C60 & Copper Peptides For Hair Growth? Medical Editor Reacts
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- Опубліковано 29 чер 2024
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Do ingredients like carbon 60 (c60) and copper peptides (GHK-Cu) improve hair loss? The answers might surprise you.
Recently, Jay Campbell and Nick Andrews appeared on Ben Greenfield's podcast to discuss their company - Aseir Custom - and a new dual topical product formulated for hair regrowth: Auxano Grow.
Its two key ingredients? A copper peptide known as GHK-Cu, and an antioxidant-like molecule known as carbon 60 - also called c60.
Jay Campbell has claimed that this product is, “The World’s Most Powerful Hair Regrowth Solution”. He has also written promotional emails claiming that, "Nick and I have solved the age old dilemma of Hair Loss."
So, are copper peptides and c60 truly effective in the fight against hair loss? Can these ingredients stop the progression of pattern hair loss (androgenic alopecia)? Can copper peptides and C-60 regrow hair in men and women? And is this product worth the $250 recurring price tag?
In this reaction video, we'll uncover my take on the data (and my personal opinions on C-60, GHK-Cu, and Auxano Grow).
Specifically, we'll dive into C60 and GHK-Cu: what they are, how they work, and their potential effects on human hair regrowth. We'll also uncover if the marketing materials on Aseir Custom's website align with scientific reality.
As a medical editor who specializes in hair loss disorders, I can't emphasize enough how important it is to scrutinize product claims. The hair loss industry is filled with deception and dishonesty - particularly in its scientific communication to consumers. This why I prioritize education - not product purchases - for hair loss sufferers. Education is perhaps the most effective way to teach people how to make the right treatment choices.
If you have any questions, please feel free to reach out in the comments.
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0:00 - Introduction
2:50 - What Is Auxano Grow?
3:11 - Copper Peptides (GHK-Cu)
5:43 - GHK-Cu: Marketing Vs. Reality
12:38 - Carbon 60 (C60)
14:51 - C60: Marketing Vs. Reality
18:50 - Before/After Analysis
22:14 - Sales Copy Analysis
25:38 - Conclusions
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About Rob English:
-Editorial board member of Dermatology and Therapy
-Medical editor specializing in hair loss disorders
-Peer-reviewed publications: perfecthairhealth.com/publica...
UPDATE: Jay Campbell has posted a response video: ua-cam.com/video/WC_p7rGIx_k/v-deo.html
Inside the video, Jay asserts that I am trained by big pharma and that I have the worst hair style he has ever seen. He does not address a single point of criticism that I raised in my video. Instead, he defends the efficacy of Auxano Grow by saying that he is receiving 2-3 five-star reviews daily on his product, and that these reviews are strong enough evidence to demonstrate that his product is working.
What he fails to mention is that he has been sending out email incentives to his customers - offering them 50% off Auxano Grow in exchange for a video review where someone tells the world how much they love Auxano Grow.
As of this morning, Jay has deleted the comment he left on my video (the one where he offered to debate me and stated I have been brainwashed by big pharma). Last night, I left a comment on his video where I raised a few points of concern with his comments toward me. As of this morning, my comment appears to have been deleted.
The good news? In Jay's response video, he says he is putting together a clinical trial with Vantis! Jay acts as an affiliate for Vantis, and they're the company that did his scalp micropigmentation procedure. Barring the glaring conflicts of interest with this sort of partnership in a clinical trial, I am super excited for it to happen. I've asked Jay to provide the clinical trial number, and I also offered to help him with study design free of charge.
If anyone is curious, my reply to Jay's video can be found below.
--REPLY TO JAY'S VIDEO--
Hey Jay! I appreciate you putting out this video. I wanted to clarify a few things:
-I’m sorry that you don’t like my haircut! I’m not sure what relevance this has to the points I raised in my video: specifically, whether Auxano Grow is supported by sound science, and how that science is conveyed to consumers.
-I’ve never had a hair transplant, and I don’t wear a hair system or use hair fibers.
-I have never worked for any pharmaceutical company - not even as a medical editor. I’m a consumer advocate first and foremost. I’m also not trained by big pharma. We already had an exchange about this, so I was surprised to see you falsely suggest this here when I had previously told you it was untrue.
-People have forwarded me recent emails from your team offering 50% off bottles of Auxano Grow in exchange for “a 30-60 second Video Testimonial saying how much you love Aseir and how it's transformed your life”. My guess is that this might skew your testimonials. Many people consider this an indirect way to buy reviews at scale. As such, I don’t think these reviews are a fair rebuttal to the concerns I raised in the video about efficacy.
-I would never attack someone’s spirituality. If my reaction to your site’s tagline came off that way to you, I sincerely apologize. I did not know that the tagline was of spiritual significance. When I read it, I interpreted it as meaning any number of things.
-My issue is not with you, your spirituality, or your haircut. My issue is with Aseir Custom’s scientific communication to consumers.
-I’m thrilled to hear you’re going to do a clinical trial. Would you mind passing along the clinical trial number once it is registered? In that regard, I’d be happy to look at your trial design and comment on potential areas where I see opportunities to improve data quality without raising the budget (and I’ll do that for free).
-Since your video doesn't include any scientific rebuttals to the points I raised in my video, I’m limited in what else I can say. I’m looking forward to any objections you raise!
what is your current regimen
Classy response. Too many scammers out there.
Not only are you helping us sift through the data on hair loss science you are teaching us how to interpret scientific data and read scientific publications. Very beneficial, thank you!
This is the only guy on the internet we can trust!!! Breath of fresh hair!! Air*****
Thank you for being genuine Rob, not many like you left
Great job Rob!! Thank you.
Excellent job dude u have earned a subscriber
So helpful, thanks for this great video Rob. I listened to that podcast a few months ago and was extremely skeptical as well.
Thanks Sinan! Skepticism is healthy, particularly with bold claims. My hope is that the makers of Auxano Grow set up a clinical trial so that they can substantiate claims rather than open themselves up to a truth-in-advertising lawsuit.
Amazing video. I was looking into getting Auxano until I saw this video
Very interesting ! Thanks !
Stellar presentation again Rob! Keep these awesome vids coming!
Thank you!
The best guy when it comes to hair loss ! Btw , your hair look amazing
Thank you!
This is very very good video. I learn a lot of scientific mindset towards researches.
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching.
This guy is doing a great job.
Good job.
Great video Rob as always. I don’t know how these companies are allowed to make the claims they do and basically lie to get the sales uptake. Hair loss is such a sensitive issue for those of suffering from it and they really play on this desperation to find a cure or even a product that actually does what it says it does. Can’t wait for the next video. Regards, Simon. (UK)
Excellent video Rob! Keep the longer videos coming!
I've been personally using *AHK-Cu* not GHK-Cu for over 6 months now primarily to combat premature greying because I think it has some merit in that regard. I compound the AHK-Cu myself, I don't buy it premade. And honestly, I've seen some marginal regrowth as a fringe benefit. It's important to note that I use certain novel/exotic vehicles to enhance the permeation kinetics of AHK (416.9 Da) and to achieve sufficient dermal delivery. So, from my own personal anecdote, GHK doesn't work but AHK might have marginal merit if it's genuine, pure AHK-Cu and if it's delivered in an effective manner. I know I use >99.5% purity AHK-Cu because I test it via FTIR and HPLC.
That’s super interesting! Thank you for sharing. What prompted you to take interest in AHK-Cu and start compounding / testing your own formulation?
As always, I appreciate your continued comments and perspectives!
@@skillzset1066 Thanks! Just read the comment. Also, feel free to email me any time you'd like to have a discussion offline (contact info is on the site).
@@PerfectHairHealth Awesome! Thanks for letting me know. Will drop you an email in the next few days 👍
Hi @Skillz Set,
as I’m having the same concerns as you (some greying,need for regrowth),I’m highly interested in trying AHK-Cu,so I’m wondering if you could kindly share with me your source for it.
Hi Skill set, would you be willing to share your process? I’m interested. Let me know and I’ll send you my email address.
Dude....that rabbit and the lasers....killin me
I don't know why anyone online tries to throw shade at Rob. Beyond being the nicest and most well-mannered guy on YT - he brings so much scientific and logical pain to the haters.
So good. So good.
Thanks! I’m controversial because (1) my hair loss pattern is DUPA which is harder to see on camera, (2) I responded well to a poorly studied experimental intervention (and then published a study about it), and (3) I think scalp tension might accelerate AGA. Beyond that, none of my opinions or interpretations of the literature deviate that significantly from others. Thanks a ton for watching.
I read most of that same study and yes the hair length and thickness never changed but the hair count per cm2 did improve significantly.
What bothers me about Rob's comments is he knows full well the "thickness" of the hair really isn't going to legitimarely change until the hair falls out and then regrows.
So they it begs to question why he didn't quote the duration of the study.
Can anyone link the study? I can't seem to find it anywhere...@@enigmatics101
So what did you ultimately end up using on your hair out of curiosity
Appreciate you Rob. Smelled BS on this product and I hadn’t even read any of the “clinical studies” they provided
Thank you! I’m always open to revising my opinion, but I was very disappointed to see the negative data on both of these ingredients, at least in terms of hair regrowth in humans.
Great video, thanks for calling out this scammer. What’s hilarious is that you have double the subscribers he has and get way more views.
💕 Yayyy thank you for exposing these fraudsters to the unsuspecting victims that might have fallen for this. 🥰
Does the study that you mentioned at the start of the video have a significant statsictic for hair count after 6 month?
what do you think about redensyl!
Is it worth our attention? does anyone grow hair with redensyl?
Thank you. I just canceled my order. I don’t know why people can be so evil and lie.
Good job exposing these scam artists
Thanks a lot Rob for the great video, would you be able to make a video on homeopathic medicine that claim can stop or partially reverse male pattern hair loss? really like to know your opinion about homeopathic medicine like (Arnica, R89, Lycopodium Clavatum, Silicea, etc.). Keep up the good work!
Thank you! I'll add these to the list!
Wow, just wow. For all the BS content creators out there, you are not one of them. Amazing stuff keep it up brother
Is there anything for hair color at all?? I really need any information
Look up fo-ti root ( fo ti he shue wu )
2:13 It says "Up to 90-Day Supply"
*"Up to"*
So basically it's anything between 0 and 90. So at MOST you'd be looking at 250 dollars four times a year. That's 80 dollars a month!
Exactly! Barring a discount or opting for recurring delivery, you’re looking at spending close to $1,000 per year. You can see how easily these costs can creep up on someone - not just for this product, but for any product.
I still want to leave the door open for the possibility of this product having a beneficial effect on our hair - even if the current data suggest that these ingredients demonstrate no difference versus placebo across most human hair-related endpoints.
Regardless, the lacking (and mostly negative) evidence must be communicated properly in marketing materials, especially at these price points.
I didn’t bother getting into safety, but I also have major concerns about C60’s safety profile when used as a topical. One study found that in mice exposed to degraded C60 (due to sunlight exposure), health outcomes and lifespan dramatically diminished.
These are things consumers should weigh when considering whether a product is worth the investment, or if a product is better than what else is already out there.
@@PerfectHairHealth Rob! Thanks for replying. I've got a burning question that you HAVE to answer!
In your nizoral video you talk about how p.acnes can accelerate hair loss. I imagine then that the skin flora is important.
Can food and grease in your hair cause bad bacteria to grow?
It's a little embarrassing. But I have, on more than one occasion, done the scalp massage and realized I've had some grease, or even sticky food residue on my hands.
And it's not like I can wash my hair a billion times a day lol. Maybe you can't give a confident answer. But do you think it'd be a cause for concern at all?
Also on an unrelated note. Your scalp massages are killer! Dunno if I'm a hyper-responder, but my scalp has definitely gotten looser over the past 3 months!
the term isn't cherry picking, its "scam"
I just mixed a batch of c60 in Bison tallow lol
How has it been working? I have some thinning + flaky scalp and I'd like to try tallow
@@abram_gw as far as mixing the c60 into tallow, it was a challenge to keep the tallow warm enough to be liquid but the end result is purple tallow! Not sure how safe it is to eat tallow that's been warm for over a week but it smelled identical to a fresh opened jar of tallow so I decided to eat it. It tasted unspoiled and Still alive so that's cool! I'm going to upload a very brief of the mixing process. No hair report, just a fan of c60!
Rob,how can I reverse traction alopecia?
The first step is ALWAYS to stop creating the traction. The next step often involves assessing whether that traction has resulted in scarring or non-scarring forms of traction alopecia, and then decide on an action plan.
It also help to cure your leaky gut.
Ben greenfield should be ashamed, just shilling them refer all links
Will you ever sell those wooden massagers to non members?
We've been testing out these massage tools with members, and we're having a lot of fun with the trial-and-error process. Some of the results reported by members have been incredible.
In general, I'm apprehensive to start selling physical products. The reason is simple: the moment someone starts selling physical products, they open themselves up to biasing research in favor of selling those products - consciously or otherwise.
I see this scenario all the time: a company starts selling a supplement / topical / device for hair loss, and then new research emerges to refute the efficacy of that product,. But rather than stop selling that product or change its formulation, the company just starts cherry-picking data to misrepresent its effectiveness to consumers.
I never want to do that, which is why we've avoided selling physical products since starting the site. Rather, we choose to fund our own research / support the site through selling information, services, and the personal time of both me and my research team. The massage tools are just one way that we try to give back to those inside our membership. They're free for everyone inside, and they're not available elsewhere. On that note, we have a few innovations to the tools coming soon - and we hope to roll these out to members ASAP.
You can easily make these tools yourself. I took two pieces of wood and sculpted them a little bit.
What kind of massager are we talking about? There are a lot of different kinds of wooden brushes etc you can buy online.
I highly enjoyed the video. I am a little perplexed by the irony though. In the sense that scalp massages don't really meet the scientific research standards you're applying here either...
That's 100% correct! The scalp massages are built on mechanistic data, interventional clinical data in non-balding men, and cross-sectional survey studies measuring self-assessments. That all equates to low qualities of evidence!
I think the two big differences are that (1) we're very open about this, and (2) the massages are also free - including the PDF and video demonstration a part of our 2019 study. In other words, we're not trying to obfuscate the data (or its quality), nor are we trying to sell anyone the free video on massaging.
Thanks, Rob.
Jay Campbell's a well-known snake oil salesman.
Provexin
"medical editor"? lol
Look it up!
Spoiler alert there’s no cure for male pattern hair loss.
Correct mineral deficiencies, detox heavy metals like cadmium, thallium, and mercury, and lower systemic inflammation. But that's not really a "cure" it's just correcting the dysfunctional metabolism
I saw the guy on a pod cast and i kept thinking this guy is a pretty knowledgeable con man. Makes me wonder if his knowledge of peptide science is concrete.