Ah yes, GE C40-8 making a fine Specimen of the good old ALCO unit's, I grew up working with these old C40-8 units, they run forever even with the obvious "Differed maintenance" as seen here. This bad girl has far to much fuel in her throat hence the 8 Foot belting flame, but the issue is due to a common failure which is not a major failure, its a cracked, or split injector stuck on "Spray" or "Mist" due to that the engine is tossing out a ton of fuel at very high pressure and very high temp. It only takes 1 injector to do this but....the good old FDL-V16 can handle it no problem. Still....probably wise to have that boxcar leading in front of them Ethanol tankers.
Hello Phil, just came by and saw your comment, could you explain how they control several locomotives at once? The crew is on the first one right? There's nobody on the other locos... I'm 60, and ever since I was a kid I wondered how they do it. Cheers!
@@Yosemite-George-61 Howdy! Former RR Electrician here. If you look close on the front and rear of each loco there is a pink or yellow hose. It connects between the units just below the deck plates. This is called an M.U. cable, for Multiple Unit. There are 27 circuit pins on each end that all the major control signals from the operator are sent through. These signal transmit commands to every unit in the consist that is set up to operate, such as Forward, Reverse, Notch 1 through 8, etc. I hope that simple overview helps.
I've seen old locomotives in Indonesia and Azerbaijan shooting flames and tremendous amounts of soot into the air like this. In Azerbaijan it was in Baku and the train was crawling bast some high-rise apartment buildings, coming from a sea port. I thought how annoying it must be for the people living in the building to have a massive cloud of diesel soot waft into their apartments several times a day.
That's NOT a "blown" turbocharger. That is a broken fuel injector. If a turbocharger were to actually break into pieces, the engine would stall. Locomotive engines cannot naturally aspirate themselves. In 20+ years I have NEVER seen a turbo fracture in any way. They seize up, but the engine stalls if it's a single turbo. When you see flames pouring out an exhaust, it's the result of the broken injector spewing copious amounts of fuel into the cylinder. Sorry to burst your bubbles but turbochargers don't blow up..............lol.
looks like an old -8 spartan cab before they were re-fitted with the wide cab. without the proper attention, the turbos go out, and it dumps raw fuel into the exhaust valves causing it to blow fire like a dragon!
Heh In Aussie, we have had a few throw fire 3 foot or so due to the oil cooler blowing up. The worst thing here is all of the Sydney rail system is under 1500KV D.C. catenery wires, so the Firies turn up in 15 mins, then wait up to 70 mins before the residual current leaves the overhead wiress so they can put a hose on the LOCO.
The diesel didn't combust fully inside the cylinders and escapes out through exhaust hence the black smoke. When it reached the opening of the exhaust, the escaped diesel catches fire due to the presence of oxygen in the atmosphere and extreme heat in the exhaust smoke. So its rather a simple issue. The air fuel mixing ratio should be tuned properly.
You're wrong!every locomotive comes with a turbocharger!and sometimes it will malfunction!if a unit is spewing black smoke and is putting up flames,the turbocharger is the problem and the engine is suffering from a lack of care!
@@terrywallace4109 Actually, most of what they wrote is correct. The problem _is_ the air-fuel ratio, but the correct fix is to repair the broken turbocharger, not adjust the mixture. This locomotive is turbocharged, as are all models in current production. However, not all locomotives in the US have turbochargers: the most common naturally aspirated locos are GP38(-2)s, which are the non-turbocharged version of the GP40(-2).
When did GE add afterburners? Cool. Didn't seem to speed the train up much, but it makes a nice show. Would have been really a show it someone was standing on the bridge looking over with he lit it up.
Zombie comment revival 😉😎 … not an afterburner! … flame goes up QED force goes down! … it’s for better traction!! … can’t have a big wing on it because of the bridges! 😉😁🤣
The probable issue here was likely a lack of maintenance. Either they didn't clean out the exhaust manifold of soot/creosote, or the injector stuck or broke at the tip, causing excessive fuel to dump into the cylinder - so much, that it doesn't all burn (if at all), and instead goes into the exhaust manifold, where it pools up.
Toasty indeed! I'm surprised that the smoke didn't get consumed while the flames were burning...Usually the flames would burn all the unburnt fuel and oil and soot particles in the smoke clearing up the smoke momentarily. Must've been running super rich, I guess.
@@bonkeydollocks1879 Why not? A blown exhaust valve means it literally is open during combustion and any forceful combustion would potentially force those flames out the pipe Of course it could just be unburned fuel, but the other theory is quite possible
ethanol is the active ingredient in drinking alcohol, that's why you never smoke in a bar as you could blow up the whole neighborhood. Forgot people drink in bars all the time with no explosions and unless the car is punctured the car will not catch fire as even if there was a spark igniter inside.
@@BenjaminEsposti it is old. And because of the possibility of lack of maintenance, the intake side of the turbo may be leaking oil occasionally into the engine. Which means it'll need an overhaul. As well as fresh engine oil.
Someone who finally has some ducking G Damn sense, all this EMD shit this GE shit that like STFU just like your damn car you put it to work it’ll eventually break and you need to fix it again. ITS A MACHINE PPL THEY ALL DO IT
Nah bridge cooking isn't cool ... it could damage the concrete on the bridge from the heat. But yes I agree, he throttled down a notch to make the fire go out :P
Yes!each locomotive has safety equipment already in them. An alarm bell in the lead unit should have sounded and the crew should have taken quick action to prevent the locomotive from catching fire. These units also have an emergency fuel cut off switch located right near the fuel tank. And it is painted red.it also has a cord with a pull ring that can be pulled to cut off the flow of fuel to the engine. Here are the steps you can take to save the locomotive from being destroyed. #1if you see something like this, go into the cab of the locomotive and pull the locomotive isolation switch #2bring the unit throttle back to idle.#3get outside the locomotive and pull the emergency fuel cutoff switch #4place the locomotive in the start position. #5,hold the switch until the engine sguts itself down. #6place the locomotive in neutral position. #7,get her to the shops,and write her up for reoairs.this will save the railroads thousands of dollars in repair costs. It is all about safety!and don't forget to watch out for trouble!
@@terrywallace4109 I would think a simple non technical thing like a mirror or camera that shows the top of the stacks would be sufficient. thanks for your detailed response. It's one of the very few reasons I like the comment section on UA-cam. it's like a forum where one can learn from people all over the world.
@@AffordBindEquipment A CCTV camera with some sort of data network to allow the engineer in one locomotive to view the camera on another is "a simple non technical thing", now?
@@beeble2003 something that just looks over the top of the engines from the front like a gopro on a magnet base, which is about as simple as it gets. youtubers live-stream from a gopro all the time. if they can figure it out, certainly a train engineer can. it seems whatever technical difficulties there are, it's way cheaper than burning up an engine and possibly setting fire to bridges and whatever else is in the way. If what terry wallace above says is true, then someone was asleep or shooting video for their train youtube channel and not paying attention, or the safety equipment malfunctioned or wasn't maintained correctly. It would seem to me that something so expensive would have all kinds of detection and alarms that would sound. but from the amount of vids on youtube showing this very thing, I wonder why these fires go on long enough for someone to notice and shoot a vid.
I don't know the first thing about trains their engines but I do know the engines supply power too generators that turn the wheels so is it possible it is loading up with fuel and then burning it off in the turbo charger
Nop,,,y observed thr stack smoke,,,one cylinder have a problem,,the exhaust smoke goes out discontinuous,an exhaust valve or an injector problem,,,the charger is in bad conditions too
This video shows a flaming locomotive pulling a train full of ethanol (assumed to be in tankers). This will continue till there's a major fire; hopefully, that's not what it will take to get these locomotives to be maintained better.
Yes, probably ethanol. It looks bad but there's basically zero chance of this thing setting the train on fire. There's a clear 150ft between the flame and the first tank car. When the train is moving, the flames are upwind of the ethanol. And, most importantly, if any of those tank cars is leaking ethanol, there is something seriously wrong with that tank car. You don't want an ethanol tank _in_ a fire because that will heat up the ethanol enough that the vapour relief vents on the tank will open, to avoid the tank rupturing. That will then vent ethanol into the fire, with obvious bad results. But having a fire 150ft away from an ethanol tank shouldn't cause anything bad to happen.
It only seems like it's working harder because you can see more. The turbo's blown, so more fuel's being put into the cylinders than can burn in the oxygen available. Partially-burnt fuel causes black smoke; completely unburnt fuel catches fire when it gets out into the atmosphere.
Well, they do have a tendency to malfunction. Had two GE over the stove microwaves, and one had a failed magnetron, threw that one away, got another one, which had a failed circuit board *AND* interlocks, so I had to throw That one away.
@stilton, I am ignorant but I truly enjoy these rail videos and it is so educational. I really appreciate all the explanations that are posted. Thank you alles. Good on ya mates.
One of many ways a train can start a forest fire. Had one around here that was started by an axle bearing failure, it spit burning bits along the side of the track and started several small forest fires. Luckily the weather around here (Binghamton, NY) had been pretty wet as usual so it was easily brought under control.
Failed turbocharger. The way it's supposed to work is that the turbo compresses the inlet air, so you get a greater mass of air -- therefore a greater mass of oxygen -- into the cylinders. Because there's more oxygen, you can burn more fuel, so they inject a lot of fuel. But, because the turbo has failed, there isn't enough oxygen to burn all that fuel, so some of it goes into the exhaust. Once it's out of the locomotive, it mixes with the oxygen in the atmosphere and catches fire.
Out of all the trains I done seen over the years I have never seen one do that yet of course I'm in Houston TX. And the only train I see the most are union Pacific trains ✌😎😼
Aw, she's just clearing her throat! Incompletely burned fuel in the stack flares up from time to time; the old ALCO Centuries were known for doing that- goes along with the smoke show!
He's an engineer. You're not. He knows exactly what to do. You don't. Stay in your own lane and let the engineer do his work (that you know nothing about). Now go get dressed... mommy's upstairs calling you to lunch.
And I have to pass stringent inspections to get my car to pass emissions Locomotive throwing flames a hundred feet with a few million gallons of gasoline and oil in those tank cars. Yeah that looks safe
The USA contains hundreds of millions of cars and only tens of thousands of railway locomotives. In other words, allowing everybody to run polluting cars is tens of thousands of times worse than allowing railroads to run polluting locomotives. Newer locomotives have to meet much more stringent emissions standards than they did when this one was built, in the late '80s. And, while it looks terrible, there is basically zero danger of that exhaust fire igniting the train. First, the fire is 150ft from the ethanol tanks. Second, it's up-wind of them whenever the train is moving (i.e., the wind is moving any ethanol away from the fire). Third, under no circumstances should those tanks be releasing any ethanol into the environment. If any of those tanks is leaking, that is already a serious safety issue, regardless of what's happening with the locomotives.
You have to wonder: is GE making their own diesel engines, or are they buying them from someone else? And maybe they ought to think about a change in that process?
Union Pacific, not Chessie. Chessie ceased to exist in 1987, which was the year GE started building the C40-8s. I suppose that, if Chessie had ordered any C40-8s, they could have been delivered in Chessie paint and then immediately transferred to CSX -- but I don't think Chessie ordered any.
This is caused by a broken injector dumping raw fuel. It happens from time to time. The fuel accumulation in the exhaust manifold is what causes the fire out the stack
Ah yes, GE C40-8 making a fine Specimen of the good old ALCO unit's, I grew up working with these old C40-8 units, they run forever even with the obvious "Differed maintenance" as seen here. This bad girl has far to much fuel in her throat hence the 8 Foot belting flame, but the issue is due to a common failure which is not a major failure, its a cracked, or split injector stuck on "Spray" or "Mist" due to that the engine is tossing out a ton of fuel at very high pressure and very high temp. It only takes 1 injector to do this but....the good old FDL-V16 can handle it no problem. Still....probably wise to have that boxcar leading in front of them Ethanol tankers.
Hello Phil, just came by and saw your comment, could you explain how they control several locomotives at once? The crew is on the first one right? There's nobody on the other locos... I'm 60, and ever since I was a kid I wondered how they do it. Cheers!
@@Yosemite-George-61 Howdy! Former RR Electrician here. If you look close on the front and rear of each loco there is a pink or yellow hose. It connects between the units just below the deck plates. This is called an M.U. cable, for Multiple Unit. There are 27 circuit pins on each end that all the major control signals from the operator are sent through. These signal transmit commands to every unit in the consist that is set up to operate, such as Forward, Reverse, Notch 1 through 8, etc. I hope that simple overview helps.
@@BadlandNP Thank you! Your explanation is clear and duly appreciated!
I've seen old locomotives in Indonesia and Azerbaijan shooting flames and tremendous amounts of soot into the air like this. In Azerbaijan it was in Baku and the train was crawling bast some high-rise apartment buildings, coming from a sea port. I thought how annoying it must be for the people living in the building to have a massive cloud of diesel soot waft into their apartments several times a day.
I used to live near the (steam) loco yards/station in Bloemfontein in the 70s, the amount of soot that invaded my flat every day was astonishing!
The engine forgot about being an internal combustion engine.
I love how the fire spits out and you suddenly hear him take 20 pictures,
Always wonder what is he going to think later when he is looking at all his dozens of pictures of the same thing.
Oh this is not unlike going to a nascar race and hoping for a wreck.
I would Definitely take continuous shots with my Nikon d3400 of any toasty locomotive
Hi why does the driver not shut the loco down?
Killer anti lag setup brah
only rally enthusiasts will get this
That's NOT a "blown" turbocharger. That is a broken fuel injector. If a turbocharger were to actually break into pieces, the engine would stall. Locomotive engines cannot naturally aspirate themselves. In 20+ years I have NEVER seen a turbo fracture in any way. They seize up, but the engine stalls if it's a single turbo. When you see flames pouring out an exhaust, it's the result of the broken injector spewing copious amounts of fuel into the cylinder. Sorry to burst your bubbles but turbochargers don't blow up..............lol.
So what happens in this case? Just drive the train like this until reaching destination?
looks like an old -8 spartan cab before they were re-fitted with the wide cab.
without the proper attention, the turbos go out, and it dumps raw fuel into the exhaust valves causing it to blow fire like a dragon!
Heh In Aussie, we have had a few throw fire 3 foot or so due to the oil cooler blowing up. The worst thing here is all of the Sydney rail system is under 1500KV D.C. catenery wires, so the Firies turn up in 15 mins, then wait up to 70 mins before the residual current leaves the overhead wiress so they can put a hose on the LOCO.
The diesel didn't combust fully inside the cylinders and escapes out through exhaust hence the black smoke. When it reached the opening of the exhaust, the escaped diesel catches fire due to the presence of oxygen in the atmosphere and extreme heat in the exhaust smoke. So its rather a simple issue. The air fuel mixing ratio should be tuned properly.
Blown turbo, not getting enough air to burn all of the fuel
You're wrong!every locomotive comes with a turbocharger!and sometimes it will malfunction!if a unit is spewing black smoke and is putting up flames,the turbocharger is the problem and the engine is suffering from a lack of care!
@@terrywallace4109 Actually, most of what they wrote is correct. The problem _is_ the air-fuel ratio, but the correct fix is to repair the broken turbocharger, not adjust the mixture. This locomotive is turbocharged, as are all models in current production. However, not all locomotives in the US have turbochargers: the most common naturally aspirated locos are GP38(-2)s, which are the non-turbocharged version of the GP40(-2).
That's what happens when diesels have Taco Bell for lunch.
" there's a flame from her stack and that smoke is blowing black as coal"!!!!
Gotta love all the fucking UA-cam expert diesel mechanics here! LMFAO
Considering the loco is pulling tanks a replacement might be a good idea when one is possible .
When did GE add afterburners? Cool. Didn't seem to speed the train up much, but it makes a nice show.
Would have been really a show it someone was standing on the bridge looking over with he lit it up.
So, you're saying that it "would have been really a show" if someone got burned alive?
Zombie comment revival 😉😎 … not an afterburner! … flame goes up QED force goes down! … it’s for better traction!! … can’t have a big wing on it because of the bridges! 😉😁🤣
That fire breathing locomotive blew the turbo. She is not a happy camper..
Mullay2 unburned fuel builds up in the exhaust due to long periods of idling. Causing the fuel to burn off when throttled up.
The probable issue here was likely a lack of maintenance.
Either they didn't clean out the exhaust manifold of soot/creosote, or the injector stuck or broke at the tip, causing excessive fuel to dump into the cylinder - so much, that it doesn't all burn (if at all), and instead goes into the exhaust manifold, where it pools up.
@@bluegrassman3040 Agreed, you would've heard the turbo go and there would have been a ton of white smoke, not black diesel smoke.
You're all right. Everything goes wrong in Georgia.
@@tag7100 does not know that Not everything goes wrong in Georgia
Nothing better than a lot of black smoke & fire
Toasty indeed! I'm surprised that the smoke didn't get consumed while the flames were burning...Usually the flames would burn all the unburnt fuel and oil and soot particles in the smoke clearing up the smoke momentarily. Must've been running super rich, I guess.
In England (UK) trainspotters call the smoke clag.
Diesel is not burning well in low pressure - There was probably blown turbocharger
Busted exhaust valves another possibility, perhaps?
@@jetstream454 would not cause that
@@bonkeydollocks1879 Why not? A blown exhaust valve means it literally is open during combustion and any forceful combustion would potentially force those flames out the pipe
Of course it could just be unburned fuel, but the other theory is quite possible
Shockingly this is a common thing around the metro Atlanta area more so than not. See them doing it all the time.
Good to know they're pulling ethanol.
LOL
that's just to keep it warm, mister
oh yeah,....thats probably safe rite? lol
again, a failure common to ge locomotives.
lets get this party started
ethanol is the active ingredient in drinking alcohol, that's why you never smoke in a bar as you could blow up the whole neighborhood. Forgot people drink in bars all the time with no explosions and unless the car is punctured the car will not catch fire as even if there was a spark igniter inside.
Yeah the locomotive is actually supposed to do that. It's GE's new fire spitting feature. Like on sports cars.
Don't stand on a footbridge if one of these volcanic engines is coming. Otherwise you would be toast.
Not all GE's are like this. Chances are that crex probably doesn't do very good maintenance.
Plus it's an old-ish loco from the mid/late 1980's
If they do any maintenance at all.
@@BenjaminEsposti it is old. And because of the possibility of lack of maintenance, the intake side of the turbo may be leaking oil occasionally into the engine. Which means it'll need an overhaul. As well as fresh engine oil.
All GEs are like this with this kind of maintenance. EMDs just don't work at some point. The GE will self destruct.
Someone who finally has some ducking G Damn sense, all this EMD shit this GE shit that like STFU just like your damn car you put it to work it’ll eventually break and you need to fix it again. ITS A MACHINE PPL THEY ALL DO IT
The mighty GEVO, flame at the stack.
Love him or hate him.....He spittin flames
A flamer hauling ethanol. Oooooops!!!
looks like he throttled down a notch to go under the bridge
Stephen DiSalvo he should of cooked the bridge full throttle
Nah bridge cooking isn't cool ... it could damage the concrete on the bridge from the heat.
But yes I agree, he throttled down a notch to make the fire go out :P
Give the whole train a big shove and experience a once-in-a-lifetime moment.
is there any way for the engineer to know this is happening?
Either some overheat reminders or something go off or the engine shuts down and/or the crew look in the opposite direction
Yes!each locomotive has safety equipment already in them. An alarm bell in the lead unit should have sounded and the crew should have taken quick action to prevent the locomotive from catching fire. These units also have an emergency fuel cut off switch located right near the fuel tank. And it is painted red.it also has a cord with a pull ring that can be pulled to cut off the flow of fuel to the engine. Here are the steps you can take to save the locomotive from being destroyed. #1if you see something like this, go into the cab of the locomotive and pull the locomotive isolation switch #2bring the unit throttle back to idle.#3get outside the locomotive and pull the emergency fuel cutoff switch #4place the locomotive in the start position. #5,hold the switch until the engine sguts itself down. #6place the locomotive in neutral position. #7,get her to the shops,and write her up for reoairs.this will save the railroads thousands of dollars in repair costs. It is all about safety!and don't forget to watch out for trouble!
@@terrywallace4109 I would think a simple non technical thing like a mirror or camera that shows the top of the stacks would be sufficient.
thanks for your detailed response. It's one of the very few reasons I like the comment section on UA-cam. it's like a forum where one can learn from people all over the world.
@@AffordBindEquipment A CCTV camera with some sort of data network to allow the engineer in one locomotive to view the camera on another is "a simple non technical thing", now?
@@beeble2003 something that just looks over the top of the engines from the front like a gopro on a magnet base, which is about as simple as it gets. youtubers live-stream from a gopro all the time. if they can figure it out, certainly a train engineer can. it seems whatever technical difficulties there are, it's way cheaper than burning up an engine and possibly setting fire to bridges and whatever else is in the way.
If what terry wallace above says is true, then someone was asleep or shooting video for their train youtube channel and not paying attention, or the safety equipment malfunctioned or wasn't maintained correctly.
It would seem to me that something so expensive would have all kinds of detection and alarms that would sound. but from the amount of vids on youtube showing this very thing, I wonder why these fires go on long enough for someone to notice and shoot a vid.
Hey, someone pass the marshmellows.
Now thats heartburn!!!!
That’s why they call them GE Toasters🔥
Oh shit
With tankers? I see now why a box car is the lead car
Those oil trains always have to have a buffer car. Though the "Tank Trains" that run up the California coast do not.
That ain't a boxcar leading, it's a hopper
Tri State Railfan ProductionsTM I'm the same way.
Here in Ireland we call that a barrier car.
To supply fuel for the fire?
Who could dislike a video of fire coming out of the top of a huge train engine? Who??
David Austerman
Tree hugging liberals.
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I actually like this kind of video: A toasty GE shooting flames, as the title implies.
ah, the poor old girls' a little sick.
She needs her diaper change.Lol.
Needs some serious TLC. A new turbocharger would be a great start
Well, it would be a great oven if you fireproof the top and put a box with racks on it.
I don't know the first thing about trains their engines but I do know the engines supply power too generators that turn the wheels so is it possible it is loading up with fuel and then burning it off in the turbo charger
Thumbs Up Liked.
That's the stage 3 tune
Damn thing looks ancient.
The GE locomotive here as shown, is that normal? Or does it need to under-go repairs?
Sgt Luke Gonna need a turbo rehab.....
The rarely seen gas turbine conversion?
Turbocharger gone.You can hear the unit lose power, when it started.
I don't think it is a turbocharger. Fuel injector issues were common on dash 8s. We had them in our consists and frankly didn't care
Try again mr smart guy!
Nop,,,y observed thr stack smoke,,,one cylinder have a problem,,the exhaust smoke goes out discontinuous,an exhaust valve or an injector problem,,,the charger is in bad conditions too
My question is should it be doing that and is it safe?
Michael Washington I mean I don't know if it is safe and I'm pretty sure it isn't supposed to do that I think it blew a turbo
@@jake-qn6zy Thanks looks scary lol 😂
Ya can't spell "garbage" without GE!
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*Instantly bursts out laughing hysterically*
Son get the marshmallows
I wanted to see it cook the underside of the bridge
And set the whole train on fire.
An oldie but goodie!
When diesels try to be steam engines.
Steam engine exhaust is mostly ash. The carbon and other carcinogens from burning diesel fuel is a lot worse.
turbo failure,or oil leakagethat ignites in the exhaust stack.
Toaster doing toaster things
This video shows a flaming locomotive pulling a train full of ethanol (assumed to be in tankers). This will continue till there's a major fire; hopefully, that's not what it will take to get these locomotives to be maintained better.
Yes, probably ethanol. It looks bad but there's basically zero chance of this thing setting the train on fire. There's a clear 150ft between the flame and the first tank car. When the train is moving, the flames are upwind of the ethanol. And, most importantly, if any of those tank cars is leaking ethanol, there is something seriously wrong with that tank car.
You don't want an ethanol tank _in_ a fire because that will heat up the ethanol enough that the vapour relief vents on the tank will open, to avoid the tank rupturing. That will then vent ethanol into the fire, with obvious bad results. But having a fire 150ft away from an ethanol tank shouldn't cause anything bad to happen.
Nice catch!! Caught a CSX GE do the samething 7 years ago. Got it on video also.
I thought this only happened with Deltecs?
Wow, great catch ! 👍🏻
1:14 me after taco bell be like.
Looked very hot from here! Great catch! Thanks for sharing .
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Hot, as in "sexy"?
If it was in Hotlanta it was just melting down anyway.
Just a little regen. Lol
So does the crew know that was happening?!?! And why is that second unit seem like it's working harder than the rest
yes and they don't care. fuel injector problems were common on Dash 8s
It only seems like it's working harder because you can see more. The turbo's blown, so more fuel's being put into the cylinders than can burn in the oxygen available. Partially-burnt fuel causes black smoke; completely unburnt fuel catches fire when it gets out into the atmosphere.
This is why I like ALCOs and GEs. The spectacle of 'em!
Notice how all the flamethrowers are GE's?
Well, they do have a tendency to malfunction. Had two GE over the stove microwaves, and one had a failed magnetron, threw that one away, got another one, which had a failed circuit board *AND* interlocks, so I had to throw That one away.
Only takes one old smokey C40-8 to counteract all the pollution that GEVO's are preventing!
The basic setup of GEVO components hasn't changed from the original U-Boats that had this problem too. The GEVOs will do the same thing.
Blown turbo, or oil/carbon residue in the stack ?
stiltoncheesewright : Yes it would be turbo failure
@stilton, I am ignorant but I truly enjoy these rail videos and it is so educational. I really appreciate all the explanations that are posted. Thank you alles. Good on ya mates.
Probably "yes" is the answer.
Excuse me CSX but I think your Ex UP C40-8 is having Engine trouble lol
Would be interesting to see it spout off a flame column as it goes through that underpass.
What's new about a GE loco on fire
They Sound like a 2 cylinder John Deere and the Turbo thrust isn't even when the cylinder ignites
Hobbit engines blow smoke rings
well that explains how forest fires really start.
It would have to be driven under a tree!
Fires start when glowing carbon shoots out the exhaust stack from a port used to keep a vacuum on Diesel engine
Forest fires really start that way.
One of many ways a train can start a forest fire. Had one around here that was started by an axle bearing failure, it spit burning bits along the side of the track and started several small forest fires. Luckily the weather around here (Binghamton, NY) had been pretty wet as usual so it was easily brought under control.
@@44R0Ndin yes, becuase the trees grow up and make a 90 degree turn over the railway.
How did I get here?
Anybody got any marshmallows Lol!
a former UP Unit !
CSXT 5250 before its repaint into YN3b
Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you the 2019 Volkswagen turbo diesel range
Nice catch on the flame-throwing local there is a problem with the prime mover dumping raw fuel into the exhaust port and igniting it
Failed turbocharger. The way it's supposed to work is that the turbo compresses the inlet air, so you get a greater mass of air -- therefore a greater mass of oxygen -- into the cylinders. Because there's more oxygen, you can burn more fuel, so they inject a lot of fuel. But, because the turbo has failed, there isn't enough oxygen to burn all that fuel, so some of it goes into the exhaust. Once it's out of the locomotive, it mixes with the oxygen in the atmosphere and catches fire.
Out of all the trains I done seen over the years I have never seen one do that yet of course I'm in Houston TX. And the only train I see the most are union Pacific trains ✌😎😼
Aw, she's just clearing her throat!
Incompletely burned fuel in the stack flares up from time to time; the old ALCO Centuries were known for doing that- goes along with the smoke show!
Huh, thus emission control mechanisms exist on such loco's ?
Absolutely. Look at the newer tier4 compliant locomotives.
This locomotive was built in the late 1980s, before current emissions standards. (And the actual issue is that it's old and worn out.)
So tell me again that Alcos run dirty.....
Co za wysiłek 😎
Why don't they turn that engine off since it's broken?
They need that extra 5 horsepower from the 2 working cylinders to pull the weight of the other 14.
The mighty GE, flame at the stack!
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Or as they always say, *"FIRE IN THE HOLE!!!!!"*
Time to roast marshmallows
It's normal. It's a GE!
GE- always lights the first time!
"But I want to be a dragon" the train said, and then it did
(12-Nov-19)
"Let there be light", as quoted from the Bible.
GE and ethanol: is the locomotive drunk??-oh well, it will burn well,with a blue flame.
So what’s the engineer thinking?
Screw it I need the power run it till it melts. They can fix it when it gets back!
He's an engineer. You're not. He knows exactly what to do. You don't. Stay in your own lane and let the engineer do his work (that you know nothing about). Now go get dressed... mommy's upstairs calling you to lunch.
@@sydspoak6754 Did you even listen to your own parents?
Syd Spoak hi I’m a engineer how are you.
And I have to pass stringent inspections to get my car to pass emissions
Locomotive throwing flames a hundred feet with a few million gallons of gasoline and oil in those tank cars. Yeah that looks safe
Not gasoline or oil. Ethanol. Those tankers are not in any danger.
Especially if the lead car was filled with thermite.
The USA contains hundreds of millions of cars and only tens of thousands of railway locomotives. In other words, allowing everybody to run polluting cars is tens of thousands of times worse than allowing railroads to run polluting locomotives. Newer locomotives have to meet much more stringent emissions standards than they did when this one was built, in the late '80s.
And, while it looks terrible, there is basically zero danger of that exhaust fire igniting the train. First, the fire is 150ft from the ethanol tanks. Second, it's up-wind of them whenever the train is moving (i.e., the wind is moving any ethanol away from the fire). Third, under no circumstances should those tanks be releasing any ethanol into the environment. If any of those tanks is leaking, that is already a serious safety issue, regardless of what's happening with the locomotives.
@@FranzFerdinandVIII It's not. It's filled with sand, and it's only there to distance the locomotives from the train in case of a derailment.
that engine sound, it´s music to my ears
Let me call my friend at WSB TV, so we could get ready for the backyard barbecue.
Atlanta which area.
Grab some hotdogs and lets have a weenie roast!
Now *That* is my kind of diesel electric stove-o-motive: One that spouts decent flames out the stack.
Surly a case of the injector pump and injectors in need of recalibration
STOP THE TRAIN THERE IS A FIRE COMING OUT
You have to wonder: is GE making their own diesel engines, or are they buying them from someone else? And maybe they ought to think about a change in that process?
GE use their own engines.
They make their own.
The colors on that engine look like Chessie System colors. If so, it has to pretty old.
It’s a Union Pacific C40-8 in lease service! Chess ir was CSX when these units started being built! CSX had some, but in gray.
Union Pacific, not Chessie. Chessie ceased to exist in 1987, which was the year GE started building the C40-8s. I suppose that, if Chessie had ordered any C40-8s, they could have been delivered in Chessie paint and then immediately transferred to CSX -- but I don't think Chessie ordered any.
Eh, blown turbo.....Burning oil. Done it driving 18 wheeler with hazmat onboard....Scary at first.
It's the new def system for trains
Broken turbocharger. Much more fuel than air to mix with it.
This is caused by a broken injector dumping raw fuel. It happens from time to time. The fuel accumulation in the exhaust manifold is what causes the fire out the stack
That's a cool video not unusual for a GE but cool nevertheless great going liked it