Just started to learn how to roll. This is the first video that really made it clear how everything fits together! Many thanks for the effort and great video.
Thanks for the comment. Yes getting the blade fully out of the water before you start can help get you into an efficient position to get the blade nice and wide.
Just stumbled upon this video, really incredible stuff and very important for rolling. After the hip snap I think keeping your head down is one of the most important parts, and one of the hardest
I have stopped kayaking for many years now, take my skills back from your channel. You are distinguished in your lessons and in professional photography, which consolidates the concepts of the lesson. I hope that you will put in your next episodes program how to choose the right boat and the necessary accessories, and the appropriate places to buy these tools online.
Great footage. Would be cool to add a gopro underneath to see the activity under the water. I've got dodgy shoulders and bought a Greenland paddle to use this year, I take it the sweep would be more effective for with this?
Easiest way get a bat or gp canoe join a club and have some pool lessons, I thought I was good but being in a pool with mates I was in Durham kayak club I lived by the sea but one of my friends in the club made the whole thing easy. Whereas trying to imitate books ( in my case) or vids is not going do much except bruised thighs trying to roll without technique.
I see you have the blades aligned, I use mine un-aligned so I only move one hand to rotate the blade. Is this important when doing a roll ? (kayaking for 35 years never did a roll 😁
it should not make a huge amount of difference with different feather. No matter what feather paddle you are using you may still have to rotate the blade a little to get into your set up position. We have a lesson on this in the full course
Grab the spare paddle on your front deck and use it. In my case that would be half of a Euro paddle. Once up, snap the other half together and fetch your main paddle. Might want to practice rolling with just half a paddle first and get a feel for it. Hope that helps.
Why are the Brittish so keen on C to C? And in the sweep roll, flippning you head far back on your way up make things so much easier. And so does a greenland paddle...
people tend to end up in a backwards position after performing a sweep roll. best conditions to capsize right again in heavy sea. here in germany we learn C to C always first because the movement is easier to learn and you always end upright in ready position in your kayak.
@@macgeifer8850 A bad advise i m o. Not only do you risk your shoulders by doing this - you fight against the waves instead of following them. The sweeproll is so smooth and gentle to your body - you become one with the sea. And you don't need to rely on force.
@@erikwahlberg448 I am not an rolling expert so forgive me but why is C-C fighting against the waves? there are also several mixed forms and I guess everyone will use at the end what works best for him or her. not saying sweeproll is bad, I just said what happens if people learn lazy rolls. it not only about getting you and your boat upright again somehow with the least amount of effort.
I have gotten to witness an extremely large sample size of watching students roll in extreme tidal current. Statistically speaking, students that gravitate towards a C to C have more success in dynamic conditions than those who sweep. It's not a British thing, if you watch the best sea kayakers in the world, the majority tend to gravitate towards C to C and do NOT use Greenland Paddles as they don't provide as much support. Some folks prefer a GP and sweep roll due to body limitations, or they just enjoy the ease of movement, which is fine, but you'll notice that these top coaches here, give different options for different folks as they understand that there is not one "catch all" technique when it comes to sea kayak performance.
A free tip for everybody that I received for free, early February 2022. Let’s assume you are attempting rolls, again and again. Your face emerges, but then you lose it and you’re back upside down, swimming or er…drowning. The tip i received…..when you are ready to right yourself, paddle in position, as you make the pull down…. Fix your eyes on the tip, or where the tip is if the water is murky then keep fixed on the tip of the paddle the whole time. Again…watch the very tip of the paddle through the entire sweep and pull procedure. It made my rolls 100% successful from then on. That’s with both Greenland and Euro paddle. The tip works because, if you do so, the action actually contributes to the body twist and unwinding core strength without trying to be conscious of it. Happy rolling!
@@onlineseakayaking Not all paddlers? The contortion action of getting your focus fixed on the paddle tip brings together the three important elements 1. unwinding body torsion, 2. the hip movement and 3. bringing the head up last in one smooth no-need-to-think-about it anymore. Good for all I’d say.
@@josephinebennington7247 just watch for paddlers rotating their body in the same direction the blade is being swept. When some paddlers watch the blade they rotate their body so the body is facing the water. An efficient roll is when the back is on the water as you recover and so you would achieve this more easily by looking up. I do agree though that looking at the paddle when doing your roll does help with the key points you make.
Interesting, but for me the instruction 'shed the tension from the blade' is too abstract, what does it actually mean in practice? And of course, as with all these videos, what would be REALLY useful would be video or diagrams from the point of view of the kayaker. Trying to absorb kinaesthetic information visually is hard, but from the 'wrong way up' almost impossible!
To my understanding it could be taken as getting rid of the tension/drag/resistance caused (usually) by having too much climbing angle on the sweeping blade. In sweep roll, if you have negative climbing angle your blade dives too deep but it does so quite effortlessly. On the other hand, if there is too much climbing angle in the blade, it probably stays close to the surface but at the same time causes too much drag and slows down the movement (i.e. instead of turning the kayak with your hip flick you end up using your efforts to move your paddle). I would say that if you can see the climbing angle in your blade, there is already too much of it. Instead, you should feel the correct angle through your paddle by concentrating on the sweeping motion and when it feels effortless.
What an absolutely perfect video. Crisp description, apt pacing and bang-on visuals of the break-up of the steps. Thank you so much!
Really glad you liked it ☺
Excellent video class. The best I have ever seen. 🙏
Great to hear you enjoyed it! Happy rolling 💪
This video is what brought me finally to roll successfully after a year of trying
Well done and many rhanks
Nice! Well done for getting your roll. You did the hard bit 💪
I just started rolling in sea kayaks with advanced class. By far, the best video out there because of the shots of your video footage. Great job!
Great to hear!
Just started to learn how to roll. This is the first video that really made it clear how everything fits together! Many thanks for the effort and great video.
The best video about rolling ever seen so far, thank you from italy
This is one of the BEST videos on the Roll I have seen!! Thank You!!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Best visual instruction available , Thanks!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Those kayaks are sick…love the dragon design!
Thanks we like them too!
I'm a french paddler and yes i agree this a very good and comprehensive video, thank you
French? Do you paddle with French Fries? Just wondering
Excellent video of rolling a sea kayak. I found that pushing the paddle higher up out of the water during the setup gave me a more bomb proof roll.
Thanks for the comment. Yes getting the blade fully out of the water before you start can help get you into an efficient position to get the blade nice and wide.
best video I ever saw about rolling.
Thank you very much.
With best regards from the Kiel Canal
//MAtz
Glad it was helpful!
Just stumbled upon this video, really incredible stuff and very important for rolling. After the hip snap I think keeping your head down is one of the most important parts, and one of the hardest
This was really well done. I'm saving this to review before the next skills night with my club.
I have stopped kayaking for many years now, take my skills back from your channel. You are distinguished in your lessons and in professional photography, which consolidates the concepts of the lesson.
I hope that you will put in your next episodes program how to choose the right boat and the necessary accessories, and the appropriate places to buy these tools online.
Wow, thanks
We do have lessons in our online courses about equipment and how to choose the right kit.
Thank you! it seems a very effective tecnique, next Summer i will definitely try it!
This was a very well done video, wow!!! Thank you!!!!!
How heavy are the boats you're using
They are around 20-25kg
Do you need any particular hip action for this? Also have you successfully employed this during an unplanned tip over?
You do need to use a hip action. Our full online course on this goes through ways to develop a good hip action.
Great footage. Would be cool to add a gopro underneath to see the activity under the water. I've got dodgy shoulders and bought a Greenland paddle to use this year, I take it the sweep would be more effective for with this?
There are quite a few videos with the gopros while under the water. UA-cam!!!
@@DennyT71 I know.... Aren't you clever. I'm talking about this clip.
As with 90 % of rolling videos nearly all the talk is on what happens from the waist up when the hip snap is what is the most important
We agree that the hip snap is the most important factor in a roll. In our full course we have a whole section on developing this aspect of the roll.
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Easiest way get a bat or gp canoe join a club and have some pool lessons, I thought I was good but being in a pool with mates I was in Durham kayak club I lived by the sea but one of my friends in the club made the whole thing easy. Whereas trying to imitate books ( in my case) or vids is not going do much except bruised thighs trying to roll without technique.
We totally agree. Our course teaches you how to work with a paddling partner to develop your technique.
Good video friend
I see you have the blades aligned, I use mine un-aligned so I only move one hand to rotate the blade. Is this important when doing a roll ? (kayaking for 35 years never did a roll 😁
it should not make a huge amount of difference with different feather. No matter what feather paddle you are using you may still have to rotate the blade a little to get into your set up position. We have a lesson on this in the full course
What happens if you get knocked by a wave and lose the paddle? How can you roll without it?
Grab the spare paddle on your front deck and use it. In my case that would be half of a Euro paddle. Once up, snap the other half together and fetch your main paddle. Might want to practice rolling with just half a paddle first and get a feel for it. Hope that helps.
Yes you could learn how to do a hand roll or how to grab a paddle off your front deck and roll up with it
What happens if u lose ur paddle when u turn over
Then its time to learn a hand roll!
Why are the Brittish so keen on C to C? And in the sweep roll, flippning you head far back on your way up make things so much easier. And so does a greenland paddle...
people tend to end up in a backwards position after performing a sweep roll. best conditions to capsize right again in heavy sea. here in germany we learn C to C always first because the movement is easier to learn and you always end upright in ready position in your kayak.
@@macgeifer8850 A bad advise i m o. Not only do you risk your shoulders by doing this - you fight against the waves instead of following them. The sweeproll is so smooth and gentle to your body - you become one with the sea. And you don't need to rely on force.
@@erikwahlberg448 I am not an rolling expert so forgive me but why is C-C fighting against the waves? there are also several mixed forms and I guess everyone will use at the end what works best for him or her. not saying sweeproll is bad, I just said what happens if people learn lazy rolls. it not only about getting you and your boat upright again somehow with the least amount of effort.
I have gotten to witness an extremely large sample size of watching students roll in extreme tidal current. Statistically speaking, students that gravitate towards a C to C have more success in dynamic conditions than those who sweep. It's not a British thing, if you watch the best sea kayakers in the world, the majority tend to gravitate towards C to C and do NOT use Greenland Paddles as they don't provide as much support. Some folks prefer a GP and sweep roll due to body limitations, or they just enjoy the ease of movement, which is fine, but you'll notice that these top coaches here, give different options for different folks as they understand that there is not one "catch all" technique when it comes to sea kayak performance.
A free tip for everybody that I received for free, early February 2022. Let’s assume you are attempting rolls, again and again. Your face emerges, but then you lose it and you’re back upside down, swimming or er…drowning. The tip i received…..when you are ready to right yourself, paddle in position, as you make the pull down…. Fix your eyes on the tip, or where the tip is if the water is murky then keep fixed on the tip of the paddle the whole time. Again…watch the very tip of the paddle through the entire sweep and pull procedure. It made my rolls 100% successful from then on. That’s with both Greenland and Euro paddle.
The tip works because, if you do so, the action actually contributes to the body twist and unwinding core strength without trying to be conscious of it.
Happy rolling!
Looking at the tip can be a big help for some paddlers
@@onlineseakayaking Not all paddlers? The contortion action of getting your focus fixed on the paddle tip brings together the three important elements 1. unwinding body torsion, 2. the hip movement and 3. bringing the head up last in one smooth no-need-to-think-about it anymore. Good for all I’d say.
@@josephinebennington7247 just watch for paddlers rotating their body in the same direction the blade is being swept. When some paddlers watch the blade they rotate their body so the body is facing the water. An efficient roll is when the back is on the water as you recover and so you would achieve this more easily by looking up. I do agree though that looking at the paddle when doing your roll does help with the key points you make.
@@onlineseakayaking . 👍👍
What's the trick to prevent people on Shore from calling helicopters fire trucks rescue boats and airplanes when you practice rolling.
We sometimes let the local coastguard know when we are practicing rescues to help prevent this.
Nice boat. Get a Greenland paddle though.
We have a lesson on Greenland rolling.
@@onlineseakayaking was referring to a Greenland paddle, not rolling
Interesting, but for me the instruction 'shed the tension from the blade' is too abstract, what does it actually mean in practice? And of course, as with all these videos, what would be REALLY useful would be video or diagrams from the point of view of the kayaker. Trying to absorb kinaesthetic information visually is hard, but from the 'wrong way up' almost impossible!
To my understanding it could be taken as getting rid of the tension/drag/resistance caused (usually) by having too much climbing angle on the sweeping blade. In sweep roll, if you have negative climbing angle your blade dives too deep but it does so quite effortlessly. On the other hand, if there is too much climbing angle in the blade, it probably stays close to the surface but at the same time causes too much drag and slows down the movement (i.e. instead of turning the kayak with your hip flick you end up using your efforts to move your paddle). I would say that if you can see the climbing angle in your blade, there is already too much of it. Instead, you should feel the correct angle through your paddle by concentrating on the sweeping motion and when it feels effortless.
Here's how I roll a sea kayak:
Step 1
Stay on shore
Step 2
Fk that sht
😅