3 very different 125 scooters
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- Опубліковано 1 вер 2017
- In this episode we look at 3 scooters that are learner legal but very different styles. Let us know what you think. Do you have a scooter you want to tell us about?
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They are what they are. I've had vintage Vespas, modern auto Vespas, expensive Piaggio 4 strokes, cheap 2 stroke asian 90's, a big ass used 2009 SYM 125 (most reliable bike I ever owned, that never broke down or never did not start in 5 yrs) and now I'm on a 2018 SYM Jet 14 that is an absoulute weapon. I have loved them all for different reasons. The most important thing in any scooter is firstly that you picked it, you like it and enjoy riding it and secondly that when you hit the button, it starts and gets you where you need to be. Best leave the snobbery to the snobs and enjoy your ride whatever it is.
This guy is too negative about scooters.. Scooters are very reliable and most are great gas savers and easier to service than a motorcycle.I have rode across the US on both a motorcycle and a scooter and I enjoyed the scooter more..
As an observer of the two wheeled world I made a discovery a while back. I wondered once, where are all the practical day to day motorbikes? Note I said motorbikes. In my mind the two species of two wheeled transport where different beasts. I saw scooters as a rarity for adults. Mostly rode by women going to their nice local part time job. Or by youths on council estates bombing about on aged or Chinese 50cc machines. And then one day watching something or other on TV filmed in a European city I realised there were scooters everywhere, being rode it appeared by everyone, teens, women, men in suits. And then I had a look at some of these scooter in the metal. And though the 50cc are still ironing boards with handle boards the 125cc and above were substantial machines, probably better screwed together and more sophisticated than the 125cc motorbike. Then thought dawned on me, the practical day to day motorbike is the modern scooter. Yes you see them more in warmer climes, but the are practical. And I think that is where the negativity comes into it really. Here in the UK you get a 125cc, perhaps even pass your test, and then live with the reality that a 125cc motorbike is hard work, not very cool, and not very pleasant due to the weather. You decide you need more oomph and the majority go get a car. Only the hardened minority stay with it, and they eventually get a car too. On an average day driving about I will see more scooters than I ever see motorbikes. And if I do see a bike it will be somebody riding for pleasure not transport. And if I see somebody on say a big BMW who is using for a transport you can bet they have a BMW with 4 wheels and a roof back home too. Very, very rare you see an adult who obviously rides all the time. And if you do find such an individual he will be riding something Japanese about 10 years old sans fairing with awkward looking boxy panniers on the back covered in stickers. Simply bikers resent the fact that scooters fit a niche and are popular transport still, while bikes for the most part are toys.
not to mention they're cheaper and more space efficient than a car which is good for those school / uni guys
I fell in love with scooters while living in the Bahamas. I bought my first scooter there, everyone rides scooters in the Bahamas and they are so much fun
@@clangerbasher ....thanks for confirming what the rest of us had already heard about British weather.....:)) Same here in Chicago for a convertible auto. Too cold, or too hot(burn your face and head), or too rainy... Maybe 30 to 50 good days out of 360.
I prefer a scooter
If you are not a scooter rider or a scooter fan, then why are you reviewing scooters at the first place though...
Not everyone likes everything they review....TopGear a prime example!
Hahahaha absolutely loved the intro man. Looking forward to the next vid.
Chow!
Mein...kung Pow. 😺
You should definitely do more scooter reviews. I don't know what it is but somehow your presenting skills shine through.
Thank you. We do have more lined up!
good I look forward to it. I quite like the fact that you clearly don't like scooters, it adds entertainment value. I'm running a CBF125 at the moment and as much as I think it's a great machine would happily trade it in for the practicality of a scooter, weather protection, storage, ease of use and mechanical simplicity being the key issues but scooters are like moving targets out in the real world. Got to find one that has a bit of presence but can still hit 70. Oh, and has space under the seat for a full face helmet.
Nice reviews! Thank you.
Great colour of that vespa, "panzer grey" should I called it. Shiny but bold.
Hi there, and gredings from Portugal. What is your opinion on the neco"s reliability on a long term use.
Keep up the good work !
Can you please include the details of the scooters you review in the video description?
I am interested in the bigger scooter, but from the video audio I can't figure out what brand and what model it is.
omg im in love with the alex one, im 6,3 and i dont want to look daft on a small one, im so gonna save up for my first scooter :D
8 hp is too low on a heavy machine like that trust me ,unless you wanna do only city, get one that starts at at least 13hp as a125cc mine is a 14hp Sym Joymax 125i (the old ones) and i have to think like i am a truck when im on the highway because of lack of power
I have one in Spain. They are branded as Wottan there. It’s alright. Does feel cheap but it is cheap. Park it next to an xmax and it’s hard to see much difference
That awkward moment when your own name actually is Nico Alexander - and you realize, if you were a scooter, you'd be a Neco AlexOne.
hahaha
I had that exact honda vision and I loved it
Aren't these the same machines that Lexmoto sells under a different name (and for less money)?
AJS should forget the storage box under the seat and make the fuel tank bigger.
all that matters is your having fun.
well said Trever.
And being safe
@@Hexsyn hell yeah
I really enjoy your videos and feel exactly the same about scooters vs motorcycles as you do. I recently, sort of unwillingly, bought a 2013 Chinese 125 scooter from my son for reasons that I won't go into here. The positives, for me anyway: stash space, esp. helmet under the seat and perhaps the price.
The negatives, comparing it to my son's 2005 Yamaha XTZ125:
Scrapes the ground when leaning too much.
10 inch wheels don't inspire confidence for pot-holed roads.
Short tank range (3L)
Lacks versitility of off-road capability.
Not as economical.
Lacks top speed.
Great list and agree. It is not about hating on scooters, just that they are not as versatile; and ride very differently that bikes in that you just cannot do with the them confidently what you can with a motorbike.
Motors for the Masses. Totally agree.Thanks for your interaction with your viewers as well.
Mark, I know this is an older video but I find the comments hilarious! The 'scooter crowd' sure are a touchy bunch. "Don't you dare laugh at my scooter." Seems to me scooter riders miss one of the main points to owning a scooter, it's 'fun'. They must be so popular at parties!. ;)
I think all these scooters have potential but really you need a local to you Dealer that will look after your bike if it fails.
I think one day they will be a club of 125 scooter traveling around Europe on back roads going camping.
The first scooter ...4.6 litre tank? ..well that means that you are going to be forever stopping for fuel. .. bloody hell my scoot has a 13 litre tank capacity and still I find I'm stopping more often than I would prefer on a long trip ..
I ride a Vespa GTS 300 and I realize that there are some 125 bikes that are significantly quicker. But I love it and it's quick enough for me. It's fun to ride on a sunny day in town or round the country back roads.
It's Not really about Revving the throttle. When closed just beginning to open the throttle should dump a little more gas into the carb. Lots of people use this while they are traveling to get a small extra boost in acceleration. They just reach speed, cost for a second while they fully close then reopen the throttle. It might sound like they are simply revving the engine but that's not what they are doing.
2,200 pounds for a 125 unknown brand scooter? you can get a honda pcx 150 for almost the same price.
Never heard the overall height mentioned before, is it important for low bridges etc ?
You should try mio125
Please do 125 dirtbikes/ motorcross bikes ( street legal) please
It is on the list! We have a lot in the pipelines now as more companies come on board and give us vehicles to review. Please bare with us...they are coming.
Motors for the Masses Motors for the Masses that's great to hear and I will look forward to it. Keep up the good work
CHOW!
Hi everyone,there are too many criticisms here about mic,video quality Chinese product,Honda,Yamaha and so on.Now let’s talk about the bike.If someone is a bike mechanic or you owned one please join in and give some senseable advice.Thanks
naseemleone As my name implies, I have a Chinese scooter (250cc Znen) And while they are not up to the quality of the Japanese, they are far from being "nothing but junk" and for someone with the mechanical ability can be upgraded over time to an amazing degree. For someone like myself who enjoys the work and has the nack, it fits. For others a Honda, Yamaha, or other brand name bike (with dealer servicing) will work out much better.
9:00 I have seen plenty of new cars with these clear indicators that you can not see indicating when they are.
Shouldn't they be taken off the road by the authorities as illegal??
I agree
i just have a quaestion,does it sound like beacause i also have a motor that alexone
50cc mopeds you have to rev them high overwise they dont go
the 2 stroke were pretty high rev and took off really nice, but they are now banned were i life and the 4 stroke is a bit more tame!, a little rev does give it a little extra kick in the ass!.
these 125 scooters, are just 50 cc scooters with a 125 cc piston in them!, right?.
the 2 first scooters are for city use, the third scooter is for city to city use, cause it is too big for in city use, and if you gonna use it for travelling from city to city than 125 cc sucks, it will be under powered!.
S Dew i love my 2001 suzuki ap50 moped good old two stroke. Takes off better than the 4 strokes like the piaggio zips. Also mixes the fuel and oil on its own.
50cc are pretty much the hair-dryers.... 125cc and the engine is quieter.
The only moped that worked was the Puch Monza Flagskib
More like a Fizzy, the Puch
The light switch does have a purpose. . . Top position is called hibeams… how do you not know that..
That grey scooter was just a rip off from the original, beautiful and reliable Piaggio Vespa. Old version with manual transmission
The same old mistakes? The Scooter is a style of bike it does not define the Engine Size? Most people will have first experience on a 50 cc Moped designed not to exceed 30 MPH. Min age 16. In my days it was a Raleigh Runabout (Motorised Bike with Pedals). After that I went to a Vespa 150 cc Super Sport. Later on it became the 125 cc Scooters and Motor Bikes. Limited to Max 65 MPH Min age 17. Which is why some opt for a Minimum age 17 Motor Car? What you fail to say is that the Honda Silver Wing is a 650 cc Scooter capable of over 100 MPH? Information?
what about dirt bikes and cafe racers?
Please have a look through our other video's, there are many different ones including dirt bikes and cafe racers.
why do you not need gear to ride a moped?
Keep watching. It's a common thing to assume.
it was the intro where he tripped all his gear off just before he got onto the moped which sets a bad example.
David Brent.
He didn't include in his description that all three scooters are Italian...?!!!
That's because they are all Chinese scooters ie all modern 4 stroke automatic scooters but the AJS is an old vespa clone at least in it's looks
@@ipaddy it took 3 years to finally get some type of response thank you...!!!
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Phil Collins?!
I gave up the music after that damn gorilla and his chocolate advert ruined my career...
I have just bought a AleXone, was the reason i watched this video why get a scooter hater to do a review? All they're going to do is put off possible buyers...
Where did you get that I 'hate' scooters?
maybe it was the "now I don't realy like scooters" comment!
Steps of a motorcycle, takes off all of his protective gear and steps on a scooter thinking it isn't necessary...
Slide on the road at 30 and they will be scraping your skin of the road with a spatula... Keep it safe guys!
Riding off camera is hardly the same as road riding...it is for effect. If you watch all our other videos you will see we always ride on the road all geared up.
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The fact that he is riding a café racer already make some suspect to me.
SHAME on Modena scooter, it's just a Chinese scooter which doesn't deserve the name of a so beautiful city(I live near Modena). Moreover Modena is related to sport cars Maserati, Ferrari, not to scooters and Vespa (it's placed in Pontedera, near Pisa)
scooters are for commuting, motorcycles are toys
I would say Lambretta, Vespa, Royal Alloy etc owners would disagree
Do yourself a favor and buy a honda for goodness sake.
I would interested to know your reasons why? BTW, A lot of the Honda ranges are being made in China now too.
My Honda was made in Thailand
My Honda was made in Taiwan
My Honda was made in India
My Honda was made in Asia - somewhere.
My Nissan was made/assembled in Sunderland.
Well the key word is Honda, and wherever it is built, it will be produced to a specification or standard that is set and monitored by Honda.
Reving a scooter won't make it go faster? Great science
Do you not understand?
@@motorsforthemasses probably not haha, I'm not making fun of you I just meant that to go forward you have to rev the bike sorry if I annoyed you, really enjoyed the video though!
@@alexheslop8207 no, not annoyed at all. I was referring to those that sit at full throttle at 30mph then continue to keep revving and revving sporadically, thinking it will make it go faster lol
Errrh, why if you hate scooters, are you reviewing three?
This guy is funny lol
Alexeeoneeeeee
Do your self a favour and go to ling's across road and don't by from these as there after robbing you service is non existent if you complain do nothing .want to push the bike in to the road .cheers for that offer manager Jamie .
Never had a problem with them to be honest, otherwise I would not have bought from them, nor would I review their bikes, so never had any issues.
Motors for the Masses wish I could say the same . 10 months of hell with this company .
Hahaha Chow!
Don't like scooters ever since my old man bought me a Vespa 180ss while I was saving for a m/bike, use too seize up throw me off- near killed me dam thing. This bunch look fat- skinny and ugly...for a fist full of dollars, chow baby I'm off on my zimmer
LOL, I feel you! Not my thing either...but we like to be diverse; lots do love them.
I am a scooter fan, but these scooters are crap. Made in jungle clearing by a man that goes to work on a buffalo. The issue with these things is they are woefully dated underneath. An 8 bhp air cooled engine in a maxi scooter just will not cut it no matter how sharp it is styled. The other problem is the bikes crop up with different names and company logos, and there is no brand identity or confidence these things will be around in 18 months. The Alex one or whatever it is called is seen masquerading in other markets called other names, even lexmoto have a a very similar looking machine, with a 8bhp air cooled lump! Best spend your 2K on a good used established brand with a modern liquid cooled engine producing much nearer the 15bhp threshold.
you need a mic
We use a boom mic and we had issues with our old mic that day. However we are looking at a radio mic setup
if the guy is anti scooters he should probably not do any scooter reviews...
Not every reviewer likes everything they review. I was actually pretty positive considering I am not a scooter fan myself...so that really means they were good scooters so as to impress
Your horse power numbers might be right but when you relate them to speed your incorrect. 10 hp doesn't mean you can go 65 mph. Also a tachometer on a scooter make since for tuning it correctly. Stick to motorcycles mate.
Your helmet's full of water... Open your visor.
Fart at 2:44
HAHA, creaky bodywork. Trust me, if I farted...we would have made a big deal out of it lol
Nice video, but please stop using cross-dissolve as your transition-animation. I think it is really annoying.
Comedy isn’t your strong point, chief.
Cavernous
The guy is making bad jokes/trying to be funny most of the video. Thanks for wasting my time!
You are very welcome
Liked this, but lose the attempted corny comedy one liners. They aren't funny , just make me cringe when I hear them!
Cant rev a scooter there >s no neutral lol goofball
People do rev them, to the point they jolt forward a little and when they are at 28-32mph, they keep revving it in hope it does 35
It's not a 1-2-5 it's a one-25, when it comes to a 150 you don't call it a 1-5-0 , do you? I hate that terminology!!!!!
Everyone and their mother call them 1-2-5's...you may very well be in the minority there.
@@motorsforthemasses no only idiots like you
@@howardlangford8087 do you live in the UK? Why the anger? So weird and wrong still. In the UK, most people call it a 1-2-5 fact!
@@howardlangford8087I bet you've never had a passport.
@@fintonmainz7845I bet you're wrong
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applies just the same...cheers!
your videos are hilarious.i watch mainly for the delivery. clueless.:D keep up the bad work
Jealousy is not an attractive trait.
you misunderstand me. i enjoy your videos. i remember riding learner bikes years ago, and its the fact that you are not experts which lends your content charm. what do you think i have to be jealous of?
I apologise if I misunderstood; it was the comment "clueless.:D keep up the bad work" that did not ooze positivity. It is often evidenced by people who make video's then criticise other people. We had one comment a few months ago where a guy said our video was amateur and pathetic; when I watched his video, the audio levels were up and down, wind noise all the time, shaky handheld video....
I do remember we had a mic issue half way through filming that day
i'm not a content creator. nor am i a self professed expert. your videos are fun. it takes me back. my comment was intended to be humorous. . if i want to watch polished videos the internet is full of 25 year old Americans with highlights using studio lighting, , on asound stage,discussing the latest ducatis. the bike shed in London makes hipster videos,but im watching your videos. because its two blokes in a shed.
AR are a rip off
This comparison/review isn't particularly helpful if you're actually looking for useful feedback. It comes across as somewhat disrespectful at points when you don't even research how to pronounce the names correctly.... Not wise to state you aren't a fan of scooters either as you are already portraying a biased review which doesn't help anyone wishing to get an insight into it. A quick shot of riding up and down the side road also doesn't help get a good idea of the scooters road performance and abilities. A disappointing review and genuinely useless as a scooter guide
Old video! Things have changed
Also, we knew how to pronounce it...just being jovial... can't please everyone
You want a scooter? Buy Italian. None of this China crap, not Honda which is also made in China these days.
isn't motorini english idk tho im not having a go or anything
China makes and sells far more scooter than Italy
125cc scooters for womans not man
You big mans?