7 Things To Know Before Buying A C7/C7.5 Audi S6
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My 2016 Audi S6
Glacier White Metallic
Black Optics
Arras Red Design Interior
Red brakes courtesy of Mike’s Autobody of Malden
MOD LIST
ECU/TCU Tune from Integrated Engineering
Summer Wheels:
- BC Forged HCS21, staggered concave profiles
- Fronts - 20x10, et32 (after 3mm spacer)
- Rears - 20x10, et33 (after 5mm spacer)
- Tires - Michelin PS4S - 255/35 20
Track setup:
- TSW Neptune
- Fronts: 20x9, et35, 275/35 NT555Rii
- Rears: 18x9.5, et39, 275/45 M/T ET Street S/S
Winter Wheels:
- OEM RS5 Wheels - 20x9 et26
- Tires - Vredstein Wintrac Pro - 255/35 R20
CETE Active Air Suspension Control Module
AWE Touring Exhaust
JXB Driveshaft Carrier - Авто та транспорт
S7 owner here. Be advised that the S6/S7 turbos are cast vs RS7/S8 turbos being billet aluminum. At some point they will fail, but you took care of the main issue with it. I'd recommend doing oil changes every 5k. Even at Audi, the price for an oil change is reasonable. While changing the turbos is more involved, you can get RS7 turbos (cartridge assembly) for a very reasonable price.
Can you tell me more about that turbo-problems? I'm looking forward to get an S7 w/ roundabout 100k-130k kilometers and that is something that really worries me. Changing the turbos aint that cheap, some1 told me :D so I would like to avoid that. can I tweak that somehow?
@@falkhogan did you end up getting it?
@@jafaralmusawi8680 no I actually bought me a Mustang GT from 2016. I tested a S7 and with the aisuspension the car felt just like the boat it is. Didn't like it that much (had a tuned TTS before) and therefore I liked the Mustang more. Still, S7 is a nice car but it's not the right car for me personally. Opinions might differ.
Do you need to have a stage 3 tune to have to upgrade the turbos ? Or u can just upgrade anytime
@@falkhogan Late in response but there's an extended warranty on the turbos now. Congrats on your Mustang. Yes the S7 is a bit boaty, I think the S5/RS5 Sportback would be a lot more appropriate as those cars have a lot stiffer suspension and are way more nimble on the road. I know a sway bar swap improves the handling on these cars.
Great summary/video! Just bought a C7.5 and love it.
With the Comfort Seats, you definitely want them if you're a big guy. I'm 6'3 240lbs & the regular seats are not long enough for me, so I have to go with Comfort Seats to be able to drive for long distances, which I do frequently.
Also, if you care about music at all, B&O is absolutely worth being patient for. Regular Bose & Bose Surround just don't cut it.
You make some of the most informative videos I have seen on Ytube. Appreciate the time and editing and we are all lucky to be subs of your page. Cheers from a fellow S6 7.5 owner 👍🏼
Thanks Mark!!
I have a 2018 S6 and learned more about it from your video than the last 5 months I had it. Awesome video!
Thanks Dwayne!!
Nice Review!
Soft close doors was also an option on these cars
Good video, learned some stuff about my 2017 (c7.5) s6 prestige that I didn't know. I've followed ignition tube for years, got my 2014 b8.5 s4 a little over 3 years ago mainly because of this channel, even got the IE intake lol, that was fun but a little over 2 years ago had to upgrade to this prestige s6, then saw this channel did also. Love it! comfort seating, sport pkg, driver assist pkg, bang n olufsen, and best part is whoever built it kept flat bottom steering wheel. Great daily driver. APR stage 1 tuned no other mods and was running mid to upper 11's in the 1/4 last season. Great car!
This is so informative thank you so much 💯
Don't forget the two stereo upgrade options: The Bose system (14 speakers/630-watts, but "all highs, no lows, must be Bose") and the Bang & Olufsen system (15-speakers/1,330 watts, but incredibly rare because most S6 owners didn't want to pay the $5,000+ upcharge, apparently). If the tweeters rise up out of the corners of the dash, the car has the B&O system, although the door speaker grills are clearly labeled as well. I couldn't find a Prestige model that had the B&O system, and the Black Optic and Sport Packages were more important to me.
Theres a 2017 Prestige S6 on Carvana right now pending sale of course, that has B&O. Mine has Bose and I'm more than happy with the sound. Plus that an easy after market upgrade if you want better sound.
Dont forget the akrapovik exhaust! Even more rare because it was like a 10k option but there are cars with factory titanium exhaust
I didn’t either on my S7 until I had a loaner with B&O. I thought there was an issue with my audio system. The difference is night and day.
I have the Bose and I've been in a car with the Bang system. I like the Bose better. The Bang has a "tinny" sound, lots of base, lots of high but a lacking mid range. The Bang is not worth $5,500 the upgrade when I bought mine.
@@datsuntoyy I have to agree with you on the Bose system. The Bose sound awesome imo. The B&O in my 2019 Q8 was meh. I ended up adding a 10" subwoofer and the difference was night and day.
In 2013 door armrests were not padded, they added that in 2014 and up. Don't ask me how I know but now that's something that I would consider an easter egg lol
Thanks for the tips! I have an S6 (C7) & it's a great car.
New subscriber here! Great videos man, I've wanted a C7-era S6/S7 for a while now, so this content as great for me! The RS4 sure does make for some sweet content, too :)
Agreed. I love my c7 headlights!
I don’t have an Audi or intend to get one anytime soon, but man your videos are awesome. Great info and straight to the point.
Great video bro! keep up the good work!
Love the video. Thanks for sharing. I could be wrong, but I think some of the 2015's had the face-lift. I think they may have updated mid-year.
Really a great video!!!!
For opening the trunk you need to kick in forward and backward motion, not the sideways like you did on the video
I own a C7. The glove box is also refrigerated. It also has the grocery hooks in the trunk. You have to do a quick action kick to open the trunk. Get the Roc Euro intake paired w an AWE Touring exhaust. The intake makes awesome blow off noises.
My '13 S6 prestige just rolled 119K. Air suspention collapsed two weeks ago so it's in the shop for likely new struts. That's aparently common and although I don't have the dealer estimate left it may run around $6k. PCV went out at 45k, replaced under waranty but it would have been $3,500. I think they did the Turbo TSB as they usually did TSB's where I took it. Turbos are still original.
All front bushings (arms) were replaced at 85k. Many bushings were gone. Steering is getting loose again before the front suspention collapse. Motor mounts replaced at about 90K.
DSG is getting a bit sluggish, it's showing it's age. I hope it's not going out.
APR stage 1, APR DSG tune, suspention inserts, ceramic paint coat. I've had 5 Stoplight drags, 2 were P85D's and we were dead even at 80mph. 1 was a model 3 performance (gapped it easily). The other two wern't even a challenge.
As for the Trunk thing, I never knew that. I'll have to check it when I get out of the shop. Also, if you hold the "Lock" on the fob, all windows close. If you hold "unlock" it opens all windows and I think the sun roof as well. The European model is supposed to have a fully automated trunk as some have swapped it out on their American versions. There is also a small compartment on the front of the seats with the crosshatch. When the Seat heater is on high, it changes to medium in 10 minutes. The time can be changed via Vagcom as can the temperature of the heated steering wheel. Only thing I've changed on Vagcom is the "track mode" and added economy mode in drive select.
The biggest issue is trying to keep other people from parking 6" away and door dings. GRRRRRR!!!!!
Love your wheels. HRE S101's? My dream wheels.
What happened after 80 mph
@@synex5358 I backed off. I may be a sporty driver but I don't want a ticket. I haven't had one since 93.
Thanks for the info. Going to get into the C7.5 S6 from my B8.5 S4. Sounds like a fair representation of a ownership through out. I have one question about the DSG, you said that it is sluggish. How many times have you had the DSG serviced if at all? This is due every 40k but many advocate a shortened 35k interval, and when this process is done, the clutch "kiss" points are adjusted which can help with sluggish engagement. Just a thought! Thanks for the S6 insight though. I don't think it's enough to scare me off ownership.
@@thomasburns3345 I shoot for 30-35k miles for service. I think it's actually due now. The last one I also had the rear and center differential fluids changed also although I don't think it's required. My shop says to do the front diff is a bigger job and needs a special tool. He didn't want to pay for one since they are almost never serviced and there's not alot of these cars.
I belive in over servicing rather than underservicing. Cheap insurance.
That suspension shouldn't run that much, and the pcv is pretty easy to replace on your own.
Thanks for the video. I love that S6 Sport seat stitching....but yeah, must be a trade off. I am looking at getting my first Audi and want a good balance between being a dad but still having some grunt and have been looking at whether the S4 or S6 is the better option. Thoughts? I know the S6 is slightly more expensive but I might be willing to keep an eye out for a nice used one with decent mileage.
What did you end up with? I'm researching S6 and M550s right now as I'm in same boat.
Same lookin at these and a 440i grand coupe
@@terranceparson7539 the 440 would be a fair amount smaller. 3/4 series are a4/s4 sized while the 5 series is akin to the a6/s6
TIP: go get your 21H7 oil strainer recall taken care of they addressed the failure and warranty turbos if need replacing.
i know it wasnt a review but i really like your presentation of the features and you were honest about stuff your car didnt had(for example the seats), very good video. im into swapping my bmw F30 for a A6 but ive looked at everthing from the A6 allroad, 3.0 tdi to the s6(a bit scary about that though, but it shouldnt be any more of a problem than the others, except the cost, insurance etc) all Avants though. a question to all audi owners. i know some european avants/estates has the option to put a seat in the trunk to make it a 7 seater. is it possible with the avant?
We don’t have the C7 Avant in the US so I’m not sure!
C7 turbos now provide extended warranty! 10 years/100k miles. Too many people had the turbos fail. Mine failed twice! Yes. Twice (2015 model under 40k miles).
Nice video and simple walkthrough of features and reliability :)
However please note that the C7 does NOT have Matrix LED, this is a common mistake because of the way the headlight is made up of several smaller LED sections (Does look cool though!)
MatrixLED were first introduced to A6/A7 with the facelifted C7.5 model.
The image shown at 3:28 is just a regular FullLED headlight for C7 A6/A7 with either high or low beam, not matrix :)
Informative as always!
As a 2016 a6 prestige owner I can’t say a bad word about the car but I’m finally making the jump to a 2021 S6 prestige is their anything I should keep in mind before purchasing?
hey great video by the way very informative a lot of people talk too much about nonsense like everything's to the point I'm new to BMW right now but I'm not loving this car and I'm looking in the Audi direction is there anyway maybe you could shoot me a message I just have some basic questions I truly want something special not the everyday car that everybody's driving so the s line absolutely is where I'm headed whether it be a four five or six thank you
My cousin has a prestige Passat at and it has a similar feature for kick open trunk. Based on the test you don't need to sweep the feet but put the foot under the center of the diffuser then put it back and the trunk will open.
To get the trunk to open you have you kick straight in then out. No swinging around
Do the air ride c7 s6 and s7 exit in america only or are they like that in sweden/EU also?
Nice car
Thansk for this video!
Hey man, I know this is two years old but I'm hoping you see this. I bought a 2013 about five months ago and am having very intermittent dash lights coming on. When the lights come on, the ALL come on. My cluster looks like a Christmas tree. It occurs with no real pattern that I can think of. All of this being said, should I just replace the ECU or should I take it to my local Audi dealership in hopes that the ECU has recorded the faults and go from there? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
What wheels are those they look great
you forgot alcantara headliner as an option ; )
Should make a S6 / S7 / S8 comparison video 🤔
I’m in CT I bought a A6 2.0. May trade in to get a A6 3.0. S6 is very expensive uuggg.
I got a c7 a6 cause I couldn't afford the extra price of an s6 lol the price difference between a s6 and a6 even used is pretty big.
What would advise as a better route to go as a young enthusiast looking into the C7 market I’d love an S6 currently looking getting an A6 but I’m wondering is there much difference and which car would has more longevity?
S6 is a very mature car, go for the S/C S4.
Good information, what do you think would be a good price range for the C7.5 I see that it can be all over the place.
Love my S6!! Has the B&O sound system which is amazing other than the low end. Do all c7/.5 have the trunk kick feature? I've tried it on mine and nothing.
Damn good video
Coming from a Audi owner! Please please make sure you check with the transmission services, and who owned it before. Eli would know about my s4🤣 besides that soild solid German constructed vehicle! No other issues that are big enough you can’t afford if you got the budget for a German car in the first place.
Should i change my bmw x5 m50d to audi s6 2018
Hey, What wheels are those???
Recall audi. Under the turbo is ring with sieve... Sometimes get full and turbo dont get oil... Under recall it will repair for free
Awesome overview! I would love to find a CPO C7.5 s6 or S7…crazy to admit the new faster S5 and S6 v-6 are just not what l want to hear from any seat or outside the car. Audi please offer more color interior options than Red, and dark gray/black
For the trunk kick sensor the trick is to do a quick one second straight kick. No side to side just a quick quick and it’ll open and work Everytime
So is the S4 the way to go ?
Once you go ventilated seat you never want to go back! Coming from a CTS-V that had them to an RS7 that doesn't in their "sport" seat was a real disappointment. But these are serious first-world problems, lol.
Great video! What brand and size/specs of wheels do you have? Those would look amazing on my 2018 Daytona Gray c7.5 S6! Thanks in advance!
All in the description!!
What year is this one?
My trunk doesnt do that. But it also has motorized close
The Night vision camera is behind the most right ring of the frontlogo. I have an A6 Prestige with all mentioned options (and many more), except the sunshield in the back (no need because the back has no-see-tru tinted glass around) and no air ride.
Audi did come out with a fix for the turbo oil screen under a factory recall.
Safety Recall Code: 21H7
So should i buy one ?
2013
155.000km
21.000€
Comfort seats have electronicly adjustable bolstering for both bottom and top of seat
I’ll take the old man seats 😂
Prestige vs Premium?
Best option was the B&O Stereo upgrade.
Also, not all "comfort" seats have cooling and massage function.
Are you sure? I’m thought it was standard with comfort?
All comfort seats have heated, cooled and massage functions
Mine don’t, heated only, maybe its just an NA thing ?
@@timothyfindlay6253 is it an A car or an S car?
Great video again... you missed 1 main thing, c7 is 420hp and c7.5 is 450hp. Not alot of horsepower difference
I think they’re the same horsepower, just advertised different. People dyno C7 all the time and get 450-455
@@BensCanyonAT4 from want I've seen and read, there is difference
@@ferdi.b93 do you have anything that shows this other than Audis advertisements? From what I’ve read and experienced with my own S6, they’re exactly the same.
@@BensCanyonAT4 I've never owned s6 but seeing friends c7 s6 and then looking at other c7.5 s6. I'm just saying what I know.
Yeah they are the same, just Audi advertised the hp differently. I do think Audi tweaked the DCT in the c7.5 though, just not publicized
A6 don’t have airride in the US.
"Not like an s4, not as built proof."
Yeah, like the s4 is built proof lol. Nice video though. Just starting to look into these cars.
Great video. What button do you press to raise the rear sun shades?
There’s a button next to the park distance control!
I have a IE dual pulley B8 s4 6mt and I love it. Never had a car handle power so well and put it down so majestically and affordable. But I’m really leaning toward an S7, the biggest thing holding me back is leaving my manual, I’m afraid I just won’t get that spirited feel and have that connection with the car. I would like to hear your thoughts Eli and anyone else who has owned or driven a manual B8/8.5 s4 and got a c7/7.5 s6 or s7.
I feel this
I hate autos of the 25ish cars I have owned this is my 5th auto of some sort it is fairly engaging when I want it to be 98 percent of the time. I am running a Ecu and Tcu tune from IE. Biggest complaints are if first spins at all it will short shift the 1 2 shift also the upshift paddle can be finicky on where it is pressed. I do not use the lever because audi vw is backwards everything I have driven with a sequential trans from a shifter kart to a indy lights car to my last bmw upshift is pull back downshift is forward but not audi vw
@@tommyyuhas5816 it still short shifts from wheel spin with the TCU tune?
@@jgurdon yes it will shift at around 6k if you have traction control off and it spun the wheels during the launch
I have a 2017 S6 that I picked up in January and have really enjoyed modding it (stage 2 currently). I bought it as a daily driver and more of a cruiser but it’s got great power and ok handling. I like the dual nature of it but, at 4400lbs, this car does not feel like a sports car. I will be installing a rear sway bar at some point but it’s not the best thing to hustle around corners, etc. and IMO the steering is way over-boosted.
I’m fortunate to have another manual transmission sports car in the garage. The S6 is the most magic from 1-7/10ths and then falls apart a little bit if you’re really trying to hustle it (except for straight line speed where it excels). Hope this helps you with your decision.
6:39 Very Nice 🤔.
when doing the foot wave, dont go side to side just do it once right in the middle like a football. cant hold foot under too long as it waits til its clear to open
Yup a single like 1 second kick straight (vs waving it back and forth) slightly off right from center works for me almost everytime.
Is there something to visually indicate you have this feature (maybe on the diffuser)? My MY16 S6 won’t do it no matter what I try.
@@petew.7911 all of them have it. Make sure you have your keys on you and do it as described. If it still isnt working, go to car-vehicle settings-central locking- and make sure "disable rear lid" is not turned on. All of them have it though assuming youre in america
So that explains why the motor mounts went on my dads s6…
Super awesome car though!
I believe if you drive in dynamic mode it wont deactivate cylinders either, not 100% sure on that though.
@@fullname9338 it will still switch to 4 cyl mode in dynamic.
@@cookiehead2 even with ECS off?
@@fullname9338 I haven’t tried that. But it would probably still drop to 4cyl mode when the conditions are right. Coolant temp, engine speed and load are what influence it.
My question is what websites did you use to search for a car like this ?!? ... I’m searching for one to buy/ upgrade in the future
I’m a big car.com guy, but I’ve recently been using AutoTempest if I can’t find what I want on cars.com because it pulls results from 8 or 9 different sources!
Abrodolph Lincoler spitting the truth here!!!
what about that transmission tho
Power trunk, IR camera, power shades, HUD are all Prestige Trim options.
Have you a noticed a significant drop in mpg after the cylinder deactivation was disabled?
Honestly no
Does anyone know what happened to this guy's lower lip?? Is it an allergic reaction? Or did he get hit in the lip and it's all swollen up? Very informative vid and I've had some of those issues on my S8 + but I couldn't pay attention I just kept seeing a smurff 🙁 I hope he redoes another 4.0TT video when the swelling goes down
my budget for one of these is roughly 25k-27k. Do you think with this price i’d be able to pick up a good one that won’t blow up immediately after purchase?
With the budget you just mentioned, you’re going to have to settle for an S6 with relatively high mileage. Keep in mind, people beat these V8 engines. Just do your due diligence before purchasing (maintenance records, ownership & get your mechanic to look at the car). If a price looks too good to be true, stay away. You need deep pockets to repair this car.
I bought my 13 S6 for $25k out the door at 101k miles at 105k right now and just tuned with integrated engineering and it runs perfectly, just make sure the oil change intervals are done between 3-5k miles and remove the oil screens and you should be good
@@zorroeurosports9947 Funny you mention this. I was looking at a 2016 with 110k miles. They want 24k for it.
@@hikeskool yeah, i changed my mind. I’m looking for something a little more realistic now. that’s a lot of money just to buy a car that’s gonna give out on me. thanks for your input, though!
@@hikeskool you too man!
Is there anyway to tell if a car has the oil screens taken care of? Looking at an s7, dealer does not know.
Unfortunately not :/
@@IgnitionTube If you don't mind me asking, roughly how much does it cost to take out the oil screens? Did you just replace them or have it removed? Didn't see a video on it so i'm assuming that you didn't go the DIY route.
@@user-uq4ly6fp6m That is a really big job, the replacement cost was north of 1500 Euros for me, although the parts are not the most expensive part, it is a very labour intensive job I had the oil separator, oil screen, check valve and gasket replaced. Just removing it will be quite a bit cheaper, but I was advised not to do this (Audi would not have the screen there if it did absolutely nothing). Anyhow quite a few people just removed it and I haven't heard they have any issues.
Also the heads up display
I thought the S6 had automatic trunk, which is good, because I personally prefer to close my trunk manually.
The Prestige model allows you to open and close the trunk remotely, and it's an extremely nice feature.
@@jimlab when you say remotely. You can open and close from the driver seat, say for doing a drive up target order pickup?
@@nV.Cars. When I say remotely, I mean that I can open and close my trunk from across a parking lot with my key fob. Yes, the trunk button on the driver's door performs the same function from inside the car.
Did you sell it due to the clutches being worn? or what other things did you foresee becoming a problem ?
Nothing honestly. Car was really well taken care of. Clutches don’t wear out on DSG cars.
@@IgnitionTube thanks for your feedback
Comfort seats are for an old man till you find out how clutch the cooling is for longer distances during hot days on a full leather seats :)
Old!
The flat bottom steering wheel just mean there is no heated steering wheel but the back seats are heated if there is a cold weather package
My 2016 S7 came with a unheated flat bottom wheel and heated back seats
Canada.
@@hikeskool Manufactures have a North American spec not US vs. Canada.
Could you please stop saying "have a Blessed day" after openly insulting a person multiple times. That isn't our Father speaking. He speaks life.
any air intake coming? or you good with the stock one.
I have a prototype one on the car right now 🤐🤐🤐
@@IgnitionTube when yoh will show us lol?
When I’m cleared to show it!
@@IgnitionTube if sounds good the turbos, has a good air flow and really takes cold air from outside will be a winner. I will be waiting thanks bro
Masshole!!!!!
can you make a video how to remove the oil screen
I didn’t do the job myself, otherwise I would
I can make a video when I put in my rs7 turbos, already removed the oil screen and driving car since still waiting for some backordered parts
Does C7 and C7.5 A6 also come with air ride?
I think it may have been an option on some, but most are on traditional suspension
Where is the power sun shade button
**C7 started with the 2012 model**
Watch out for DSG issues as well, mine failed at 68k miles
What did it cost to fix?
C7 starts at 2012
How much does it cost to remove the oil screens?
If you get the PCV done under the extended 120k mile emissions warranty prior to tuning it… you could *hypothetically* have the tech remove the screens while in there for a little extra side money :)
I'm interested in buying a S8 but I'm really afraid of this oil screen issues.
You fix that when you install RS7 turbos and downpipes. ;)
Ok bro, I’m not sure if you are Amish or Muslim, please advise.
I got a C7.. it's American though..1💪
C7 actually starts at 2012 Model.
S6 in the US starts with 2013!
BUT BUT BUT BAT BAT BATH BATH BATH BETH BETH ….. grrrrrrrrr🤯
Bro, what?
@@myster__e lol
huh are we comparing your face to the car here or what am i looking at? i swear.. why do most YT videos of people focus on their face rather than the topic of the video??? so annoying.
Yes, my face is also a C7 S6
The Amish can't drive
Not durable cars
@@hikeskool my boss had his wing mirror fail on his S6 before he sold it, 1k usd