As a black woman, the idea of people just finding out that beauty schools don't teach about black hair and some even basically outright reject models with this hair type to learn on, is such a foreign concept. Most black women basically a whole ass degree in hair just from the lack of education of professionals.
I close friend is white with very coily curls. She would have me put straighteners on it and flat iron it. Because we're both white, we have no idea how to take care of it. She moved away and shaved it.
On the flip side some of the shops that are black owned usually only work on their texture of hair and don’t know how to work on “white” people hair. No disrespect intended just saying what I have observed in my life. It’s great to have specialty knowledge though.
I went to cosmetology school 20 years ago and we still had to do many press & curl services with the scary ovens and hot tools. It was so weird they had us specifically learn that, but not more modern or varied services for more textured hair. All in all, cosmo school isn't great for becoming skilled or specialized in your craft. That generally comes later
I remember realizing I had some minor crows feet at like 22. My mom immediately wanted to start buying me a bunch of creams to try and plump them out again and stop them from getting worse, etc. Told her idk I think the fact that I've spent so much of my time with my eyes crinkled up smiling and laughing that I have crows feet at 22 is something I'd rather celebrate than hide.
LOL, good for you!! I'm at least as old as your mom and I applaud you! But as an older woman I will say that you will be glad if you start using face cream asap, it really helps! But I love your zest for life, keep smiling and laughing and you WILL stay young!! 🌷🌷🌷
I had a teacher when I was about 8 who said they were lines from laughing and you should try and have as many as possible. It has stuck with me all these years!
If anything they should be fearmongering about skin cancer from sun damage. That's personally a lot more effective than "umm eww...old😬better do something about that"
Sadly, I think people are more likely to care about their appearance. People aren't great at assessing risk and assume skin cancer won't affect them. Ageing is guaranteed.
I went and watched the Dove commercial. I know it’s just marketing, but there is something truly empowering about seeing older women looking badass, creative, cool, confident, and unapologetic about their age. It’s kind of sad that we so rarely see this depiction when it lessens the fear of simply fading into the background as you age.
Jen's pro-aging pep(tide?) talk around 12mins in rocked my wrinkly world. I've been feeling pretty bad about aging lately. I went thru something so it feels like I'm suddenly so haggard, yikes. So I need a boost of rad "crone models" to look forward to the potentialities within the aging process. Good for Dove.
I need to repeat myself (sorry!) - aging is a privilege many don’t/won’t get to achieve! Of course take care of your body, mind and psyche, but for heaven’s sake- enjoy the ride!!!
I am 30 and I have some wrinkles. I lost a lot of weight in a short time and my skin is more saggy and wrinkles are more visible. I already had a body dysmorphia and disassociated a lot when looking at my face in the mirror but now it's getting worse. Especially because I looked way younger than my age my whole life. But on the other hand people thought I was a young adult or a teenager and mistreated me a lot so maybe it will stop or at least lessen. I also struggle a lot with mental disorders and I was suicidal for a long time. I wasn't sure if I would survive till 30. And I did. Now my next milestone is 40. Not that I will kill myself at 40 but it's easier to think about.
I went to beauty school in Washington state back in 1998. We had to learn how to apply relaxer and spent a week learning how to work with textured hair. The real problem is/was having customers come in with that type of hair to actually work on. A mannequin head can only go so far.
That's because 1) Black women have been burned too many times and have trust issues with most hairdressers and 2) people will offer black models with 4c hair for practice and schools will outright reject the offer, so when they get the opportunity schools are excluding them anyway.
When I went to cosmetology school- it’s likely more about the location tbh- we had approximately a 50% poc school.. but I live in metro Detroit. That’s the norm. So we naturally learned how to work with textured hair. Two of our four instructors were women of color- so it’s always been odd to me that hairstylists don’t know how to handle textured hair. I’m glad it’s finally being encouraged/part of curriculum.
As an elder gen z, (about to be 24), I personally hate when brands are obviously are " trying to carter" to us. They make it so obvious that that's what they're doing. And the almost always miss the mark because we know that what is happening. And we're always the generation that " going to save the brand". They make that clear as well. It's not actually complicated to get our attention imo. And brands would know that if they had more of that on their teams.
I just turned 33 and something that’s been interesting about getting older is seeing that I’m no longer the “target demographic” for new products, and seeing how transparently thirsty but also profoundly out of touch companies are for the youngest consumers. It feels very “hello fellow kids,” even more than when I was a 20something
I am at the FTC part, and it would be nice if they actually enforced their rules. I have to weed through all the incentivized reviews to get to the honest ones. I have resorted to reading one and two star reviews before I think about buying a product. They don’t enforce anything, especially with sponsored content, unless it’s about sugar and aspartame.🙄
A lot of the incentivized reviews come from Influenster, BzzAgent, and other reviewer programs that send out free products in exchange for honest reviews. I'm not 100% positive that people don't lie just to try to get noticed, so many people are mesmerized by PR packages and shit.. but even as someone who has always been honest on those reviews myself, I skim thru them & wait until there's real consumer reviews before I trust the rating system.
I worked as a school nurse and the one thing I realize a lot the past several years is that parents just aren’t as responsible anymore. So I can see where the law is coming from, but I knew it wasn’t going to work.
I'm getting there too but I try to avoid saying my age bc it feels awkward to be told I look younger (not me bragging; I'm in a creative field so it's an illusion). I do actually look my age. & I want that to be fine. But I also don't want to be that "compliment judo" person who makes someone feel bad for saying something our whole society agrees is a kind nice thing to say to older women. So I usually just joke + deflect, I'm not great at talking about it. I thought we'd value older women more by the time I got here. I can't control everything but I hope if I stay curious + learning + engaged with the world + people I meet in it, that might be a good foundation for aging well.
I went to Cosmetology school in Michigan in the 80s. We had textured hair care as part of the curriculum. I have textured hair. I think the problem is once students graduate, they fail to continue to have real life continuing experience with textured hair. Some times you walk into a salon and you see the “ deer in the headlights look” and you know you had better scatter. But this is an encouraging start.
It’s not just the US, the UK hairdressing system was the same… I did my level 2 and 3 in hairdressing in England in 2019-2021 and the only education I got on types 3 and 4 hair was off my own back by looking for placements and through UA-cam.
I’m white with 3 hair. I’m forever indebted to all the natural hair blogs & videos explaining how to care for my hair”bad” hair. It’s not bad, it’s textured, and not once in my first 40 years did I ever get good advice from a hairdresser. Now I know how to care for it so my curls pop & it feels soft, and thank heavens there are so many affordable products now (altho I must have my briogeo mask), I can finally like my hair! Even the stylist who coaxed out my post partum curls didn’t realize I need ultra lightweight intense moisture (and then married my ex husband and now doesn’t cut my hair! What kind of monster steals their ex’s hairdresser?!?! She can have him but I wanted to keep her!)
In 1999, I went to a Hair Cuttery to get my hair washed and blow dried. I was a black woman with chemically straightened hair at the time. Once the stylist washed my hair, she and her manager informed me that they would not be able to use their combs, brushes and hair dryers in my hair per company policy. My hair was soaking wet and they told me they could do nothing more in front of all the other customers. They were apologetic and gave me a towel and escorted me to the door after accepting my payment for the hair wash. I was beyond embarrassed…felt so small and less than in the moment. Never went back to another Hair Cuttery. Glad to hear there’s progress in ending discrimination and segregation in the hair care services market.
What was their policy exactly? Was it really that they couldn’t service people of a certain race or certain hair? This makes me angry that they did this to u. I’m so sorry that happened.
I’m floored that they still charged you for the wash. The very least they could’ve done was waive the cost for your time, inconvenience, and humiliation. 🤦♀️
Did you see Dolly Parton is coming out with a beauty line? Another influencer brand lol but I am genuinely so excited for this because… it’s Dolly. You’re probably putting in the product report 😂
When they came out with the hydro boost moisturizer with SPF I bought it with high hopes. At the time I hadn’t found a good face sunscreen and was trying everything that looked promising. I was horribly disappointed with it!! It felt like putting regular (cheap) body sunscreen on my face, and smelt like it too! But the worst part was the eye stinging!!! (I now buy my facial sunscreen outside of the US/Canada because our countries are very behind in approving new better formulas. La ros posay UVmune 400 is my current favourite)
Exactly why I don't use their SPF (I don't actually have any of their products!) Their sunscreens usually leave a cast, and they *always* sting the eyes! I have only used Asian sunscreens for the past couple of years because they meet all of my needs, they're affordable, and they never sting my eyes!
ETSY deletes and or won’t show bad reviews. I posted one because of an issue and got 2 horrible texts back and my review was no where to be seen…..Infact, this seller had all 5 stars reviews-amazing!
I just wanted to share that a friend of mine had a company reach out to her and offer to refund her the cost of her purchase if she deleted here negative review. Sneaky!!!
I've stopped caring about Neutragena since they discontinued the foaming face wash. It used to remove my makeup so well, I'm so upset they got rid of it.
I didn’t realize they stopped making that. It was very good. A good replacement might be Eucerin Face Gentle Cleansing Hydrating Cleansing Gel, Daily Face Wash and Makeup Remover with Hyaluronic Acid. I bought that this month and it does take off makeup really well.
One of the most beautiful women imo is Helen Mirren. She allows herself to age naturally and flaunts bathing suits etc as well. She’s my inspiration as I’m close to her age and want to embrace it like she does ❤
I graduated cosmetology school and got my cosmo license in Indiana in 2015. We learned NOTHING about working on textured hair. Even when the students asked, it seemed to be glossed over. It was always stated “the basics are learned in school, but you will learn many more specialties when you start working in the field “ 🙃
As someone who went to Cosmetology school in NY in 2003, we were taught how to work on textured hair. We were also told we weren’t allowed to refuse service on anyone, unless they had lice. So, you had to know how to work on everybody’s hair because you never knew who was going to be in your chair.
Oh my gosh, just by coincidence I've been thinking about ordering Avon and possibly selling it this last week. I have NEVER been particularly interested in Avon until now but it's got my interest because as a mature woman I value the fact that the company is still in existence and a lot of old products that people remember are still around. I think a lot of us really love that fragrance and cosmetic nostalgia. I'm glad that (I think what I understood you say) is that the US and Canada and Puerto Rico won't be affected because The Avon Company removed the talc when they acquired Avon! Thanks for your amazing reporting Jen!🌻🌻🌻
@@msdouglas12100 I feel like a lot of people would wear Avon if they had a reliable, more impersonal source. Buying direct from them is great and I'm glad this doesn't affect the North American region!
Please don't join an MLM! 😫 Their products aren't even worth the costs at this point in the cosmetic game when you can buy affordable products with excellent color ranges.
@@EMILY4DAYS Hi Emily! Thanks so much for your comment and concern!🥰 I've actually been hella researching Avon since I saw this video and I'm actually so glad I did because I've learned so much about Avon and it's pretty much all great stuff! As of July of this year, Avon is completely cruelty free and they also have a few vegan cosmetic and skin care lines. They are committed to ethical sourcing like for instance Mica which can be linked to child labor in some cases but Avon does not. Also (This is the LG Avon in North America,( Canada and the US) which is now Korean owned). This is not the Avon that is in the UK which claimed chapter ll). With Avon you don't have to participate in the MLM aspect ( I don't plan to). However, I don't see a problem with some other hard working Avon rep getting a few bucks off of my sales or my purchases. Honestly I've been thinking about the fact that most of us are up in Sephora giving all of our money to LVMH. They're not cruelty free and they're owned by one of the richest people in the world, Bernard Arseneau. LVMH ownes so much of the stuff we regularly buy now like Christian Dior, Rihanna's Fenty Beauty, Givenchy, Guerlain, Fendi, Benefit, Loewe, Celine, Marc Jacobs and I can go on and on. Truthfully I'm sick of giving all my cosmetic and fragrance dollars to ONE COMPANY. And in the world of drug store cosmetics there are no real answers either. I have honestly found that Avon is a pretty cool company and they were one of the first around having started in 1886. I also want to say that when I was younger I worked both behind the counter in cosmetics for Dior, and was a promo rep for Guerlain also. I do have a history with this stuff and I think Avon is in a great place to change a lot of people's minds about their products. They've changed mine! 🤣😂🤣 Anyhoo, thanks again!
Wow, that Dove commercial made me cry TWICE. I am starving for more visibility of the women ahead of me in age. I'm not going backwards, only forward, and seeing these women freaking ROCK is more of what I need.
6:45 A point I wish to speak to; my later mother was always terrified of growing older. She told me that when she reached the age of 50, she cried all day. Growing older is a gift denied to many. She passed away 10 years later. Very sad. Another point I’d like to address, I used to buy the Neutrogena face soap. It was a clear brown bar of soap. This was about 25 years ago, when I was still battling with very mild acne. My now ex husband would use it as a full body soap! What?😱 I asked him to please stop using it as a body soap! I bought Irish Spring for him. He said, “Oh, I like that brown soap so much better.” I told him how expensive it was. He then argued with me. He wanted me to stop buying it. 🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️
I’m a stylist in NC that works with mainly textured hair- I chose a salon that would teach me because my school didn’t. We were taught to straighten curls and then cut. I’m so grateful for this knowledge, especially with being curly myself, but it’s unfortunately rare in this industry. Hope more states hop on 🤞🏻
I really dislike this obsession with telling 20 year olds that they have to start anti-aging prep now. When i was in my 20s all I did was wash my face, use an exfoliant when I needed to cus I had dry patches and my makeup needed to sit better (also to help with acne), and wore sunscreen cus I'm pale as hell and skin cancer runs in the family. That's ~basically what my routine is still today in my early 30s, I alternate the chemical exfoliant with minor retinol to help that acne I still get and it's sunscreen every day. Don't use collagen, don't do that weird shedding thing people do where they tape their entire head up at night, i just eat decently and drink water. You'll be fine kids aging is a privilege.
same experience and agree with all you said except i used moisturizer back then too. None of the million steps. And I do like adding collagen to my smoothies to bump up the protein and my nails have never grown so quickly, even, and strong!
Hey Jen! Love your content and these updates! Dove does magic with it's marketing, but it fails to address the issue of pollution caused by their single use plastic products in developing countries. I'm just mentioning it here so that we can collectively research more about it and choose to do what's right for us. ❤
I have gone to my hair stylist starting from the age of like 7. I am white but I have VERY curly and textured hair. She learned how to do textured hair to the best of her ability by working with my hair. She has done her best but I still need to find a curly hair specialist soon for a curly girl hair cut. I’m so glad kids aren’t going to go through what I did. Hating my hair because I didn’t know how to take care of it. Then being made fun of it. Heck even though I know how to take care of it I STILL get made fun of because of my hair even though I’m 30 years old. And I know how to take care of it know and I love my curls. I’m just so thankful for the crown act and what it’s doing.
6:48 I used to use the Neutrogena clear tan bar religiously as a teenager and young adult. When I got into my 30s up to my early 40s I used the gel cleanser and gel cream. I stopped using them when the price points tripled back in 2019! Gen Z can have it!
In 2009, when I was studying to be an operator for cosmetology in Texas…I was trained & worked on type 3 & 4, A B & C. We had a student with 4C hair that we all worked on 😅
Happy Sunday I hope everybody is having a good weekend. I imagine with the FTC it’s incredibly hard to monitor and control all of the influencers and everyone across the Internet perhaps if they just go after the brands and make them more accountable across-the-board not only including this topic, but a lot of this will stop. Thanks for always being authentic and honest Jen
I'm still a Neutrogena customer. I'm also an older millenial and I've also gotten my kids to start using face wash as well. My oldest is almost 11. Now their face moisturizer is from Duke Canon and has sunscreen in it. I know it doesn't replace full out sunscreen on their faces, but i have a hard time getting them to wear sunscreen
Regarding the regulations on skincare for kids, I partially agree and partially disagree. I agree parents should be guiding their children and observing their interests, behaviors, and concerns. I agree that accurate scientific information should guide our policies. A good example of bad legislation here in CA is requiring a certain red food dye be eliminated from food even though it's perfectly safe. CA was so proud of this because now it'll force companies to reformulate to sell in the U.S. We have plenty of actual health risks we need legislation for, but thank goodness skittles will have a different red dye that maybe hasn't been used or tested as long. *Slow clap* Where I disagree is that the companies are not responsible for their marketing. To speak to an issue you raised in this video, preying on people's concerns about ageing, by using ageist tactics to market to young adults, isn't okay. They should be accurate in their marketing. If it's not ok to use these tactics on 25 year olds, I don't think it's ok to use them on teenagers. Even if the parents are managing what their kids are buying, those messages are still seeping in and creating a false "need" for these products in the eyes of the teens. Therefore, I think it would be reasonable to create regulations about how companies can market to kids. It's similar to regulations we have for marketing flavored vaping products. Even when the companies try to pretend they're not marketing to kids, but we see the negative effects, we do something about it to keep kids safe and, hopefully, get them to a healthier adulthood.
As we've seen with Roe v Wade, blanket bans/restrictions on things is a bad idea. When you don't pay attention to science, to nuances and complexity, it backfires and people get hurt.
Love Jen❤ I do disagree abt Neutrogena. I saw the ads and thought of them as informative (but not educational). We all know as adults we lose collagen and we chase that firmness infinitely. If I'd been taughy earlier in my 20s I wouldve done more. Just my 22 cents. And by the way, most beauty products kinda over-promise under-deliver
you are right, buy dont you also feel like all the brands nowadays are talking about losing collagen like the end of the world and making a huge deal about it just to make a quick buck? just to say "ugh aging is ewww" or whatever. they could have done ANYTHING to talk about the collagen thing but they chose this route. idk i feel like it's a little misleading honestly. saying that as a huge neutrogena fan myself
As a Puerto Rican woman, I can attest to the fact that we have to find specialized salons for our hair. I have 3b curly hair, which is like in the middle of the hair texture spectrum, and even that most hair stylists can’t handle. I went to a salon in CA while vacationing and she knew how to handle my hair and when I expressed my surprise she said that when hired they have to take extra training the corporation provides. It’s nice they’re making this legal requirement. Minority groups end up having to spend extra money because the schools don’t teach textured hair and we can’t just go to our nearest xpress cuts or cheap Walmart salon
Thank you for pointing out that collagen in lotion doesn't increase collagen in your skin. I have a genetic disease that messes with my collagen production and the number of times people have said "just take collagen supplements and use collagen moisturizer" as if that would be the cure is baffling. Putting collagen on your skin doesn't give you back collagen that you've lost and also AGING IS FINE. Try to look like the best version of the age you are ffs.
I’m on the cusp of millenial/gen Z, and i’m 30. I’m still not going to buy Neutrogena, but it’s good to know they’re trying to reach a market above 15 year olds and under 60 year olds!
Jen, I have been a fan for a while now and I love your channel. Thank you for all your hard and thourough job of keeping us well informed. You are the best! My daughter and i love watching you. ❤
In regard to fake reviews, people should NOT be allowed to review a business just to bring down their ratings. A person should be required to provide a valid transaction number to verify that they were an actual customer. So many business have been hurt by fake customers.
Talk about aging, I wouldn't have ever guessed you're 46. Lucky you✨ Another proof of how much genetics play a part. I would say it's 70% genetics and the rest skincare products, sun exposure, diet...
I would love to learn how to work with textured hair. Including braids, extensions, and weaves. I would be obsessed and love to learn how to do all of it!!! I've always loved everything that has to do with hair!!! It's always been a dream of mine!
I'm gen z and I've been using Neutrogena since I first got into skincare when I was a teen. I'm 27 now and my all time fave cleanser is that Hydroboost cleanser and it has been for years now! its got the same selling points of CeraVe (fragrance free, gentle but effective, inexpensive) but for me Neutrogena is way less irritating. it's a bummer hearing they're going the ageism route because so many of their products are simple problem solvers that people of all ages can use and enjoy.
“maybe it’s just my age that i enjoy it” - that’s the point! not only is it very important for young people to have these messages instilled in them from a young age, i think it totally makes sense why you love the dove ad considering we’ve all seen how the skincare industry weaponizes aging against consumers and Creates insecurities rather than Helping to destigmatize them. i got the ad recently and loved it myself :)
just don’t want you to feel like your opinion on anti-aging industry is less important Because of your age.. honestly it makes your voice more powerful to younger people ! (im 21 and i love ur perspective!)
Definitely need everyone to be able to work with textured hair. I'd also love it if they were trained on how to service those with special needs as well. ❤
Hi Jen, when I went to cosmetology school in New York, we had to learn how to cut textured hair is a special way of doing it in order to pass our state boards that was back in 1983. They are behind the times. Neutrogena is too expensive. I can buy oil valet. I can buy the other brand and drugstore cheaper than I can buy Neutro. It was a six-year-old on TikTok using retinol before she went to school on her first day of school had her nails done and everything. Where is her mother.
Tons of parents abdicated taking responsibility for making sure their kids were safe long ago. For instance, suing a restaurant because their kid was hurt while they let them run all over the place. Getting up in arms over kids watching inappropriate content because they aren't checking what their kids are watching or setting parental guards. I could go on and on. So thinking Sephora should make sure their kids can't buy anything that could harm them is right in line with all the other neglect parents have exhibited for decades.
Education on textured hair should be mandatory everywhere. I have only started embracing my natural type 3 hair under 2 years ago. I spent decades punishing my hair with heat tools and chemical straightenings. And yes, now having a curl specialist cutting my hair does make a huge difference. I do advocate for daily SPF application, I do love Neutrogena's Hydro Boost and I did not get onto actually worrying about my aging skin until turning 41... My 42-year old self stands for loving yourself as you are and being the best version of yourself for you!
22:59 It also doesn’t make sense that the plan was for 13 year olds to show id. What ID? If the school doesn’t have a student ID, they have nothing to show besides a birth certificate
I’ve always loved Dove being a brand that fights the stigma of age and unrealistic beauty standards. It has since I can remember and this ad just makes me happy to see them do it again. Tying in another subject that’s recurring on Jen Luvs, I was raised by my grandmother and in the last years of her life she lost a lot of her money to an MLM who does weight loss and health products (if you know who they are you can guess right it away it’s a big company) a woman with a wildly successful and accomplished life, a strong feminist active in the ERA campaign and who never took crap from anyone fell victim to an MLM from a combination of their “run your own business” marketing tactics and her own self-consciousness about being overweight. I makes me happy to see Dove out there fighting the stigmas that hurt my family dearly and plague people to this day.
The only time I've ever used anything from Neutrogena was when I was a teenager (I'm almost 38 now). I used to use their oil free acne wash. It did work great but once my acne cleared up I never explored anything else from them
As a black woman who attended Jean Madeline I'm glad to hear this ... ofcourse I know how to take care of textured hair .. but my classmates should've learned as well 🤷🏾♀️
I only love one Neutrogena product - Hydroboost Dry as it's fragrance free and I love dimethicone to seal in my evening routine . They have too many products and they need to change their marketing . People don't know about the reformulated products and the other added extras.
Yes! I’ve reached a goal! Old and wrinkled. Serious question though, what age do you consider old? Not asking for a friend. I’ve never felt old. I’ve never looked my age, BUT it is starting to creep in and it feels weird.
Dove intense moisturising products products from face creams to body wash are lovely. However, if you don’t like heavy scents, their products may not be for you.
I find it interesting that brands are marketed quite differently in different markets. In New Zealand and Australia, Neutrogena is at the chemist warehouse (discount chemist) and it's targeted towards people with eczema and similar conditions.
I agree with Sarah Millican's take on aging: "fuck you, aging is a privilege, and not everyone gets the chance." The way I see it, there is only one alternative to aging, and that is premature death. Take care of your body and your skin and hope that one day you get to look back on many decades of life, having become an old prune. Not everyone makes it that far.
Hi Jen! I recently found your channel and I love it. The Hyram thumbnail you chose has a Neutrogena product featured on the left side (and is in that video). So while Gen Z skinfluencers are probably talking about The Ordinary and CeraVe more, they are talking about Neutrogena… just not as much. Again I love your channel, and this is not a criticism, just the way I see things.
I went to cosmetology school for about 3 months, about 12 years ago and I don’t remember learning anything about textured hair. In the state I live in, we had to have more hours than even California. So one would think some of those hours could have been devoted to learning about textured hair. I dropped out when my job needed me full time and I realized I didn’t like touching other people lol. Should a thought of that before I enrolled. Glad they are financially teaching how to work with ALL kinds of hair. Long overdue. Also, I remember that Johnson & Johnson did something shady and split up their company when the lawsuits started happening so maybe Avon is doing something similar. Idk.
As a gen X I wanted to love Neutrogena back in the day. It actually irritated my sensitive skin and I never tried it again. It was so expensive that I wouldn't risk it.
As a black woman, the idea of people just finding out that beauty schools don't teach about black hair and some even basically outright reject models with this hair type to learn on, is such a foreign concept. Most black women basically a whole ass degree in hair just from the lack of education of professionals.
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I close friend is white with very coily curls. She would have me put straighteners on it and flat iron it. Because we're both white, we have no idea how to take care of it. She moved away and shaved it.
On the flip side some of the shops that are black owned usually only work on their texture of hair and don’t know how to work on “white” people hair. No disrespect intended just saying what I have observed in my life. It’s great to have specialty knowledge though.
I went to cosmetology school 20 years ago and we still had to do many press & curl services with the scary ovens and hot tools. It was so weird they had us specifically learn that, but not more modern or varied services for more textured hair.
All in all, cosmo school isn't great for becoming skilled or specialized in your craft. That generally comes later
My local salon is starting to specialize in textured hair care and offer "curl care class", i think it's so cool, and about time! ❤
I remember realizing I had some minor crows feet at like 22. My mom immediately wanted to start buying me a bunch of creams to try and plump them out again and stop them from getting worse, etc. Told her idk I think the fact that I've spent so much of my time with my eyes crinkled up smiling and laughing that I have crows feet at 22 is something I'd rather celebrate than hide.
LOL, good for you!! I'm at least as old as your mom and I applaud you! But as an older woman I will say that you will be glad if you start using face cream asap, it really helps! But I love your zest for life, keep smiling and laughing and you WILL stay young!!
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I had a teacher when I was about 8 who said they were lines from laughing and you should try and have as many as possible. It has stuck with me all these years!
If anything they should be fearmongering about skin cancer from sun damage. That's personally a lot more effective than "umm eww...old😬better do something about that"
exactly its not good either way but at least it would be a little more honest and not ageism so...
Sadly, I think people are more likely to care about their appearance. People aren't great at assessing risk and assume skin cancer won't affect them. Ageing is guaranteed.
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I went and watched the Dove commercial. I know it’s just marketing, but there is something truly empowering about seeing older women looking badass, creative, cool, confident, and unapologetic about their age. It’s kind of sad that we so rarely see this depiction when it lessens the fear of simply fading into the background as you age.
Jen's pro-aging pep(tide?) talk around 12mins in rocked my wrinkly world. I've been feeling pretty bad about aging lately. I went thru something so it feels like I'm suddenly so haggard, yikes. So I need a boost of rad "crone models" to look forward to the potentialities within the aging process. Good for Dove.
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I'm a freshly 25 year old Gen Z, and in my opinion this is one of the dumbest angles Neutrogena could've gone with.
I turned 30 on Aug 2nd, and definitely believed Neutrogena lost a lot of consumers to Elf.
Their shade range is bogus, they are too expensive for walmart, and they are always focused on "looking young forever"
@@cdlstoddardI turned 25 on August 2nd! :)
What is rude is Neutrogena charging $30 for a face cream? Like the audacity
I need to repeat myself (sorry!) - aging is a privilege many don’t/won’t get to achieve! Of course take care of your body, mind and psyche, but for heaven’s sake- enjoy the ride!!!
I am 30 and I have some wrinkles. I lost a lot of weight in a short time and my skin is more saggy and wrinkles are more visible. I already had a body dysmorphia and disassociated a lot when looking at my face in the mirror but now it's getting worse. Especially because I looked way younger than my age my whole life. But on the other hand people thought I was a young adult or a teenager and mistreated me a lot so maybe it will stop or at least lessen.
I also struggle a lot with mental disorders and I was suicidal for a long time. I wasn't sure if I would survive till 30. And I did. Now my next milestone is 40. Not that I will kill myself at 40 but it's easier to think about.
Are you my twin? Literally my story lol @@eurodara
Morphe needs to just go away. I don’t understand why they are doing the most for a brand that isn’t even good or well liked? Make it make sense.
I went to beauty school in Washington state back in 1998. We had to learn how to apply relaxer and spent a week learning how to work with textured hair. The real problem is/was having customers come in with that type of hair to actually work on. A mannequin head can only go so far.
That's because 1) Black women have been burned too many times and have trust issues with most hairdressers and 2) people will offer black models with 4c hair for practice and schools will outright reject the offer, so when they get the opportunity schools are excluding them anyway.
When I went to cosmetology school- it’s likely more about the location tbh- we had approximately a 50% poc school.. but I live in metro Detroit. That’s the norm. So we naturally learned how to work with textured hair. Two of our four instructors were women of color- so it’s always been odd to me that hairstylists don’t know how to handle textured hair. I’m glad it’s finally being encouraged/part of curriculum.
From Warren...I went to cos school in 2019, and that was my experience, too❤
As an elder gen z, (about to be 24), I personally hate when brands are obviously are " trying to carter" to us. They make it so obvious that that's what they're doing. And the almost always miss the mark because we know that what is happening. And we're always the generation that " going to save the brand". They make that clear as well. It's not actually complicated to get our attention imo. And brands would know that if they had more of that on their teams.
I just turned 33 and something that’s been interesting about getting older is seeing that I’m no longer the “target demographic” for new products, and seeing how transparently thirsty but also profoundly out of touch companies are for the youngest consumers. It feels very “hello fellow kids,” even more than when I was a 20something
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I am at the FTC part, and it would be nice if they actually enforced their rules. I have to weed through all the incentivized reviews to get to the honest ones. I have resorted to reading one and two star reviews before I think about buying a product. They don’t enforce anything, especially with sponsored content, unless it’s about sugar and aspartame.🙄
A lot of the incentivized reviews come from Influenster, BzzAgent, and other reviewer programs that send out free products in exchange for honest reviews. I'm not 100% positive that people don't lie just to try to get noticed, so many people are mesmerized by PR packages and shit.. but even as someone who has always been honest on those reviews myself, I skim thru them & wait until there's real consumer reviews before I trust the rating system.
I worked as a school nurse and the one thing I realize a lot the past several years is that parents just aren’t as responsible anymore. So I can see where the law is coming from, but I knew it wasn’t going to work.
That Dove commercial is inspiring! I'm 51 years old! If someone asks me how old I am, I say it proudly.
I'm getting there too but I try to avoid saying my age bc it feels awkward to be told I look younger (not me bragging; I'm in a creative field so it's an illusion). I do actually look my age. & I want that to be fine. But I also don't want to be that "compliment judo" person who makes someone feel bad for saying something our whole society agrees is a kind nice thing to say to older women. So I usually just joke + deflect, I'm not great at talking about it. I thought we'd value older women more by the time I got here. I can't control everything but I hope if I stay curious + learning + engaged with the world + people I meet in it, that might be a good foundation for aging well.
I went to Cosmetology school in Michigan in the 80s. We had textured hair care as part of the curriculum. I have textured hair. I think the problem is once students graduate, they fail to continue to have real life continuing experience with textured hair. Some times you walk into a salon and you see the “ deer in the headlights look” and you know you had better scatter. But this is an encouraging start.
It’s not just the US, the UK hairdressing system was the same… I did my level 2 and 3 in hairdressing in England in 2019-2021 and the only education I got on types 3 and 4 hair was off my own back by looking for placements and through UA-cam.
I’m white with 3 hair. I’m forever indebted to all the natural hair blogs & videos explaining how to care for my hair”bad” hair. It’s not bad, it’s textured, and not once in my first 40 years did I ever get good advice from a hairdresser. Now I know how to care for it so my curls pop & it feels soft, and thank heavens there are so many affordable products now (altho I must have my briogeo mask), I can finally like my hair! Even the stylist who coaxed out my post partum curls didn’t realize I need ultra lightweight intense moisture (and then married my ex husband and now doesn’t cut my hair! What kind of monster steals their ex’s hairdresser?!?! She can have him but I wanted to keep her!)
In 1999, I went to a Hair Cuttery to get my hair washed and blow dried. I was a black woman with chemically straightened hair at the time. Once the stylist washed my hair, she and her manager informed me that they would not be able to use their combs, brushes and hair dryers in my hair per company policy. My hair was soaking wet and they told me they could do nothing more in front of all the other customers. They were apologetic and gave me a towel and escorted me to the door after accepting my payment for the hair wash. I was beyond embarrassed…felt so small and less than in the moment. Never went back to another Hair Cuttery. Glad to hear there’s progress in ending discrimination and segregation in the hair care services market.
What was their policy exactly? Was it really that they couldn’t service people of a certain race or certain hair? This makes me angry that they did this to u. I’m so sorry that happened.
I’m floored that they still charged you for the wash. The very least they could’ve done was waive the cost for your time, inconvenience, and humiliation. 🤦♀️
Did you see Dolly Parton is coming out with a beauty line? Another influencer brand lol but I am genuinely so excited for this because… it’s Dolly.
You’re probably putting in the product report 😂
OMG!It should be a volumizing hair product line! The higher the hair, the closer to God!
@@Just.Baileynope, just lipsticks lol
@@themagicknightress7132 such a missed opportunity 😄
I bought a neutrogena face sunscreen. It burned my eyes so badly I threw it away.
it’s a pretty boring brand ngl. i haven’t tried something that made me go; “wow! this is amazing!”
@@laur83 The Hydro Boost and Rapid Wrinkle Repair products are top tier.
When they came out with the hydro boost moisturizer with SPF I bought it with high hopes. At the time I hadn’t found a good face sunscreen and was trying everything that looked promising.
I was horribly disappointed with it!! It felt like putting regular (cheap) body sunscreen on my face, and smelt like it too!
But the worst part was the eye stinging!!!
(I now buy my facial sunscreen outside of the US/Canada because our countries are very behind in approving new better formulas. La ros posay UVmune 400 is my current favourite)
Exactly why I don't use their SPF (I don't actually have any of their products!) Their sunscreens usually leave a cast, and they *always* sting the eyes! I have only used Asian sunscreens for the past couple of years because they meet all of my needs, they're affordable, and they never sting my eyes!
ETSY deletes and or won’t show bad reviews. I posted one because of an issue and got 2 horrible texts back and my review was no where to be seen…..Infact, this seller had all 5 stars reviews-amazing!
I just wanted to share that a friend of mine had a company reach out to her and offer to refund her the cost of her purchase if she deleted here negative review. Sneaky!!!
“Brands cannot control a website where their own brand is reviewed” RIP Paula’s Choice
And I oop 👀
wait where can I find info about this?😮
I've stopped caring about Neutragena since they discontinued the foaming face wash. It used to remove my makeup so well, I'm so upset they got rid of it.
I didn’t realize they stopped making that. It was very good. A good replacement might be Eucerin Face Gentle Cleansing Hydrating Cleansing Gel, Daily Face Wash and Makeup Remover with Hyaluronic Acid. I bought that this month and it does take off makeup really well.
One of the most beautiful women imo is Helen Mirren. She allows herself to age naturally and flaunts bathing suits etc as well. She’s my inspiration as I’m close to her age and want to embrace it like she does ❤
I graduated cosmetology school and got my cosmo license in Indiana in 2015. We learned NOTHING about working on textured hair. Even when the students asked, it seemed to be glossed over. It was always stated “the basics are learned in school, but you will learn many more specialties when you start working in the field “ 🙃
As someone who went to Cosmetology school in NY in 2003, we were taught how to work on textured hair. We were also told we weren’t allowed to refuse service on anyone, unless they had lice. So, you had to know how to work on everybody’s hair because you never knew who was going to be in your chair.
Oh my gosh, just by coincidence I've been thinking about ordering Avon and possibly selling it this last week. I have NEVER been particularly interested in Avon until now but it's got my interest because as a mature woman I value the fact that the company is still in existence and a lot of old products that people remember are still around. I think a lot of us really love that fragrance and cosmetic nostalgia. I'm glad that (I think what I understood you say) is that the US and Canada and Puerto Rico won't be affected because The Avon Company removed the talc when they acquired Avon! Thanks for your amazing reporting Jen!🌻🌻🌻
I've been thinking about Avon too I really want some skin so soft.
@@msdouglas12100 I feel like a lot of people would wear Avon if they had a reliable, more impersonal source. Buying direct from them is great and I'm glad this doesn't affect the North American region!
Please don't join an MLM! 😫 Their products aren't even worth the costs at this point in the cosmetic game when you can buy affordable products with excellent color ranges.
@@EMILY4DAYS Hi Emily! Thanks so much for your comment and concern!🥰 I've actually been hella researching Avon since I saw this video and I'm actually so glad I did because I've learned so much about Avon and it's pretty much all great stuff! As of July of this year, Avon is completely cruelty free and they also have a few vegan cosmetic and skin care lines. They are committed to ethical sourcing like for instance Mica which can be linked to child labor in some cases but Avon does not. Also (This is the LG Avon in North America,( Canada and the US) which is now Korean owned). This is not the Avon that is in the UK which claimed chapter ll). With Avon you don't have to participate in the MLM aspect ( I don't plan to). However, I don't see a problem with some other hard working Avon rep getting a few bucks off of my sales or my purchases. Honestly I've been thinking about the fact that most of us are up in Sephora giving all of our money to LVMH. They're not cruelty free and they're owned by one of the richest people in the world, Bernard Arseneau. LVMH ownes so much of the stuff we regularly buy now like Christian Dior, Rihanna's Fenty Beauty, Givenchy, Guerlain, Fendi, Benefit, Loewe, Celine, Marc Jacobs and I can go on and on. Truthfully I'm sick of giving all my cosmetic and fragrance dollars to ONE COMPANY. And in the world of drug store cosmetics there are no real answers either. I have honestly found that Avon is a pretty cool company and they were one of the first around having started in 1886. I also want to say that when I was younger I worked both behind the counter in cosmetics for Dior, and was a promo rep for Guerlain also. I do have a history with this stuff and I think Avon is in a great place to change a lot of people's minds about their products. They've changed mine! 🤣😂🤣 Anyhoo, thanks again!
I think I'm here before the Jaclyn video but I'm so ready!
Wow, that Dove commercial made me cry TWICE. I am starving for more visibility of the women ahead of me in age. I'm not going backwards, only forward, and seeing these women freaking ROCK is more of what I need.
Couldn't agree more!
I agree that what Neutrogena is doing is rude and misleading. It is giving the same fear mongering vibe that helps green beauty thrive.
6:45 A point I wish to speak to; my later mother was always terrified of growing older. She told me that when she reached the age of 50, she cried all day. Growing older is a gift denied to many. She passed away 10 years later. Very sad.
Another point I’d like to address, I used to buy the Neutrogena face soap. It was a clear brown bar of soap. This was about 25 years ago, when I was still battling with very mild acne. My now ex husband would use it as a full body soap! What?😱 I asked him to please stop using it as a body soap! I bought Irish Spring for him. He said, “Oh, I like that brown soap so much better.” I told him how expensive it was. He then argued with me. He wanted me to stop buying it. 🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️
Hi Jen! Thanks for updating us again I really love your videos! Much love from Europe
I’m a stylist in NC that works with mainly textured hair- I chose a salon that would teach me because my school didn’t. We were taught to straighten curls and then cut. I’m so grateful for this knowledge, especially with being curly myself, but it’s unfortunately rare in this industry. Hope more states hop on 🤞🏻
I really dislike this obsession with telling 20 year olds that they have to start anti-aging prep now. When i was in my 20s all I did was wash my face, use an exfoliant when I needed to cus I had dry patches and my makeup needed to sit better (also to help with acne), and wore sunscreen cus I'm pale as hell and skin cancer runs in the family. That's ~basically what my routine is still today in my early 30s, I alternate the chemical exfoliant with minor retinol to help that acne I still get and it's sunscreen every day. Don't use collagen, don't do that weird shedding thing people do where they tape their entire head up at night, i just eat decently and drink water. You'll be fine kids aging is a privilege.
same experience and agree with all you said except i used moisturizer back then too. None of the million steps. And I do like adding collagen to my smoothies to bump up the protein and my nails have never grown so quickly, even, and strong!
Hey Jen! Love your content and these updates! Dove does magic with it's marketing, but it fails to address the issue of pollution caused by their single use plastic products in developing countries. I'm just mentioning it here so that we can collectively research more about it and choose to do what's right for us. ❤
I have gone to my hair stylist starting from the age of like 7. I am white but I have VERY curly and textured hair. She learned how to do textured hair to the best of her ability by working with my hair. She has done her best but I still need to find a curly hair specialist soon for a curly girl hair cut. I’m so glad kids aren’t going to go through what I did. Hating my hair because I didn’t know how to take care of it. Then being made fun of it. Heck even though I know how to take care of it I STILL get made fun of because of my hair even though I’m 30 years old. And I know how to take care of it know and I love my curls.
I’m just so thankful for the crown act and what it’s doing.
As a 44yo woman, appreciate you and your channel Jen. Thats all lol xoxo
And all of us over here with Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome and our super stretchy skin feel like death on the regular, but have great skin.
I laughed...I'm sorry for your chronic illness, but the morbid humor was great.
6:48 I used to use the Neutrogena clear tan bar religiously as a teenager and young adult. When I got into my 30s up to my early 40s I used the gel cleanser and gel cream. I stopped using them when the price points tripled back in 2019! Gen Z can have it!
I only buy Neutrogena when I can buy it in bulk at Costco and Sam's.
I agree. Our goal should be to live long and prosper (not be anti aging).
In 2009, when I was studying to be an operator for cosmetology in Texas…I was trained & worked on type 3 & 4, A B & C. We had a student with 4C hair that we all worked on 😅
Happy Sunday I hope everybody is having a good weekend. I imagine with the FTC it’s incredibly hard to monitor and control all of the influencers and everyone across the Internet perhaps if they just go after the brands and make them more accountable across-the-board not only including this topic, but a lot of this will stop. Thanks for always being authentic and honest Jen
I'm still a Neutrogena customer. I'm also an older millenial and I've also gotten my kids to start using face wash as well. My oldest is almost 11. Now their face moisturizer is from Duke Canon and has sunscreen in it. I know it doesn't replace full out sunscreen on their faces, but i have a hard time getting them to wear sunscreen
Thank you for always pointing out systemic racism. It's so frustrating when people say it doesn't exist.
Regarding the regulations on skincare for kids, I partially agree and partially disagree.
I agree parents should be guiding their children and observing their interests, behaviors, and concerns.
I agree that accurate scientific information should guide our policies. A good example of bad legislation here in CA is requiring a certain red food dye be eliminated from food even though it's perfectly safe. CA was so proud of this because now it'll force companies to reformulate to sell in the U.S. We have plenty of actual health risks we need legislation for, but thank goodness skittles will have a different red dye that maybe hasn't been used or tested as long. *Slow clap*
Where I disagree is that the companies are not responsible for their marketing. To speak to an issue you raised in this video, preying on people's concerns about ageing, by using ageist tactics to market to young adults, isn't okay. They should be accurate in their marketing. If it's not ok to use these tactics on 25 year olds, I don't think it's ok to use them on teenagers. Even if the parents are managing what their kids are buying, those messages are still seeping in and creating a false "need" for these products in the eyes of the teens.
Therefore, I think it would be reasonable to create regulations about how companies can market to kids. It's similar to regulations we have for marketing flavored vaping products. Even when the companies try to pretend they're not marketing to kids, but we see the negative effects, we do something about it to keep kids safe and, hopefully, get them to a healthier adulthood.
That thumbnail you showed of Hyram’s has a Neutrogena moisturizer directly on it though? So he must have spoken about it in that video?
I work in a grocery store, and i feel like aging has been a blessing. I'm 41, and I've never been hit on like I am now.
As we've seen with Roe v Wade, blanket bans/restrictions on things is a bad idea. When you don't pay attention to science, to nuances and complexity, it backfires and people get hurt.
As a former cosmetology instructor, here in AZ we teach how to do textured hair.
Thanks for calling out the ageism, it’s seems like that’s one of the few (isms) that seems acceptable.
Love Jen❤ I do disagree abt Neutrogena. I saw the ads and thought of them as informative (but not educational). We all know as adults we lose collagen and we chase that firmness infinitely. If I'd been taughy earlier in my 20s I wouldve done more. Just my 22 cents. And by the way, most beauty products kinda over-promise under-deliver
you are right, buy dont you also feel like all the brands nowadays are talking about losing collagen like the end of the world and making a huge deal about it just to make a quick buck? just to say "ugh aging is ewww" or whatever. they could have done ANYTHING to talk about the collagen thing but they chose this route. idk i feel like it's a little misleading honestly. saying that as a huge neutrogena fan myself
As a Puerto Rican woman, I can attest to the fact that we have to find specialized salons for our hair. I have 3b curly hair, which is like in the middle of the hair texture spectrum, and even that most hair stylists can’t handle.
I went to a salon in CA while vacationing and she knew how to handle my hair and when I expressed my surprise she said that when hired they have to take extra training the corporation provides.
It’s nice they’re making this legal requirement. Minority groups end up having to spend extra money because the schools don’t teach textured hair and we can’t just go to our nearest xpress cuts or cheap Walmart salon
Thank you for pointing out that collagen in lotion doesn't increase collagen in your skin. I have a genetic disease that messes with my collagen production and the number of times people have said "just take collagen supplements and use collagen moisturizer" as if that would be the cure is baffling. Putting collagen on your skin doesn't give you back collagen that you've lost and also AGING IS FINE. Try to look like the best version of the age you are ffs.
face wipes as entire evening skincare routine, I relate. not even moisturiser lol.
jen, i have missed your regular uploads SO MUCH ❤ thank you for being back on our screens again 🥰
I’m on the cusp of millenial/gen Z, and i’m 30. I’m still not going to buy Neutrogena, but it’s good to know they’re trying to reach a market above 15 year olds and under 60 year olds!
Jen,
I have been a fan for a while now and I love your channel. Thank you for all your hard and thourough job of keeping us well informed. You are the best! My daughter and i love watching you. ❤
20:50 THE BACKGROUND MUSIC IS KILLING ME!!! LOL 🤣🤣🤣
Been watching your content all morning! Love Mondays! 🥰🥰🥰
I am a 58 and don't look my age and love the Dove bar
This was such a good video thank you so much for it. These are my favorite on UA-cam. Love your top by the way.
In regard to fake reviews, people should NOT be allowed to review a business just to bring down their ratings. A person should be required to provide a valid transaction number to verify that they were an actual customer. So many business have been hurt by fake customers.
Same could be said about fake positive reviews.
Talk about aging, I wouldn't have ever guessed you're 46. Lucky you✨ Another proof of how much genetics play a part. I would say it's 70% genetics and the rest skincare products, sun exposure, diet...
I love the Dove commercial, I also liked it was size inclusive.
I used to use the neutrogena face wipes. I recently discovered the Sephora face wipes and I like those better.
I would love to learn how to work with textured hair. Including braids, extensions, and weaves. I would be obsessed and love to learn how to do all of it!!! I've always loved everything that has to do with hair!!! It's always been a dream of mine!
I’m happy to watch both videos!!
Aw Dove literally had me in tears. What a beautiful commercial. Thank you, Dove.
Jen, your hair has been looking fabulous!
I'm gen z and I've been using Neutrogena since I first got into skincare when I was a teen. I'm 27 now and my all time fave cleanser is that Hydroboost cleanser and it has been for years now! its got the same selling points of CeraVe (fragrance free, gentle but effective, inexpensive) but for me Neutrogena is way less irritating. it's a bummer hearing they're going the ageism route because so many of their products are simple problem solvers that people of all ages can use and enjoy.
Much love to you and your subscribers! ❤ I look forward to Sundays to watch What's Up in Makeup.
“maybe it’s just my age that i enjoy it” - that’s the point! not only is it very important for young people to have these messages instilled in them from a young age, i think it totally makes sense why you love the dove ad considering we’ve all seen how the skincare industry weaponizes aging against consumers and Creates insecurities rather than Helping to destigmatize them. i got the ad recently and loved it myself :)
just don’t want you to feel like your opinion on anti-aging industry is less important Because of your age.. honestly it makes your voice more powerful to younger people ! (im 21 and i love ur perspective!)
Your Jaclyn video was very insightful.
Definitely need everyone to be able to work with textured hair. I'd also love it if they were trained on how to service those with special needs as well. ❤
Thank you for this fabulous Video Jen!
Hi Jen, when I went to cosmetology school in New York, we had to learn how to cut textured hair is a special way of doing it in order to pass our state boards that was back in 1983. They are behind the times. Neutrogena is too expensive. I can buy oil valet. I can buy the other brand and drugstore cheaper than I can buy Neutro. It was a six-year-old on TikTok using retinol before she went to school on her first day of school had her nails done and everything. Where is her mother.
Tons of parents abdicated taking responsibility for making sure their kids were safe long ago. For instance, suing a restaurant because their kid was hurt while they let them run all over the place. Getting up in arms over kids watching inappropriate content because they aren't checking what their kids are watching or setting parental guards. I could go on and on. So thinking Sephora should make sure their kids can't buy anything that could harm them is right in line with all the other neglect parents have exhibited for decades.
Education on textured hair should be mandatory everywhere.
I have only started embracing my natural type 3 hair under 2 years ago. I spent decades punishing my hair with heat tools and chemical straightenings.
And yes, now having a curl specialist cutting my hair does make a huge difference.
I do advocate for daily SPF application, I do love Neutrogena's Hydro Boost and I did not get onto actually worrying about my aging skin until turning 41...
My 42-year old self stands for loving yourself as you are and being the best version of yourself for you!
22:59 It also doesn’t make sense that the plan was for 13 year olds to show id. What ID? If the school doesn’t have a student ID, they have nothing to show besides a birth certificate
Hello Jen! I was just informed that BC consultants were told that they would not be relaunching until 2025.
Maybe my lack of consistency to any particular product will be positive in light of all these cases. 🥴
The Dove ad was so charming ❤
I’ve always loved Dove being a brand that fights the stigma of age and unrealistic beauty standards. It has since I can remember and this ad just makes me happy to see them do it again.
Tying in another subject that’s recurring on Jen Luvs, I was raised by my grandmother and in the last years of her life she lost a lot of her money to an MLM who does weight loss and health products (if you know who they are you can guess right it away it’s a big company) a woman with a wildly successful and accomplished life, a strong feminist active in the ERA campaign and who never took crap from anyone fell victim to an MLM from a combination of their “run your own business” marketing tactics and her own self-consciousness about being overweight. I makes me happy to see Dove out there fighting the stigmas that hurt my family dearly and plague people to this day.
holland is only the left side of the netherlands. the netherlands is the country
The only time I've ever used anything from Neutrogena was when I was a teenager (I'm almost 38 now). I used to use their oil free acne wash. It did work great but once my acne cleared up I never explored anything else from them
As a black woman who attended Jean Madeline I'm glad to hear this ... ofcourse I know how to take care of textured hair .. but my classmates should've learned as well 🤷🏾♀️
Watched the Jaclyn video before this one today + who can blame me?
Me too. 😂
A lot of privately held companies are structured like Avon. Especially retailers or CPG
I only love one Neutrogena product - Hydroboost Dry as it's fragrance free and I love dimethicone to seal in my evening routine . They have too many products and they need to change their marketing . People don't know about the reformulated products and the other added extras.
Yes! I’ve reached a goal! Old and wrinkled. Serious question though, what age do you consider old? Not asking for a friend. I’ve never felt old. I’ve never looked my age, BUT it is starting to creep in and it feels weird.
I also used to use Neutrogena wipes. Then I found baby wipes. They do the same thing and I get 4 - 6 times more for a lot less.
I love the Dove ad! Aging is a privilege. Not everyone gets to be old. Cherish every single wrinkle
Dove intense moisturising products products from face creams to body wash are lovely. However, if you don’t like heavy scents, their products may not be for you.
Aging is a privilege not everyone is afforded.
Edit: I have severe skin allergies and have been using Dove bar for decades.
I find it interesting that brands are marketed quite differently in different markets. In New Zealand and Australia, Neutrogena is at the chemist warehouse (discount chemist) and it's targeted towards people with eczema and similar conditions.
You are such a wonderful person❤ From a Long time subscriber💐
I agree with Sarah Millican's take on aging: "fuck you, aging is a privilege, and not everyone gets the chance." The way I see it, there is only one alternative to aging, and that is premature death. Take care of your body and your skin and hope that one day you get to look back on many decades of life, having become an old prune. Not everyone makes it that far.
Hi Jen! I recently found your channel and I love it.
The Hyram thumbnail you chose has a Neutrogena product featured on the left side (and is in that video). So while Gen Z skinfluencers are probably talking about The Ordinary and CeraVe more, they are talking about Neutrogena… just not as much.
Again I love your channel, and this is not a criticism, just the way I see things.
I went to cosmetology school for about 3 months, about 12 years ago and I don’t remember learning anything about textured hair. In the state I live in, we had to have more hours than even California. So one would think some of those hours could have been devoted to learning about textured hair. I dropped out when my job needed me full time and I realized I didn’t like touching other people lol. Should a thought of that before I enrolled. Glad they are financially teaching how to work with ALL kinds of hair. Long overdue. Also, I remember that Johnson & Johnson did something shady and split up their company when the lawsuits started happening so maybe Avon is doing something similar. Idk.
As a gen X I wanted to love Neutrogena back in the day. It actually irritated my sensitive skin and I never tried it again. It was so expensive that I wouldn't risk it.