@@kristoferkoessel4354 it’s good. A lot cleaner than the other channel strips. It’s modeled after the K board and the bus comp is great. Really can’t go wrong with choosing from any manufacturer but it’s definitely a sale u don’t wanna pass up, plus you get the SSL 360 software that gives u a visual of the console emulation your applying to tracks. Also plugin alliance has a sale for $29.99 on their SSL channel strips and other particular products they haven’t excluded.
Your "shit" videos are NOT shit . Actually they are very fun to watch. Keep em comin. One request, lol. Would be possible to add just a few short audio examples while reviewing the plugin. Specially when it's compared against the competition. Thanks for videos
Hi Dany. Thanks for the support.... Much appreciated. 👍 We're avoiding audio examples as they are so subjective and gear/system dependent and there's usually loads already online... But we've got lots more reviews coming... Stay tuned to the shit... 🤣🤣🤘
This is the cleanest sounding channel strip out of the 3 native ones. My favorite is the 4000 E. Seems like it’s a perfect mix between the 4000 B and the native 9000 K.
Funny, I always liked SSL's plugin better than the brainworx attempt. Not saying PA's versions suck, they are cool, but the SSL got something pristine to it, it is hard to explain. Brainworx' TMT is something I just don't get the point of. I can't even call it an advantage. Let me elaborate what I mean. The differences of each channel only become obvious if you split one signal and feed two channels with it (on the real console). The phase differences that occur due to different Q and Freq settings in the EQ section or a slightly different harmonic spectrum due to minimal variations in the compressor circuit then creates that "3D" effect that can be perceived with one signal, yes. BUT: If we mix like we've been doing it back then (in my case on a Neve VR Legend) we wouldn't waste channels for the sake of those tiny differences by feeding two channels the same signal. My tracks of a drum group looked pretty standard: BD Sn Snbot HH TT1, TT2.... you know the rest. Now, how would one tell if there is a difference between the shelf band of the BD channel and the HH channel? How could that affect anything? There is no such thing as making a single mono signal 3D just because the shelf of channel 3 is a microbit different than that of channel 1. Of course, if you recorded a multi-mic'ed orchestra (not talking about the section mics!) then those differences might make a tiny, tiny difference. But you could get the same result by setting the frequencies not by numbers but by turning the knob by eye and ear, just like you would do on a console. It's highly unlikely that you nail the exact same frequency setting and voila, there is your difference. That's why I couldn't care less about that TMT and why I think that was just a very smart PR move for mixers who started doing that craft after those analogue days. Sorry, that became a little unplanned rant. What I actually wanted to say was: The biiig advantage of SSL's channel is imo the 360-software. That's the workflow I've been missing and it's exactly what SSL is giving me. The Waves Mixhub was a similar thing but way to heavy on the CPU.
Its tempting to buy this but the bx console is just so good i cant think of using another emulation. And dont get me wrong i love ssl. I use their plugins somuch.
@@BojanBojovic i have the bx 9000j. i love the low end it gives me on kicks and overal on a drumbus it sounds so clean and at the same time warm! will this ssl be a option too or? i love the rest from ssl wich gives me more character then my stock cubase plugins
@@lX-NDR Thanks. I am sorry but this is very subjective, almost religious description. 🙂 Technicaly all SSL channel emulation plugins have almost identical EQ curves, the difference is mainly in saturation and dynamic section with the BX channel being very different than all others as there compressor does not react unless the input is driven 10db, even then it does not sound like all the others. On the other hand the gate works as it should on bx channel, and not very good on the SSL Native plugin. In the end they are very similar so no need to go this route but having all of them, like I did. 😃 In reality I get almost there same results with almost any plugin chain, because it is me that makes the decisions. If you like this channel strip ergonomics then it is ok to have it, but as for the ability to have a good mix, there are just a few plugins out there that will make your mix sound bad, so do not worry about the stock plugins. 🙂
I’ve got both. Vocal strip has de-Esser, de-ploser and simple eq and compression..it’s good, but the channel can do everything else very well. .. including vocals 👍
@@StudioLife101 Thanks for the reply. I've seen many comments talk about using the CS2 with a Compressor at the end but many people have said the CS2 is that good, it's all you need. I guess it's all depended on what your needs are at the time unless CS2 really is all you need minus reverb.
@@StudioLife101 I was also wondering the same thing because i had the vocal strip and didnt know if i would benefit from the channel strip and bus compressor but realized that it all should have a diffrent tone since its based off different hardware replications
I was also wondering the same thing because i had the vocal strip and didnt know if i would benefit from the channel strip and bus compressor but realized that it all should have a diffrent tone since its based off different hardware replications
If this sounds like the 4k E (which I’m not sure of), I think the bx SSL 9K J sounds the best of them all. Clear treble and just enough smooth bass that I like. It reminds me of listening to the pristine “The Immaculate Collection” Madonna CD.
New SSL Strip Sheriff in town.....ALERT ******* The Sand Acustica Audio Pre + G+ Strip + IK Media MixBox Bus Comp with a Tiny Bit of Sat X.... nothing beats the 4 of them on an Analog Bounced Bus.....the 4 of them sound Amazing......The Trick with Alot of these plugins...is....the best combination of Digital + Acustica Audio + Nebula Plugins...give you an Advantage...because now your getting the Tone, Depth, and the Harmonic Distortion of the Hardware all in one...but you have to sound experiment...... Another Example.....Magenta Strip + Mojo (Nebula) (Manely Setting) + Magenta Stereo Compressor....you have a Full Mainly Mastering Rack Chain...in your DAW..... Im convinced....these combinations for the Home Producer Put the Hardware being needed in a Home Studio out of Business....you can have a Manely and I dont....but once I put those three Plugins...on any bus and run the through any Analog Signal Chain and back into my DAW, Im going to have the SAME SOUND and the SAME QUALITY.... The Magenta Bundle and Nebula Mojo...Cost $230.00 Add a UAD Interface...SoundCraft Mixer and a WA GComp....$2700 a Manily Comp by itself is about $5500 for $5500 you can put a whole home studio together....LOL.......
AlexB 4k Channel, with the Analog Obssesion SSQ with the Timp P L bus Comp, or Sand 3 by Acustica Audio, those two options sound much more analog and real than this...matter of fact the SSL V6 channel strip 1 sounds better than the their channel strip 2 or the latest 2.2 update
@@Mansardianyou know what a 9K is? It's a 4000 without the capacitors in the signal path, and a more powerful computer. I agree it is clean. SSL in the form of their channel strips are what was intended. EQ, compression, and gating without color.
Yeah, the channel strip 1 seems to have brown knob E series curves. Even though they it was the G and E curves from the 4000 series desks. But was the algorithm ripped straight from the C200 digital console. Which is not a bad thing at all! The bells cramp, but only slightly. The channel strip 2 has the G series pink knob curves, and the E black knob curves, also no cramping, and has oversampling, but not because there is any saturation because both don't have them, but SSL says for better operation of the component modeling whatever that means, because the channel strip 2 has no harmonics, same as the first one.
Possibly... Waves update pricing has pretty much put me off any more investing in them... I'd take the BRAINWORX over all of them. I still occasionally mix on an SSL and it's closest to my ears. 👍
@Studio Life EV2 sounds great but is also a huge CPU hog ;) SSL does not have too good saturation, but the EQ curves are good and the compressor is very good :)
@@StudioLife101, As a regular 4k desk user myself, I prefer the 4kb channel emulation. UAD seems to be the most accurate in terms of all round sound quality including the open high end,, at least with the stuff I've worked on at Maida Vale, amongst many other studios. The 4Kb does not compete with an actual 4k desk, however the sound of the plugin is great as a different emulation. The utterly sweet crisp high end is what 90 percent of these plugins get wrong vs a 4k desk.
@@StudioLife101 Nice! They had a 4k in the Bing Crosby studio, as I call it. It was always strange being in such a large space which was relatively dead acoustically. Messes with the perception.
Well. Like the GUI, works great with the UF-8, but for me it's still an SSL. All things being even, I would go for the Brainworx strips. And I have to tell you - to be quite honest - I just absolutely hate the English. Full disclosure: Since I was adopted and had no idea about my paternal family I took a Living DNA test. Even though you already know what I'm going to say I will do so anyway: I'm 100% ENGLISH. G*DDAMIT!
If their plugins...where Slightly Live Sampled with x2 Oversampling and Sound Modeled as careful as UAD with the UC1 and other controller....they would sale more of those than the Hardware...mind boggling how you can just trash a great company with bad marketing decisions....
They sound OK...but Plugin Alliance Acustica Audio and Slate Digital sound Great....matter of fact its alot of Brandism going on For Example the IK Media Bus Comp sounds better than the UAD and Native SSL in a Mastering Situation...and Slate FG Grey, Sand 2 Comp and Townhouse Compressors...blows the Native SSL Bus Away...LOL...they cut their throats by not linking their Soft Hardware to good plugins...bottom line...LOL
Man…Acustica Audio, Slate and BX Townhome Comp..Sound about 90 times better now they are plug-ins sounded like that with that controller that will be a game changer
@@johnisrael5183 Never been a fan of Slate...and Acustica are way too unstable in my opinion...huge resources hogs - not to mention some fanatical supporters who seem to pounce on no -believers online for some reason. But each to their own. 👍
@@BojanBojovic Ahhh...OK...the Brainworx is spot on though...the comp works just like the real one to my ears...I worked on SSL for years.👍....but there's plenty of alternatives out there. What's your go to channel strip?
@@StudioLife101 I never worked with the real 4K console, however the BX dynamic section is the only one that differs a lot from all the others, I personally do not like it as the input need to be driven 6 to 10 db higher to get similar results, even then it does not "bite" as much as others. With that being said, SSL Native Channel Strip 2 Gate does not have that famous CLICK when it is used with fast attack settings, BX, EV2, CLA, all have it so not sure how faithful the SSL native plugins are. :) This is all gear snobbery of course, oversampling is important but not crucial, the fact that a plugin does not work the same as a real thing (which also does not work the same as other consoles of the same kind all around the world) means nothing really. A good song, good performer, and good engineer is probably 90% of a good product, the gear must be very bad to stop those 3 to give a good finished product in the end. :) I have them all, maybe EV2 and CLA MixHub are used most of the time, I do not like BX because of how the dynamic section works, also TMT is really funny.
I own the SSL native channel strip 2 and I have to say... it's definitely NOT shit..
it is "The shit" I fuckin love it!!
They have a sale at plugin boutique for this channel strip and bus comp for $49
got it yesterday, totally worth it!
Fr bro I’m looking at that and I really want to know if it’s good 😂
@@kristoferkoessel4354 it’s good. A lot cleaner than the other channel strips. It’s modeled after the K board and the bus comp is great. Really can’t go wrong with choosing from any manufacturer but it’s definitely a sale u don’t wanna pass up, plus you get the SSL 360 software that gives u a visual of the console emulation your applying to tracks. Also plugin alliance has a sale for $29.99 on their SSL channel strips and other particular products they haven’t excluded.
What bus compressor did you pick? I couldn’t decide on another plugin so I just picked bx Master Pro or whatever.
@@smujohnson the SSL native channel strip 2 and SSL bus compressor 2 were on sale some months back as a bundle for $49.
This plugin is DEADLY. ignore everyother comment about it.
I've been researching Dre Dre & came across this & hear how good it is by so many people. Do you put this on the master channel?
@@TheRealSandman No....not on the master...but most channels for some mixes. 👍
@ Great thank you for the clarity on this!
Your "shit" videos are NOT shit . Actually they are very fun to watch. Keep em comin.
One request, lol. Would be possible to add just a few short audio examples while reviewing the plugin. Specially when it's compared against the competition.
Thanks for videos
Hi Dany. Thanks for the support.... Much appreciated. 👍 We're avoiding audio examples as they are so subjective and gear/system dependent and there's usually loads already online... But we've got lots more reviews coming... Stay tuned to the shit... 🤣🤣🤘
This is the cleanest sounding channel strip out of the 3 native ones. My favorite is the 4000 E. Seems like it’s a perfect mix between the 4000 B and the native 9000 K.
Yes....👍
I almost busted a fat nut when I heard the Bx SSL 9000J. Bought it right away.
Funny, I always liked SSL's plugin better than the brainworx attempt. Not saying PA's versions suck, they are cool, but the SSL got something pristine to it, it is hard to explain. Brainworx' TMT is something I just don't get the point of. I can't even call it an advantage. Let me elaborate what I mean. The differences of each channel only become obvious if you split one signal and feed two channels with it (on the real console). The phase differences that occur due to different Q and Freq settings in the EQ section or a slightly different harmonic spectrum due to minimal variations in the compressor circuit then creates that "3D" effect that can be perceived with one signal, yes. BUT: If we mix like we've been doing it back then (in my case on a Neve VR Legend) we wouldn't waste channels for the sake of those tiny differences by feeding two channels the same signal. My tracks of a drum group looked pretty standard: BD Sn Snbot HH TT1, TT2.... you know the rest. Now, how would one tell if there is a difference between the shelf band of the BD channel and the HH channel? How could that affect anything? There is no such thing as making a single mono signal 3D just because the shelf of channel 3 is a microbit different than that of channel 1.
Of course, if you recorded a multi-mic'ed orchestra (not talking about the section mics!) then those differences might make a tiny, tiny difference. But you could get the same result by setting the frequencies not by numbers but by turning the knob by eye and ear, just like you would do on a console. It's highly unlikely that you nail the exact same frequency setting and voila, there is your difference. That's why I couldn't care less about that TMT and why I think that was just a very smart PR move for mixers who started doing that craft after those analogue days.
Sorry, that became a little unplanned rant.
What I actually wanted to say was: The biiig advantage of SSL's channel is imo the 360-software. That's the workflow I've been missing and it's exactly what SSL is giving me. The Waves Mixhub was a similar thing but way to heavy on the CPU.
Its tempting to buy this but the bx console is just so good i cant think of using another emulation. And dont get me wrong i love ssl. I use their plugins somuch.
What about the bx_4000 you find so good?
@@BojanBojovic i have the bx 9000j. i love the low end it gives me on kicks and overal on a drumbus it sounds so clean and at the same time warm! will this ssl be a option too or? i love the rest from ssl wich gives me more character then my stock cubase plugins
@@lX-NDR Thanks. I am sorry but this is very subjective, almost religious description. 🙂
Technicaly all SSL channel emulation plugins have almost identical EQ curves, the difference is mainly in saturation and dynamic section with the BX channel being very different than all others as there compressor does not react unless the input is driven 10db, even then it does not sound like all the others.
On the other hand the gate works as it should on bx channel, and not very good on the SSL Native plugin.
In the end they are very similar so no need to go this route but having all of them, like I did. 😃
In reality I get almost there same results with almost any plugin chain, because it is me that makes the decisions. If you like this channel strip ergonomics then it is ok to have it, but as for the ability to have a good mix, there are just a few plugins out there that will make your mix sound bad, so do not worry about the stock plugins. 🙂
@@BojanBojovic thnx for your honest answer! the bx 9000j gives me somuch joy expecially the thd knob wich alot forget to use :) loving the channel!
What’s the exact model name of the bx_console you like? They usually have letters or names after.
What is the difference between this and vocal strip 2 if you are just using it for vocals?
I’ve got both. Vocal strip has de-Esser, de-ploser and simple eq and compression..it’s good, but the channel can do everything else very well. .. including vocals 👍
@@StudioLife101 Thanks for the reply. I've seen many comments talk about using the CS2 with a Compressor at the end but many people have said the CS2 is that good, it's all you need. I guess it's all depended on what your needs are at the time unless CS2 really is all you need minus reverb.
@@jamielofts Look at the Brainworx ssl j Channel.
@@StudioLife101 I was also wondering the same thing because i had the vocal strip and didnt know if i would benefit from the channel strip and bus compressor but realized that it all should have a diffrent tone since its based off different hardware replications
I was also wondering the same thing because i had the vocal strip and didnt know if i would benefit from the channel strip and bus compressor but realized that it all should have a diffrent tone since its based off different hardware replications
Do u like this one or the ssl 9000 J better?
I mostly use this at the moment because I've got the UC1...👍 but both are great.
If this sounds like the 4k E (which I’m not sure of), I think the bx SSL 9K J sounds the best of them all. Clear treble and just enough smooth bass that I like. It reminds me of listening to the pristine “The Immaculate Collection” Madonna CD.
New SSL Strip Sheriff in town.....ALERT ******* The Sand Acustica Audio Pre + G+ Strip + IK Media MixBox Bus Comp with a Tiny Bit of Sat X.... nothing beats the 4 of them on an Analog Bounced Bus.....the 4 of them sound Amazing......The Trick with Alot of these plugins...is....the best combination of Digital + Acustica Audio + Nebula Plugins...give you an Advantage...because now your getting the Tone, Depth, and the Harmonic Distortion of the Hardware all in one...but you have to sound experiment......
Another Example.....Magenta Strip + Mojo (Nebula) (Manely Setting) + Magenta Stereo Compressor....you have a Full Mainly Mastering Rack Chain...in your DAW.....
Im convinced....these combinations for the Home Producer Put the Hardware being needed in a Home Studio out of Business....you can have a Manely and I dont....but once I put those three Plugins...on any bus and run the through any Analog Signal Chain and back into my DAW, Im going to have the SAME SOUND and the SAME QUALITY....
The Magenta Bundle and Nebula Mojo...Cost $230.00 Add a UAD Interface...SoundCraft Mixer and a WA GComp....$2700 a Manily Comp by itself is about $5500
for $5500 you can put a whole home studio together....LOL.......
dudes look like they're in a halo cutscene
AlexB 4k Channel, with the Analog Obssesion SSQ with the Timp P L bus Comp, or Sand 3 by Acustica Audio, those two options sound much more analog and real than this...matter of fact the SSL V6 channel strip 1 sounds better than the their channel strip 2 or the latest 2.2 update
You do know that this is a 9K which is supposed to be pretty clean, don't you?🤔
@@Mansardianyou know what a 9K is? It's a 4000 without the capacitors in the signal path, and a more powerful computer. I agree it is clean. SSL in the form of their channel strips are what was intended. EQ, compression, and gating without color.
Yeah, the channel strip 1 seems to have brown knob E series curves. Even though they it was the G and E curves from the 4000 series desks. But was the algorithm ripped straight from the C200 digital console. Which is not a bad thing at all! The bells cramp, but only slightly. The channel strip 2 has the G series pink knob curves, and the E black knob curves, also no cramping, and has oversampling, but not because there is any saturation because both don't have them, but SSL says for better operation of the component modeling whatever that means, because the channel strip 2 has no harmonics, same as the first one.
I done a mix with sand and was pretty blown away by it. I have all the brainworks strips and the ssl 2 strip but sand just had something else
The ev2 is way better but the 360 software is better than mix hub so waves all day
Possibly... Waves update pricing has pretty much put me off any more investing in them... I'd take the BRAINWORX over all of them. I still occasionally mix on an SSL and it's closest to my ears. 👍
@Studio Life EV2 sounds great but is also a huge CPU hog ;) SSL does not have too good saturation, but the EQ curves are good and the compressor is very good :)
no offence to the creators of the channel and the desk, SSL, I have to say UAD version sounds better.
@@MKD371 Maybe it's beating this version...but as a regular 4k desk user, their 4k channel wins easily.👍
@@StudioLife101, As a regular 4k desk user myself, I prefer the 4kb channel emulation. UAD seems to be the most accurate in terms of all round sound quality including the open high end,, at least with the stuff I've worked on at Maida Vale, amongst many other studios. The 4Kb does not compete with an actual 4k desk, however the sound of the plugin is great as a different emulation. The utterly sweet crisp high end is what 90 percent of these plugins get wrong vs a 4k desk.
@ Was at Maida Vale yesterday...SSL J series in there now...and some lovely PMCs...👍
@@StudioLife101 Nice! They had a 4k in the Bing Crosby studio, as I call it. It was always strange being in such a large space which was relatively dead acoustically. Messes with the perception.
Well. Like the GUI, works great with the UF-8, but for me it's still an SSL. All things being even, I would go for the Brainworx strips. And I have to tell you - to be quite honest - I just absolutely hate the English. Full disclosure: Since I was adopted and had no idea about my paternal family I took a Living DNA test. Even though you already know what I'm going to say I will do so anyway: I'm 100% ENGLISH. G*DDAMIT!
Actually the Acustica Audio
Sand3 SSL E EQ Strip Plugin + the Brainworx Townhouse Compressor together...blows the Native SSL Strip awwaayyyyy...LMAO
If their plugins...where Slightly Live Sampled with x2 Oversampling and Sound Modeled as careful as UAD with the UC1 and other controller....they would sale more of those than the Hardware...mind boggling how you can just trash a great company with bad marketing decisions....
Trashed? I think they're doing OK...😂 👍
They sound OK...but
Plugin Alliance
Acustica Audio
and Slate Digital sound Great....matter of fact its alot of Brandism going on
For Example
the IK Media
Bus Comp sounds better than the UAD and Native SSL in a Mastering Situation...and Slate FG Grey, Sand 2 Comp and Townhouse Compressors...blows the Native SSL Bus Away...LOL...they cut their throats by not linking their Soft Hardware to good plugins...bottom line...LOL
Man…Acustica Audio, Slate and BX Townhome Comp..Sound about 90 times better now they are plug-ins sounded like that with that controller that will be a game changer
@@johnisrael5183 Never been a fan of Slate...and Acustica are way too unstable in my opinion...huge resources hogs - not to mention some fanatical supporters who seem to pounce on no -believers online for some reason. But each to their own. 👍
Brainworks TMT is a nonsensical gimmick, the compressor does not work well at all, and there is zero oversampling.
The internet is often funny...
This is SSL not BRAINWORX...and it does have over sampling..👍 😂
@@StudioLife101 One of you said that the Brainworx might have the edge. My comment is addressing that.
@@BojanBojovic Ahhh...OK...the Brainworx is spot on though...the comp works just like the real one to my ears...I worked on SSL for years.👍....but there's plenty of alternatives out there. What's your go to channel strip?
@@StudioLife101 I never worked with the real 4K console, however the BX dynamic section is the only one that differs a lot from all the others, I personally do not like it as the input need to be driven 6 to 10 db higher to get similar results, even then it does not "bite" as much as others. With that being said, SSL Native Channel Strip 2 Gate does not have that famous CLICK when it is used with fast attack settings, BX, EV2, CLA, all have it so not sure how faithful the SSL native plugins are. :)
This is all gear snobbery of course, oversampling is important but not crucial, the fact that a plugin does not work the same as a real thing (which also does not work the same as other consoles of the same kind all around the world) means nothing really. A good song, good performer, and good engineer is probably 90% of a good product, the gear must be very bad to stop those 3 to give a good finished product in the end. :)
I have them all, maybe EV2 and CLA MixHub are used most of the time, I do not like BX because of how the dynamic section works, also TMT is really funny.
@@BojanBojovic Well said. It's all about the song and the engineer.👍