The AFL has a BIG UMPIRE PROBLEM
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- Опубліковано 21 сер 2024
- What is going on with AFL officiating? Is it the umpires? Is it those in charge of the rules? Or is it a combination of both? Whatever is going on is affecting the game and the outcome of matches. It has fans frustrated every week and the answers from AFL house only seem to be getting more complicated.
“Laura Kane denies all wrong doing”
The game is over umpired and the umpires are undertrained
Agreed
They aren't under trained, their is a holier than thou attitude and genuinely don't believe they can be wrong.
The profession attracts those with little man syndrome.
I have said for a long time that we should have full time umpires.
Then they can be better trained, it will bring more people into the industry and provide a career path.
Also, it will legitimise it more in people's mind and they will respect umpires more. They can be trained during the week, like players are.
The AFL don't want it though because it means paying more in wages and the umpires might unionise. Instead, they want umpires to be respected, while keeping them down themselves.
Elliott Yeo didn't drag it in, he was on hands and knees after the ball spills out from the tackle, how else was he supposed to pick up the ball before being tackled a micro second later? Everybody was saying that pinging a player running 24 metres without bouncing was not in the spirit of the game, but with Yeo anyone not an Eagles supporter are happy to perceive it technically under the letter of the law.
What makes that one worse is that the exact same thing happened 20 times earlier in the game, and it wasn't paid once.
Funnily enough, a West Coast player hasn't been pinged for one that hot since that game.
It was a clear mistake by the umpire that cost the Eagles a win.
im late, but sometimes it feels like umpires pay frees after something that was obviously a free kick, but to a different player to "make up for it". i think thats what happened there?
Jeremy Cameron was correct and in line. It was the “stand” rule that places the player on the mark on the wrong line
I'm starting to think that Razor Ray was a bad influence on the game, now umpires want to be the star of the show and make calls like the one in the Saints Suns game
Trouble is, he is a better umpire than most of the hacks pretending to be umpires now.
Great video, well done and well articulated given the frustration we have all felt watching AFL in the last few years.
appreciate it
And Cameron's non goal allowed costing Carlton 0.5% which may still cause the difference in a ladder position.
I think the excuse of “the pressure effects their calls” is rubbish. If that can’t handle pressure, they shouldn’t umpire. The same can be said for players, if they can’t handle the pressure of being in frount of thousands of people, then they’re obviously not ready to play.
Doesn't help help the increasing culture of players un-sportingly gaming the rules for unfair advantage (ducking, head flicks, faking impact, targeting players behind play, deliberate overkill contact intended hurt players, etc). While this behavior gets potentially rewarded but never punished the trend will only continue, and there seems to be a culture now of certain players considering it proud professional conduct to effectively skirt the rules like this.
It's impossible for umpires to review all unsporting play during games, they've got plenty to do already, and these calls are much easier to detect on review with footage. This is why I'd like to see the penalties come post game, something like initial offences getting a fine and a warning and subsequent offences getting games. Only a few have to cop it before other will think twice, could clean up the game very quickly.
I was at the Essendon Vs West Coast game on Sunday and in my view it was extremely poorly officiated for both sides. Shocking decisions used to occur about once a week in the AFL and now it’s multiple times per game. I think it’s only a matter of time until a big final is decided by a big call or non-call.
Everyone is complaining about Collingwood being advantaged. What about that BS call against Freo
Holding the ball needs to be clarified. How long does a player have to dispose of it? What constitutes the ball being knocked out of the tackle? When is it incorrect disposal? Simplify the rule and clarify it. It is ALL GREY. The issue is more with the administrators than the umpires. Make their job easier by simplifying and clarifying the rules.
The higher ups need to be more strict and concise so the coaches and teams know where we stand.
We can't keep things vague.
@abandonedstraya5264
The higher ups don't have a clue about the sport. Laura Kane has never played football before. How on earth does she know what it's like to be out on the ground in the pouring rain, on the bottom of a pack?
She has no idea. Yet she is one of the chiefs that decides how the game should be played.
Nothing will change for the good until people that have played the game at a reasonably high level are making the decisions.
White collar muppets who don't know how to hold a sherrin have no business being in charge.
I still have no idea how people feel the Draper example was "clearly" holding the ball.
He never took possession and was tackled immediately with Walker pinning the ball also.
You can’t jump on the ball or drag it in. Even if you don’t have a prior opportunity or possession of the ball.
@@ootychooty5139I understand the rules.
He never dived on the ball. Watch the ball get shoved back in with Tex's tackle.
But he dragged it in
Do you support Essendon?
@@slingblade8963he jumped onto the ball and just lay on it. Clearly holding the ball
There's been plenty of howlers this year, but the non-50 call against Collingwood was correct. Scott very clearly ran off his line which is why the 2 Pies players ran over the mark. The umpire was late to call the mark so he just gave the benefit of the doubt to both parties, honestly not sure why that one caused so much uproar.
100% agree. He took multiple steps playing on.
Not correct. Players are supposed to play to the whistle and umpire calls. A mark was paid. Whether you or Laura Kane think he ran around his mark is irrelevant. The umpire didn’t call play on so the Collingwood players had no right to charge over the mark. It’s never has been that players can anticipate what they think the umpire should call. Because he didn’t call play-on, 50m should have been called.
Haha, nice try. Which eye led to that interpretation?
He ran in the direction he was when he marked it, you only think it's off his line because he is running perpendicular to the goals. Forwards don't have to stop on a dime, instantly, when marking after a lead that's up and down the ground.
Umpire never called play on at all. Never called stand, pulled anyone back or anything. He called nothing at all ... Whatever you think it should be, it's not 'nothing'.
He only waited until the second play on to call it.
Also it was definitely 50 and there would be over 100 examples of the exact scenario in the past 5 years.
The media are hypocrites because they push the AFL 's line that umpiring is hard and we need to respect them, yet question every single decision on commentary.
Either toe the line the umpires are above criticism and don' t criticise them, or criticise them but don't then tell the rest of us we have to respect them. Pick a lane and stick to it.
Jordan Clark dessent call isn’t 50/50. The thing that was controversial is that Aish and Clark touched it before Cotrell marked it. And North fairly beat Eagles, Wardlaw was taken high but the umpire was too slow to react meaning the umpire was probably making up for it with the holding the ball call.
The setting is the elimination preliminary final in 2017 between Port Power & West Coast, prior to the extra time played due to the draw. Just prior to the throw-in at games end, an Eagles player pushed the ball into the point post, making it out of bounds. The problem here is that the umpire was immediately beside that player. That umpire should have indicated that the Eagles player pushed the ball into the post deliberately, making it a Port free. Any kick from that position would most likely have resulted in a score, either a goal or a behind. It is very unlikely to have been a non-score & Port would have been in the GF, not the Eagles.
As it was in the aftermath, Luke Shuey dropped in a tackle & was awarded a free, which should have been called "play on". He kicked a goal. Shuey was doing this drop at the knees & and lifted the arm for many years, as did Joel Selwood. I despise cheats. Thus, WC cheated themselves into a GF.
I'm neither an Eagles nor a Port fan. I barrack for the Swans, but I hate injustice & that includes the goal kicked last year that would've put the Crows into the finals.
The Eagles didn't make the GF that season. We got hammered by GWS the week after.
Neither Port nor WCE were going near a GF that season.
@@StuTheDon17 You are correct. It was the 1st elimination final & Port got ousted. Eagles should never have played the next game. It was 2017. Eagles should not have won that game & the umpires screwed that one. Reminder, I'm neither a Port nor an Eagles fan.
Seeing the digital court technology that was used at the NBA all-star games this year, makes me wonder if similar technology could be made for turf. And if so, could it be used to mark out things on the ground so interpretation for things like distance run, or the lineup for goal, kick distance, etc to hopefully take some of the interpretation on calls away from umpires.
It's crazy how Bad the Game is becoming. You can't believe how frustrating it gets when you loose money having a punt. They need to stop Gambling on footy untill they get it right. If they can take 30 seconds looking at a Goal review when a blind man can see what it is.
Why not take 10 seconds to check an umpires decision, expecialy if it's in the forward 50, and only mean the decision that really are dubious. But all these rule changes, now you have players staging like there hurt, didn't used to see that it's not friggin soccer, what's the other one , the deliberately going for boundary, dam now everytime the ball goes out , players look so CRINGY appealing for the free kick. Who makes these changes to our awsome game. I would go out on a limb as to say it's definitely someone who didn't grow up playing our Game.
I grew up playing in the 70's so you already know I'm about to say how soft our Game has become over the last Decade. It's the best Game in the World, please stop with dumb shit, you umpires have cost me plenty over the last few years. with you shit decisions.
Was thinking off billing AFL for my damages 😂. Go Bombers.
And that's why I don't punt. Losing money I'll never get back is something I can't justify
I think most AFL umpires arent AFL people, they are picked based on knowledge of rules and decidion making and dont have the feel for the game cause they lack playing in pressure situations, its not natural for them and ex players dont want to be field umpires
The one on McLean is always a 50. It was marked and then someone knocked it out of his hands.
I really don’t get why people are blaming the umpires on that instead of the defender who knocked it loose.
I agree
Current umpires are the worst this league has ever had. Too ready to listen to a baying crowd, often confused, misinterpreting the rules, four of them per game is just too many....leading to different decisions for the same situation.....and a readiness for them to be bias......and most of them come from Victoria, probably the biggest anomaly of them all. It's a shambles......and let's not forget the 2016 Grand Final, where they just plainly cheated.
It should two metres pen pen because there two Collingwood player inside on the protick zone
But suns got a really annoying free kick in there inside 50 so it’s fair and there was a time where they call it for saints when it shouldn’t been
Elliot Yeo holding the ball was in relation to dragging it in not the new reasonable time interpretation. It was also correct under how the law is interpreted.
I don’t agree that he “dragged it in” it’s close but is taking possession prior? I understand the option of hitting it out is there, but surely we don’t want people to just be volleyball spiking it whenever they’re grounded
Nope. He didn't drag it in. He picked the ball up and was tackled a split second later. No prior opportunity whatsoever.
He also almost deprived Wardlaw of his ears just prior to that.
He made no effort to get the ball out. I think that's why it was called. If he had tried I don't think it would have been called
@@bomberwarren i think therein is the problem, there needs to be a priority defined between "incorrect disposal" "holding the ball" and "prior opportunity"
i would imagine, if yeo were to attempt but spill the ball and he wasnt called i would be fine with it, because his tackle was a non call also
People with ruthlessly abuse umpires then wonder why no one wants to become one. The more support we give the officials, the better they’ll be.
That support starts from AFL house.
Make umpiring a professional job. Give them all $80,000 to $120,000 a season each, depending on experience.
Then award bonuses for umpiring matches. $1500-$2000 a game. Finals and the GF being ever more.
Offer good money to these people so they can quit their day job and spend all of their focus on being better umpires.
You and I can't enforce this. It is AFL house.
And Laura Kane and her clown show need to stop changing the rules throughout the season. Stick to the bloody rules for a change.
If the AFL can do this, then the umpires will find it easier, and you won't have to worry about people yelling over the fence at them.
Nope. If I do my job badly, I get fired. These people cannot do their jobs, and we should blindly support them?
Nah mate.
Good, the sooner it's automated so little, power hungry losers can't make a living out of being a MAGGOT, the better.
Collingwood seem to win many close games by controversial decisions, im not saying they pay the umps to cheat but im not saying they dont, i can think of 4 crows Collingwood games all won by Collingwood in dodgy circumstances, i can accept one or two but the chances of all their close wins cant all be a coincidence , come on
A multi million dollar industry that uses officials who are literally doing this takes a paid hobby.
The first way to improve umpiring would be to make it their full time paid job.
Secondly the game is the only code of football where there are no lines-people.
Players know damn well that the way umpiring positions on-field there are blind spots and if they in the right spot they can throw the ball (or any other illegal act) with impunity.
Cat the game back to two umpires and then change boundary umpires to umpires assistants, so that if the blow a call then can overrule and with them being on the outside they can stop blind spot exploitation.
The way umpiring in the game is approached is amateur hour!
Great video as always mate, measured and informative.
bring back the fundamental rules, scrap all these bullshit bandaid rules, drop this incisiveness of making the game go faster and faster.
3:56 “sportsbet”
The AFL has had an umpiring problem for a decade, ever since the heirarchy decided they should be considered as stars of the game
WRONG
Longer than that more like 20 years.
The AFL needs competition, a whole new set of teams, call it ARF...Australian Rules Football, 2 teams from each state and territory, 70's rules, no rule changes
If not this game is destined for the scrap heap...the foundations of the whole concept, the viewing public will lose interest
The last 20 years have been ruined by umpires.
Over officiated garbage of a game now.
I actually disagree. Umpiring is no better or worse.
Rather there is more attention on umpiring than ever to generate controversy.
And since the AFL media is the same 10 people on every network they have disproportionate influence on the agenda.
It is often said that the one thing in the game that has not improved with time is kicking for goal. Neither has the officiating.
@@magpie7154 Yeah I think there is a real boys club in footy media. They refuse to apply scrutiny and critique to players. So they always bash coaches and umpires.
Don't listen to these mugs.
Umpires are weedy blokes who couldn't make it as actual players.
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Why is a woman in charge?
The Elliot Yeo holding the ball is holding the ball.
What a load of rubbish.
@@user-vz5cq7ey2c he took possession of the ball while on his knees. That's always been a free kick
@@richardbehan8118 So if you tackle a player and the ball drops out of his hands onto the ground, your on hands and knees after the tackle with the ball 30cm in front of you, you immediately pick up the ball, 0.5 seconds later after trying to stand up and pass to teammate get tackled and in your ridiculous opinion this is holding the ball.
@@user-vz5cq7ey2c it's not opinion. It's the rule
@@richardbehan8118
It's not the rule though. That has never been paid before that weekend, and they've stopped paying it since.
That was the result of a weekend of extremely confused umpires that over corrected and made mistakes.
They're umpiring this rule now, like they were at the beginning of the season.
What do you expect from Kane, thats what you get with a diversity hire.
Women are motivated by feelings or emotions I want to make this clear that's totally okay im not judging at all its just biology.
Men are mostly motivated by Logic and reason that's why we put men in the top of the hierarchical structures.
Games are fixed bro 🙄 wake up bro 😴
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The game was umpired about as well as could be in the 90's and early 00's. Then the rule changes started, the umps didnt know what to do.
Laura Kane should be head of meal prep instead of GM of Umpire
The Whole System has been wrecked but no one wants to say anything because we don't want to offend or hurt the higher ups feelings or egos.
But even when the coaches wants to share theyre opinions they get fined for saying something which is like a Dictatorship things will only get worse.
woke culture at its finest
Geelong tried and have been destroyed by umpires ever since.