Seymour was probably the most awkward he could be while eating the lunches. He looked disturbingly cautious like he might be getting a taste of something disgusting. He may be used to it as I would imagine he has consumed a lot of spit and lurgey from disgruntled employees serving him coffee.
If the ACT party believe the provided lunches are so great then all ACT party members should have to eat them for their lunch. I also wonder what the final result will look like and not the servings that were prepared for the photo opp.
we had these suppliers when the program started. We ended up having to cut our orders by 2/3 because children just didnt eat them. Undercooked food, over cooked food, stale rolls and bread. We would provide feedback and nothing changed. our contract finally ended and we chnaged suppliers, our waste has dropped 80% since changing. I can also say that our other local schools have dumped them as a supplier.
@ryanking8960 Although I cannot validate your comment if it is even partially true then Seymour needs to be held 100% accountable for the outcome. To be honest, he and his supporters need to GO!
Yeah, nah, inadequate, and where's the fresh fruit and veg? It's needs to be healthy and nutritious. I challenge Seymour to eat that food every day for a year and then tell us it's acceptable.
So, instead of putting tax dollars into local/small businesses (the people National and ACT apperantly fight for.) They will pour it into big businesses (some of which are foreign-owned) so our tax dollars can be siphoned out of the country... Brilliant. I get you need a certain scale to keep costs. But this seems to be the extreme end of that at the cost of local business and quality. The fact they can't even add frozen veggies to these meals baffles me.
.... Meanwhile "Health NZ managers ate $9000 of canapés as financial crisis loomed By Phil Pennington, of RNZ Mon, Oct 21 Canapes with salmon, cheese and rye bread on skewers!" Well Seymour, chop chop pennies to claim 😐
Last thing-A principal on RNZ was highlighting how much more came out of the current model at their school. Kids grew many of the veges and I think helped prepare them occasionally too, (many, many schools do that now). They also had a good crew of people who cared preparing the meals and catered to kids with allergies and special dietary requirements. The social cost will outweigh his measley savings. Not to mention the international corporation getting it's beak wet. He must be really thick or think everyone else is, right?
It used to be the school lunch money went to support the local community, now it's going to an offshore multinational. Some "saving". And the meals look horrible.
One of the best meals you're gonna have. I think David would be surprised at some of the meals I've eaten. I'm certainly surprised at what David must eat.
"this govt is great at knowing the cost of everything but not the value of anything" so true Chewie, great call! They obviously don't value the contribution to the economy those small businesses used to make
is this $3 a meal just the for costs? or is this taking in logistics as well. All good to have a centralised kitchen but if it's going to cost more to distribute than something locally where is the savings?
@@Emperorvalse if previously it was costing a school $5 freshly made and delivered each day but now will cost them $3 (not fresh) + $3 (delivered 2 days later) who wins? Compass? the school? the kids? the taxpayer?
You can tell by the way that P O S seemore does the rapid eye blink thing that he knows the food is shit, then finishes with ... mmmm delicious , he's such a plastic product !!
My boy gets subway and pita pit at school invercargill. He eats his homemade lunch brings the free stuff home eats it, there not bad plenty of veggies. ( low income school )
Very telling he was expecting to say they were 'okay' but apparently he could award a 9.5 out of 10. The standard will drop over time from the low bar it is set nutritionally and eventually it will be a monster we have to dismantle and resurrect the previous model.
to give you a reference, Wattie's Butter Chicken frozen meals are 250g, Energy 1300.00kJ (311 Calories), whereas their Mac n Cheese is 270g, Energy 2010kJ (480 Calories)
The school I teach at has good lunches, always fresh fruit and veges and some variation. It's sad to see that jobs will be outsourced to foreign big companies instead of keeping it more local and healthy. I don't have the option of posting pics in the comments or I would, they look far better than what is in the video.
it is what I suspected. One of the issues they brought up at the beginning was the level of food not eaten. I can imagine a lot of this stuff won't get eaten. it doesn't inspire me
Just quickly, it seemed as if it is assumed that the food program is available to all primary school students. They are very much not. It is a needs based system which I am not against at all. Just wanted to set something straight. I might quickly google what percentage of students this reaches.
I cook basically the same thing for 2 with stir fried veg about $6 per person thats supermarket prices no power inc but surely they can get it cheaper. If not next big farm or chicken factory sold to off shore interests must be forced to supply a heavily discounted portion to the schooling food system.
@@annemackay-ib4gy Yes they should, just like my parents did, when a family could live on one wage, like in the 60s. But not in today's economic environment. It seems to me if the government is providing school lunches, it an admission that families don't earn enough to have regular meals after paying all other expenses and that's not cigarettes or alcohol as National folk have wheeled out for the last thirty years.
There's always one angry person who thinks kids with bad parents deserve whatever they get and should get no help from the state. These kids are NZ citizens with the same rights as all of us and they are entitled to their meagre benefits. Luxon certainly isn't shy about claiming all the things he believes he is entitled to take from the taxpayer.
For cost comparison, perhaps look at the most comprehensive and long running govt school lunch programme in the world: the USA. It feeds about 30 million kids a day all the way through high school. Cost per student in 2023 was USD ~$3.75 ($17.2 billion in total). That's ~$6.20 in our moneys, let's call it $6 to be generous to the NZ govt. General food costs in the USA are similar or lower to NZ. $3/meal (half the US cost) in NZ seems on the low side. Just as an eyeball comparison. If you want a comparison from a pure weight perspective, a Big Mac burger is 220g. There are plenty of 5-7year old kids who would struggle to eat a whole Big Mac, but some would definitely be scratching around for something else. So a 240g meal for the average young'un sounds pretty good from a quantity perspective. I gotta say though, when McDs first came out in NZ I was still in primary school and a Big Mac, small fries (80g) and small drink didn't quite leave me satisfied. I'd say nutritionally a Big Mac ain't that bad, it's got fresh lettuce and onions in it, pickles, and pure beef patties, and the cheese is OK. The bun has way too much sugar in it, but overall it's better than a packet of twisties. It's fast food, but not quite junk status. I think I could make a 240g butter chicken meal for $3 from supermarket prices, so long as I get the chicken on special, esp looking at the proportion of rice vs sauce vs the actual expensive component: chicken. Quality costs money, and I'm not really sure $3 is quite enough. Probably doesn't need to be $8, but I think $5 would be reasonable.
Maybe the fruit,muesli bars and yogurt will be in next year's budget. I thought Governments were into Macroeconomics not Microeconomics. Anyway it's a sad indictment that children are needing to be fed at school because there's a shortage of food at home.
@@deanspanley4472 - he's not "off beat" and he's not trying to "stir it up", he has an agenda to privatise and deregulate NZ and send the profits to his rich mates overseas and his jokey persona is just a mask.
what a simplistic comment , even middle class families struggling with food costs. get off your high horse , cause you brought a house in 1980 for a few thousand bucks
Not eating slop is woke, apparently
Whatever the menu is should also be the ONLY option at Bellamy.s as well.
Exactly, and perhaps some of these bad decisions are overly influenced by alcohol, so let's cut that out at Ballamies as well.
When has butter chicken become a healthy food option 🤔. Zero veges and usually high in saturated fats.
It's always high in saturated fat, and sometimes, in New Zealand, they put sugar. It's definitely unhealthy .
And rice, it's bulk carbs not a vegetable in sight.
it can be if prepared so, nothing wrong with chicken thigh , it the other sugards and additives
These people are doing exactly what is being done in the u.s and uk. They are stripping out every last vestige of decency left.
Seymour looked like he was trying not to gag on that rissole.
Seymour looks like he thinks he's about to be poisoned 😂😂.
if only.
Seymour was probably the most awkward he could be while eating the lunches. He looked disturbingly cautious like he might be getting a taste of something disgusting. He may be used to it as I would imagine he has consumed a lot of spit and lurgey from disgruntled employees serving him coffee.
tv dinners for learning minds versus the orginal whole food locally prepared
If the ACT party believe the provided lunches are so great then all ACT party members should have to eat them for their lunch. I also wonder what the final result will look like and not the servings that were prepared for the photo opp.
i'll happily send these boys pictures of it when it starts as i work in a school XD
we had these suppliers when the program started. We ended up having to cut our orders by 2/3 because children just didnt eat them. Undercooked food, over cooked food, stale rolls and bread. We would provide feedback and nothing changed. our contract finally ended and we chnaged suppliers, our waste has dropped 80% since changing. I can also say that our other local schools have dumped them as a supplier.
@ryanking8960 Although I cannot validate your comment if it is even partially true then Seymour needs to be held 100% accountable for the outcome.
To be honest, he and his supporters need to GO!
Yeah, nah, inadequate, and where's the fresh fruit and veg? It's needs to be healthy and nutritious. I challenge Seymour to eat that food every day for a year and then tell us it's acceptable.
So, instead of putting tax dollars into local/small businesses (the people National and ACT apperantly fight for.) They will pour it into big businesses (some of which are foreign-owned) so our tax dollars can be siphoned out of the country... Brilliant.
I get you need a certain scale to keep costs. But this seems to be the extreme end of that at the cost of local business and quality. The fact they can't even add frozen veggies to these meals baffles me.
Exactly so. None of that seems to be factored into the "savings".
There's only one rissole in that news clip - the one with the extreme over-bite
Peewee loves a rissole.
Prison food 😂
Get the kids use too it, because this is their future under the Act Party.
Nope. Prison food is far better than this you get real roast chicken with seasonings potatoes peas pumpkin gravy milk and bread twice a week 😅
Oh and a apple pie
.... Meanwhile "Health NZ managers ate $9000 of canapés as financial crisis loomed
By Phil Pennington, of RNZ
Mon, Oct 21
Canapes with salmon, cheese and rye bread on skewers!"
Well Seymour, chop chop pennies to claim 😐
yup...better using that money for millionaires tax cuts...cant have them going without.....
He didn't look that impressed with the taste.
Since the economic"reforms" ofthe 80sand90s its come to this.
From the 84 to the present day it's been a slow but determined process of reducing the standard of living.
The real issue obviously is why in a wealthy country is this needed at all?
Because not everyone is part of that wealth
@@Truth-g7h why in a wealthy nation is the govt cheaping out on school meals?
@@weiweirice2597 that's my point. Worsening inequality. And under this government it will get much worse.
@@Truth-g7h oh my bad haha. Misread your tone
or we could be like france and provide free 3 course meals to all kids.
Hopefully the government leads by example by no more fine cuisine for them aswell they should bulk buy there meals
It looked like Seymour was trying not to throw up in his mouth eating that rissole
Last thing-A principal on RNZ was highlighting how much more came out of the current model at their school. Kids grew many of the veges and I think helped prepare them occasionally too, (many, many schools do that now). They also had a good crew of people who cared preparing the meals and catered to kids with allergies and special dietary requirements. The social cost will outweigh his measley savings. Not to mention the international corporation getting it's beak wet. He must be really thick or think everyone else is, right?
It used to be the school lunch money went to support the local community, now it's going to an offshore multinational. Some "saving". And the meals look horrible.
Check out what french school lunches are like. J Oliver did a thing on English school dinners. The nz ones look horrible. No veg .
Every flavor of Mince and Rice in the rainbow.
That shit looks like dog food. No wonder Seymour loves it.
One of the best meals you're gonna have.
I think David would be surprised at some of the meals I've eaten.
I'm certainly surprised at what David must eat.
"this govt is great at knowing the cost of everything but not the value of anything" so true Chewie, great call! They obviously don't value the contribution to the economy those small businesses used to make
give it to MP's for their meals in parliment every meal that tax payers pay for.
i went to boarding school too, I feel sorry for kids eating this crap. It can't be good for you.
Tax payer, tax payer, tax payer, tax payer and of course the tax payer................
is this $3 a meal just the for costs? or is this taking in logistics as well. All good to have a centralised kitchen but if it's going to cost more to distribute than something locally where is the savings?
It how much Compass will charge at the start of the contract. Each school pays for the transport reheating and serving costs.
@@Emperorvalse if previously it was costing a school $5 freshly made and delivered each day but now will cost them $3 (not fresh) + $3 (delivered 2 days later) who wins? Compass? the school? the kids? the taxpayer?
You can tell by the way that P O S seemore does the rapid eye blink thing that he knows the food is shit, then finishes with ... mmmm delicious , he's such a plastic product !!
Grow up
Do not Compass also supply the Hospital food that got panned.
@@kiwihib Like BHN has said continuously ... seemor and this gov knows the price of everything ... but the value of nothing !!
@@ohnean1 You could see on his face that he wasn't used to eating food like that.
All I read behind his eyes when i saw this was "wtf this is shit"
halal? kosher? vegetarian? elegies?
”If you have allergies then you shouldn't have chosen to be poor” -David Seymour.
@@machematix - or more likely, "allergies are woke"
My boy gets subway and pita pit at school invercargill. He eats his homemade lunch brings the free stuff home eats it, there not bad plenty of veggies. ( low income school )
I wish I had this when i was at school.I didnt have lunch as we were poor as piss.
Very telling he was expecting to say they were 'okay' but apparently he could award a 9.5 out of 10. The standard will drop over time from the low bar it is set nutritionally and eventually it will be a monster we have to dismantle and resurrect the previous model.
He sounded very much like he would have been happy with worse. Maybe he was thinking of cutting another 50c off the cost.
Man they feed the prisoners well In this country
How much is the contract worth and how much did Seymour get
He only did it to line his pocket not for the nz public
to give you a reference, Wattie's Butter Chicken frozen meals are 250g, Energy 1300.00kJ (311 Calories), whereas their Mac n Cheese is 270g, Energy 2010kJ (480 Calories)
Contracts
So 3 meals equals one, that makes 9 as opposed to labors 5= 3× corporate welfare+ malnutrition, go Seymour.
Would love to see a costing breakdown of this.
Schools that want to make their own down to $4.20 from over $6 per meal
can we get an image of the meals currently being supplied? It would be an interesting comparison.
Also be interesting to compare waste.
The school I teach at has good lunches, always fresh fruit and veges and some variation. It's sad to see that jobs will be outsourced to foreign big companies instead of keeping it more local and healthy. I don't have the option of posting pics in the comments or I would, they look far better than what is in the video.
it is what I suspected. One of the issues they brought up at the beginning was the level of food not eaten. I can imagine a lot of this stuff won't get eaten. it doesn't inspire me
I thought butter chicken was an extravagance? At least they said it was back when this was first announced.
Just holding them to their own standards.
whats this ! It looks like something I saw in the toilet ……
Where is the meat being sourced from?
Poor children
Just quickly, it seemed as if it is assumed that the food program is available to all primary school students. They are very much not. It is a needs based system which I am not against at all. Just wanted to set something straight. I might quickly google what percentage of students this reaches.
Schools will not be able to pay staff to prep these meals.
They're made by contractors. Pita Pit is one of our local contractors.
It just sounds cheap and nasty. Even if the lunches taste like shit and Dave gets the runs. He is still going to say they are great lunches
Seeless he should eat this everyday too🫨
I cook basically the same thing for 2 with stir fried veg about $6 per person thats supermarket prices no power inc but surely they can get it cheaper. If not next big farm or chicken factory sold to off shore interests must be forced to supply a heavily discounted portion to the schooling food system.
The parents should be contributing the $3 per child, FIR GOODNESS SAKE
@@annemackay-ib4gy Yes they should, just like my parents did, when a family could live on one wage, like in the 60s. But not in today's economic environment. It seems to me if the government is providing school lunches, it an admission that families don't earn enough to have regular meals after paying all other expenses and that's not cigarettes or alcohol as National folk have wheeled out for the last thirty years.
There's always one angry person who thinks kids with bad parents deserve whatever they get and should get no help from the state. These kids are NZ citizens with the same rights as all of us and they are entitled to their meagre benefits. Luxon certainly isn't shy about claiming all the things he believes he is entitled to take from the taxpayer.
Big business over helping nz have an income. Mtf cuuntzzz
For cost comparison, perhaps look at the most comprehensive and long running govt school lunch programme in the world: the USA. It feeds about 30 million kids a day all the way through high school. Cost per student in 2023 was USD ~$3.75 ($17.2 billion in total). That's ~$6.20 in our moneys, let's call it $6 to be generous to the NZ govt. General food costs in the USA are similar or lower to NZ. $3/meal (half the US cost) in NZ seems on the low side. Just as an eyeball comparison.
If you want a comparison from a pure weight perspective, a Big Mac burger is 220g. There are plenty of 5-7year old kids who would struggle to eat a whole Big Mac, but some would definitely be scratching around for something else. So a 240g meal for the average young'un sounds pretty good from a quantity perspective. I gotta say though, when McDs first came out in NZ I was still in primary school and a Big Mac, small fries (80g) and small drink didn't quite leave me satisfied.
I'd say nutritionally a Big Mac ain't that bad, it's got fresh lettuce and onions in it, pickles, and pure beef patties, and the cheese is OK. The bun has way too much sugar in it, but overall it's better than a packet of twisties. It's fast food, but not quite junk status.
I think I could make a 240g butter chicken meal for $3 from supermarket prices, so long as I get the chicken on special, esp looking at the proportion of rice vs sauce vs the actual expensive component: chicken.
Quality costs money, and I'm not really sure $3 is quite enough. Probably doesn't need to be $8, but I think $5 would be reasonable.
Probably about as nutritious as your average meat pie. Maybe similar size.
Why not just serve them pies.
A question for the PM. Mr Luxon, Sir. What do you think is more full of shit Andrew Bailey or a $3 school lunch?
What's wrong with a marmite and cheese sandwich, cheese was a luxury in my day
Looks like Seeless doesn't like the dish his face tells it all yuk
I have sampled a few of those meals...Some of them are pretty fkn good.
Pig swill.
I think they are going to be accompanied by fruit, muesli bar and/or yoghurt which pads it out.
Maybe the fruit,muesli bars and yogurt will be in next year's budget. I thought Governments were into Macroeconomics not Microeconomics. Anyway it's a sad indictment that children are needing to be fed at school because there's a shortage of food at home.
Free up some public land and have communal gardens to help contribute too it and maybe have beneficiaries to work it at least one day a week each.
Ol Chewy never fails , never let good be the enemy of perfect 🎉 I'm gonna start writing these down 🎉
More like "never let good be the enemy of Seymour coming along and turning a good thing bad"
@@AnthonyFlack I don't mind him as He is a bit Off beat 🪘 like me 😆. I don't vote ACT but I relate to the "stir it Up" type 😆
@@deanspanley4472 - he's not "off beat" and he's not trying to "stir it up", he has an agenda to privatise and deregulate NZ and send the profits to his rich mates overseas and his jokey persona is just a mask.
Why are parents not providing lunches?
Why are landlords receiving billions in taxpayer handouts but don't pay any taxes?
A gang in ngaruawahia gave school lunches for free you .Muppets
Feed your own children then, instead of buy alcohol and drugs
The prize goes to you for the most inane, pathetic comment. Duh!!!!!
get a job and pay taxes, instead of being a lazy tax dodging landlord
what a simplistic comment , even middle class families struggling with food costs. get off your high horse , cause you brought a house in 1980 for a few thousand bucks
Oh. Of course, it's everyone else's problem or fault.
@@vahalla1835 - we pay taxes to the government to act in our collective interest. Nobody is expecting or asking you to do anything or solve anything.
Go back to school !
Be practical !
Money does not grow on trees !
Listening to you both is unhealthy in itself !