Sometimes even in general search and normal mode which is a step up from sensitive extra can be exhausting. Digging deep targets and sometimes with shale in the ground I never find the target. It’s a vacuum but be prepared to dig and in trash areas you will find nails
I used Search Mode General and Soil Timings set to Normal when I was trying out the GPX 5000 with the 11" DD coil that came with it. Of course, this was the first time I used it so I don't know if that was the best setting for that particular ground. I also used the same settings when I started using the 15" Detech Ultimate Spiral Coil. I did dig a lot of nails and wire, but I had grown accustom to the sounds at that point. After doing some research and talking to some other relic hunters that use the GPX 5000 I found that they were doing great with the basic setting I show on this video. That's not to say one is better than the other. As you know there's a lot of settings on the GPX detectors and it's doubtful if anyone has found the "best" settings for every situation. I'd suspect that a lot of different settings will work sucessfully on most of the ground we detect; given that the detectorist understands what he's listening for and what the sounds are telling him. Digging deep targets is the whole idea of using the GPX; that is deep targets or targets masked by very difficult and magnatized soil. I rarely quit on a signal unless I'm really pressed for time. I feel it's very important to find out exactly what made you make a decision to dig. It can help you figure out what may be causing false or misleading signals. I've dug a few hot rocks that gave great signals at depth and I've found a lot of very tiny pieces of lead or iron that was very shallow. Sometimes these tiny targets will cause you to pull your hair out; especially the ones that have fallen back into the hole and has a tendency to want to do that often. Also, I've gotten a very good signal and searched until I was ready to quit and found out that it was a tiny target that was still in the sod. Here's and example. suppose the target can only be detected say 2" deep. If when you flip your sod over, it's 6" tall overall, then when you go over the sod turned upside down, you don't pick up the signal. If the sod is very close to the hole, you may be picking up the signal in the clod thinking it is still in the hole. I've had this happed to me many times. Also, I've chased signals many times only to find out that I had miss pinpointed them and the good target was inches away from the side of the hole. Sometimes, this happens when you take your eye off of the spot you pinpointed or if you just got hasty and didn't pinpoint as good as you should have. Many factors are involved tht can cause the signals to disappear. The GPX detectors are not designed to work well in trashy areas; you will definitely find many nails and small iron. What do you have your Iron Reject set at? Having this set too low will cause you to dig many more iron targets. I was digging many more nails when I use an Iron Reject set to 3-5. Once I started using 8, I found that I was digging more good targets than bad. Plus, there is a distinctive difference in the sound of a nail and a lead bullet. Sometimes, when I'm not doing very well, I'll make myself believe that a bad sounding target is a good one. The old saying is true: "you can make a bad target sound good, but you can't make a good target sound bad".
@@SavingLocalHistory First thank you Larry for all the time and effort into my post. As always you are so helpful and I love your videos. The GPX has brought out targets I could not find with my Equinox 600 and is very stable in mineralized soil. I have been running my iron reject on 7-8 but mostly 7. I have made every mistake you have mentioned, target in the clod of soil but guess what I am still digging, am digging in the wrong area when I should be over a few inches one way or the other or pulling my hair out over the tiny scrap metal I dug up almost a foot in the ground. I also have found may wonderful things as well so not all bad. I listen for the low-high tones and high-low tones. Many a nail or old iron have solid stable sounds and you have to dig through them. I know when I have the reject at 8 , I am digging a lot less junk. Your last sentence about making a bad target sound good and vice versa is so true. I have owned the GPX for 3 months and the learning curve is real but it can have you digging to China. I can remember digging up some old era carbine casings about 15 inches deep the other week. No doubt the machine is giving me good signals but sometimes you feel like you are digging forever to find them. The machine hears everything. I think it s just going to take more practice, keep watching your videos and also to know that the GPX is not right for every situation. Larry, thanks a million for your efforts and thank you
Thanks. It took some time to put it together given I had so much techincal trouble that day. I've still got a lot to learn but I'm working on it. I really don't feel I was quite ready to make a "how to" video on the GPX 5000 but I hate to leave the people hanging that had asked me about my settings. Maybe I'll get a litlle more experience with it and do another more informed video with more live digs soon. I really like you videos; you do an excellent job. Thanks so much for watching.
Good video, and good points. But just today, I was out with my GPX but I took my Equinox 800 along, I always take 2 detectors, and Im glad I did. This place I was at about a month ago and found some bullets and other relics, went back today with intentions of using the GPX for deeper relics, but since I had been there a month ago, the farmer had put cattle in the field and had an electric fence on today, rendering using my GPX a terrible frustrating waste of time. After an hour of fighting that pulsating emi with no good finds, I switched to my Equinox and within an hour I dug a dropped 3 ringer at 8 inches, a brass knapsack piece and 2 pieces of camplead. Just goes to show you not to put all of your eggs in one basket. Had that fence not been on, I think I could have found more and deeper targets, but as it was, I am happy to have found what I did. Im in East Tennessee, but our soil is highly mineralized here as well. Good job on the bullets and spencer casings! My settings are similar to yours, but I have the GPX 4800 and some of the parameters for the settings are different.
I've still got a lot to learn, but I'm trying. I know what you are talking about when you mentioned the electric fence. I've encountered that many times. A lot of times, if I can get in touch with the farmer, they will turn the fence off for me or tell me how to turn it off. I always keep 3 or 4 detectors with me as well. That site I recently detected has a crazy triangle of EMI that seems to converge on the best section of this site. I don't know exactly where all of it is coming from but it's like the Devil's Triangle of metal detecting. For some reason, the EMI is nearly silent on Sundays and the hunting is much easier. I love finding bullets; especially on sites that have been "hunted out". Thanks for your comment and for watching.
@@SavingLocalHistory i am curious how much depth is lost when switched to cancel? Also cant rem if iron reject is lost when in cancel?. I know quite a few spots directly under large power lines and my gpx has a fit....
Good Job! GPX 5000 is a very deep machine, and very good on mineralized soil, but is very heavy and with a very poor discrimination. My friend of mine use it with DD and mono coil. With mono is deeper but no discrimination... Is a very good machine on clean sites with no trash!
Thanks. The GPX 5000 will definitely pickup targets that are very deep. Pulse detectors were designed to be able to handle the mineralized ground that is often found in the gold fields. When someone learned that they work well on relics in mineralized ground as well it open up a new door for relic hunters. The weight is just a part of the electronics and battery required to make the detector perform in many adverse conditions. I always use the Minelab Pro Swing 45 harness and I can go all day without much problem. Overall, I think the descrimination is very good; especially on the more shallow iron targets but you have to set the Iron Reject accordingly. The best descrimination ,on a tone only detector, is usually between our ears. After a while, you can often distinguish the difference in the sound of a good target vs a bad one. Notice I said often; not always. I've only used the DD coils but plan to try out the mono coil that came with it one of these days. The GPX 5000 is definitly not the machine to use on very trashy sites. That's where you use you VLF detectors. If it's a productive site and you've worked it over good with your other detectors, you've probably removed much of the trash as well. Now's the time to go back with the GPX 5000 and find the "good" stuff. At least, that's the main reason I bought the GPX; that and to detect a few sites I've found that is in very mineralized ground. So far, it's really paid off, but maybe not enough yet to justify the cost. Thanks for watching Luca and good luck to you in your detecting endevours.
@@SavingLocalHistory Thanks Larry! The problem with gpx, and the others pulse machines, is discrimination: it is effective only in the first few inches, on deep targets it becomes very inaccurate. Many deep signals are often nails, especially in good fields for relic hunting, where there are also many many nails or small pieces of iron. I agree with what you say, "better to go first with a VLF and then go over with the GPX!" Happy hunting!
@@LucaEnrico That's very true, but the pulse technology hasn't got to that point where they can discriminate very well yet; it many not be possible. I've dug quite a few nails and pieces of wire and small iron, but I've also dug over 225 Civil War bullets thus far and I've not detected with the GPX 5000 that much yet. At this point in time, if we truly want to find the deeper relics, we have no choice but to dig some deep trash. I bought my GPX 5000 as a clean-up detector and to detect the sites that have been hunted to death. The funny part is, that we don't have to detect the well hunted sites that much with the VLF detectors because others have already been done for us. We get to show them what they missed. Happy hunting to you as well. Thanks for the great analysis in your comment as well.
Thanks. I was truly lucky to have found that spot. It took a lot of research and was very difficult to work out the permission but it paid off lately. This is the first year I have ever saw it this clear. I believe there was a much bigger heard of cattle in there than before. It will all be grown up again soon and off limits. I may get to go back one more time this Spring. The places that have been hunted a lot often hold the best relics until all the easy ones have been found. In this partricular case with the GPX 5000, the iffy signals were strong signals. Using any of the VLF detectors I've owned and currently own didn't do very well on this site. The soil on most of the site is very mineralized and actually very magnetic for some odd reason. On top of that, there are 3 EMI sources that seem to converge in one area of the site. It's very hard to use any detector there. The GPX was noisy, but it sniffed out a lot of lead. The end of the site with all the trees shocked me a few years ago. I found 12 bullets almost on top of the ground. The ground was exceptionally hard and apparently had been that way when the soldiers were in there. Most of the bullets were only a couple of inches deep. Like you, I'd like to find more sites that look like a golf course to detect but they don't happen very often. Good luck with all your detecting and thanks for watching.
I am really looking forward to Nokta Makro getting an affordable Pulse Induction unit to market (maybe in 2023 Dilek said). These are expensive machines, and some competition should help move the pricing down to more reasonable levels. Thanks!
A lighter, cheaper, good pulse detector would shake up the industry for sure. I hadn't heard Nokta Makro was working on it. Thanks for letting me know and thatnks for watching.
I really enjoyed your video Larry. I recently bought a new GPX 5000 and used it on the DIV 51 hunt. I don't have the Detech 15" coil. How do you like it? It sure looks like it pinpoints the target very well.
I'm glad you liked it. Congratulations on you GPX 5000 purchase. I've not had mine that long, but I've been amazed at what I have found with it already. I really love the Detech 15" Ulitimate Spiral Coil. Of course I don't have anything else to compare it to. I only used the stock coil a couple of times but didn't like it because it wasn't waterproof. The Detech 15" coil is heavy, but it's seems very light if you use the Minelab Pro Swing 45 harness. Thanks for watching.
Hello Mr. Larry What is the best coil for the GPX 5000 to get the largest possible depth to search for burials and gold, not to search for coins thank you sir
I don't have any experiecnce searching for coins that small, but I'd think that the GPX will detect much deeper than any of the VLI detectors. Sorry I can't offer more information. Thanks for watching.
No, not completely. Shallow iron can be tuned, for the most part, by setting the Iron Reject to 8 or higher. I don't know of anyway to completely isolate the iron from the nonferrous relics. But, I'm no expert with this machine. I know enough to get by. Maybe someone else on here can give you a more deteailed answer. Thanks for the question and for watching.
very good video. Have you tried the new Detech 18 coil. It weighs only 950 gr and can be. I'm thinking of buying it since the detech 15 leaves my arm and back in tatters. I am very happy with it but every time I use it it destroys me
Thanks. Which Detech 18" coil are you talking about? There's so many different coils available for the GPX series detectors. Do you use a harness when you detect with the GPX? I use the Minelab Pro Swing 45 Harness and I can detect all day without noticing any back or arm issues. Of course, I hurt so much almost all the time that I'd probaly never notice anyway or be able to honestly blame the coil or detector. I think most of my aches and pains are caused by age, mileage and overuse If you've not tried a harness, you're missing out on a lot of detecting; it's well worth the cost. To answer you question, I have only used the 11" DD coil that came with the GPX 5000 and the 15" Detech Ultimate Spiral Coil. Thanks so much for watching.
Sometimes even in general search and normal mode which is a step up from sensitive extra can be exhausting. Digging deep targets and sometimes with shale in the ground I never find the target. It’s a vacuum but be prepared to dig and in trash areas you will find nails
I used Search Mode General and Soil Timings set to Normal when I was trying out the GPX 5000 with the 11" DD coil that came with it. Of course, this was the first time I used it so I don't know if that was the best setting for that particular ground. I also used the same settings when I started using the 15" Detech Ultimate Spiral Coil. I did dig a lot of nails and wire, but I had grown accustom to the sounds at that point.
After doing some research and talking to some other relic hunters that use the GPX 5000 I found that they were doing great with the basic setting I show on this video. That's not to say one is better than the other. As you know there's a lot of settings on the GPX detectors and it's doubtful if anyone has found the "best" settings for every situation. I'd suspect that a lot of different settings will work sucessfully on most of the ground we detect; given that the detectorist understands what he's listening for and what the sounds are telling him.
Digging deep targets is the whole idea of using the GPX; that is deep targets or targets masked by very difficult and magnatized soil. I rarely quit on a signal unless I'm really pressed for time. I feel it's very important to find out exactly what made you make a decision to dig. It can help you figure out what may be causing false or misleading signals. I've dug a few hot rocks that gave great signals at depth and I've found a lot of very tiny pieces of lead or iron that was very shallow. Sometimes these tiny targets will cause you to pull your hair out; especially the ones that have fallen back into the hole and has a tendency to want to do that often. Also, I've gotten a very good signal and searched until I was ready to quit and found out that it was a tiny target that was still in the sod.
Here's and example. suppose the target can only be detected say 2" deep. If when you flip your sod over, it's 6" tall overall, then when you go over the sod turned upside down, you don't pick up the signal. If the sod is very close to the hole, you may be picking up the signal in the clod thinking it is still in the hole. I've had this happed to me many times. Also, I've chased signals many times only to find out that I had miss pinpointed them and the good target was inches away from the side of the hole. Sometimes, this happens when you take your eye off of the spot you pinpointed or if you just got hasty and didn't pinpoint as good as you should have. Many factors are involved tht can cause the signals to disappear.
The GPX detectors are not designed to work well in trashy areas; you will definitely find many nails and small iron. What do you have your Iron Reject set at? Having this set too low will cause you to dig many more iron targets. I was digging many more nails when I use an Iron Reject set to 3-5. Once I started using 8, I found that I was digging more good targets than bad. Plus, there is a distinctive difference in the sound of a nail and a lead bullet. Sometimes, when I'm not doing very well, I'll make myself believe that a bad sounding target is a good one. The old saying is true: "you can make a bad target sound good, but you can't make a good target sound bad".
@@SavingLocalHistory First thank you Larry for all the time and effort into my post. As always you are so helpful and I love your videos. The GPX has brought out targets I could not find with my Equinox 600 and is very stable in mineralized soil. I have been running my iron reject on 7-8 but mostly 7. I have made every mistake you have mentioned, target in the clod of soil but guess what I am still digging, am digging in the wrong area when I should be over a few inches one way or the other or pulling my hair out over the tiny scrap metal I dug up almost a foot in the ground. I also have found may wonderful things as well so not all bad. I listen for the low-high tones and high-low tones. Many a nail or old iron have solid stable sounds and you have to dig through them. I know when I have the reject at 8 , I am digging a lot less junk. Your last sentence about making a bad target sound good and vice versa is so true. I have owned the GPX for 3 months and the learning curve is real but it can have you digging to China. I can remember digging up some old era carbine casings about 15 inches deep the other week. No doubt the machine is giving me good signals but sometimes you feel like you are digging forever to find them. The machine hears everything. I think it s just going to take more practice, keep watching your videos and also to know that the GPX is not right for every situation. Larry, thanks a million for your efforts and thank you
hi Larry love your video ive just got my GPX5000 on the start up first good luck to you Mel from the UK
Thanks. I'm glad I could help. I hope to be back detecting soon; I've had some setbacks. Good luck to you as well.
Excellent Video Larry thanks for sharing it.
Thanks. It took some time to put it together given I had so much techincal trouble that day. I've still got a lot to learn but I'm working on it. I really don't feel I was quite ready to make a "how to" video on the GPX 5000 but I hate to leave the people hanging that had asked me about my settings. Maybe I'll get a litlle more experience with it and do another more informed video with more live digs soon. I really like you videos; you do an excellent job. Thanks so much for watching.
Good job with the GPX Larry I enjoy your videos and good Luck to you.
Thanks Jimmy. I'm still very much a rookie with this detector, but I'm learning. Thanks for watching.
Busy day for sure.. guess you got your exercise anyway.. thanks for sharing...
Yeah, I really got a work out that day. Thanks for watching.
I really enjoyed your video
Glad you enjoyed it and thanks so much for watching.
Good video, and good points. But just today, I was out with my GPX but I took my Equinox 800 along, I always take 2 detectors, and Im glad I did. This place I was at about a month ago and found some bullets and other relics, went back today with intentions of using the GPX for deeper relics, but since I had been there a month ago, the farmer had put cattle in the field and had an electric fence on today, rendering using my GPX a terrible frustrating waste of time. After an hour of fighting that pulsating emi with no good finds, I switched to my Equinox and within an hour I dug a dropped 3 ringer at 8 inches, a brass knapsack piece and 2 pieces of camplead. Just goes to show you not to put all of your eggs in one basket. Had that fence not been on, I think I could have found more and deeper targets, but as it was, I am happy to have found what I did. Im in East Tennessee, but our soil is highly mineralized here as well. Good job on the bullets and spencer casings! My settings are similar to yours, but I have the GPX 4800 and some of the parameters for the settings are different.
I've still got a lot to learn, but I'm trying. I know what you are talking about when you mentioned the electric fence. I've encountered that many times. A lot of times, if I can get in touch with the farmer, they will turn the fence off for me or tell me how to turn it off. I always keep 3 or 4 detectors with me as well. That site I recently detected has a crazy triangle of EMI that seems to converge on the best section of this site. I don't know exactly where all of it is coming from but it's like the Devil's Triangle of metal detecting. For some reason, the EMI is nearly silent on Sundays and the hunting is much easier. I love finding bullets; especially on sites that have been "hunted out". Thanks for your comment and for watching.
@@SavingLocalHistory i am curious how much depth is lost when switched to cancel? Also cant rem if iron reject is lost when in cancel?. I know quite a few spots directly under large power lines and my gpx has a fit....
Good Job! GPX 5000 is a very deep machine, and very good on mineralized soil, but is very heavy and with a very poor discrimination. My friend of mine use it with DD and mono coil. With mono is deeper but no discrimination... Is a very good machine on clean sites with no trash!
Thanks. The GPX 5000 will definitely pickup targets that are very deep. Pulse detectors were designed to be able to handle the mineralized ground that is often found in the gold fields. When someone learned that they work well on relics in mineralized ground as well it open up a new door for relic hunters.
The weight is just a part of the electronics and battery required to make the detector perform in many adverse conditions. I always use the Minelab Pro Swing 45 harness and I can go all day without much problem.
Overall, I think the descrimination is very good; especially on the more shallow iron targets but you have to set the Iron Reject accordingly. The best descrimination ,on a tone only detector, is usually between our ears. After a while, you can often distinguish the difference in the sound of a good target vs a bad one. Notice I said often; not always.
I've only used the DD coils but plan to try out the mono coil that came with it one of these days.
The GPX 5000 is definitly not the machine to use on very trashy sites. That's where you use you VLF detectors. If it's a productive site and you've worked it over good with your other detectors, you've probably removed much of the trash as well. Now's the time to go back with the GPX 5000 and find the "good" stuff. At least, that's the main reason I bought the GPX; that and to detect a few sites I've found that is in very mineralized ground. So far, it's really paid off, but maybe not enough yet to justify the cost.
Thanks for watching Luca and good luck to you in your detecting endevours.
@@SavingLocalHistory Thanks Larry! The problem with gpx, and the others pulse machines, is discrimination: it is effective only in the first few inches, on deep targets it becomes very inaccurate. Many deep signals are often nails, especially in good fields for relic hunting, where there are also many many nails or small pieces of iron.
I agree with what you say, "better to go first with a VLF and then go over with the GPX!" Happy hunting!
@@LucaEnrico That's very true, but the pulse technology hasn't got to that point where they can discriminate very well yet; it many not be possible. I've dug quite a few nails and pieces of wire and small iron, but I've also dug over 225 Civil War bullets thus far and I've not detected with the GPX 5000 that much yet. At this point in time, if we truly want to find the deeper relics, we have no choice but to dig some deep trash. I bought my GPX 5000 as a clean-up detector and to detect the sites that have been hunted to death. The funny part is, that we don't have to detect the well hunted sites that much with the VLF detectors because others have already been done for us. We get to show them what they missed. Happy hunting to you as well. Thanks for the great analysis in your comment as well.
Good video wish i could find place looks like golf course i have found out when place has been hunted a lot thats when you have dig all iffy signals.
Thanks. I was truly lucky to have found that spot. It took a lot of research and was very difficult to work out the permission but it paid off lately. This is the first year I have ever saw it this clear. I believe there was a much bigger heard of cattle in there than before. It will all be grown up again soon and off limits.
I may get to go back one more time this Spring. The places that have been hunted a lot often hold the best relics until all the easy ones have been found. In this partricular case with the GPX 5000, the iffy signals were strong signals. Using any of the VLF detectors I've owned and currently own didn't do very well on this site. The soil on most of the site is very mineralized and actually very magnetic for some odd reason. On top of that, there are 3 EMI sources that seem to converge in one area of the site. It's very hard to use any detector there. The GPX was noisy, but it sniffed out a lot of lead.
The end of the site with all the trees shocked me a few years ago. I found 12 bullets almost on top of the ground. The ground was exceptionally hard and apparently had been that way when the soldiers were in there. Most of the bullets were only a couple of inches deep.
Like you, I'd like to find more sites that look like a golf course to detect but they don't happen very often. Good luck with all your detecting and thanks for watching.
I am really looking forward to Nokta Makro getting an affordable Pulse Induction unit to market (maybe in 2023 Dilek said). These are expensive machines, and some competition should help move the pricing down to more reasonable levels. Thanks!
A lighter, cheaper, good pulse detector would shake up the industry for sure. I hadn't heard Nokta Makro was working on it. Thanks for letting me know and thatnks for watching.
hello,l like and follow you, youare amazing.
Thanks and thanks so much for watching.
I really enjoyed your video Larry. I recently bought a new GPX 5000 and used it on the DIV 51 hunt. I don't have the Detech 15" coil. How do you like it? It sure looks like it pinpoints the target very well.
I'm glad you liked it. Congratulations on you GPX 5000 purchase. I've not had mine that long, but I've been amazed at what I have found with it already. I really love the Detech 15" Ulitimate Spiral Coil. Of course I don't have anything else to compare it to. I only used the stock coil a couple of times but didn't like it because it wasn't waterproof. The Detech 15" coil is heavy, but it's seems very light if you use the Minelab Pro Swing 45 harness. Thanks for watching.
Hello Mr. Larry
What is the best coil for the GPX 5000 to get the largest possible depth to search for burials and gold, not to search for coins
thank you sir
The only coil I'm familiar with is the 15" Detech Spiral Coil. I'd say a large Mono Coil would be best.
Coiltek 22"mono coil is best for your gpx 5000
nice , i m from Pakistan
Thanks and thanks so much for watching.
Hello, how deep can go for small coin (like denar)?
I don't have any experiecnce searching for coins that small, but I'd think that the GPX will detect much deeper than any of the VLI detectors. Sorry I can't offer more information. Thanks for watching.
Can I isolate the iron in the GPX5000?
No, not completely. Shallow iron can be tuned, for the most part, by setting the Iron Reject to 8 or higher. I don't know of anyway to completely isolate the iron from the nonferrous relics. But, I'm no expert with this machine. I know enough to get by. Maybe someone else on here can give you a more deteailed answer. Thanks for the question and for watching.
very good video. Have you tried the new Detech 18 coil. It weighs only 950 gr and can be. I'm thinking of buying it since the detech 15 leaves my arm and back in tatters. I am very happy with it but every time I use it it destroys me
Thanks. Which Detech 18" coil are you talking about? There's so many different coils available for the GPX series detectors. Do you use a harness when you detect with the GPX? I use the Minelab Pro Swing 45 Harness and I can detect all day without noticing any back or arm issues. Of course, I hurt so much almost all the time that I'd probaly never notice anyway or be able to honestly blame the coil or detector. I think most of my aches and pains are caused by age, mileage and overuse If you've not tried a harness, you're missing out on a lot of detecting; it's well worth the cost. To answer you question, I have only used the 11" DD coil that came with the GPX 5000 and the 15" Detech Ultimate Spiral Coil. Thanks so much for watching.
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