Wahoo ELEMNT Updates: Music Control // ANT+ Light Support // GoPro Control
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- Опубліковано 28 чер 2024
- A number of long awaited and much requested updates land today on the Wahoo ELEMNT cycling computers. Music/Media Control, ANT+ Light Support, GoPro Control (soon!), and a number of additional workout sync sources from various workout apps.
Update: And I've been informed it's only the BOLT V2 and ROAM V2 getting these features. Fingers crossed they roll out media control to the previous units (as I can confirm it does work on them.... 🤷🏻♂️)
Links:
Wahoo Official: bit.ly/2LtFLfl
Wahoo ELEMNT BOLT 2: bit.ly/3yYUjrl
Wahoo ELEMNT ROAM V2 (Amazon US): amzn.to/3MpFpTI
Wahoo 1/4 Turn Adapter: bit.ly/2V7rzgg
Garmin Varia Radar Light RTL515 (Amazon US): amzn.to/3gj7tXl
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Video Index:
0:00 Intro
0:40 Music / Media Control
1:59 ANT+ Light Control
7:17 GoPro Remote Control
10:51 More Workout Sync Sources
11:34 Wrap-Up
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Apparently ALL of these updates are limited to V2 ELEMNT computers only. Sigh. I can report a lot of this does work on older units... but likely due to my account being in some kind of Stranger Things state with a beta enabled account.
Media control is working pretty well here on both revisions of the ROAM V1. If this is an Android only thing, roll with it. Nobody uses Android. ;)
@@gplama Nobody needs media control while riding. But give us garmin varia light control on roam v1, please!!!
@@andrewemrick-32196Music control is an insane update! No more taking off my winter gloves to fiddle with my phone when I want to change a song. 🤟
They giveth and they taketh away. Having replaced my Elemnt with a Roam about a week before the Roam v2 was announced, I'm a while away from a guilt-free upgrade.
@@mcmacpl @gplama Feeling like nobody right now because I'm both on Android and need music controls while riding 😂 I'm also using good, old Bolt v1.
Music + GoPro control = gamechangers.
YUP! No more fussing around in jersey pockets to get the phone to control things!
Yes! I've made an IOS app that allows to control the camera through the music playback.
GoPro control has not been rolled out!
I’ve only been waiting on the ANT+ lights control for like five years…
Good things comes to those who wait
Excellent work Wahoo. I went from my bolt 2 to edge 830 just for that radar light control and have been missing my bolt ever since, i can go back to bolt now so happy days for me. Love to see this kind of software work. Thank Lama for continues updates news.
I hope Garmin is listening/watching! We need music control on our cycling head units, and do push them all to your Bluetooth enabled units beginning with the 510/810 and up...
@martinkroutil Happy days for you now
That's a pretty cool update, even the Beta one. I would love it if they would expand the camera connectivity to DJI and Insta360.
This is the best update in a long time. Thank you Wahoo! And thanks to you GPLama for the fantastic (as always) review.
All right, so for everyone who can't get the light support working, do the following:
You have to repair the radar in PAIRING MODE (hold the power button for 2 sec from turned off, purple flashes) and pair it then.
For some reason, you could also pair it when not in this mode. Maybe then it's just a radar, not a light. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Works with Bolt v2 and Varia RTL510.
legend, thank you !
Thanks!
Thank you. It did not work for me although I was pretty sure that it had been initially paired in pairing mode. I paired it again and it is working now.
I just accidentally stumbled upon the music control feature and absolutely love it! Can’t wait to try out the light control tomorrow! Thank you for sharing!
Be awesome if they can do something when the radar goes off that it records on the GoPro. Like the big Garmin radar does.
I was on my ride and was wondering about the music for my Bolt V2, so happy for that thank for the info 👍🏾
I love these videos. Just saw the update and my first thought „I bet Lama already has a video on it, so I know what this update is all about!“
That's exactly what I thought.
Your video about this more helpful and specific then DC rainmakers today. Been waiting for this since they announced the radar support a few years ago.
Noooo, not seeing the update on v1 bolt. Wahoo pls give us v1 users music control at least!
Or it could finally be time for a new device. As a developer myself, I'd hate to support almost 8 year old hardware.
Music control. YES! Love this!
Great run down. Thank you!
Absolute GAMECHANGER 🎉
Actual good updates. The music and go pro are so useful. Look forward to the updates
Di2 hood buttons to skip tracks would be a nice touch!
The music control is a fantastic improvement!!
Light control!!! Eagerly waiting for the update.
Gooooood lord, music and GoPro control? I absolutely cannot wait!
GoPro control has not been rolled out!
I've been dreaming about music control since day i've bought one.
Also not so much time ago i found out about ant+ lights.
These are two great new features.
I have the Roam V1…these updates made me do the upgrade. The GoPro capabilities sold me.
What a damn great update 😍 I would like to try it out immediately
Shane, Really dig your taste in music. Wolf Alice is one of my favorite bands. We saw them in a small club in Berkeley California pre-Covid. They really know how to rock!
Thank you. Very informative.
Thanks Lama!!! YOu’re the best!
For the app and the unit to register the new things, have the radar on, play some music and fiddle with radar & light related settings in the app.
I didn't have a media page until I started playing music. And I could not control the light on my Garmin 515 unit until I toggled that auto bike lights in the app.
Its a bit fiddly but in the end - it worked so have some patience and perhaps a bit of luck.
I can switch on the radar at the start of the journey and switch it off at the end, but I cannot ride with the radar without light mode.
I would like to use the radar without light on the Varia but see the bars with the messages on the Wahoo display.
Thanks for the hint to get the media page. Could be simpler.
Support for ant+ lights was something I was waiting for since I bought varia. Now I’m waiting for automated switch between day and night modes basing on built in ambient light sensor.
But still I’m very happy, finally I don’t have to count clicks on varia’s switch.
So glad Wahoo are making this better. I love Wahoo products, and they dont yet have their own Radar solution. I've been using Garmins with it for a few years now and its just brilliant.
I'm wondering now if the corresponding FIT files produced by wahoo after each ride, might now include new FIT data as a result? This would be very cool if so!
I think the music control I’m most excited about.
Is it not dangerous riding with music ?
@@DeLFeTube good question. I think once you memorize your menus it is really just a quick glance down at the headset. But to your point I use the shokz open pro and you can hear around you. I only listen on greenways. On the road, no music. Ride on!
JFC have I been waiting forever for the Auto light function! This has bugged me for years since I don't need the radar blinking constantly if there's noone behind me. It should help with the battery life as well. I'm so excited right now I could go out riding the entire day!
Well chuffed about the upcoming gopro remote. Looks well thought out here. And thumbs up to Wolf Alice. Saw them live once
I found them on some random late night music festival replay on TV here. Watched them play Smile and have had them on my playlists ever since. Their live shows are on repeat while on the indoor trainer too.
Fabulous features and all free too. Time for a bike ride I feel.
To be honest they should have been included from the start, but I'm not complaining.
OMG best update ever
thanks for sharing, I wonder if v1 will get those new features eventually
What a great update. For me the only thing is that I would love to set separate day and night lighting behaviors. Otherwise I'm very happy with the new light features.
Big features 😳 Music control was one major reason for me to move to 540. Now I'm jealous of GoPro remote control 😬😅
GoPro control has not been rolled out!
Looks a bit slicker than Garmin really well done to Wahoo. Nice video as well. Wish Garmin would release a new headlight as my battery is getting on a bit. In addition, revive their Virb range.
Finally! This was a long overdue update and got even more functionality than expected. Radar and light control works perfectly, i expect quite a big battery benefit with light off, radar on and only blinking when a car is in sight. Exactly what i want for ultra road races and bikepacking. Music control with Iphone12 and Spotify works too on my Elmnt Roam V2. Will try the Bolt V1 of my GF.
Does Auto On work for the radar? Android or Apple?
Unfortunately these features will only roll to V2 Elemnt units. My older GPS devices had the media control enabled as part of a beta/test. I was informed of this after publishing the video. Maybe it's something they can update the V1 units with in the future with enough encouragement.
The radar without light doesn't work at all! I can only switch it on at the start and off at the end. One mode remains on while driving!
Explain how else it should work. Without light, no radar bars appear on the Wahoo!
works for me just fine, but you need to switch to the light off mode on the headunit, not on the radar by button.@@chrisr.2371
Still no option to switch out the dedicated "Lap" button though? I have never used that my entire life, i would much rather be able to change that to a "Page back" button so i don't have to cycle through 8 pages to get back to page 1 from page 2, maybe i am just stupid and have missed the "page back" feature? :D
woah, another update?
well, as someone who listens to podcasts or music during longer rides where there is no soothing nature ambience, media control is a great addition.
as for workouts, i found a workaround to store workouts on the unit, not sure if i need this, but for some its great I'm sure.
wow, that Varia light control is better than Garmin’s implementation! I ride with the light off/radar on a lot on trails, and it was the main reason I chose Garmin over Wahoo. However, this new feature that only turns on the light when an object is detected is perfect. I would love to see Garmin add this feature
This can be done on an EDGE unit using the ConnectIQ addon called Smart Bike Lights (I believe.... it could be called something else...)
Great news. Good job on that, Wahoo team. Gave up on waiting for lights controls, nice surprise. I’d be great to have Apple Watch integration for HR / music / messages and calls not to carry a phone and an HR strap.
Don't know if you reviewed this in a prior video but my Wahoo Bolt V2 now has the ability to turn off my Garmin Varia RTL515 light from the devices settings on the unit. The radar is still in effect but you can control the light mode you desire as well as turn it off completely until a detected object is near. You can then select how long you want the light to remain on after a detection. Nice feature if battery life is a priority.
Very cool, I’d love radar/light control on my bolt v1. On the other hand, it’s probably time to upgrade 😅😅
There’s no technological reason why it couldn’t work there…
Scumbag tactics to get people to upgrade.
The Light Support for the radar I will be using the most. Sometimes I wasn't sure if my radar is on night mode or day flashing mode.
What am I missing? The radar part doesn't turn off when you end your ride, so you still have to mess with the buttons on the Varia unit at the start and stop of each ride, unless you want your battery to drain. What is the point?
Some excellent functionality there putting Wahoo ahead imo. And another pro vid from Llama on it all.
Much appreciated! UA-cam tells me you've been subscribed for seven years. Thank you 🙏
@@gplama and still the best and trusted reviews/information on cycling gear
Thanks, Shane. Super useful. I don't seem to be able to control the Garmin Variables RC715 light using the roam v2 unit. Do you have to pair the garmin to the element twice -- once as a radar and once as a light? It only shows asa radar on my device. I'm missing something here. thx
Interesting changes. And here I am with my Varia no longer connecting to my Bolt v2 which it did just fine before winter. 🤔
Nero boys are gonna be happy about the GoPro remote thingy 😂
Would love to see wahoo update there app to include more statistic about past rides.
Right now you can only see per week and total distance. What about per year distance etc.
This is huge. I’ve been asking for Spotify integration for years
Works perfect with my Bontrager RT lights. Does auto turn on also work with Varia 315 radar when pressing the start button to start a ride?
The 8 Hours and 51 Minutes on the GoPro screen is the space available on the SD-card in the camera 😊
More reasons to upgrade by Roam v1 to a v2 I think!
Not sure why others aren’t having the same results but music control works on my Bolt V1.
Nice
Oooofff every time I see a new update from Wahoo I am hoping it's new devices😩😩😩. This is a big update but it comes a few years after garmin...
OH MY GOD!!!! Varia radar control and running the radar while light off is all I ever wanted! Thank you so much GPLama for the demonstration!! Quick question though: Does the radar also operate while light turned off and without flashing when a car approaches? So basically without any lighting whatsoever only showing approaching vehicles on the wahoo display?
Also interested in the answer to this question
@@VolodyaSenkiv I've tested in myself in the meantime and it does work. One simply has to set the "auto light" to "off" if you want radar but without any reaction of the light.
that doesn't work at all! I can't use the radar with the Wahoo WITHOUT light. A light mode must always be on.
The Auto light on " Disable" causes the continuous light. This is also in the description
The lights control (on at the beginning of the ride and off at the end) works but the radar does not work like with Garmin while riding without lights.
HUGE!!! I wonder, what affect these features will have on battery life? I hope the next version of Wahoo computers have solar charging capabilities.
This unit is better than the garmin when using the garmin light/radar
Hey Lama,
do you have some experience already if we can have Di2 Gear Selection in the training data at some point?
Markus - from Germany
The Elemnt Roam v1 does also have the Color screen as in your video?
Hi Shane. It works well for the rtl 515, but not with the rtc715. If you turn off lights the radar goes off too. Did you try it with the rct 715? I m i doing someting whrong?
Thanks for your videos.
Normally wait a while when an update comes out to make sure its not buggy, but I've definitely not waited this time.
Just updated both the app and the Wahoo (Roam 2) but not seeing the music page or settings yet.
And now its there! Brilliant stuff.
It shows when you start playing some music on your phone as the last page. Theres no need to configure something.
@@dakalla thanks, yeah I eventually figured that out by accident.
Can’t believe Wahoo only just introduced the ANT+ light control.
Insert the *It's been 84 years....* meme. 🚢
@@gplama”one eternity later…”
V1 should be supported with music control at least. Hope Wahoo do it
FasCat now pushes workouts to Bolt2
Sadly with the rtl 516 version, it is still not possible to turn of the light and keep the radar working, the options on the element device just don't do anything when pressed
The same applies to the RTL515 😒😒
Now, after the current Vario update, no light mode switching works on the Wahoo Bolt version 2😟😟
now, if only Garmin would get onboard with GoPro control.....
No music control on my Bolt V2. I've got my See.Sense Ace light working with it. So the app and device firmware are up to date, and the light part has worked nicely, but I'm not seeing the option to enable the music control in the Pages menu on the app. That's with the latest Android app version and device firmware.
Thanks for bringing this to our attention Shane. I updated my devices (RTL515 and Bolt 2) hoping to try the ant+ light feature. I found I still am not able to change the light settings from the Bolt 2. I see the field in the computer, but when I press to change the light mode for the radar, nothing changed. Have you heard anything that might cause this issue?
You’ll need to re-pair the 515 when it’s in pairing mode. 2-3 second press when powering it on.
@@gplama yea I tried that. But might not have done it properly. I’ll try it again
Let's goooooo wahoo.
What would you advise to someone new the garmin 1040 or the wahoo element roam v2? Im fairly new to the gps computers but want something to get allong for a long time
I have a Bolt V2, paired with RCT715. The light controls doesn't seem to work on the V2. I'm not able to toggle the light variations on the 715. Similarly, I tried it on my magene L508. I faced the same issue as the 715. Am i missing a step here in the set up?
Hmmm... I only have the Varia Radar, so no menu item in the app to turn on/off at the start of the ride. However, if the Bike Lights selection on the Roam V2 is set to OFF the radar will initiate the last radar configuration and turn on the light at the start of a ride.. A problem.....when the ride is stopped it does turn off the light but the radar unit still on. It looks like it turned the radar off but it didn't, it just turned off the light. This could result in the worst scenario: the battery is depleted when you think the unit is off.
I would prefer that a "turn radar off/on" message is sent if there is such a message available.
Wait wait wait, how did you manage to connect the bontrager lights? or is this working with roam v2 only?
They’re ANT+ Lights, so they pair as sensors with the new firmware on the ROAM v2 and BOLT v2.
I regret everyday switching from Roam 2 to 840…
Light control doesn’t seem to work with Garmin RTL510
Doesn't work for me either
I had to re-pair the radar, removing it from the roam, turning off the radar and then pressing the button for 2 seconds so that the radar goes in pairing mode. now all features work!
Thank you, you were spot on. All features working now
I had the same with varia RTL515. Rebooted the radar with 8 second hold power button a couple of times and it resolved the issue
This is great and all but howabout getting the basics right, like updating OSM-sourced maps more than twice in the entire units lifetimes, or having hours to sunrise/sunset/daylight left on your Roam model.
HELLO, what is the brand of these smart lights
So at 2:58 you are able to switch all the lights on when you start the ride but surely you’re pressing the power button anyway to switch them on to get them to pair to the unit?
Auto Control Bike Lights toggle didn’t appear in app (IOS). All other functionality works (Bolt V2).
Any plans for any of this love coming to Roam v1? 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢
Doesnt seem to work with the older model Varia 510...?
@gplama how did you get your V1 older units to update? Wahoo said it’s only V2..??
Hopefully @Garmin is paying attention and implements music control on x30 edges, it's embarrassing not to have that simple feature
Love the video as always but so disappointed that I had my hopes up and was misled. I have the Roam v1 and although the video says that the media control works for all Elemnts it doesn't seem to be accurate. Does not include v1. I'll get over it but it should be clarified. Thanks again for your great videos!
Unfortunately Wahoo rolled out that support to the older units I had in testing and only clarified media control would NOT be part of the public release on these after this video was published.
Using a v2 bolt with both my app and unit updated and i dont have the option on my app for the music control?
Do you think there will be a bolt V3 or roam V3 coming out ?
Can the garmin do that radar feature with light off before car approaches?
and is there any indication that a gopro feature might come to garmin?
There's a ConnectIQ addon that'll do similar on an Edge unit. It was a lot of hackery when I looked into it a few years ago. Apparently it's much better now. Garmin always keep their cards close when it comes to features. I'm always keeping an eye on their betas.
Lama, do you listen to music while riding? If so what ear buds do you use? Thanks.
Mostly podcasts. Either wired Apple EarPods or Shokz.
Uh oh, finally a reason to upgrade to a v2!!!! Also, does any of this make it across to the Rival…?
You’ll have to check the Rival firmware changelog.
RIVAL already has music control. Currently it does not support light control or GoPro control.
I was really hoping you’d say there was integration with Xert in the 3rd party apps 😩….hopefully one day in the future that will happen.
I want profiles, profiles, profiles! Or at least multiple map pages. My adventure map is different from my workout map, and I need to change the fields every ride. It’s stupid.
Would be useful if the GoPro could be activated based on the radar sensing.
Great idea! I will bring this back to the team.
Will there ever be support for a proper brake light function, meaning the rear light brightness increases when you start squeezing the brake lever, just like in cars? I know Wahoo themselves cannot do it without Shimano/Sram/... adding this to brake levers, but I'd love to have such a feature, eventually. (I know there are "solutions" based on detecting deceleration, but in my experience, they never work properly.)
Wouldn't be too hard to do i think. Electronic shifters are already fully wireless and can communicate with bike computers. So Shimano or Sram would just need to add a switch or a pressure sensor and the ability to connect a rear light. Give it one more generation, probably it will be first seen on shimano steps or so.
@@dakalla Yeah, that was my thinking too. Although I am not sure if I'd prefer the indirect connection through the bike computer - no particular reason, just to keep everything centralised. There is a question of shifters battery life impact with this, though (I'm a roadie with 105di2, which hasn't shifters hooked into the main di2 battery, hence my (slight) concern).
sad we didnt get it on the bolt 1, i havent upgraded cause i was the few who bought the bolt just couple months before the bolt 2 was released
I appreciate all this features, seriously that's sounds great and I like my wahoo computer but I've got a simple problem and wahoo cannot find any solution...
Let me explain, I pair my tickr and I put it on me, the bpm are correctly on the screen.
I turn off the computer and I take it the next day for a ride, I put my tickr on me and turn on my computer : no bpm... The lights on the tickr flashing but nothing on the computer.
On the menu, tickr appear with a green dot but no bpm on my riding screen.
I forget and pair it again, and it works.... It's annoying.
I will appreciate any help because I feel desperate.
Thank you Shane and the community.
Been using a Wahoo Elemn Bolt simce 2020, it is fine and reliable but the Garmin 500 was so much better