Wet Sanding & Advanced Polishing: E1- Jason Killmer on Basics of Sanding
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- Опубліковано 15 жов 2024
- "To sand or not to sand? That is my question."
KXK Dynamics and I work through a video series discussing more advanced sanding and polishing techniques. Jason Killmer, generally regarded as the best wet sander in the world, and Andy Ward, also known as Proficient X, made the trip to OGHQ to drop some knowledge on me.
In this episode, I explain the series and Jason introduces us to sanding.
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Extremely impressed with Jason’s technique and understanding of this process. You don’t see many people of this caliber these days. Seems like a really good teacher. Good series Matt
Jason is the man! He is one of the best I have ever trained with. Love this series too.
Privileged to observe Jason teach at Chicago Auto Pros Detail Clinic. He's an incredible teacher. Also very humble and down to earth. The real deal!
Super informative. It’s rare to see someone who has incredible skills, deep experience and the ability to articulate not only exactly what they’re doing but why.
Oh boy am i going to like this series. Jason is so passionnate and knowledgeable.
I'm definitely looking forward to this series. Lots to be learned here, and Jason really seems to know his stuff.
Thanks Matt for taking the time to put this video together !
you're definitely aligning with all the right people. Esoteric/Todd, KXK and Jason, keep up the good work. It's also sort of crazy in a de-ja-vu way how my journey into higher levels of detailing is taking a very similar path to yours.
What a great perspective on wet sanding. It sounds like he has a wealth of knowledge.
"There's no such thing as off camera at Obsessed Garage, Jason"......F'in GOLD!
Ha, ha...
Just started watching this series and this has for sure been one of the best-detailing series out on the web. The knowledge and skills that are laid down by Jason Killmer and Andy Ward is nothing less than amazing. Thank you, Matt, for hosting Jason and Andy and sharing their knowledge with all of us, very powerful stuff!
Thanks for watching man!
Jason is the man! You are truly the best there is!
Wow this guy is a genius! Great job Jason!
Love what you are doing with your videos Matt. Thank you for sharing the knowledge and helping educate us all!
Dam! Jason is a beast, the fact that he can not look in and see how you're sanding just by listening is insane! Breaks this down so a DIY car detailer enthusiast like myself can remove some of the fear of taking sand paper to my car if I needed to. Still scared though, need to find a busted up hood to work on.
Great to see true innovators and leaders of the industry on here. Can't wait to see the rest if the series.
I pinch myself everyday with the access I now have to the best of the best.
I feel like I've stumbled on diamonds with this series, thank you so much. Exactly the videos I've been after for about 2 years since I got into wetsanding! This knowledge CANNOT be found anywhere else!
These guys are super legit!
Watching Jason wet sanding and watching his process makes you wet sand your car for no reason :))) 👍
All jokes aside these videos with Jason are very useful and inspirational. Thank you
So much to learn, great vid, love it
Ok. Thanks. My guess is the ability to define scratches by grit comes with experience. To better understand what I’m dealing with I’ll often use my 10x Jeweller’s Loupe to get a good look at the finer characteristics of the scratch. It’s amazing what you can see.
extremely insightful, highly recommend watching on 1.25 or 1.5 speed, however, doesn't detract from the information at all but saves a lot of time.
TheDruxlol why take a shortcut? Tell me what you did with all the time you saved by speeding the video up?
i didn't waste my time with a sassy reply on a month old comment that was trying to help people.
Awesome video, I’m looking forward to the rest of the series. Thanks for sharing Matt.
Wow. Fantastic. Jason. Masterful for sure. And you and your instruction are easy to follow and understand
How can you thumbs down this? These guys are great.
Finally found this damn vid, these is where I first seen Jason Kilmer, god came and put on human suit to show us what colorsanding is.
I thank you Jason. for you sharing all you have acquired through experience
Very interesting series! The best wishes for OGHQ!
This video is PURE GOLD! THANK YOU SO MUCH for sharing
Thanks. Great series. Jason is a serious master of the trade.
Just found you. What a gem of a channel!
Learning from OG while at work 🤫🤫doesn’t get better
Jason is logical,and HUMBLE!!!...HUMBLE!!!!
I am really really glad your doing this I been wanting to know much myself! , wet sanding always been a weird subject with me.
Great series, looking forward to it👌
Craazyyyyy that he let you record .. lol doesn’t he charge for this? This is sick. Jason is a genius at what he does
Great video matt, very informative
Thanks Ken.
Great video Matt! Keep up the great work!
The knowledge and experience Jason has is priceless. Amazing
Yep, he just gave us knowledge it took years and years to hone for free!
Don't overthink everything! hahaha, great video.
Looking forward to this series detailing is so important 👌🏻
i agree. Too many people are skipping content opportunities by saying"ive done this in an older video". There is always room for added tips for improvement.
Jason is truly a wet sanding savant. You should also search out Chris Larson for another perspective
Cheers Matt love the content and great info found in this video.
that guy is very good. Very, very good. It's scary how passionate he is about his occupation.
I'd really like to know how Jason does headlights! Anyway, still watching. Super cool!
OMG IM SOOOO EXCIIIIITED FOR THIS!
Wow that guy knows his shit. Great vid, can't wait to watch more
Thanks for putting this together!
I like the guy explaining to you how to get it done correctly, he is very punctual with his technique 😁
This is very interesting. Thanks so much for sharing !
You never run out of questions.
That's kind of the point here. I ask the questions that people have, and they answer.
Fantastic series Matt. I appreciate that you took the time and effort to do this. You're obviously a very knowledgeable guy, but your humility adds so much the increased level of learning offered by the boys at KXK.
I do have one question for you: I'm still in the process of watching the series, but I wanted to ask you whether Jason provided any "tricks" or guidance (perhaps off-screen) regarding the initial assessment of the "grit level" of a scratch that you're preparing to remove. I know this is a very subjective process, but some rough guidelines would be handy, although I appreciate that having the skill set to do this boils down to experience.
Thanks again.
That's a tricky one. You would want to measure the paint around it, then make an educated decision on how much of the scratch you want to remove. Another test is the finger nail test. If you can feel it with your nail, it's most like not coming out.
Trying to figure out how this video and series doesn't have millions of views per video, like some of Mr. Kosilla's. Sooooo much info in them.
I'm not as likable, and this stuff is a bit too technical for the masses.
Wobbly table. Getting dizzy. BTW, I have a porter cable buffer, an air da, and air buffer, and a mini Milwaukee polisher.. Would it be worth it to step up to Rupes?
Naw. No need honestly. Unless you just want a Rupes.
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS! Wet sanding! Awesome.
Damn that 30 mins went quick. This is such a cool and informative series, cannot wait for the next one. Thank you Jason & Matt for collaborating on this topic.
It was such an awesome 2 days. The info from it is going to be super valuable to all of us.
Love that shirt man, I need to get one. Great video. I live in Orlando so I want to make a trip up to you soon to see OG HQ.
I'll start hosting stuff once I get it set-up.
Can't you wrap the sandpaper around a sponge and get the prefect level instead of using a block ?
Great video. If you have the skill it truly takes paint to the next level. I'd be interested to know Jason's thoughts on ceramic coating vs a wet sanded car and high end wax.
I think he'll cover that later in the series, but if he had his choice, it would be to have nothing on the paint.
Obsessed Garage I guessed as much ! This is a really interesting topic (really appreciate the skills of a purest like Jason)
So before sanding we need to decontaminate the area right? 🤔
Correct
Those aren't typical saw horses you have the hood on. Would you mind sharing what you used? Thanks, Matt.
www.harborfreight.com/200-lb-capacity-portable-work-stand-38778.html
Thanks Jason and Matt, excellent video!!! Matt, will you be selling the rid stix in your store? Your test spot appeared to level the area, what if you want to reduce the scratch and leave the orange peel(texture matching)? Thanks for sharing the knowledge.
Thanks Al
Yes, I will have them at some point. I'll have a sanding package for those that are willing to learn.
What are they trying to accomplish? I don't get the high and low spot thing?
Good info Matt, nice vid
Hey Matt. A bit of a stupid question but, is that one stand holding the hood or two? I’m looking for a decent one to place an hood on. Thank you
It's from Harbor freight. I think it was $15.
Great Stuff Matt! I am excited for this series. You have asked great questions as well. If you don’t mind me asking; what was the price range for a hood at the wrecking yard?
You can get them for betwen $80 - $150, depending on the car and the condition.
I know the guy that owns it, so I paid $20 a hood. Packetattack is right about the $80-$150 normally.
Thanks for the info guys. Turns out I had a free source right under my nose, but if needed that cost isn’t horrible.
Haha I think back at what I've done with a bucket and various wet sandpaper with nothing more than folding it and using my fingers..And I both cringe and laugh.. Less is more. That is the BIG key here. That and we all wish an afternoon had 20 hours in it ;)
Who makes the acrylic sanding blocks?
KXK (the guys in the video are the ones that make them.)
Hammer Down! #sandman 😎
Boom!
Guessing this is the first time “fudge factor” has been mentioned in an OG video.
Excellent bit of education, maybe could do with a camera man to catch the detail.
Love from the uk
Mark
What is the block please?
hi bro can you show, how to sand and polished in small area
So the blocks help uniformity throughout the process?
Definitely
What kind of blocks are those?
What stands do people recommend for practice hoods?
ScanDesign has some great ones.
@@ObsessedGarage thanks matt these are harbour freight right?
Correct
@@ObsessedGarage we need to See The ultimate bonnet stand package :)
The wet sanders , anti sanders and ofc the bernie sanders hahahah
where do we pick up those sanding blocks?
www.carpro-us.com/brushes-bottles-applicator/kxk-dynamics-r-i-d-stix/
What about the larger blocks?
So you put the camera wrong side of the panel all you can see is a huge reflection which stops you seeing anything clever huh?
If it’s not 500 bucks fancy Matt is not in it hahahaha great addiction bro 😂👍🏻 allways quality stuff or you buy multiple times.
Ha... Bling...bling...
Man this video is getting too technical... even tho I am a master wet sander, the presentation of the info is almost fear mongering....
Just get some water, add some soap put it in a spray bottle. (Prevents wet sand paper from clogging) I normally use 1500 (cross hatch sanding) then jump straight to 3000 trizact and then compound, and swirl if need.
Boom done!
For a mirror shine...
1500, 2000, 3000 trizact, 5000 trizact, compound, swirl.
Cross hatch brings the layers down quicker. Sanding in one direction just to be able to buff it out easier is a good way to save product.. but a good detailer should be able to buff out 1500 scratches with compound alone.
I have burned through the layer of clear many times. Only experience will give you the skill to become a master wet sander.
Great video BTW! Just wanted to share some of my detailing knowledge.
Jason Kilmer is generally regarded as the best wet sander in the world.
Looks like your contaminating the panel with same dirty rag... 8:51
Way, way, way beyond my skill set here Matt. I'll work a little harder and pay an expert.
That's super smart. It is why I love learning from these guys. We all get to see to what limits we want to strive.
The hq looks good so far
Where can you get a test hood?
I went to the local u-pull it junk yard.
I also got a connection with a auto body shop when they pull panels off of wrecked cars. Some of them have a little bit of wrinkles/damage to them, but they're free as they were headed into the recycling bin anyways.
OMG!! You keep trying to say control of the block...shut up and listen. 1)not hydroplaning and letting the grit cut 2)being able to follow the flow of the panel lines...not control of the block
🤯
Def thought it said KKK lol
Boilerup05 😂 me too
Lmfao
That guy is kinda sketchy for saying he doesn’t clay bar paint on high end cars if he’s compounding and polish over contamination
PridePinoy101 probably cus his gonna sand it down anyways
Johnny Arakilian What about the paint that he wasn’t sanding and he’s just compounding and polishing over contaminated paint. How would you feel if he was doing that to your paint.
@@PridePinoy101 bro compound removes contaminants what do u mean do you even know what compound does yea maybe u finish your pad alot faster but it still gonna give u same results
Johnny Arakilian Well I guess you don’t hold yourself to high standards of paint correction because you can compound over contaminates but when those get those in your pads, you risk creating pig tails. Guess you just don’t know much about that kind of stuff.
Bro i work in a both shop that’s been done with this step I paint cars on the daily that’s why there’s different steps in buffing compound is gonna leave u some stuff and other steps correct those problems go get ur pigtail outta here pretty sure u heard that from a different video
I closed my restoration shop right before the scamdemic, after nearly 40 years of complete, ultra high-end paint and restoration work. When I started, guys were wet sanding lacquer paint with 600 paper dunked in a coffee can full of lacquer thinner. One of the last cars I completed before closing was a '67 F Body. After completely re skinning the entire body and redoing all the mechanicals, and painting, the owner had over $120,00.00 in it. Even with that level of insanity, I'm not sure even a guy like that would pay me to wet sand his entire car, completely flat, with a domino sized block. Nor, did I have 100 hours to wet sand. Maybe a Ridler car, but the vast majority of customers won't pay $15,000.00 to wet sand and buff an old Firebird.
Jesus Saves
Great video, you're very monotone though
Get out of the way, watch and listen.
Remember your stupid comment on your last sanding video..."it's not rocket science"
Has absolutely NO clue what Jason's talking about regarding highs and lows and movement around them.
I’m lost
4 Minutes of just unnecessary commentary before you even start showing us what you are going to do. Get to the point.
Jason looks and sounds like he's completely stoned
Thought the same thing.
Jason has cerebral palsy.
I could tell he definitely had something with his right arm being the way it is. I wasn't going to saw anything though.
Yeah I later mentioned his right arm and thought of this too
Pretty easy to tell he has cerebral palsy, but that’s not letting it stop him from doing what he loves. To me he’s a genius. His voice reminds me of the comedian josh blue