Home Assistant - Nabu Casa vs DIY (Costs & Benefits Compared)
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- Опубліковано 2 сер 2024
- Home assistant Nabu Casa compared against DIY alternative (Costs & Benefits)
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How dose time = money when this is our hobby.
As far as time goes I followed a video to connect my googles to HA. took like 15 mins
But I do agree Nabu Casa is a great service and a great way to support the growth of HA
I'm in Australia so cost us about $8 per month
Hi Fred:) really depends on your point of view, I fully enjoy tinkering, this is more for a consumer buying home assistant blue and comparing HA to HomeKit or other. Some people don't even know how to connect to their own router. Good discussion and thanks for your comment
Honestly, one of the best reasons to purchase Nabu Casa is to support the developers.
Thank you for sharing, I love learning and solving problems, I think most of us love the challenge too.
Yes we do :)
Thanks this is a good video. Can please make a video on Home-Assistant: Linking multiple instances via Websocket API
Hi Arun, is this for when you have multiple properties with ha in each one?
@@SmartHomeMakers two use cases 1. multiple properties 2. same home having two routers having it is own HA instance
Great video and helped me make my decision.
The only thing I disagree with is…. I don’t think recommending people look at port forwarding. That’s a bad idea. Instead they should be looking at cloudflare tunnels. It would be bad if bad actors got access to your smart home system.
Agree with what you said above! Thanks for watching !
Thanks for the video 🙂 I'm convinced with Nabu Casa, only one thing puzzles me. I will be using HA to run a greenhouse growing chilli's and there will be gaps of some months between batches. Do you know if it's like a rolling monthly type thing? I.e only pay for the time HA is being used and pause payments for the months off?
I can't find any info anywhere
You can cancel at any time as far as I know! Do you need nabu casa for your greenhouse project ?
@@SmartHomeMakers hi, thanks for your help 🙂 It's more for peace of mind really, the user is away during the week so the ability to monitor remotely and see if anything is wrong is important to them. I don't want to open ports on their router, although I've done it for node-red while experimentally poking around for solutions.
Got it! Really good use case are you an installer or friend ?
@@SmartHomeMakers I'm the technical friend talking them into automation and thus the installer and maintainer. Starting to wish I hadn't agreed to repurpose their old laptop as im having a nightmare getting HA onto it. Pi was easy haha
@@martink9785 I'm sure you are doing a good deed!
It’s simple and goes to support home assistant development, it’s a no brainier for me.
Indeed!
Time=Money is only true when you are investing your time aiming to make money otherwise it does not make sense. If I spend 10 hours learning to play a song on my piano, I wasted 10 hours that I did not invest in a profitable activity according to this logic. That said I will subscribe, but for other reasons that make more sense, like investing in Home assistant project for example.
Hiya! I understand again it is just a framework to have a debate upon. Supporting the project is really a good thing to do
I don't think TTS works unless you're using a very old version. The only way to have this function is by subscription. Apart from that the main value add for subscribing is the security element and that all commands are processed locally and not via the internet
Good point about processing locally!
A norther option would be to access your home network via VPN and then HA. What are your thoughts on that?
You can do that would that be a free VPN service or paid?
@@SmartHomeMakers It's a free VPN service. My router is a FritzBox from AVM. It includes settings to access your home network via VPN . But I'm sure other router companies offer that service to.
@@davidlujan5369 Makes sense to me! What about connecting to voice assistance ?
@@SmartHomeMakers you can set up your home assistant with your own VPN service. No costs.
@@alexlouder yes you can! What VPN service do you use?
Thanks. I agree with you and believe that the cost for Nabu Casa is worth it.
It certainly is, you can live without it until you are fully committed to home assistant!
I found I needed it for Oauth to use Nest integration as it required a registered domain and Nabucasa gives me that.
Me too, great use case for it. I just found out that you can use the event to trigger an automation (doorbell pressed)!
not necessarily true, you can do it without a registered domain, just need to set up dns on your router
It's waaay easier to get Alexa and Home Assistant working together, than you discuss here. I've made a whole Playlist on connecting and using Alexa with Home Assistant.
There's no need for DEV accounts, writing custom Skills and should only take about 20mins.
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Sure! Could take you and me 30 mins, what about other people that are not so technically inclined. Those that use Amazon Alexa and Home Kit for example
@@SmartHomeMakers Ah ok, I thought you were a Home Assistant guy too. :)
@@3ATIVE Goal of my channel is to get more people into smart home and home assistant :) Good video playlist !
I also do it without nabucasa. Look, it's not about time and money it's just because you are independent with their servers. This is very important. That's why we use HA. Look at IFTTT... maybe same will happened and with nabucasa, in near future...
Good point! I get your point of view, hopefully we don’t have an IFTTT situation!
HELP. I trialed Nabu Casa with burner email account and decided to setup permanently and used my real email account and now can't remove the burner email account from my Home Assistant instance even though I deleted the burner email account in Nabu Casa. How do I unlink the burner email account in Nabu Casa and put in the new "real" email account?
Never did that before ! I would raise a support ticket for the HA team !
in Poland it returns after 2-3 months
Is that because of the average wage?
I received an email that from August 22. NC will charge me £6.50 per month. I paid £4.36 before. This is an increase of ~30%. Frankly said, this is a bit greedy, is it not? Don't get me wrong I am happy to support the developers but there are some limits. I am working in IT and believe that you cannot rate the hours that you are spending with your hobby in the same way as your working hours. It is maybe 6 hours work to get it set up and then you don't have to look into it again.
Hey Buddy! I got the same email, however if you pay annually it would be £65 a year which is £5.41 (still higher than before) agree you can't rate hours of a hobby. But for some companies that support home assistant instances that could be the case
Hobby = investment; how can it be an expense ? Check K.Marx
Hi Serg, appreciate your comment! You can also argue that learning about networking can enhance your profile and understanding which could translate into value (earning more). What do you use? :)
@@SmartHomeMakers If we are talking about Time = Money, Home Assistant is not the way to go. So yes, Nabu Casa is good but not for the cost in time of DIY alternative. All that we need to do in HA will take our time, and if we are worry with that it's better to go to an alternative clean and easy with one closed ecosystem like Tuya for example.
@@desenvolvimentoetecnologia Good point Miguel, that is my mission with this channel. Try to make HA more accessible to non tech people!
Yeahhh, so it's worth it, but still expensive...
Price has gone up now based on inflation! The great thing is that you can choose not to use it
@@SmartHomeMakers Sure. And you can choose not to use google, youtube or windows.
But if you need the feature, you explained pretty well why it's irrational not buying it.
Anyway I guess I just wanted to point out that software capitalism does not work really well.
@@hlkz7067 software capitalism has its pros and cons like open source vs proprietary. We have options which is great !
LMAO NO. You're misleading.
-I was unfamiliar with all the concepts and it took me about 5 hours total by following quality and easily reachable tutorials.
-The wage should be diluted in about 16 hours (awake time), as you wouldn't do this while working, but in your free time, (aka when you're not earning a wage)
-Nabu casa is a glorified VPN and it's OBSCENELY expensive.
-Home assistant developers are getting a little too comfortable and the documentation has still big gaps in it. So your supporting argument goes out of the window.
-Again if you're a home assistant developer you do this for your own recreation, not money.
If they would lower the price of Nabu casa to maybe $2-3 month then it's a different thing.
But at $5 IS NOT WORTH IT.
Hey Louder, thanks for adding your opinion :) As any economical model it is based on assumptions and we have our own perceptions! This model only works when you have TIME = MONEY. If that is not the case, like it is a hobby or people enjoy it then it makes sense.
i think you have shares , your way of thinking is wrong and you waste my time can i send you a bill now , lol
Sure :) I still think nabu casa is worth the money unless you are a network engineer