that much but now it's become a grind vs playing the game and enjoying the story. Most people log in to do the daily and to grind for mats to get new gear. Very little story if any. Have seen a lot of people leave the game but a few low or new players have joined.
The amount of fun I had playing this game was unparallel. I have been searching for a game that would this fun but alas ! I haven't found any. Throne liberty and Blue Protocol were my last hope. but that seem to dwindling as well. Blade and Soul was peak fun, Action Combat MMORPG. Made lost of friends, had lots of fun. Man, how I wish it was better optimized, so that I could continue playing.
loved blade and soul, still do. just can't get myself back into it. played since launch and loved it, i quit not long after that producer quit like after 3rd anniversary. loved that guy he was cool
Once upon a time Blade and Soul was my favorite mmo. I had lots of fun playing it as a force master, but it was killed slowly but surely. The Treasure Trove was a leading factor which led to grind walls just to keep up with the the whales and be allowed to do raids. Combine with lack of communication and rising clan toxicity and you have people leaving in mass.
it's true that it's fun the first week but over time you'll get tired very quickly of playing a game that doesn't evolve. I take the case of Shattered empire especially since they have had the intelligence to create several servers on the Europe server there are 50 people daily so we might as well stay on the official one even if it's P2W
Came back to this game in October 23, I’ll admit the change isn’t awful (soulboost I’m more speaking on here) it doesn’t feel as stressful to feel the need to level quickly, as someone that doesn’t pay to the game often ( only ever on trove sometimes )
I spent a week wondering why my character was so weak after main story lvl 60 HM17 and why it was so difficult gaining needed items to upgrade, then I finally found a 2 week old UA-cam video pointing out soul boost rewards in the top right corner. I filled my inventory with upgraded items and went from 1m dps to 92m-122m dps which lets you get to the end game content without relying on marketplace or endless expensive upgrades. I can't believe how long it took me to figure that out, but returning players from many years ago please check your soul boost rewards for the love of God.
to those people thinking about playing or make a comeback...my words is DONT DO IT...game right now in terrible state...so many cheaters and botters..not to mention the playerbase getting worse despite having small playerbase...cheaters boosting their ranks and stuffs...the blade and soul glory era is over for years...
Mee too. I used to not like Black Dessert because BNS had a powerful and really good pvp and pve content. Remember the 24 man party? Yeah!!! But i turned into BDO later on.
Funny how my fondest memory of BNS is Russian pirate server long before official EU server. I think it was pirated Chinese beta that people improved and hosted. Had older combat system without different "routs"/combat styles and broken stance for blade master (the one with flying swords, C hotkey I believe). Was so much fun!! And then official Ru server release without any quests in pre-lvl45 areas and no grind just killed all the enjoyment. So sad
Now i remember why i quit, was a grindy player and i got to a point where if you dont spend money, you dont progress, no matter how much time you put into it, such a shame, also the UE update was the final nail in the coffin.. the character (which was one of the main selling points) look horrible.. downloaded again years later to find the same, and not to account the game always had problems of optimization.. i5 8500 with a 1660ti for getting barely 30Fps on some maps/ cities (moving to EU5 was a horrible move since the optimization problem just got worse)
i didn't play the game for years and when i just logged in, i don't recognize it... a bunch of loot in my mailbox that is so OP compared to what i had... all monsters are one-shotted... what the hell is that?=)))
such a pity , I flirted with the game for a bit , great potential , clean up items , clean up the story , great character customization , great combat and NCsoft could have a real world beater
so should i start playing B&S again? since i already have an account. I played for hours everyday for a year and then just stopped because as a free player it was so slow to improve stats... doesn't help that i picked warlock which was like the worst class. haven't played in a couple of years
Blade and Soul can't be saved anymore, not matter what they do. Neo Classic might gather nostalgic and hopeless people to try it out, but I don't have hopes for that one either, they will fuck up the combat (I'm calling this out rn) and It will have some weird ass subscription system like Aion classic to make You progress or You won't. Ncsoft completely fell off, their only game alive is Guild Wars 2 and it's not even developed by them lmao . Guild Wars 3 hype btw
This makes me sad Blade and Soul is one of my favorite games of all time but I stopped playing the the game stopped performing. After one of the expansions it just started lagging and skipping constantly and that’s when I stopped.
The problem with bns is its reliance on ping. If u don't get a good ping Ur basically losing a lot of dps and throughout all this years the company has never fixed or make the ability to enhance vindictus has almost none of the issue compare to bns
i remember back when i was in higschool i tried so hard to play the game that i need to play on china & hongkong server and when i finally play on stable server i reach the point where the p2w has gone too far
I remember when the game started going down the hill on 2019... Lots of friends started to understand the new patch was ptw all over and new players were gonna find it difficult to progress if not for adding cash on the shop wither for gems, and other stuff. I really miss the game and the grinding system it had, pvp was fun and useful for materials, raids were immersive and mechanics made sense... You had fun on discord on its peak years. Why don't they change companies and bring the old bns essence? All the shop items are killing the game.
I think I stopped playing in 2018? The game had gotten so pay to win that my clan was basically like, "if you're not sinking at least 200 bucks a month into this game to upgrade your shit, you can just leave." It was nuts. All of my favorite people left because they literally *could not afford to play this game* at that level. It's such a shame because I still hold this game up as the pinnacle of what a good MMO plays like because I've never played anything like it. It will forever be my one true love of MMOs and I'm sad that corporate greed and toxic P2W a-holes ruined it.
Blade and Soul at its core is a great game, character customizations are just insane af, storyline is nice, the progression is "not really" fair (until Demonsbane), combat is very responsive (i have never seen any MMO come close ever since), the boss mechanism since Serpent's Den even til recent KR Demonsbane dungeon is really really interesting and fun to watch. But all the decisions made by NCSoft killed it, first of all was the huge, unhinged update post Moonwater Plains (what they called was Big Revolution Update?) in 2017/2018 which kill half of the playerbase (also because of the weird decision on putting a lot of non-linear changes to SEA (Garena) this killed almost the entire playerbase there) second was the amount of powercreep items added into Treasure Trove (I do understand that post Demonsbane this is fair because a huge jump in difficulty) that makes the pay2win become more and more obvious than ever. and the final pin on the coffin was to introduce 3rd specs and starting to optimize post Scarlet Controversy/Steelbreaker Soul Badge to make all the classes become more and more PvE centric, effectively kills PvP itself, tho this was not that impactful because at that time players already lost interest in PvP (A little bit before UE4 update), at this point only people who either paid a lot of money or still loves the combat system remains left which is just outright sad. Now they are coping on Neo Classic which is right before the Revolution update (sure they do know where they messed up) but all the decisions on monetization during closed beta making people prefer the live version for some reasons. (there is no shot you wanna pay to get access to Auction House and only getting limited daily locked Diamonds out of it)
But Korea is the country of MMO wtf anyways BaS is completly dead I wish that the bussiness game was differnt the story would be anoher thing a big sales game cause the experience that gave that game was amazing if it was a suscription mode or something I would love to pay them in 2016 instead of p2w model
No, the video for copyright struck for using in-game music so I had to let UA-cam auto remove the background music to keep the video live.. and it messed with the audio. It’s only the first 3 minutes though!
It's not in open beta it's cbt2 and it ends on the 15th of this month, it will go into open beta rumored to be from 28th of this month to 5th of May according to some Chinese friends. While Neo Classic is developed by the KR dev team Tencent are the ones funding Neo Classic hence why the lack of info/beta in KR and the West, in a live stream they said they plan to release Neo globally in Spring so fingers crossed we should have Neo here in the West by early June.
I played blade and soul the first year when the game was actually good before they started with the p2w stuff that's basically after the first year of it's release it's sad what they did because the game hade do much potential in the start but they ruined the game after a year I guess they tried to wait for a year before adding the p2w stuff to see if people will stick around after the change since people played the game for a year
You use bad metrics to gauge the games life. But your channel is blocking a lot of words so i can't even mention the popular community platform that every game uses nowdays, where there's tons more people talking than the forum website you showed in the video.
Loved Blade and Soul back in the day, haven't played it in years. I really enjoyed solo and group content but the game had two very bad flaws: Elitism and Vertical Progression. This elitism was caused by both the Devs and the player base. Unless you had the best gear, you weren't invited to groups. Then, there was literally no point in grinding for gear because with each expansion, the gear because useless. Therefore, the best use of my time was spent not grinding for gear but leveling up alts, because I can get all the old gear easily after a few expansions. Then, if it was constantly a game of catch-up, then there was no point in playing since no one played the old content. Classic BNS won't fix the problem. Switching to a horizontal progression will allow casuals entry into new content and make the game worth playing. I'm not going to grind away my life for gear that will be replaced in a few months.
how do games still fuck up the whole pw2 issue, when gw2 is right there, gw2 is the perfect shop, it has quality of life items in the shop along with items that give you an advantage in some way, but you can easily grind the gold to buy it through gem exchange. They have the perfect formula right infront of their face and they still manage to fail xD
It's so sad to see that what I used to consider the best MMORPG I've ever played back then, turn into a 90% cash shop items/battle passes, and 10% reused content/events It's been about 5 years since I stopped playing the game (time flies by so fast) and it's sad to see that things got even worse than how they were back then, and the game became just a cash grab and nothing else 😢😭
im so sad man this game was the first mmo i ever played and its still my favourite mmo ive ever played the combat is still the best in mmo space. seen this video and was hoping they pulled the finger out their ass and done something guess not. Guess we wait for neo and pray it lives up to the hype (it wont......)
Bns need to look at gw2 in terms of contents for the players. Game is amazing but lack of content for players. Most of the time you see ppl just afk coz there isn’t much of I do.
Yea there's a limit on how much you can push f2p players to spend some money. A battlepass, cosmetics and services are what most games do, but on BnS they introduced so many cash systems and near unlimited upgrades so quickly that people were pushed hard to spend to do the content and the difference between a whale and a F2P was miles apart, it was a complete joke considering this is a game not a casino and F2P players and low spenders are the majority of it.
For people wondering about the audio: I was using background music taken from Blade & Soul and they decided to copyright strike the video. The only way to resolve this was to remove the background music from the first 3 minutes of the video, which distorted my voice. I apologize for this but there's nothing I can do about it. I've used background music from Blade & Soul dozens of times in dozens of videos, but apparently this time it was not okay.
Games needs a Reset. I still reminisce of the days playing this game with my friends, the combat and dungeons were soo good
yeah but that absolutely horrendous outfit drop rate is just cancer, i wouldn't want to do all that again
reset? welcome to bns neo classic! lol
@@bopiangM which will release in like 5 years at this point
@@ehyzen already released in china, tried it. Graphics updated and few key differences , such as all, all field boss drop costumes incl the frog and pot dog boss in bamboo area
@@ehyzen bro its literally out in china. cross your fingers for US server 2025
It saddens me to see Blade and Soul in its current state :(
When Passion gets replaced with Greed. Truly a sad sad end for this game.
You and me both. I loved this game.
Tell Boss K I miss him :d
We all loved this game once and it's so sad to see where it's been going over these years.
It's sad to see pso2 in its current state too. Glad they brought back phantasy star episode 3 tho 😊
I would 100% grind it out again if they had a classic release. The dopamine from farming naryu sanctum for days to finally get the bracelet drop and changing your rotation entirely. The dodging and i frames are so insane.
Its almost empty??? I remenber they push the p2w so Hard that i feel like puke.....
Yeah.. it's crazy how bad the game is these days.
@@MMOByte i use to love this game alot, i play it every Day, the raids where fun and full of People, now is Just p2w and dps check.....
Yeah, one of the reasons I stopped playing
@@MMOBytethere are still people there...
@@Naturel-e5e people still play?
I think what killed it for me was the over reliance on cash shop, more specifically the Treasure trove. Add on the lack of developer communication with the community, the "sequel" being a mobile game and overall just lack of content. Neo classic might pull some old fans like me back in but I'm not going to hold my breath.
Now i remember why i quit, was a grindy player and i got to a point where if you dont spend money, you dont progress, no matter how much time you put into it, such a shame, also the UE update was the final nail in the coffin.. the character (which was one of the main selling points) look horrible.. downloaded again years later to find the same, and not to account the game always had problems of optimization.. i5 8500 with a 1660ti for getting barely 30Fps on some maps/ cities (moving to EU5 was a horrible move since the optimization problem just got worse). If they fixed those things and move to a less p2w monetization could lead to a resurrection of the game.. another example of company greed killed this amazing game..
@@kishi8774 Yeah, I think when I hit the point that my next weapon upgrade would take literally playing 3-4 hours daily on different accounts, doing the most efficient dailies, then funneling that back to my main for 4 months straight was when I dropped it. It was that or pay nearly $200 in the cash shop. If you were doing end game raids the game really hit a point where it was like "either live in this game to still fall behind updates" or "pay a large chunk of your monthly income each month to barely keep up". Which was sad because I've never loved an MMO as much as this one.
I have extremely fond memories of playing this game for hours upon hours and when I see it now it just feels like a hollow shell of it’s former self.
The day they introduce Treasure Trove is the day B&S died for me.
Totally understandable.
This is around the time I quit as well, I vaguely remember them hosting live streams where they talk about how excited they are to share their new p2w features and tried to convince us all that we should be excited too and how great it was going to be.
to be fair the asian servers had the treasure trove before the US version even released. But I too wasnt a fan of it regardless
Now i remember why i quit, was a grindy player and i got to a point where if you dont spend money, you dont progress, no matter how much time you put into it, such a shame, also the UE update was the final nail in the coffin.. the character (which was one of the main selling points) look horrible.. downloaded again years later to find the same, and not to account the game always had problems of optimization.. i5 8500 with a 1660ti for getting barely 30Fps on some maps/ cities (moving to EU5 was a horrible move since the optimization problem just got worse)
I think it was when raid systems were introduced for me. It was cool at first but trying to get the equipment you wanted from it was rough when there was like 3 random drops and a bunch of people that need certain drops. It got tough to study up on the new bosses every update too and get used to their very specific mechanics.
Every time Mr Styx says *"Cash Shop Items"* take a shot!!
I don’t have enough drinks 😂
It’s all they care about!
@@MMOByte for sure
@@MorningstarGX not sure anyone has 😂😂
Came to the comments to say something like this! Lol.
They probably killed the most interesting game I've ever seen so far. I played for 10 years WoW high level, the first time I discovered B&S I was mindblown, before the p2w system.
That's a litterally total preposterous shame. They found a way to turn a diamond into an amazingly frustrating shit.
I played when it first came out. I was a Berserker or whatever uses the big axe/hammer. But I remember some class with a flower companion was wrecking everyone in PvP much easier.
Oh yeah ah remember the fucking summoner that was the healer on pve but in pvp that class was literrally broken no one can kill that shit except by the destroyer I always play against a good summoner I lost nothing to do with my Blade cancer for more that i made perfect combos
Publishers manage to kill games, huh? I remember Skyforge and B&S were actually super fun at some point
i downloaded bns for the first time in a while (after a lot of grief - the launcher says it only needs 50gb to dl but actually needs 100gb and doesnt tell you that - just fails the dl and doesnt tell you whats wrong if you dont have storage) and was extremely disappointed to open the game and not see a single other player in the old hotspots... super sad to see as someone who played since 2016, this game was with me through almost all of highschool and i can only hope the new vanilla version revives the game at least a little bit bc i cant wait for it to come out
"Blade and soul isnt what you remember"
It's still a p2w shell of a game, so yes, it is what I remember. People just got smart and learned to leave now, lol.
NCSoft destroyed our beloved Blade and Soul with cash grabs and microtransactions, even the cosmetics became in the gambling boxes at the mercy of RNGs, I really feel so sad cuz it is my favorite mmorpg and I played it since the beta back in November 2015.
if u think devs is the only fault why this game going bad...u just wrong...the playerbase play their part too for this game going bad...many cheaters and botters...not to mention so many toxic despite the playerbase so small for mmo
They already killed it back in 2016 with the first p2w shop bullshit like a month after release lol... Very sad because this is probably the most unique MMO I've ever played with actually very creative solutions and features that I've never seen in MMOs eversince..
I wonder why they even mentioned Blade and Soul NEO Classic if they didn't have anything even close to ready for folks to try out. Sometimes I wish these companies would keep news like that to themselves until a demo is 6 months out or something.
I've spent so many hours enjoying this game!
Great dungeons, pvp, game mechanics, graphics and fashion. Rest in peace B&S, you will be missed 😭
Holy crap my reddit post made it into the video XD
Sigh, I know the game is declining... Which is a shame because ith has IMO the best storyline out of any MMORPG I played. But I have abandonement issues and I will not drop the game till it goes down. Even if I'm the last player standing :P I'm just gonna goof around in game till that happens XD
Heck yeah man!! I still play old games even if they’re dying! As long as you’re having fun that’s all that matters!
2021 was last time I played. My girl and i wanted to get back into it but we were really hesitant.
Did you play for very long?
Me too.
we broke up XD
Stopped playing in 2020, tried it again in 2022 to see if it's better but it's even worst than when I left it.
do it its still really fun
played 2016-2018 good times, now just wasteland ruined by p2w
Yup. I played until 2020, then gave up.
Now i remember why i quit, was a grindy player and i got to a point where if you dont spend money, you dont progress, no matter how much time you put into it, such a shame, also the UE update was the final nail in the coffin.. the character (which was one of the main selling points) look horrible.. downloaded again years later to find the same, and not to account the game always had problems of optimization.. i5 8500 with a 1660ti for getting barely 30Fps on some maps/ cities (moving to EU5 was a horrible move since the optimization problem just got worse)
played this on release was fun first martial arts game experience just mere walking gave goosebumps how your character will jump over obstacles with stile loved my kungfu master was even first game i bothered doing pvp cause it was so fun to break peoples necks xD spent tons of times farming those jades for wheel of fortune costumes sadly as soon as i reached end game and hit grind wall that was where i stopped!tried coming back few times but sheer volume of cash shop stuff they throw at your face kinda set me off from trying anymore
Still love blade and soul even in 2024. Will keep playing the game.
Is it dead?
@@ThisGuy-up9ndit’s not dead, I see a lot of new players coming in again because of the soul boast plus feature
@@ye8rwhat new player?? those just alt account lol 😂😂😂...the game literally bots and cheaters everywhere
How many hours of content ended up being pointless because gear was made useless due to the vertical progression? That's why I quit the game. The effort put in was negated by vertical progression.
@@ye8r im not gonna hate but its nowhere near as popping as it was around 2016-2017 energy
I played this game last year for about 5 minutes, then uninstalled.
Yup.. it’s in a sad state.
Same
this is one title that doesn't need a classic. classic wasn't that great. it needs to keep improving, not going backwards.
Yup. Dunno what they’re thinking.. other than dollar signs.
They need to change the bussiness model and lauch a completly different game with new graphics but keeping the good points of the game i though that game could revolition the mmos but they kill the game
The issue then is their definition of the word "improving" seeing as they don't know what that means and it shows by the numbers, they decided that the only way to unfuck the game with 0 pinpoint precision is to reset it to classic.
Nah actually I liked BnS much more how it was in 2016-17
@@davidparada5332 facts. Give us the old hardcore game :(
i miss the times when the early pirate arc felt like the most difficult and nerve-racking dungeon-type experience. the pvp too, it was so both amazing and cutthroat
It's a shame cause I really miss the combat in this game.
They killed my game
This was my favourite MMO by far. I was hyped when i saw it in Korea, and i was addicted when it came out. I played it for 3 years, and returned every few months because the combat was so amazing, and the leveling was great as well at the start. The dungeons and the boss mechanics were hard af, and i had my very first bigger social interaction with raiding with a guild. This MMO gave me so much great memories, im really grateful for that. And even if the textures are scuffed, i think overall the game looks great.
My issue was that the progression as a f2p player was really slow, and i was bored in the repeat of 4 daily dungeon for rewards, so i quited after like the 3rd raid came out.
After 8 years, i still have the full Fire BM rotation on my fingers :D It's sad to think about a potential shutdown.
I also loved the dungeons and raids…I was able to get into a big guild and had many raids, from the 24-man to 12 man raids. We even wiped out many times at the first boss at the Black Tower (the first 24-man raid), dodges lasers at the Red and Blue bosses, and learned to tank the Raven King while rotating and dying to the “pizza” 😂. It was hard af and it took us many months to get to Julia. I saved a ton of money and got a super awesome material for my weapon! Missed those times!
@@tuongchu2867 Black Tower was my first raid experience too, such wild memories wyping so many times to the red and blue boss, never managed to beat it until the nerf lol The mechanics in general in that game were really well done, the solo dungeons were really great too, the bosses there were as hard as the harder tier of souls like bosses nowadays!
@@Pohatarunic6 haha, tanking the red and blue boss was so hard. I remember all my teammates died and we were 5% left from defeating the red boss, so I had to tank with my 30k dps on my summoner XD
@@tuongchu2867 For us it was just that one person always messed up on the switch platforms and we always wyped lol though I do remember me having to be one of the ranged tanks too for some reason, even if was fully f2p so my dps was probably wasn't as good haha
@@Pohatarunic6 good times, i hated crossing the lasers so much!
They somehow fucked up the once BEST action/pvp based game. Amazing...
so many memories I had with friends back in the summers of 2016-2017 that i'll never be able to relive. they burnt the hell out of this game ):
The algorithm must've known I just talked about this game with my gf lol. I was showing her old screenshots for nostalgia. Mostly because Blade and soul / League I had so many pictures from experiences with friends. She also had pictures of when she played! Apparently we were on the same server and never knew it.
I hit top 25 on my server on my assassin. I put so many hours in. Mushins tower was incredible when it released. Floor 8 was also a really nice challenge and I still remember Po Hwa rans initial release. It was all so lively and we had tons of clan members that were really active. I cant remember the name of the one clan pvp event but that one was actually really solid and offered really nice materials /upgrades for people who played often.
The p2w definitely killed it off. All of it. The world pvp/ clan battles died off so fast. All the people who stayed up all night grinding mushins, world bosses, world pvp, on TOP of daily quests, were now being passed by people simply paying for it. Especially with how RNG dependent the upgrades were.
It was just annoying to see them completely kill off the dedicated playerbase. World PVP and events died off so quickly with the cash shop changes. But seeing this video still gave me nostalgia. I hope we get a oldschool version honestly. I would probably come back for a while.
Really good video that hit it home on the main issues!
The only reason I stopped playing was because I couldn't miss the money anymore. Found out I spend 50 dollar a week on that game without me noticing. It's powering up your gambling addiction without getting a form of real reward. Now I'm stuck with 1000 of cosmetics for no one to see. Glad I stopped 2 years ago. Always came back for the storyline but after that, it's bye game. Same goes for tower of fantasy. Cool story. Hate the spendwall to get a bit strong in the game. The strongest person in B&S is Elon Musk, Bernard Arnault or Jeff Bezos because they just own the most money in the world. Don't even have to be good at the game if you are max gear.
What hurt me the most was how PVP outside of arena-- was wholly whale territory too. That just hurt me so much I left. NCsoft clearly cares more about money than supporting legit games. Loved the theme, loved the gameplay-- but end game and fairness is all about money. So forget that. Still I miss my Kung Fu master and Warden >< Gon Bad asses kicking ass
I feel like most people who wanted to continue this game have flocked to private servers.
More cash shop items.
More cash shop items.
More cash shop items.
More cash shop items.
Blade and Cash Shop Items.
LMAO truth.
that define the game cash shop item and toxic whale players
next vid: MMO in 2024.. is NOT What You Remember :9
Lets update the game with steady releases and milk players with more outfits
NO! WE WANT TO FOCUS ON THE SHORT TERM PROFIT
And thats BnS roadmap
Asian MMOs in a nutshell.
when i go to the official website it says last update feb 2023 lol?
I've played the game since launch. Over all the game has not changed that much but now it's become a grind vs playing the game and enjoying the story. Most people log in to do the daily and to grind for mats to get new gear. Very little story if any. Have seen a lot of people leave the game but a few low or new players have joined.
The amount of fun I had playing this game was unparallel. I have been searching for a game that would this fun but alas ! I haven't found any. Throne liberty and Blue Protocol were my last hope. but that seem to dwindling as well.
Blade and Soul was peak fun, Action Combat MMORPG. Made lost of friends, had lots of fun. Man, how I wish it was better optimized, so that I could continue playing.
Anod no P2W that kill the game Black desert s the only that is similar in the gameplay
loved blade and soul, still do. just can't get myself back into it. played since launch and loved it, i quit not long after that producer quit like after 3rd anniversary. loved that guy he was cool
Once upon a time Blade and Soul was my favorite mmo. I had lots of fun playing it as a force master, but it was killed slowly but surely. The Treasure Trove was a leading factor which led to grind walls just to keep up with the the whales and be allowed to do raids. Combine with lack of communication and rising clan toxicity and you have people leaving in mass.
Private servers are the fun stuff for old players, at least made me play it again
it's true that it's fun the first week but over time you'll get tired very quickly of playing a game that doesn't evolve. I take the case of Shattered empire especially since they have had the intelligence to create several servers on the Europe server there are 50 people daily so we might as well stay on the official one even if it's P2W
and I'm not even talking about PvP which is like the official one, that is to say no PvP, no point in staying on such a lazy server
@@Naturel-e5e Agree, but most of the times, the returning player doesn't returns to stay, just to scratch that itch, so private s. does the job
Hi. What about now? Is it still the same status or is it good to come back to the game now?
The only way to play this game is by getting mortgage loan the p2w is unbelievable
whales, elitism, greed killed the game. A lot of us still wish we could play
Came back to this game in October 23, I’ll admit the change isn’t awful (soulboost I’m more speaking on here) it doesn’t feel as stressful to feel the need to level quickly, as someone that doesn’t pay to the game often ( only ever on trove sometimes )
I spent a week wondering why my character was so weak after main story lvl 60 HM17 and why it was so difficult gaining needed items to upgrade, then I finally found a 2 week old UA-cam video pointing out soul boost rewards in the top right corner. I filled my inventory with upgraded items and went from 1m dps to 92m-122m dps which lets you get to the end game content without relying on marketplace or endless expensive upgrades. I can't believe how long it took me to figure that out, but returning players from many years ago please check your soul boost rewards for the love of God.
Man I miss the glory days of blade and soul. One of the best games at its peak
to those people thinking about playing or make a comeback...my words is DONT DO IT...game right now in terrible state...so many cheaters and botters..not to mention the playerbase getting worse despite having small playerbase...cheaters boosting their ranks and stuffs...the blade and soul glory era is over for years...
Thanks for reminding cause I have a plan to download it now HAHAHAHA
Blade and soul was my mmo before Black Dessert… I don’t think I can go back
You’re not missing anything!
Mee too. I used to not like Black Dessert because BNS had a powerful and really good pvp and pve content. Remember the 24 man party? Yeah!!! But i turned into BDO later on.
P2W in the purest form, the worst MMO out there.
Funny how my fondest memory of BNS is Russian pirate server long before official EU server. I think it was pirated Chinese beta that people improved and hosted. Had older combat system without different "routs"/combat styles and broken stance for blade master (the one with flying swords, C hotkey I believe). Was so much fun!!
And then official Ru server release without any quests in pre-lvl45 areas and no grind just killed all the enjoyment. So sad
I miss this game so much. I wish I could play it again with the hype it had a couple of years ago.
Now i remember why i quit, was a grindy player and i got to a point where if you dont spend money, you dont progress, no matter how much time you put into it, such a shame, also the UE update was the final nail in the coffin.. the character (which was one of the main selling points) look horrible.. downloaded again years later to find the same, and not to account the game always had problems of optimization.. i5 8500 with a 1660ti for getting barely 30Fps on some maps/ cities (moving to EU5 was a horrible move since the optimization problem just got worse)
i didn't play the game for years and when i just logged in, i don't recognize it... a bunch of loot in my mailbox that is so OP compared to what i had... all monsters are one-shotted... what the hell is that?=)))
such a pity , I flirted with the game for a bit , great potential , clean up items , clean up the story , great character customization , great combat and NCsoft could have a real world beater
so should i start playing B&S again? since i already have an account. I played for hours everyday for a year and then just stopped because as a free player it was so slow to improve stats... doesn't help that i picked warlock which was like the worst class. haven't played in a couple of years
Blade and Soul can't be saved anymore, not matter what they do. Neo Classic might gather nostalgic and hopeless people to try it out, but I don't have hopes for that one either, they will fuck up the combat (I'm calling this out rn) and It will have some weird ass subscription system like Aion classic to make You progress or You won't. Ncsoft completely fell off, their only game alive is Guild Wars 2 and it's not even developed by them lmao . Guild Wars 3 hype btw
I reinstalled the game and tried a regular daily and got one shot twice, im trying to find when did they change the difficulty, a y ideas?
bns in 24 is stellar blade and nikke as shift up did work on this game
This makes me sad Blade and Soul is one of my favorite games of all time but I stopped playing the the game stopped performing. After one of the expansions it just started lagging and skipping constantly and that’s when I stopped.
I miss B&S. ❤ I’ve had so much fun with this game, so many years ago. I don’t even remember what the end game was back when I played.
The problem with bns is its reliance on ping. If u don't get a good ping Ur basically losing a lot of dps and throughout all this years the company has never fixed or make the ability to enhance vindictus has almost none of the issue compare to bns
It has been a nice experience for sure, makin AMV with friends and even short stories on BnS!
i remember back when i was in higschool i tried so hard to play the game that i need to play on china & hongkong server and when i finally play on stable server i reach the point where the p2w has gone too far
Just finished the anime and really enjoyed it! So was kinda hoping the game would be great too
I remember when the game started going down the hill on 2019... Lots of friends started to understand the new patch was ptw all over and new players were gonna find it difficult to progress if not for adding cash on the shop wither for gems, and other stuff. I really miss the game and the grinding system it had, pvp was fun and useful for materials, raids were immersive and mechanics made sense... You had fun on discord on its peak years. Why don't they change companies and bring the old bns essence? All the shop items are killing the game.
I think I stopped playing in 2018? The game had gotten so pay to win that my clan was basically like, "if you're not sinking at least 200 bucks a month into this game to upgrade your shit, you can just leave." It was nuts. All of my favorite people left because they literally *could not afford to play this game* at that level. It's such a shame because I still hold this game up as the pinnacle of what a good MMO plays like because I've never played anything like it. It will forever be my one true love of MMOs and I'm sad that corporate greed and toxic P2W a-holes ruined it.
When Blade and Soul Neo drops would you cover that too? Kinda hoping this game makes a comeback. Loved the vibe, just too dead to do anything.
Dude i swear Blade and soul had so much potential even if i was p2w.
Blade and Soul at its core is a great game, character customizations are just insane af, storyline is nice, the progression is "not really" fair (until Demonsbane), combat is very responsive (i have never seen any MMO come close ever since), the boss mechanism since Serpent's Den even til recent KR Demonsbane dungeon is really really interesting and fun to watch.
But all the decisions made by NCSoft killed it,
first of all was the huge, unhinged update post Moonwater Plains (what they called was Big Revolution Update?) in 2017/2018 which kill half of the playerbase (also because of the weird decision on putting a lot of non-linear changes to SEA (Garena) this killed almost the entire playerbase there)
second was the amount of powercreep items added into Treasure Trove (I do understand that post Demonsbane this is fair because a huge jump in difficulty) that makes the pay2win become more and more obvious than ever.
and the final pin on the coffin was to introduce 3rd specs and starting to optimize post Scarlet Controversy/Steelbreaker Soul Badge to make all the classes become more and more PvE centric, effectively kills PvP itself, tho this was not that impactful because at that time players already lost interest in PvP (A little bit before UE4 update), at this point only people who either paid a lot of money or still loves the combat system remains left which is just outright sad.
Now they are coping on Neo Classic which is right before the Revolution update (sure they do know where they messed up) but all the decisions on monetization during closed beta making people prefer the live version for some reasons. (there is no shot you wanna pay to get access to Auction House and only getting limited daily locked Diamonds out of it)
Where is the gameplay?
I can’t seem to play the game anymore ever since I moved to Korea… 😢
But Korea is the country of MMO wtf anyways BaS is completly dead I wish that the bussiness game was differnt the story would be anoher thing a big sales game cause the experience that gave that game was amazing if it was a suscription mode or something I would love to pay them in 2016 instead of p2w model
What a shame, this game was the best mmo i ever played, it had everything raids dungeons pvp factions pvp arena battlegrounds solo challenges etc
new mic? the audio quality is different here.
No, the video for copyright struck for using in-game music so I had to let UA-cam auto remove the background music to keep the video live.. and it messed with the audio. It’s only the first 3 minutes though!
im excited for bns neo classic china is doing there open beta on it right now i think but it's almost done i also think i'm excited
also toontown
It's not in open beta it's cbt2 and it ends on the 15th of this month, it will go into open beta rumored to be from 28th of this month to 5th of May according to some Chinese friends. While Neo Classic is developed by the KR dev team Tencent are the ones funding Neo Classic hence why the lack of info/beta in KR and the West, in a live stream they said they plan to release Neo globally in Spring so fingers crossed we should have Neo here in the West by early June.
Is it Playable till now the blade and soul?
Just make neo subscription based and remove the cash shop and there you have it. Perfect mmorpg right there
When it came out the game was fantastic but now Its all about money,cash shop and the toxic whale players
When was the last time YOU played Blade & Soul?
I played blade and soul the first year when the game was actually good before they started with the p2w stuff that's basically after the first year of it's release it's sad what they did because the game hade do much potential in the start but they ruined the game after a year I guess they tried to wait for a year before adding the p2w stuff to see if people will stick around after the change since people played the game for a year
mb I missed it definitely watching it when I get home
You use bad metrics to gauge the games life. But your channel is blocking a lot of words so i can't even mention the popular community platform that every game uses nowdays, where there's tons more people talking than the forum website you showed in the video.
I played for about 3 years, so it's been 5 years now 😢
Last month. 1 time but performance is crap and feeled boring in the first few level. And the stamina bar alone running out of combat suck
I thought BnS closed down like Tera. I'm going to re download this tomorrow.
credit and soul , debt & soul etc...
"More Cash Shop Items"
MORE CASH SHOP ITEMS! Because that’s all that matters. Milk those whales!
Loved Blade and Soul back in the day, haven't played it in years. I really enjoyed solo and group content but the game had two very bad flaws: Elitism and Vertical Progression. This elitism was caused by both the Devs and the player base. Unless you had the best gear, you weren't invited to groups. Then, there was literally no point in grinding for gear because with each expansion, the gear because useless. Therefore, the best use of my time was spent not grinding for gear but leveling up alts, because I can get all the old gear easily after a few expansions. Then, if it was constantly a game of catch-up, then there was no point in playing since no one played the old content. Classic BNS won't fix the problem. Switching to a horizontal progression will allow casuals entry into new content and make the game worth playing. I'm not going to grind away my life for gear that will be replaced in a few months.
how do games still fuck up the whole pw2 issue, when gw2 is right there, gw2 is the perfect shop, it has quality of life items in the shop along with items that give you an advantage in some way, but you can easily grind the gold to buy it through gem exchange. They have the perfect formula right infront of their face and they still manage to fail xD
I can't played bns on my computer anymore on my with my current hardware can't remember the last time i played bns.
It's so sad to see that what I used to consider the best MMORPG I've ever played back then, turn into a 90% cash shop items/battle passes, and 10% reused content/events
It's been about 5 years since I stopped playing the game (time flies by so fast) and it's sad to see that things got even worse than how they were back then, and the game became just a cash grab and nothing else 😢😭
if they do properly optimization i will fully go back xD if i get 120 stable fpses on highest graph. set.
They just dished out a 80% playerbase ban for NA and EU, so there's like 30 players left playing now lmfaoooo
Blade and shop is exactly as I remember it.
2 types of players in BNS, those who don't spend $200 a week on their P2W and those that do. 😑
PTW as last year?
im so sad man this game was the first mmo i ever played and its still my favourite mmo ive ever played the combat is still the best in mmo space.
seen this video and was hoping they pulled the finger out their ass and done something guess not. Guess we wait for neo and pray it lives up to the hype (it wont......)
Bns need to look at gw2 in terms of contents for the players. Game is amazing but lack of content for players. Most of the time you see ppl just afk coz there isn’t much of I do.
Me: So what did I miss on BnS
Stix: More cash shop items
😂😂😂
Lmao.. pretty much all they care about.
This game was so fun back in the day😢
Yea there's a limit on how much you can push f2p players to spend some money. A battlepass, cosmetics and services are what most games do, but on BnS they introduced so many cash systems and near unlimited upgrades so quickly that people were pushed hard to spend to do the content and the difference between a whale and a F2P was miles apart, it was a complete joke considering this is a game not a casino and F2P players and low spenders are the majority of it.
When Stella Blade release I realize about this game very similar
Lmao I was expecting a gameply to see if I download the game, but ok