Correcting a Severe Overbite or Overjet

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КОМЕНТАРІ • 226

  • @naufrago7676
    @naufrago7676 3 роки тому +23

    Damn, straight to the point and very informative. Thank you SO MUCH

  • @prestonhawthorne1949
    @prestonhawthorne1949 4 роки тому +61

    " So they can both be shitty together" lmaoo

  • @BraveNewgirl100
    @BraveNewgirl100 4 роки тому +24

    Thank you for the work you are doing! I have had to figure out how to reconstruct my jaw due to bad ortho I received as a kid. Just say No to Extractions!
    I’m getting bi-max surgery very soon. I’m Excited to finally have a level Cant and the counter clockwise rotation.

    • @operationleyenda6976
      @operationleyenda6976 4 роки тому

      Well I have Surgically assisted MSE. So I'm currently expanding right now. Also I got miniplates on lower arch to increase overjet through distalization. Then I'll have MSDO+BSSO+ Genio or MSDO(maybe)+IMDO + Genio. I would like to know more about what your doing email me at christianwolf300@gmail.com. Also are you getting MSE?

  • @jayinderkaushik
    @jayinderkaushik 3 роки тому +6

    I did a bunch and bunch or research before even knowing about this video and i came to the same conclusions. Distraction just might be the best option.

  • @LokeshSharmaa
    @LokeshSharmaa 2 роки тому

    I like the way you talk. Very straightforward.

  • @WhatIveLearned
    @WhatIveLearned 2 роки тому +20

    Really interesting channel.

  • @operationleyenda6976
    @operationleyenda6976 4 роки тому +6

    Also Ron IMDO after finishing distraction you can start exercise right after. So it’s 10-12 days of turning after that you can resume any physical activity. 40 days later you get it surgically removed and recover for 4 days. After 6 weeks you can chew hard foods again. In order for IMDO to work you need upper jaw expansion first your upper molars must overlap your lower molars so you’ll need to expand your upper jaw 8-10 mm with MSE/SMARPE/DOME or Sarpe and have at least an 8mm overjet cause remember it also widens your mandible so if your upper jaw isn’t significantly wider than your lower at time of distraction you will end up in a Brodie bite.

    • @HassanKhan-py2vl
      @HassanKhan-py2vl 3 роки тому

      Great explanation. Do you know anyone who performs this surgery in the United States? If not, where in the world is this surgery performed?

  • @Ali-pw2cv
    @Ali-pw2cv 4 роки тому +3

    Thanks for the video Ronald! can you make an updates video on the facemask, its benefits, side effects?

  • @clc-gl4jn
    @clc-gl4jn 4 роки тому +60

    Seems you should be an orthodontist with your own business. You are very knowledgeable; more than most orthodontists will tell about!...

    • @atillagamercheto9132
      @atillagamercheto9132 3 роки тому +9

      Idk man not sure about that

    • @blackjains1434
      @blackjains1434 3 роки тому +6

      This guy knows nothing. Wtf are u talking about 🤣

    • @goofy7591
      @goofy7591 3 роки тому +12

      Imagine you walk into the orthodontists office and it’s this guy sitting there... you sit down and he goes “so you could pull two fucking teeth out but that’s a shitty option so your next shitty option... etc”

  • @gothesmiths
    @gothesmiths 3 роки тому +7

    BRUH UR JUST BRILLIANT AGHHHH

  • @Ladoblep_22
    @Ladoblep_22 4 роки тому +8

    Thanks for the video:)

  • @tungngothanh3194
    @tungngothanh3194 Рік тому +1

    thank you so much for the information

  • @jamessimpson9690
    @jamessimpson9690 3 роки тому

    Is there a list of IMDO providers? This seems like the best solution, no nerve damage, shorter surgery, etc, and widens. But it seems there are no providers in the US.

  • @Ron-kq5pk
    @Ron-kq5pk 4 роки тому +6

    Ron, what are your plans for your teeth health once you achieve your correct bite.

  • @danielamadalina6266
    @danielamadalina6266 3 роки тому +3

    What about crowded teeth? My maxilla isnt smaller than mandible, they are both the same. If i get MSE than my maxilla is gonna be to big for my mandible. My only way would be extractions, but im scared of ruining my face

  • @gasoline520
    @gasoline520 3 роки тому +7

    My dentist wants to extract 4 of my teeth because I have crowding

    • @TeoMdl
      @TeoMdl 2 роки тому

      Did you let him?

  • @NathanaelPetucci
    @NathanaelPetucci 4 роки тому +6

    I had an overbite as a child so I had a herbst appliance to pull my mandible forward. Very fortunate in my case because I had no recession for the maxilla. Downside is my maxilla probably didn't grow as forward as it could have since a herbst appliance discourages forward maxillary growth.

    • @Ufhhh12
      @Ufhhh12 4 роки тому +3

      its different with a child because the mandible can still grow at puberty
      but if u dont treat it before puberty the overbite will "block" the growth of the mandible

    • @peterg7764
      @peterg7764 4 роки тому +1

      I had a herbst appliance too. They’re very strange. It’s definitely better than extraction/retraction. But it does seem to prevent forward growth which sucks. At least my airway is fine.

  • @martinortiz5390
    @martinortiz5390 3 роки тому +2

    Damn what a great and detailed explanation. Thanks dude👍

  • @ambermann6247
    @ambermann6247 3 роки тому +2

    Wish I would have know this 12 years ago before I had my wisdom teeth removed :(

  • @operationleyenda6976
    @operationleyenda6976 4 роки тому +38

    I will be the first person in the world to do SMARPE with IMDO+ Genio

  • @JessiCat1980
    @JessiCat1980 2 роки тому +6

    I have a 100% overbite, therefore, when I line up my front teeth, none of my other teeth even touch. It's made my chin look too small for my face and my smile silly looking. Even if I were to get this appliance to make my bottom jaw bigger, I still would have the problem that my front teeth completely cover my bottom front teeth. The only thing I can think of would be to add huge implanted molars so my back teeth would touch when lined up. I've never met anyone with a mouth like mine. Any suggestions is appreciated.

    • @sabir5596
      @sabir5596 2 роки тому +3

      I have the same condition, if I would place my top 4 incisors on the bottom 4 , no other teeth touch. I thought this was normal until I discovered about mewing few days ago...

    • @JessiCat1980
      @JessiCat1980 2 роки тому

      @@sabir5596 I will have to look up 'mewing'. Ty

    • @sabir5596
      @sabir5596 2 роки тому +1

      @@JessiCat1980WAIT NO, I meant to say that i was reading about mewing and stuff and how it improves the face structure and that's when I got to know that there's an ideal teeth position.
      Some people do say that mewing helped improve their overbite/deepbite but it can worsen the overbite too , so yeah.

    • @nurzhanualiev2841
      @nurzhanualiev2841 11 місяців тому +1

      I have the same condition. I wonder whether reversing it counter clockwise surgically will fix the problem

  • @swagpeach9850
    @swagpeach9850 3 роки тому

    But I thought mandible size for overjets are mainly similar it's just the position that's off

  • @Anthony-by8re
    @Anthony-by8re 4 роки тому +22

    I had the first option done and it’s ruined my health and I now have TMJ. Now that AGGA has proven to be dangerous what else can I do?

    • @westernrev9628
      @westernrev9628 4 роки тому +1

      U have jaw clicking on one side when oben ur bite?

    • @jared3970
      @jared3970 4 роки тому +2

      I have jaw clicking on one side. I currently wear the DNA appliance which has slightly helped so far

    • @Anthony-by8re
      @Anthony-by8re 4 роки тому

      Chico Rose it’s both sides but one is worse

    • @Anthony-by8re
      @Anthony-by8re 4 роки тому

      Jared is DNA remodeling/growing the bone?

    • @prince_sach50
      @prince_sach50 4 роки тому

      SAME extractions gave me TMJ

  • @mathisfournier929
    @mathisfournier929 3 роки тому +1

    what about getting mse for a couple of months and getting braces for a couple more to correct a minimal overjet?

  • @marcelletalksmma
    @marcelletalksmma 3 роки тому

    What can you do if the over bite is sudden(2 weeks) can you undo it?

  • @maddylam9455
    @maddylam9455 3 роки тому

    it seems it is said that intrusion of the whole maxilla can aid in autorotation of thew mandible...? is this not correct, I am not sure. But if you an anterior open bite - and you intrude the upper posterior with tads that you will get the counterclockwise rotation of the mandible as the bite closes, correct? cases say this and also I have been told this. Do you info on this

  • @UltimateAleks
    @UltimateAleks 4 роки тому +2

    What you get with upswing/CCR? Do you get wider face?

  • @Shira1O1
    @Shira1O1 3 роки тому +1

    What do u think if I have overjet and I’m getting cariere motion??

  • @insidehor
    @insidehor 4 роки тому +2

    Are the expansion screws only available for 8,10,12 mm? Could there be less like 6mm Maximum? Or could there be more like 15 or 20mm? Thanks Ronald

  • @yoa9960
    @yoa9960 3 роки тому +4

    Just learn how to mew, look it up, it helps by lowering your jaw and pushing the bottom part out, it takes some years to get that chizzled correct looking jaw structure

  • @rosealfidi9510
    @rosealfidi9510 4 роки тому +2

    What about the Homeoblock?

  • @fredericlemire7248
    @fredericlemire7248 3 роки тому

    I would let this guy explain anything to me.

  • @giova3182
    @giova3182 24 дні тому

    does anyone know who does IMDO and MSE in italy??

  • @Ib90
    @Ib90 3 роки тому +1

    So how did you correct your overbite?
    After double jaw surgery is finished and bone has grown can you still get mse to expand the Maxilla?

    • @user-su3wu5fc5j
      @user-su3wu5fc5j 4 місяці тому

      Should have been the opposite.
      Mse first then surgery

  • @levxty2828
    @levxty2828 3 роки тому +3

    I hve a 14mm overjet😐

  • @zonoka9609
    @zonoka9609 4 роки тому +2

    dumb question: can SFOT facilitate the growth of wisdom teeth?

  • @callmegeo3319
    @callmegeo3319 4 роки тому +6

    Is there any point in getting imdo if the maxilla is still gonna be recessed?

    • @spiscold50
      @spiscold50 3 роки тому +1

      They do something called SuperBimax which combines Double jaw surgery and IMDO, check it out

  • @pissapalli3977
    @pissapalli3977 4 роки тому +4

    didint john mew say that he can make the jaw grow forwards when hes correcting an overbite?

  • @abhayrawat1668
    @abhayrawat1668 2 роки тому

    What about palate expansion

  • @prince_sach50
    @prince_sach50 4 роки тому

    I have this issue right now as well as a narrow palate should I do MSE before I consider the IMDO or Bimax surgeries?

    • @operationleyenda6976
      @operationleyenda6976 4 роки тому +2

      Yes do MSE/DOME FIRST as it is usually required for Lower jaw advancement

  • @callmekells802
    @callmekells802 4 роки тому +6

    This happened to me. I used to have INCREDIBLE bone structure and tongue posture and then I got top 2 wisdom removed and both bottom wisdom removed when I was 19, and I’m 21 now and I have lost a depressing amount of volume in the lower half of my face and my tongue has also dropped to the bottom of my mouth. Extremely depressing. I also suffer from a classic 100% deepbite so mewing is a little difficult for me. My jaw has retruded back a disgusting amount as well as my chin and have really lost my cheekbones. I look aged. I’m honestly considering getting 4 implants 2 on top 2 on bottom to regrow my jaw.

  • @rossm2853
    @rossm2853 3 роки тому

    what about myobrace or stage 3 biobloc?

  • @sensful2905
    @sensful2905 2 роки тому

    What about herbts appliances

  • @vcxz4009
    @vcxz4009 3 роки тому +3

    if your overbite isn't that severe, will braces fix it?

    • @Steffi5376
      @Steffi5376 3 роки тому

      Braces retract your teeth so no it will do the same as extractions and push your top teeth back (what happened to me)

    • @TeoMdl
      @TeoMdl 2 роки тому

      If your overbite is not severe thats grear cause you can fix it, but not with braces, in my opinion people should only rely on braces to straighten teeth maybe in conjunction with some other treatment, but never as a way to fix issues, it messes up the face even if it looks like its fixing the problem

  • @Moominteapot
    @Moominteapot 2 роки тому +1

    ugh, i had like 4 teeth extracted a kid.
    Braces i swear for like 5 years .
    front teeth still overlapping and recessed jaw and can't breathe and a lifetime of ugliness, yeah the dentist really fucked me over.

  • @fnando1281
    @fnando1281 4 роки тому +25

    Mewing won't help fixing an overbite? Dr. Mew did suggest that in a video. Love to read your thoughts on it

    • @NikNakPattieWak
      @NikNakPattieWak 3 роки тому

      I cant fit my tongue between my teeth to mew

    • @scientific3133
      @scientific3133 Рік тому

      ​@@NikNakPattieWak Then you need to increase the size of the palate using other methods. I.e. MSE.

    • @user-su3wu5fc5j
      @user-su3wu5fc5j 4 місяці тому

      It's slow, only works for a child and teen

  • @zulusulu4956
    @zulusulu4956 3 роки тому +1

    John mew says overjet are easily corrected at Any age so I do not think you’re in the right picture here

  • @codecampbase1525
    @codecampbase1525 3 роки тому +1

    Your options are incomplete. Herbst Appliance can grow and fix an overbite even in adults.

  • @markosabdallah4796
    @markosabdallah4796 4 роки тому +1

    How far do the upper teeth have to overlap the lowers for it to be considered an overbite

    • @operationleyenda6976
      @operationleyenda6976 4 роки тому

      8mm atleast 11mm ideally

    • @jonis7989
      @jonis7989 4 роки тому +3

      @@operationleyenda6976 "Ideally" is a interesting choice of words for something bad.

    • @operationleyenda6976
      @operationleyenda6976 4 роки тому

      Jonis oh my bad I was thinking about required overjet for IMDO.

    • @saryarabah3387
      @saryarabah3387 4 роки тому

      Eric wait mine is a 6 probably 5 mm gap but why is it not closing with my elastics

    • @operationleyenda6976
      @operationleyenda6976 4 роки тому

      Sarya Rabah I would try to increase overbite and do lower jaw surgery

  • @yoloaf1055
    @yoloaf1055 3 роки тому +2

    Do mewing fix a recessed chin?

    • @TeoMdl
      @TeoMdl 2 роки тому

      Some people say theirs has improved, i think it does, its just really slow like with all the other benefits of mewing in general

  • @fatimav441
    @fatimav441 4 роки тому +3

    If I've never had extractions done, and have my four wisdom teeth (didnt erupted) can MSE make the come out?

    • @operationleyenda6976
      @operationleyenda6976 4 роки тому

      Fátima v if your an adult no

    • @kseniyazarubina5484
      @kseniyazarubina5484 4 роки тому

      None of them?

    • @fatimav441
      @fatimav441 4 роки тому

      @@kseniyazarubina5484 not even one

    • @kseniyazarubina5484
      @kseniyazarubina5484 3 роки тому

      @Rishi Monty I can help you, but will you listen? My advice is beyond controversial.

    • @kseniyazarubina5484
      @kseniyazarubina5484 3 роки тому +1

      @Rishi Monty Google Aajonus Vonderplanitz, eat completely raw diet predominantly consisting of raw meat. Get the toughest cuts you can and chew as much as possible, build up your tongue's strength and jaw muscles with chewing on tough raw meat.

  • @kseniyazarubina5484
    @kseniyazarubina5484 3 роки тому +31

    I'd rather see what I can do naturally.

    • @wesleysavage444
      @wesleysavage444 3 роки тому +8

      hahahahaha

    • @lonelystoner8594
      @lonelystoner8594 3 роки тому +10

      Meowing

    • @naufrago7676
      @naufrago7676 3 роки тому +4

      Good look with that

    • @Dondon-wt5mw
      @Dondon-wt5mw 3 роки тому +1

      @@lonelystoner8594 im currently mewing but my maulers aren’t making contact with eachother, but the front of my teeth are, and im forcing my mandible so my front teeth touch. If i relax my jaw then my maulers touch but my front teeth wont be making contact with eachother anymore even tho mewing while making my front teeth touch looks better than my maulers being the one making contact? What should i do? Keep forcing my mandible so my front teeth touch or let it be “normal” as in over bite and let my maulers make contact with eachother?

    • @bodzarnpertrvick2869
      @bodzarnpertrvick2869 3 роки тому

      @@Dondon-wt5mw mewing wont fix an overbite, it will make your whole jaw come forward, but the overbite will stay, on the other hand, the underbite can be fixed with mewing. So if you want to fix an overbite you have to get something mentioned in the video. As for just mewing, you should keep as many teeth in contact (very light contact) as possible, preferably your molars and go from there.

  • @matthewmerriman1261
    @matthewmerriman1261 4 роки тому

    Doesnt DJS often relapse tho however?

  • @Spicy_Matt
    @Spicy_Matt 4 роки тому

    Anyone have any luck finding an oral surgeon that does IMDO in the US? Or do I have to go Australia to see the goat Dr Paul Coceancig

    • @operationleyenda6976
      @operationleyenda6976 4 роки тому

      christianwolf300@gmail.com i can give you all the info you need.

    • @operationleyenda6976
      @operationleyenda6976 4 роки тому

      Dr. Paul charges $9k for IMDO $30K hospital fees

    • @operationleyenda6976
      @operationleyenda6976 4 роки тому

      Profilo America surgeon charges only $13-$15k for IMDO that’s it

    • @operationleyenda6976
      @operationleyenda6976 4 роки тому

      Rollie I gave you price for IMDO and it’s actually $11-$12k that’s it everything included.

    • @operationleyenda6976
      @operationleyenda6976 4 роки тому

      @Rollie christianwolf300@gmail.com
      For IMDO no payment plans need $12k ready before surgery.

  • @mel-dn5jn
    @mel-dn5jn 3 роки тому

    im cracking up while crying about being fucked v___v

  • @yep9817
    @yep9817 3 роки тому +1

    BSSO or IMDO

  • @nemonemo8430
    @nemonemo8430 4 роки тому +1

    Didn´t Mew said that people who get surgery relapses after a couple of years?

    • @Ufhhh12
      @Ufhhh12 4 роки тому +3

      well if he said that he is an idiot
      once the bone fills in with these surgeries it wont go back to normal every

    • @Ufhhh12
      @Ufhhh12 4 роки тому +1

      @@Dylan-lq4xv post it, how can bimax for example remax? Surgeons literally fix it with 2 screws

    • @andrewchristie3139
      @andrewchristie3139 4 роки тому +6

      I can't imagine relapse would happen if you practice proper tongue posture after the surgery.

    • @prince_sach50
      @prince_sach50 4 роки тому

      @@andrewchristie3139 same

    • @operationleyenda6976
      @operationleyenda6976 4 роки тому

      Is Mike Mew an Oral maxillofacial surgeon? No so he has no authority to speak on that.

  • @The_Recon
    @The_Recon 4 роки тому +4

    there is another option you didn't talk about, it's called carriere motion appliance. what it does is it pushes the maxilla backwards to match the lower jaw but without extractions. that would be a great option for someone who has maxillary protrusion without necessarily a bad lower jaw.

    • @nahmed1264
      @nahmed1264 4 роки тому

      Hi that’s what I have been advised for a 9mm over jet Damon system with no extractions to push and widen the top teeth back and bands to align my lower jaw slightly bring it forward in line

    • @livewireredb.9953
      @livewireredb.9953 3 роки тому

      I going to ask my orthodontist about this because my lower jaw isn't that bad.

  • @demirhasicic1400
    @demirhasicic1400 3 роки тому

    What about elastics with braces?

    • @TeoMdl
      @TeoMdl 2 роки тому

      I personally wouldnt do that

  • @emilesaayman4255
    @emilesaayman4255 4 роки тому +7

    Is it possible to do MSE and follow it up with DSSO or IMDO?

  • @callmegeo3319
    @callmegeo3319 4 роки тому +2

    How much does double jaw surgery normally cost?

  • @astroskyofficial
    @astroskyofficial 4 роки тому +17

    :( i dont wannnnaaaa get surgery

    • @andrewgarfield9898
      @andrewgarfield9898 4 роки тому +8

      It’s not like you need it. You’re literally perfect already :(

    • @greenbudgieplays8092
      @greenbudgieplays8092 4 роки тому +6

      @@andrewgarfield9898 But he has an overbite, it doesn't matter how u look like on the outside.

    • @andrewgarfield9898
      @andrewgarfield9898 4 роки тому +1

      GreenBudgiePlays overbite my ass. I wish I had his “overbite”. If I looked like him I’d be so happy

    • @greenbudgieplays8092
      @greenbudgieplays8092 4 роки тому +6

      @@andrewgarfield9898 He could still look significantly better if he fixed the overbite.

    • @greenbudgieplays8092
      @greenbudgieplays8092 4 роки тому +5

      @@andrewgarfield9898 If his overbite was fixed, his face will look more symmetrical.

  • @grzegorz16100
    @grzegorz16100 3 роки тому

    What about MARA or Herbst appliance?

  • @dashrathbhanushali3050
    @dashrathbhanushali3050 4 роки тому

    What about appliances like herbst

  • @MrUnknownuser164
    @MrUnknownuser164 4 роки тому +7

    This guy has the wrong idea about bone development. Bone is not like rock just because it's hard and durable. Bone is living tissue that's still regenerated, and rock is completely inanimate. Even if mewing can't fix every skeletal malformation, it can still have a positive effect over time. Patience is key; any true biological reformation is gradual. I don't care how well intentioned this guy is: he's playing with fire by portraying artificial enhancements and external appliances as a false savior.

    • @CarlosIbarra-mm3dt
      @CarlosIbarra-mm3dt 3 роки тому

      Yeah, but he kinda say it when he explained the imdo, as he said the bone after being cutted will slowly regenerate, just the rock example was not good

  • @amir-bz2he
    @amir-bz2he 4 роки тому +1

    are you even a dentist

    • @Ufhhh12
      @Ufhhh12 4 роки тому +7

      no
      but dentists has nothing to do with these surgeries anyways

    • @operationleyenda6976
      @operationleyenda6976 4 роки тому +2

      You do know it’s actually orthodontist who deals with bites and teeth really smh

    • @timmytim9054
      @timmytim9054 4 роки тому +1

      No because dentists don't specialize in topics like these lmao

    • @operationleyenda6976
      @operationleyenda6976 4 роки тому +1

      Dentist don’t know Jack shit about this

    • @american4280
      @american4280 4 роки тому +4

      A dentist would say extractions then braces. Do you wanna move your upper jaw back?