TESTED! RC Drift Tires for P-Tile. ReveD | Yokomo | DS Racing | MST
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- Опубліковано 18 жов 2024
- A full tire test of RC drift tires!
I have been wanting to do this for awhile.
I took my Sakura D5s RWD rc drift car (www.ebay.com/i...) to our new local track at Music City RC. I brought with me a whole slew of new drift tires:
ReveD AS-01 tires: www.avantlink....
Yokomo DRA: amzn.to/3cgkjbE
Yokomo DRC: amzn.to/3dUs0Vx
MST CS-R silver / gold / green: www.avantlink....
DS Racing Finix Series LF-3: www.avantlink....
DS Racing RWD-FF-Zero Mark II: www.avantlink....
I put all of these tires to test on the p-tile used at the track.
It was really interesting to see the difference in how each tire performed.
I drifted a circle to gauge angle and speed. Then, I did an acceleration test to see the traction level of each tire. Lastly, I tested each tires side-bite on a decreasing radius drift test.
Check the full video to see the results!
Tell me down in the comments what tire you use!
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Great video as always, interesting to see documented time for speed! For the tire side wall, the square-ish side wall tires give a more cut/bite into the surface while the round side wall tires keep a constant contact when camber is changed. Which the square-ish ones give a more aggressive feel and the round ones give a smoother feel. So this will be noticeable on chassis with mid-high caster/kpi/trailing front end setups or/and rear setup that rolls a lot via hcg/low roll center/etc, as these are tunes where decent amount of camber change is forced. These are just personal and local people at the track findings, so could be different for someone else.
Thanks for the detailed feedback.
If using the ReveD tire on carpet, I could possibly see what you are talking about...but otherwise I am still skeptical.
I'll keep trying and see if I can feel what you are talking about.
Wow. This make me want to biy a drift car, your super good at driving that thing also! Great video 👍😎👍
Thanks! A lot of the driving is in the setup and proper electronics choices. Frequently, folks will cheap-out on the electronics and then get very frustrated with drifting.
I got into rc drifting partially cause your videos, I do not regret it. There is some much to learn and I've learned a ton. Thank you for making vids man.
DRC tires are meant for low reaction surface such as carpet, color concrete and p-tile. They are also softer and square.
DRA tires are for a high traction surface, asphalt, and bare concrete. These are much harder and rounded.
Reve-D are a comp Tire so they'll be the similar to the DRC's.
Wheels are also a big factor, a softer wheel will flex, letting the tire grip a bit more. Mixing tire sets front to back could have some surprising results.
Tony - glad to hear you are enjoying drifting! What chassis do you have?
We have changed to different fronts occasionally. In fact, that is probably what I will do with a few of these leftover sets I now have. I will end up giving them away, or using them as fronts.
I have the YD2 it was an E but I have the rear motor conversion. I like the DRA's for the front. They are harder and rounded they seem to slip more, I haven't tried them on p-tile yet though.
I have mainly used the DRC's and reve-d tires on ptile. I just got my car acting the way I wanted so I was comfortable mixing tires.
Troy, your videos are great. You deserve more subscribers, I have smashed the button... Keep it coming my man.
Thank you!
So the difference in the height of the sidewall is so you know what side to push the tire on from if that’s what you mean. Awesome video great comparison it really makes me want to bring the drift car out today. 👊👊👍👍
ReveD actually has a different sidewall profile. One is curved, one is more flat. They say it is for performance and is very important...
We are drifting on p tile as well and currently we are searching for a new standard tire for the track since our last track spec tire was discontinued. So this was actually very helpful. Our season is starting soon so I'll get onto testing with the guys from this short list so we can decide on new track spec tire. Thank you!
Glad it was helpful.
Since this video, some folks locally prefer the Yokomo DRC over the DRA.
I like the side-bite the DRA gives you. They like the never-ending slide of the DRC.
I called my locl track today to see what they run. The guy on the phone wasn't very helpful. He mentioned that they love Double 7s tires but I couldn't find any info on them. Then he said the DRC is popular too but their track isn't carpet and the DRC says it's for carpet. Does that not matter? Do people run carpet tires on p tile? I cant decide what tires to run lol
@@LegendsPizzaCoDRC is absolutely fine for P-Tile
Great video, loved the on board shots. Have always loved RC drifting just haven’t tried it yet.
I have a spare car with your name on it for when you visit!
@@RoadsideRC now we’re talking 👍🏼👍🏼
Give it a month or so to cool off and let Delta burn out - then you should come down!
Awesome video!!!!!…Rc cars have really come a long way,,, I’m 47 and I remember buying my 1st Rc car from radio shack..lol…it was nothing extreme,just a dirt buggy,, but was fun…. Do you have any videos on an arrma senton. Thanks 🙏
I don't have Arrma Senton specific video, but do have videos on the Granite, Typhon, and Vorteks.
What are you looking for on them?
@@RoadsideRC I was thinking maybe a video on parts upgrade, similar to the video you did on the stampede, I’m actually upgrading a stampede that my buddy gave me, those videos are very helpful!!!!!
Thanks for this good and useful video.
I just bought a D5s chassis to try rc drifting. Your vids on it convinced me to do so.
I'd like to find this kind of drift track near where i live in France. Unfortunatly i guess i'll have to learn on asphalt :)
As a non-english speaker, i'm sorry if i made some typos/mistakes.
Great! I am glad you are getting into drifting. It is a challenging and rewarding form of RC!
Let me know if you have questions along the way!
@@RoadsideRC Indeed, it seems challenging, hard to master, that's why it's kinda attractive to me.
Questions, yeah i have few of them to ask.
I should watch again your vid about servo for the D5s, i'm not sure if you mentionned the maximum height available for it w/o moving neither the shocks nor the upper plate.
Newb question now : is a digital servo mandatory with a gyro ?
I apologize once again for typo/mistakes/nonsense, feel free to correct me, i would like to improve my english too ^_^ (i can't use Googl Trad with a baguette ;) )
I don't remember the maximum servo height, but it is easy to fit a larger servo if needed.
A digital servo is only needed based on your gyro type.
I have drifted with many different types of servos.
@@RoadsideRC Oh my bad, i shall watch your vid again so. I just don't wanna buy something that would not fit properly.
Thx for your time answering me, i'll definitely check your next videos !
A great video, great tests with useful information. I have just started testing DS racing LF2 for concrete and LF4 for carpet drifting.
Great! Thanks for the feedback on the tires. I was rather happy with the LF-3 tires, so would be interested in trying a few other specs also.
Thanks a lot man your videos are full of information
Glad to help!
Awesome video Troy. Never tried drifting but always enjoy watching it!
Thanks! It really is one of the more challenging and rewarding forms of RC.
@@RoadsideRC it is really almost mesmerizing to watch. And to think how much concentration you must have on the input to keep it going!
Yeah there is always personal preference and a lot of the comps are running ds racing lf5 or the FFFF tires so keep that in mind as well when choosing the next batch of tires. As far as the foams are concerned every wheel set you get from mst has the foams so it’s more abundant to get rims to change up rather than the foams for different wheels they also sell rubber rings to eliminate the foam as well.
Thanks for the feedback! Happy to try out those tires when I get a chance. We have historically always run Yokomo tires in our area before.
The tires go on directional for fitment. the inside of the tire is slightly larger than the outside of the tire. This is to help keep the tires on the rim. You will also notice a difference in the inside and outside the lip of most rims. So yeah it’s strictly for fitment and has nothing to do with performance. By the way I really enjoy your videos keep up the awesome work
What I talk about with the ReveD in this video is directly from their manual. They claim a difference based on how the tire is mounted.
@@RoadsideRC Which we both know is complete nonsense. If you took the front left tire off and mounted on the right rear it’s now spinning in the opposite direction. I honestly think some of these companies just throw bullshit at the wall to see what sticks.
Hey Troy!
I know you said you don't drift on asphalt much but for a lot of us it's pretty much the only playground we have and it burns up tires fast.
You think it'd be a good video idea to do home made ABS pipe tires and/or PVC and compare them to DRAs?
I just might! Thanks for the idea.
@@RoadsideRC Awesome!
I also wonder how long the tires would last vs DRAs or other brands’ Asphalt tires 😄
The slight angle on the tyres are to help with camber and turning and transioning angles upon this also built for different terrain types most yokomo is used for asphalt but ware out very quickly as where I live there is no local track that allows me to attend a track such as u have without driving miles from my home which I don't drive
I would see your point.. if we actually used that part of the tire. But, that part never touches the ground.
Good luck on finding or building a track near you!
I wonder if the different sidewalls are just a cosmetic preference. Some people may like a more squared off appearance (racey look) and some people may like the look of a stretched tire(stanced look)?
I believe you are actually right, however their manual says it is for different surfaces. I still call BS. :)
Awesome video as always👍🏻
Thank you!
My home track is ptile and their track tire is drc and the reve d but with the reve d to get a good use out of em the tires have to be warm for good grip and slide but it’s awesome. Definitely some good info for new users and experienced as well
Thanks for the feedback. Other folks said the same thing about the ReveD - they needed to get warm.
Cool video , cool car 🚘
Thanks! 👍
I appreciate the effort to test each tyres. Must’ve took a long time to record and swap it out there. Im new to 1/10 scale drift, and i was wondering what tyres are actually worth getting for the track and the surface that i’m going to run it. Good info! Thanks!
Glad this was helpful!
What surface is your track?
@@RoadsideRC im playing on smooth parking cement, still have yet to find a track here in my country. Covid’s been fucking everything up, so lots of hobby shops are closed.
Another great scientific test Brother !! We run on concrete mostly and the Yokomo DRC seems to be our standard. I've tried quite a few different tires like you. It would be interesting to see what you think when you run them on your garage floor. Have you tried any of the ebay or Amazon cheapo tires yet? Perhaps a test of them would be interesting? Thanks again.
Thanks for the idea!
Getting some of the cheap tires and testing them would be interesting. Of course, the good thing is even these "premium" drift tires are still only $20 for a set of 4!
I have done this, not made a video but its something im interested in. I have found a set of ebay tires that work the same or better than yokomo carpet tires. Also keep an eye on the Max speed technology knockoff tires some of the softer (waxier feeling compound) are reasonable on concrete.
The different profile of the edge of the tire is for clearance on the body's I believe. They also do that on the tires and wheels made for the smaller wheel openings like the Toyota AE86 and other older and smaller body styles.
The instructions that come with the tires - directly from ReveD - says it is for different surfaces. I still think they are a little crazy. :)
I drift on epoxy sealed concrete that can get a bit dusty sometimes. We run MST Golds but some guys have started switching to the AS-01 because they are easier to get. On this surface they are similar, the gold seems to have more side bite but it's hard to tell. We can run together with those tires.
Interesting!
Our local track was an epoxy concrete and we also used MST Gold for the longest time.
We then decided to try Yokomo DRA - and they helped us slow the cars down a lot. It was really nice. But - that matched the size of our track at the time as well. It was rather small.
Thanks Troy I believe I'm going to get a set of them rev d that kit that I am doing came with MST Silver's
Awesome! The ReveD should be much slower than the MST Silver.
Hey great video man, i just wanted to ask if P tiles can be bought and what material is it made up of? To me it looks like the material is made up of a porcelain tile at the bottom and a layer of black mat on top of it.
P-tile is a plastic tile. Things you commonly see in office environments. Yes, can be purchased at flooring stores.
Great video subscribed! What body is that on your video? Firebird?
Thanks!
It is a Pro-line Trans-Am
Perhaps this detail went unnoticed, but every brand's wheels structurally differ, and I’m not just talking about the surface. I’m referring to the angle on both the inside and outside of the wheel. When you take this into account, you'll notice significant differences, especially with the camber angle.
For instance, let’s say you’ve mounted a set of Réwe D tires and set the rear camber angle to 3°, and the front to 7°. Later, if you switch to DS Racing tires and assume that the previous camber settings will work without adjustment, you'd be mistaken. Even a half-degree difference can impact handling stability and speed. Therefore, you should always reassess the camber angles when changing tires.
Moreover, even if the pressure contact area of the tires with the ground is set to the same degree, there will still be variations between brands. That’s why it's essential to always factor in these differences when making adjustments.
These aregreat points!
Cool test and video
Thank you!
got into rc drifting using a yokomo yd2 about a year now, but still managed to be confused when i am about to choose which tires on which surface, might save this video to help me choose the best tires for each surface, thanks a lot for the explanation!
Thanks for the nice comment!
I hope you are enjoying drifting!
If you know, do they wax P-tile? if so how often do you they wax their track? I know wax leaves some nasty dust and residue on your drift car so I am just curious if they do wax or not?
They do not wax the track here
Awesome Ty for your reply
Thanks so much for the info, im drift on similar floor
Glad to help!
Nice review, what kind surface you run ?
That is a plastic-tile "p-tile"
When u say yokomo DRA, theres two type, Drpa for ptiles, and Dra for asphalt .which one a you using?
When I filmed this, DRPA was not out yet, so used DRA.
What tires would you recommend for granite/ vinyl planks? I have the Sakura D5S belt drive upgrade unfortunately it does not say what tires they comes with but it drifts amazing on both floor types just not sure what tires I have on right now. Let me know what you would recommend or if you know the style it comes with thank a bunch!
I have not personally drifted on those surfaces, so I don't have a strong opinion here.
I tend to like Yokomo tires. DRA goes faster, DRC is slower. Pick the tire based on the size of your space and how fast the track is. I would start with the DRC.
Hiya! I drift on vinyl planks, they are both lightly textured w fake wood grain and super slick. I run a rear top mount MST RMX w stock gearing on a D10 motor and 10BL120 ESC. My goto tires are as follows... 1) Grip - MST Gold, hands down the perfect speed tire on this floor w lots of drift. 2) Control - MST Silver, the perfect combo of slip and grip, slows down your sessions but keeps them mildly fast. 3) Ice Dancing - DS Racing LF-3, these are the perfect ice dancing tires for a slow precise drift session. The force me to slow down considerably and up my accuracy quite a bit.
Have done testing on hard wood flooring polished? I’m very interested to see that and of course p tile as you have nicely shown lol
I have not! I'm pretty sure my wife will kick my tail!
Please try lol it’s actually really nice and smooth but I’m using gold MST tires at the moment but would be curious to try the ds racing lf3z I heard are awesome
@@vincelbrown328 try the LF-5, if you like slow smooth drifts! 👍
ua-cam.com/video/0y9UINwelc8/v-deo.html
cool 😎
Thank you!
What do you think would work good at Mary’s playground hokey rink, the one that is lined in Hendersonville?
I have driven there before. It is very slick. The Yokomo DRA would probably be the most fun there.
Brother awesome rig and are these affordable cause I’d really like to get one.
See ya next time 😁💯💯🤙
Thanks!
Drift cars can be rather expensive to get into. The cheapest/best way to get into RWD drifting is the MST RMX2.0S RTR. It can get you drifting straight out of the box for $360, and then does really well with some upgrades!
@@RoadsideRC nice 👍🏻 thank you bud
I went with Chris recommendations Yokomo DRC rear and DRA front
That will get you started for sure!
Eventually, we will have a standard tire for the track.
@@RoadsideRC agreed 👍
Hey dude what would be the best rc car online store to buy from you think? Rc mart, rc planet, amain hobbies, or... lmk
I prefer AMain Hobbies as #1, Super-g online as #2.
@RoadsideRC ok cool. You should do a video on what would be the best rc drift car set up as far as the electronics go and radio battery and all that. I think that would be a dope video brother. Im new to drift scene.
@@Eurospeedautomotiveofficial Here - check this video out:
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My guess as to the different profiles are to allow you to have a flat contact patch with having negative camber (assuming you set the camber to match the tire profile)?
Are you talking about the ReveD tire?
@@RoadsideRC I don't remember which, but you had mentioned towards the end of the video that one set had a different profile on one side of the tire. Not sure if that meant one side had more rubber than the other. Would make sense if the outside of the tire was thicker than the inside to help assist with getting you a flat contact patch, taking into account the negative camber.
@@RoadsideRC I just went back and checked... You are correct, it was the Reve D tires. You mentioned it at about the 15 minute mark.
@@NathanStorer-RC There isn't actually more rubber on one side - it is just the roundness of the shoulder that is the difference.
@@RoadsideRC ah, well, that peculiar then lol
Do you have any recommendation videos on tires used on concrete surfaces similar to a garage (not polished, but not rough either)
Depends on the track layout and exact details of the surface.
I would start with Yokomo DRA, and if that is too fast, go DRC.
@@RoadsideRC what would you use in your garage
@@viper92086 amzn.to/3gE70n3
@@RoadsideRC thank you so much, you've been a great help with your videos and reddit posts
good info
Glad it was helpful!
Possible to find in ~100mm diameter, so that I can fit to a Traxxas Rally Fiesta?
I know that the car is not ideal and it's just for fun with some cones on the front yard.
I have not seen any that fit the LaTrax vehicles.
@@RoadsideRC Not Latrax, Rally Fiesta 1/10 4x4 (same chassis as Slash, but with offset 0 wheels vs offset 1/2)
What esc are you running on your car ..I can’t get my son mst to drift for nothing
The ESC and motor should be the last of your concerns.
The gyro, servo, and controller are much more important.
Is the MST the RTR model?
Do you have any tips on how to drift smooth on wide sweepers?
Hi there! Without having your car in front of me, here are my high-level thoughts:
1) smooth throttle, you should be holding the throttle steady or barely moving it.
2) tweak the front alignment. More open Akerman will be twitchy in this situation.
3) really good gyro - don't cheap out on the gyro!
What tire would you recommend on a smooth epoxy floor ?
Unfortunately, there is no one answer here. Depends on the exact epoxy and the size of the track.
I suggest starting with DRC and then modify from there.
@@RoadsideRC it’s pretty close to p tile
I am looking for P.tiles around WA. where can we buy those?
usually any commercial flooring store will have access to them.
I'd be curious to know how the yokomo DRAs are on asphalt.
That is more what they were designed for!
I don't ever really get out on asphalt anywhere.
Idk maybe its the surface im running my tires on (tiles) but i cannot seem to get a clean long fast drift like that without sliding out. Super slippery
What gyro are you running? With what chassis?
Will you do one of these videos for concrete
Hi there! There is no "one tire" for concrete....as there are so many types of concrete. Different textures, etc.
As an example, we have 3 different concrete areas near us. Need a different tire at each!
@@RoadsideRC that makes since. I am getting new wheels and tires for my mst rmx 2.0 and have been debating on tires. I watched you wheel video and it's super informative and I greatly appreciate your content. Keep it up 👍
Could it just be an aesthetic choice to look like a lot of negative camber?
Maybe!
I need to get a D3 we don't have a track for it but I can sling it in the garage
Get the D5!!!! Much better chassis!
@@RoadsideRC 🤔
Yea get a d5 the d3 is sooo old and way out of date
D5 is a beast my son keeps drifting his on our house carpet then transition to kitchen tile while keeping a drift he makes it look so easy while being a 8 year old lol
I bought some tires through your link hope it gets you something
Thanks! It does help give a little to the channel. I really appreciate it.
Ds f5 what I run on asshvalt
Can you try ds racing LF5s?
I didn't have access to them at the time of the test.
Is that a tire you use normally?
@@RoadsideRC yeah it’s what we’re running here in Georgia. We usually switch between the LF5s or yokomo DRCs.
@@chuntareyyath9764 have u tried the FFFF tires as well slightly mote grip than the lf5’s
@@louddesignzrc38 yeah but we learned it’s harder to tandem on quads. I think they’re discontinuing those too
@@chuntareyyath9764 I’ll send u a video of some of the tandems they was doing in New Jersey and they were on one another’s door
DRA for Asphalt right?
I have always used the guideline that DRA = asphalt and DRC - carpet. However, you have to pick and choose based on the surface you are on. DRA worked great for me here!
Polished Concrete
Great! What tire do you use there?
@@RoadsideRC yokomo DRA
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i am about to get my first rc drift car in a week or so.
but i do NOT like the big wheel / stretched tire look.
i would like to go with the old school 14-15in wheel meatier tire look on my build.
i just dont know where to look / start etc.
can you help point me in the right direction ?
i REALLY love the watanabe RS style wheels but in a smaller diameter with a thicker tire that has a bigger sidewall...
links would be greatly appreciated.. thank you .
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i have a 95 mustang gt that i am building IRL as my drift car.
dont seem to see that body style in the 1/10th RC world.
do you by chance know where i could get one ? ( the only link i did find said they are discontinued )
Hi there!
Good news - I think you are in luck on both accounts.
There is a company that makes a smaller looking rim. It still uses the same tires, but the outer lip of the rim is designed to look like an extension of the tire. This gives the illusion of running a smaller diameter rim. I *believe these might be them: supergdrift.com/store/product-category/rims/scale-dynamics-rims/
For bodies - they are out there, I promise. Super-G also has this one...which is about as close as you get easily: supergdrift.com/store/product/2003-ford-mustang-cobra-body-set-aplastics/
Check out the DeltaPlastik, Aplastics, and McAllister Racing bodies.
Hope this helps!
@@RoadsideRC THANK YOU SOOO MUCH ! ! !
that is the 03 mustang body however.. i am looking for the 94-98 body ! i will keep looking .. i really appreciate your response !
What is P tile? Noob over here, obviously....
It is that surface you see the car on in the video. It is a plastic tile that is frequently used in office buildings / commercial areas.
I think the reve d's different left-right shoulder shape is more functional for the front end. Due to the caster effect, the tires will create some camber angle when the steering is turned during drifting. The leading and trailing tires (when the car is in a drift) will then have different contact points to the floor, one tire will touch the floor with the outer shoulder and the opposite tire will touch the floor with the inner shoulder, and I should think that reve d engineers optimize the shoulder shapes to allow for more effective drifting..
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Good luck!