Would you recommend the 42.5mm or the 25mm lens if I want to start doing 4k Product Videos, using Photo box with artificial lighting, it can be as small as CPU to as big as Router or Playstation 4? Or maybe one of the Zoom lenses like Olympus M.Zuiko digital ED 12-50mm 3.5-6.3 EZ ED MSC, it has Macro, power zoom and maybe it can workhorse to replace all lenses? Right now I have the small power zoom 12-42 panasonic lens, its OK but I want something more quality and better suited for Product photography.
you forgot the most important part... the test shots! Id love to see the difference in talking head and portrait photography between the 42.5 1.2 and the nikon with the 85mm 1.8
Consideration of bokeh should also be a factor especially when intended use is portraiture or flowers etc. For this reason I went for olympus lens as it has more rounded, less distracting bokeh than the 42.5 f1.7. Admittedly the Panasonic has near macro in its favour but I figured that's a job for another lens anyway. My top criteria was good enough sharpness wide open in the middle and decent bokeh. I think the search for razor sharp glass eliminates many lenses that have other qualities that when added up just give that unique look that is natural rather than clinical. I say this as a user of many cameras and owner of some very sharp glass. I fell back in love with my Canon 5D Mk1 despite having Sony A9 and A7R2..
Very good point. Just seen a video from Skyler King which compared the bokehs: the Oly showed lights as circular, the Pana was "jagged" (seemed to be showing the aperture blades?)
Yep, I've been using the Olympus for more than 10 years and a few days ago I got the Panasonic for 100€, a deal I couldn't pass. The Panasonic is indeed much sharper across the frame for landscapes but it definitely has more nervous and distracting bokeh compared to the Olympus. Both are very nice and I'll probably keep them both, it won't break the bank.
I owned both Panasonic 42.5mm F1.7 and Panasonic 30mm Macro lenses. and the close up shots is so good for 42.5mm, i never needed to use my 30mm macro lens. also, couldnt find the review on your channel... and I have Olympus 25mm 1.8 and the autofocus on it is quiet good, but when i shoot videos for my G7, the noise of tracking is TERRIBLE! i think if you own a Panasonic cam, get all Lumix lenses...
Now that Panasonic has IBIS in almost all of their camera bodies, these stabilized lenses allow for dual IS. The Panasonic 42.5 f/1.7 is more expensive then the Olympus, but it is also sharper, faster, and gets you the dual stabilization on newer bodies.
Stabilisation and camera shake - 42-45mm is a long lens on MFT, a telephoto, and is at the point where a lens needs stabilisation hand held. The unstabilised Olly works well on an Olympus back like the E-M5ii but on a Panasonic, it needs the tripod. Shutter rule of thumb to hand hold unstabilised, round up the focal length ~1/60s minimum. The Panasonic 42.4 f/1.2 will shake more because it is physically heavier. On a Panasonic back increase shutter speed until the red stabilisation lamp goes out All of these lenses have good glass however a faster lens will always have better definition. A quick comparison I did found the adapted Chinon 50mm f/1.9 to be about the same as the Olympus 45mm f/1.8. Technically the magic number is focal length divided by aperture, so the Chinon 50mm f/1.4 (35.7) should be the same or better than the Panny 42.5 f/1.2 (35.4), it is certainly better than the Olly 45mm. Chinon were similar to Pentax but with even better glass, but of course they adapt as all-manual.
Great job. I have the 1.2. I was wondering about the diff to 1.7. Il keep my 1.2. Love it for various reasons. But that extra speed really helps. And the smooth OOF areas are had to beat.
Great job! Your reviews are one of the best I've seen. Very to the point with excellent audio and editing. Regarding the micro jitter, it was an issue with Pana 12-35 for quite a while. However they came up with firmware update which fixed the issue (lens update, not the body). I guess they did the same for 42.5 1.2 but you need to update it.
If your GH4 is not autofocusing reliably during video, you have set it up wrong or perhaps it needs the firmware update. Refocus in video is deliberately slower for smooth transitions (and less audible noise) but the main trick is to keep the focus point (spot) on the subject. Fwiw I got the G7 as the GH4's B-cam. But the point is the GH4 can and will follow focus better than the G7. Depending where you're showing it, 4K can be a waste of milk, FHD is all that's needed for the interweb, 4K just slows download. If it's not being shown on a 4K screen (Ultra-HD) then it has to be downsized which causes dropouts.
Trouble with the review is your only talking about the 3 lenses on a panasonic body,ive got an olympus pen so the image stabilliser stuff and auto-focus speed comments dont apply. I would guess the olympus lens focus speed on an olympus body is quicker than the panasonic lenses but i will have to look elsewhere for that info.
Great review exactly what I was looking for answered all my questions, and your demo video was really well shot and demonstrated the differences excellently. Thanks so much you are one of the most comprehensive professional reviewers that I follow.
Great video Max! I'm glad Panasonic is making better and better lenses and their getting so good at it that Leica has decided to let Panasonic make all their new SL Series lenses. If they are good enough for Leica they are good enough for me.
Personally I prefer plastic lens hoods as they actually protect the lens. The metal ones transfer too much energy to the lens in my opinion. Plastic lens hoods have saved me a few times. :)
Great review. The Leica panny 42.5 F1.2 is £765 on eBay at present. A very tempting proposition indeed. I nearly pulled the trigger on it today, however, I have the Olympus 45mm F1.8 already, and if you use a tripod with a GH4 the images you get can be stellar. You have helped me save my money and come to my senses. Thanks, Max.
Thank you for the review. I am impressed with the 42.5m f1.7. I have an olympus pen E2 camera, an olympus 17mm f2.8 and a 40-150mm f4.0-5.6 zoom. I am debating whether to get the olympus 45mm f1.8, olympus 25mm f1.8, the panasonic leica 25mm f1.4 or this 42.5mm f1.7 to complement my existing lenses. Hope to hear your comments.
Hock Pheng Low 25mm for general all purpose high quality everyday use. The 45 or 42.5 from either manufacturer if you like the 45mm focal length when using your current zoom lens but also want better image quality and low light capability in a much smaller package. Both the 25 and 45 can do portraits as well
Thanks so much for the excellent review! You guys sure do put in a lot of work for us regular folks! You reinforced my thoughts about the Pany 42.5 f/1.7 lens. I simply love mine. Can you please tell me where to find the reviews on the Panasonic 30mm lens and the review on the Panasonic G7 that you mentioned in the above video? I'd love to hear what you have to say, esp the 30mm macro. I had that on my list of wanted lenses. Thx!!!!
Hey Max, Currently I have a 14-140 on my G7 and want a extension to a faster lens for indoor, garden, portret and reports. I like your advice. Thanks in advance! Henk
Take the Panasonic 100-300mm. It has a nice pricetag for the very good pictures. If you need more range go for the 100-400mm. If you need it faster go for Panasonic 200mm or if money is no point Olympus 300mm
thankyou! im a bmpcc4k user, and now i make my opinion on the 1.7 lence. cause much cheaper ,much lighter and better OIS system. but the main point's paying 4X price to get the 1.2 lence to get the little upgrade is not really worthy (for me it's a lot money)
Thx Max. I use the GH4 and wanted a prime that was fast. Your video (watched several times) helped my shopping choice using comparisons so directly. I was surprised thinking the f1.2 would walk away with it. My new f1.7 is on the way. Again, like with the Apple iMac 5K, you were a big help.
Hi! Since this is for MFT system, aren't these lenses equivalent to ~80mm FF? I thought that portrait lens were ~50mm (ie: 25mm lens in mft system). Thank you
Hi :) I just received mine. Did you notice that something "moves" inside ? Probably the stab, but I'm surprised how much I can feel it, just by grabing it (no shaking of course) Thanks
Thank you so much I just got the m5 mark ii on discount and picked up Olly 45 and was wavering since I wanted to get great portraits and food photography. Would like to ask your thoughts Max. I currently have a T6i and few lenses and wanted to keep it for ease of video as main camera and Olly as B roll but am considering replacing 6i with the G7 that's heavily discounted now for price and get the 4k but I love my canon lenses and know i can use Olly lenses there too. What your thoughts?
I have watched one more review of the f1.2 Nocticorn by Darren Miles where he states that these lens is NOT weather sealed (which is pretty much ridiculous at this price) and you're saying at 9:49 that it is weather sealed, so where is the truth?
Bravo to Panasonic for including power o.i.s, thus providing us (consumers) a fantastic portrait lens. I bought one this last xmas, absolutely no regrets! With that said, that Leica is sweet. The 45mm without a lens-hood, c'mon Oly. Panasonic, please keep making products that provide value to consumers! Max, nice review sir.
Excellent review Max. Thank you. Would you see any problems in using the Panasonic F1.7 on my Olympus OMD M1? I presume I would turn off the OIS on the lens.
Hello Max, Can't find that review for Lumix 30mm 2.8 on your channel. Where can I watch it? Thanks. PS: hope you do more reviews on Panasonic cameras and lens in the future.
Hey guys russian rider here 😭 Your first Video on the fz-07 was the First Time i have Seen you on UA-cam. Now i am watching all of your Camera Videos 😄
Hey max great video comparing these lenses. I don't really know the difference in lenses yet as I'm still learning, I recently purchased g7 and would using it mostly for UA-cam reviews. I'm intrested in upgrading the kit lens it came with and I'm loving your preference on the Panasonic lens 1st lens 1.8 however would you think this would be good for viewing close up tech shots and about 10 feet shoots. I don't really know what MM means for lenses
If you're shooting real close up, you will probably want a macro lens (depending on how close). You can usually get close enough with either the 42.5/45 for most normal work, so it just depends on what you're doing. mm = millimeters and helps tell you what the viewing angle, compression, and other qualities might be on the lens itself. Higher MM number = more telephoto it will be, lower MM number = wider. the 45mm is technically in the "normal" range but behaves on a native m43 camera like a 90mm due to the crop factor on M43 sensors (like the G7). I strongly recommend renting or borrowing any lenses before you buy. Also, if you are shooting macro/close up work, you can adapt an old 50mm lens (like a canon fd 50mm f1.8) that costs 30 dollars using a 20 dollar adapter and it will behave good enough for what you are doing. 50 dollars total VS 350+, although you will be sacrificing any autofocus or OIS, however I highly doubt OIS is necessary if you are using a tripod. I have a Director of Photographer friend who uses both Zeiss and old Canon FD glass on her Red Dragon, so yes the image quality for video holds up today.
In the UK the price difference is huge at the moment. Today I can buy the Olympus for £149 - claim £30 back from Olympus - and have it for £119. The Panasonic 42.5 is £349. Not a long way off 1/3 of the price. That complicates matters!
+chirpybee I Guess they had to drop the price to make it more worth it. If you don't need the image stabilization then for that price go for the Olympus.
I'm really worried of my choice in camera. I believe I'm gonna go with the Lumix G7 strictly due to it's price vs what it offers though I'm a bit worried about the low MP count for future proofing it as a daily shooter over newer smartphones. Furthermore I'm scared it won't be good video since I strictly film whilst moving and having it handheld and it doesn't offer any IBIS but it certainly seems like the lens stabilizer is quite decent and might actually make it a better choice over the olympus m10 mark II
+ScrattleGG Hey! I know I didn't make this video so take my advice with a grain of salt. Regarding the MP count: it matters a lot less than they'll make you believe. What does matter is sensor size, and any camera will have smartphones beat there. It's not about how many MP it captures, but what the MP contain. Regarding the G7: I was in the same situation as you. Which is why I'm happy that I waited, because Panasonic is releasing the GX85 THIS WEEK, which is a GX7 successor. It has 5-axis body image stabilization, and although it's a bit more expensive than what G7 sells for these days (about $150 more, MSRP), I think the IBIS alone is worth the admission price. A lot of people are having a downer on the GX85 for video because it doesn't include a mic input, but anybody who's REALLY serious about video uses off-board recorders with better pre-amps, so I never understood the issue myself. The GX85 is much more compact, and while it does lack an extra dial and a couple of shooting modes over the G7, you get better image quality in stills with a removed anti aliasing filter. So, swings and roundabouts. I'm buying the GX85 after thinking about the G7 long and hard (moving away from Canon APS-C). I hope my (many) hours of research can help you a bit.
??? MAX...You Never Said Which Of You're 2 Panasonic Lens ""FOCUSED CLOSER THEN ONE FOOT?"" The 1.7?? OR The Top DAWG Noticron F/1.2 ? THANKS IN Advance Max
Very nice review. Quick, but nothing rushed, to the point and pretty complete. Next time just don't forget the bokeh and this is a perfect short review of a lens.
great video - thanks - I do have the Oly and I do have the EM1 and Em5 but I just really prefer and enjoy using my GX7's and GX8 more although there is no doubt about the IQ from the EM1 and EM5 - the EM5 collects dust as I hate the tiny and camped Display button on it and both are a pain to put in my bags and pull out due to the bit EVF hump - I much prefer a flat top Range Finder style :) I use my Oly 45mm F1.8 quite a bit and prefer it over my 50mm F1.8 Sony on my A6000 - but now that I know that the Pani 42.5 F1.7 with IS is even better yet still small and light and comes with a hood :) I think I need to put it on my shopping list soon - hope to remember to use your link - To me it is amazing how good the IQ is out of the Oly for the money so something a bit better for $396 is a given - I assume that at some point or if not already my GX8 can be in Dual mode with the new Pani -
Thanks again Max for an excellent review, which helped me decide for another lens :) You have helped me a lot during last year also in deciding for both my 5K imac and ASUS 4K monitor - thanks a lot for all these useful reviews on stuff :)
I feel like the only real reason there was to ever, in 2015-16, to buy the f1.2 was because it looks like a pro lens. I love my f1.7, but I'm not kidding myself. When I'm doing my videography job, and I'm hanging with photographers using big, pro, Nikon bodies, I know my primes look like baby camera gear. I'm not identified as a pro, and with the work I do in the crowds I'm in, it's unfortunate. I'm a video/photo dude at the local sports district who brings my GH4 to work because I love it, rather than using the prosumer stuff we have at work.
Ignore the other comments. I get it. I shot a Horse race with my Nikon Pro stuff 1 year and had switched to m4/3 by the race the next year, I got incredible shots and 4K video vs. the previous year but had to flash my "Official" 's badge sometimes to get into restricted places when I didn't have to when I carried the pro bodies. My client preferred the shots and was thrilled with getting video the second year so I will get over it. It is too bad ppl don't realize the size of the camera doesn't correlate to the image quality of the images. ( I got awesome low and high level shots with the flippy lcd I couldn't get the previous year.)
I'm not a pro by any stretch but I'll do an occasional paid job if the client knows they aren't getting Peter McKinnon. Anyway late last summer I hired a real pro to help me shoot a wedding. I walked around most of the event kind of scouting good vantage points and shooting on a Panasonic LX10 point and shoot while the pro did his thing. I could get a lot of shots because people didn't stop what they were doing when I walked up with such a tiny camera. Long story short, client was wowed by the 4k footage and sharp photos. They had no idea it was shot on a ~$500 camera. About half of the prints they ordered came from the 4k frame captures. Go figure.....
Great review Max! Love watching your videos :) I have the G7 and its such a great camera. I just got the Oly 1.8 and it takes beautiful pictures on the G7 body. Kinda bummed I didn't see this review before though because I think I would of opted for the Panasonic 42.5 1.7 instead!
Luke Kelly How much did you pay for it? Looks like Oly is discount the lens right now (Temporary discount). If you bought it for $400 maybe they can price match for you. If not, and your up for it you can return the Oly and get the Panasonic instead. (if you want).
For street video, can anyone recommend my pending purchase, which would be between either the Lumix GX85 body only, plus the 1.7 prime, or the Amazon special, which includes the 12mm-32mm 3.5f to 5.6f kit lens? Thank you for your experience.
Thanks for the review, a lot of useful info provided. I am about to buy the 1.7 Panasonic, hope it would be a great addition to the kit 12-60 kit lens. What would you recommend for a zoom lens in the same price category (for GX9)? Thanks
I tested the 42.5 1.7 and I love it. But I ended up with the olympus 45 1.8 together with a camera I bought and I like the 45 too so I dont buy the Pana for now :)
I'm really concerned with the quality of single samples of these lenses: I've seen the judgement changing between sharpness, vignetting and colour fringing between these two lenses, similarly to others lenses from the same producers (like the 25mm f:1.7), or Sigma Art lenses, which is not reassuring. In case of Olympus, BTW, your sample is made in Vietnam, mine is made in China, Others are made in Japan, and I wonder if quality control is really a strictly controlled parameter. A side by side I'd really like to see, and never did anywhere, is a comparison between different samples of the same model of lens, eventually built in different factories, as a way to check how loose the quality control is among the same brand.
Fantastic review Max. I read you review on Amazon for the f/1.7 lens, which led me to your YT review. I can't justify paying so much more for the Nocticron since the f/1.7 seems to hold its own. Thanks again for such great content.
the panasonic is 1/3 more expensive in uk. is it just ois in panasonic what makes it better than the olympus? is it worth extra cost if dont care about ois?
Thanks for the video. Any reason why Panasonic doesn't offer OIS on their 12mm, 15mm, and 25mm prime lenses? Is it not needed as much as those wider angles? I would still like OIS on those types of lenses for shooting video or does it not matter?
I own the Nocticron but may add this 42.5 f1.7 to my collection because of its size, sharpness, contrast, and price. It looks appealing in so many ways. Of course the Nocticron has the Best sharpness and Bokeh period of any lens in the Micro Four Thirds range.
I don't know what the deal is, but I recently bought an Olympus body try it out, and the 45mm Elmarit macro (which I got for around $500 from Japan) produces better photos than my more expensive Nocticron. Lots of CA w/Nocticron photos & video. Doesn't autofocus very fast... and it's slower (2.8)... but hot damn, it's gorgeous on that macro. I think perhaps Panasonics (I have a GH4) are set up to correct or better mate with the Panasonic made lenses. On Olympus, you get to see more of the raw lens quality, as they're not going to do Panasonic any favors in software. According to DXO, the 45mm Elmarit macro is one of the few lenses test that has 0 distortion. Doesn't explain the lack of CA, though, vs the Noctricon. Really don't know what that's about. But fine lenses are one thing I like to hang onto, even though I'll often let bodies go. Hope I can make the Nocticron work more, you know, Nocticron like on bodies besides the GH4. :)
The reason you think your F2.8 lens produces better photos may be because you are comparing it to the Nocticron at F1.2. All lenses look sharper when stepped down in aperture. The Nocticron shines because it is sharper than any other m43 lens wide open at such a large aperture. At F2.8 it should look even better. If you did compare the two lenses at F2.8 and thought the Elmarit looked noticeably better, then it's either a matter of taste or you maybe had a bad sample of the lens.
Amazing comparison! Thank you so much for making it! Well cut and on point all the time - thumbs up!! A minor thing that could have done your video even better would be to write something else on screen when comparing the videos. What I mean is this: When I see 3 names written e.g. @2:01 then it's not easily readible - too many similar numbers. I had to pause the video every time this came up. Instead I would have written Panasonic 1.2, Panasonic 1.7 and Olympus. :-) But amazing video! Very insightful! I was keen on the Olympus before seing this review, but your review leaned me a lot more to the Pan 1.7!
Really great review, well structured and it's very easy to listen to you. So after watching I'll probably buy the Panasonic 1.7, even though you get the olympus a good bit cheaper on ebay. One thing I would have wanted you to talk about and that's the bokeh since some people complained about that in the pana 1.7 lens.
+wotsn123 I could have mentioned it, and yes the 42.5 F1.2 is best, but not 4X as good. I know none of my clients would ever notice a difference, or care.
+Max Yuryev so you wouldn't call the pana 1.7 bokeh 'nervous'? that's what I read a couple of times but who knows maybe it's different from lens to lens
I use an Olympus 12-100 on my Panasonic Lumix DMC G9. I can update lens firmware using my camera, Olympus has a special download for Panasonic people. I expect that the stabilisation works as well.
I shooting images of bands playing at small clubs. Right now I have the 25mm f1,7 without image stabilisation and about half of my photos always turn out blurry. Will this lens take better photos? I have a GX1 and am a beginner.
Well its blurry because if your are photographing a moving subject you need to use atleast 1/125th shutter speed, and if they are dancing fast maybe even 1/250th. This is really hard under low light as you need to raise your iso high and the images will get really noisy, so you're choice either noisy or blurry. Realistically to get decent results you need a full frame where you'll get ok images as 6400iso and or use flash. This won't get you any better photos in that regard. Your best bet is use flash.
+Max Yuryev The this is that i use 1/125 shutter speed and my F1,7 25mm lens. Using flash is strictly forbidden when photographing a band in a club setting. I think I buy the lens and see how it turns out.
Hello Max, i need a little help. I have GH4 and G7 cameras and i bought Tamron 24-70 2.8 (canon) because of IS and good range for weddings. It's working perfect with Metabones speedbooster but that SB is mostly used on DJI RoninM with Tokina 11-16 for wider shot as i can get. I don't have another SB for Tamron so i bought cheaper Commlite adapter with IS support , but IS doesn't work, only with canon lenses it works .... Do you know any adapter which will work IS on Tamron 24-70 ? .. I do not want extra light or AF ... just need IS and Aperture control ... or is this Panasonic 42.5 F1.7 as good image quality as Tamron 24-70 ( how about bokeh , sharpness ) Should I consider to switch that Tamron for Panasonic ? .. Is the manual ring focusing nice and smooth? ... What would you do in my case? thank you so much for your advise :)
The 42.5 is a great lens but its different with the focal range. The focus ring won't be as good as its electronic. I haven't tried that combo so I can't say for sure but you could try this amzn.to/2hNlP6Z its a reputable brand is right in between the price of commlite and Metabones non speedbooster adapter.
thanks for this video. i purchased the 1.7 more confidently after watching it. I use it on GH4 and is now contemplating if i should return for the 45mm macro. i will mostly be using it for close ups of cupcakes etc. and full length portrait. do you think the 45 macro 2.8 can do the same thing but with the added macro? i am curious if the two will produce the same results for portrait work. thanks 😊
The 45mm Elmarit macro is one of the nicest lenses I've used of any system. Although I'm diversified in terms of cameras, it's the one lens I can I can't find an equivalent of in other systems. I can see having a m43 body forever just to to use this lens, unless I go nuts and buy a Leica SL with a $$$6k or Leica macro lens. It was (relative) cheap, too. About $500 from Japan. One of the few lenses with absolutely 0 distortion on DXO. A bit slow to autofocus, but perfect for manual, and I always get breathtaking photos & videos from it. Also works brilliantly on Olympus bodies, unlike my Nocticron for some reason, which for some bizarre reason exhibits too much CA on Oly bodies, but not necessarily on my GH4. Kinda weird.
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Would you recommend the 42.5mm or the 25mm lens if I want to start doing 4k Product Videos, using Photo box with artificial lighting, it can be as small as CPU to as big as Router or Playstation 4?
Or maybe one of the Zoom lenses like Olympus M.Zuiko digital ED 12-50mm 3.5-6.3 EZ ED MSC, it has Macro, power zoom and maybe it can workhorse to replace all lenses?
Right now I have the small power zoom 12-42 panasonic lens, its OK but I want something more quality and better suited for Product photography.
Great video, I don't think the Nocti F1.2 is weather sealed, which is disappointing for a $1,500+ lens on this platform.
you forgot the most important part... the test shots! Id love to see the difference in talking head and portrait photography between the 42.5 1.2 and the nikon with the 85mm 1.8
Consideration of bokeh should also be a factor especially when intended use is portraiture or flowers etc. For this reason I went for olympus lens as it has more rounded, less distracting bokeh than the 42.5 f1.7. Admittedly the Panasonic has near macro in its favour but I figured that's a job for another lens anyway. My top criteria was good enough sharpness wide open in the middle and decent bokeh. I think the search for razor sharp glass eliminates many lenses that have other qualities that when added up just give that unique look that is natural rather than clinical. I say this as a user of many cameras and owner of some very sharp glass. I fell back in love with my Canon 5D Mk1 despite having Sony A9 and A7R2..
Very good point. Just seen a video from Skyler King which compared the bokehs: the Oly showed lights as circular, the Pana was "jagged" (seemed to be showing the aperture blades?)
Yep, I've been using the Olympus for more than 10 years and a few days ago I got the Panasonic for 100€, a deal I couldn't pass. The Panasonic is indeed much sharper across the frame for landscapes but it definitely has more nervous and distracting bokeh compared to the Olympus. Both are very nice and I'll probably keep them both, it won't break the bank.
I would have loved it if you had also included the Panasonic/Leica 45mm 2.8.
the 1.2 doesnt have weather sealing! @9:49
I owned both Panasonic 42.5mm F1.7 and Panasonic 30mm Macro lenses. and the close up shots is so good for 42.5mm, i never needed to use my 30mm macro lens. also, couldnt find the review on your channel... and I have Olympus 25mm 1.8 and the autofocus on it is quiet good, but when i shoot videos for my G7, the noise of tracking is TERRIBLE! i think if you own a Panasonic cam, get all Lumix lenses...
Noctricon 42.5mm has had a couple of firmware updates - interested if this has fixed the micro jitters
Did you ever determine the answer to that question?
Now that Panasonic has IBIS in almost all of their camera bodies, these stabilized lenses allow for dual IS. The Panasonic 42.5 f/1.7 is more expensive then the Olympus, but it is also sharper, faster, and gets you the dual stabilization on newer bodies.
Stabilisation and camera shake - 42-45mm is a long lens on MFT, a telephoto, and is at the point where a lens needs stabilisation hand held. The unstabilised Olly works well on an Olympus back like the E-M5ii but on a Panasonic, it needs the tripod. Shutter rule of thumb to hand hold unstabilised, round up the focal length ~1/60s minimum. The Panasonic 42.4 f/1.2 will shake more because it is physically heavier. On a Panasonic back increase shutter speed until the red stabilisation lamp goes out
All of these lenses have good glass however a faster lens will always have better definition. A quick comparison I did found the adapted Chinon 50mm f/1.9 to be about the same as the Olympus 45mm f/1.8. Technically the magic number is focal length divided by aperture, so the Chinon 50mm f/1.4 (35.7) should be the same or better than the Panny 42.5 f/1.2 (35.4), it is certainly better than the Olly 45mm. Chinon were similar to Pentax but with even better glass, but of course they adapt as all-manual.
Great job.
I have the 1.2. I was wondering about the diff to 1.7.
Il keep my 1.2. Love it for various reasons. But that extra speed really helps.
And the smooth OOF areas are had to beat.
This video answered several questions I had on my mind about MFT lenses.
Thanks a bunch, Max.
Great video. Just purchased the Panasonic 42.5 f1.2 for my GX8. Found a great deal on eBay for $975
does your have the micro jitter when taking video that max was talking about?
Great job! Your reviews are one of the best I've seen. Very to the point with excellent audio and editing.
Regarding the micro jitter, it was an issue with Pana 12-35 for quite a while. However they came up with firmware update which fixed the issue (lens update, not the body). I guess they did the same for 42.5 1.2 but you need to update it.
the 12-35 never had jitter. it was always the best for video out of all of them. you're probably thinking of the 35-100
Good to know. I'm looking at the 42.5 and the micro jitter is scary.
If your GH4 is not autofocusing reliably during video, you have set it up wrong or perhaps it needs the firmware update. Refocus in video is deliberately slower for smooth transitions (and less audible noise) but the main trick is to keep the focus point (spot) on the subject. Fwiw I got the G7 as the GH4's B-cam. But the point is the GH4 can and will follow focus better than the G7.
Depending where you're showing it, 4K can be a waste of milk, FHD is all that's needed for the interweb, 4K just slows download. If it's not being shown
on a 4K screen (Ultra-HD) then it has to be downsized which causes dropouts.
Clear and concise comparison, I have just purchased the Lumix 42.5mm f1.7 lens and I'm looking forward to using it over the Christmas holiday.
Trouble with the review is your only talking about the 3 lenses on a panasonic body,ive got an olympus pen so the image stabilliser stuff and auto-focus speed comments dont apply.
I would guess the olympus lens focus speed on an olympus body is quicker than the panasonic lenses but i will have to look elsewhere for that info.
The trouble with your comment is that you don't have a Panasonic camera ;)
Great review exactly what I was looking for answered all my questions, and your demo video was really well shot and demonstrated the differences excellently. Thanks so much you are
one of the most comprehensive professional reviewers that I follow.
Would the 1.7 or 1.2 be better at a dark concert but spotlight illuminating the local artist/s? No flash allowed.
Great video Max! I'm glad Panasonic is making better and better lenses and their getting so good at it that Leica has decided to let Panasonic make all their new SL Series lenses. If they are good enough for Leica they are good enough for me.
bought the 42.5mm f1.7 for my g7/g70. absolutely satisfied
no lense plastic lens hood is an insulting slap to the customer.
You can get really cheap metal hoods online, I had no problem with the Olly 45mm f1.8 at all.
Personally I prefer plastic lens hoods as they actually protect the lens. The metal ones transfer too much energy to the lens in my opinion. Plastic lens hoods have saved me a few times. :)
Great review. The Leica panny 42.5 F1.2 is £765 on eBay at present. A very tempting proposition indeed. I nearly pulled the trigger on it today, however, I have the Olympus 45mm F1.8 already, and if you use a tripod with a GH4 the images you get can be stellar. You have helped me save my money and come to my senses. Thanks, Max.
Thank you for the review. I am impressed with the 42.5m f1.7. I have an olympus pen E2 camera, an olympus 17mm f2.8 and a 40-150mm f4.0-5.6 zoom. I am debating whether to get the olympus 45mm f1.8, olympus 25mm f1.8, the panasonic leica 25mm f1.4 or this 42.5mm f1.7 to complement my existing lenses. Hope to hear your comments.
Hock Pheng Low 25mm for general all purpose high quality everyday use. The 45 or 42.5 from either manufacturer if you like the 45mm focal length when using your current zoom lens but also want better image quality and low light capability in a much smaller package. Both the 25 and 45 can do portraits as well
Nice review Max. I'm sold on the 42.5 1.7. Can't go wrong.
I'd be curious to hear how the Sigma 56mm 1.4 stacks up to these lenses
Thanks for great review
I think i would buy the panasonic 42.5 /1.7 for my GH4
I have the Olympus lens but it is cropped in so much, what can I do?
Thanks so much for the excellent review! You guys sure do put in a lot of work for us regular folks! You reinforced my thoughts about the Pany 42.5 f/1.7 lens. I simply love mine.
Can you please tell me where to find the reviews on the Panasonic 30mm lens and the review on the Panasonic G7 that you mentioned in the above video? I'd love to hear what you have to say, esp the 30mm macro. I had that on my list of wanted lenses. Thx!!!!
Até you sure.the Panasonic 42.5mm 1.7 is better than the Olympus?
Hey Max,
Currently I have a 14-140 on my G7 and want a extension to a faster lens for indoor, garden, portret and reports.
I like your advice.
Thanks in advance!
Henk
Take the Panasonic 100-300mm. It has a nice pricetag for the very good pictures. If you need more range go for the 100-400mm. If you need it faster go for Panasonic 200mm or if money is no point Olympus 300mm
The Nocticron doesn't have weather sealing , u got that wrong 9:49
thankyou! im a bmpcc4k user, and now i make my opinion on the 1.7 lence. cause much cheaper ,much lighter and better OIS system. but the main point's paying 4X price to get the 1.2 lence to get the little upgrade is not really worthy (for me it's a lot money)
Thx Max. I use the GH4 and wanted a prime that was fast. Your video (watched several times) helped my shopping choice using comparisons so directly. I was surprised thinking the f1.2 would walk away with it. My new f1.7 is on the way. Again, like with the Apple iMac 5K, you were a big help.
+Michael McNulty Glad to help Michael!
thank you. I was thinking of getting Olympus 45mm. now getting 42.5mm 1.7. I have g7.
Hi! Since this is for MFT system, aren't these lenses equivalent to ~80mm FF? I thought that portrait lens were ~50mm (ie: 25mm lens in mft system). Thank you
Hi :) I just received mine. Did you notice that something "moves" inside ? Probably the stab, but I'm surprised how much I can feel it, just by grabing it (no shaking of course) Thanks
Nice review, but your website link is down so I couldn't see any samples..?
Thank you so much I just got the m5 mark ii on discount and picked up Olly 45 and was wavering since I wanted to get great portraits and food photography.
Would like to ask your thoughts Max. I currently have a T6i and few lenses and wanted to keep it for ease of video as main camera and Olly as B roll but am considering replacing 6i with the G7 that's heavily discounted now for price and get the 4k but I love my canon lenses and know i can use Olly lenses there too. What your thoughts?
I have watched one more review of the f1.2 Nocticorn by Darren Miles where he states that these lens is NOT weather sealed (which is pretty much ridiculous at this price) and you're saying at 9:49 that it is weather sealed, so where is the truth?
Bravo to Panasonic for including power o.i.s, thus providing us (consumers) a fantastic portrait lens. I bought one this last xmas, absolutely no regrets!
With that said, that Leica is sweet. The 45mm without a lens-hood, c'mon Oly.
Panasonic, please keep making products that provide value to consumers! Max, nice review sir.
Hey Max. I own the a7iii but i love the IBIS of the GH5. Would it be crazy to own both? And what brand do you use for your videos?
Excellent review Max. Thank you. Would you see any problems in using the Panasonic F1.7 on my Olympus OMD M1? I presume I would turn off the OIS on the lens.
I use an Olympus 12-100 on my Panasonic G9. I see no reason to turn off stabilisation in my lens or yours.
How about focus ring smoothness? Which is the smoothest and which is the worse?
Slow down Maxx. This is not a boring subject. We love learning about the lenses.
Hello Max,
Can't find that review for Lumix 30mm 2.8 on your channel. Where can I watch it?
Thanks.
PS: hope you do more reviews on Panasonic cameras and lens in the future.
Hey guys russian rider here 😭
Your first Video on the fz-07 was the First Time i have Seen you on UA-cam. Now i am watching all of your Camera Videos 😄
Hey max great video comparing these lenses. I don't really know the difference in lenses yet as I'm still learning, I recently purchased g7 and would using it mostly for UA-cam reviews. I'm intrested in upgrading the kit lens it came with and I'm loving your preference on the Panasonic lens 1st lens 1.8 however would you think this would be good for viewing close up tech shots and about 10 feet shoots. I don't really know what MM means for lenses
If you're shooting real close up, you will probably want a macro lens (depending on how close). You can usually get close enough with either the 42.5/45 for most normal work, so it just depends on what you're doing.
mm = millimeters and helps tell you what the viewing angle, compression, and other qualities might be on the lens itself. Higher MM number = more telephoto it will be, lower MM number = wider. the 45mm is technically in the "normal" range but behaves on a native m43 camera like a 90mm due to the crop factor on M43 sensors (like the G7).
I strongly recommend renting or borrowing any lenses before you buy.
Also, if you are shooting macro/close up work, you can adapt an old 50mm lens (like a canon fd 50mm f1.8) that costs 30 dollars using a 20 dollar adapter and it will behave good enough for what you are doing. 50 dollars total VS 350+, although you will be sacrificing any autofocus or OIS, however I highly doubt OIS is necessary if you are using a tripod.
I have a Director of Photographer friend who uses both Zeiss and old Canon FD glass on her Red Dragon, so yes the image quality for video holds up today.
Nice Video, thank you! But what about the Reviews of the 30mm Macro Lens and the G7 you talked about? I can´t find them on your channel!?..
In the UK the price difference is huge at the moment. Today I can buy the Olympus for £149 - claim £30 back from Olympus - and have it for £119. The Panasonic 42.5 is £349. Not a long way off 1/3 of the price. That complicates matters!
+chirpybee I Guess they had to drop the price to make it more worth it. If you don't need the image stabilization then for that price go for the Olympus.
How do you like the Roland reference speakers. I'm looking at buying a pair of reference speakers and haven't heard much about the Roland's.
I'm really worried of my choice in camera. I believe I'm gonna go with the Lumix G7 strictly due to it's price vs what it offers though I'm a bit worried about the low MP count for future proofing it as a daily shooter over newer smartphones. Furthermore I'm scared it won't be good video since I strictly film whilst moving and having it handheld and it doesn't offer any IBIS but it certainly seems like the lens stabilizer is quite decent and might actually make it a better choice over the olympus m10 mark II
+ScrattleGG Hey! I know I didn't make this video so take my advice with a grain of salt.
Regarding the MP count: it matters a lot less than they'll make you believe. What does matter is sensor size, and any camera will have smartphones beat there. It's not about how many MP it captures, but what the MP contain.
Regarding the G7: I was in the same situation as you. Which is why I'm happy that I waited, because Panasonic is releasing the GX85 THIS WEEK, which is a GX7 successor. It has 5-axis body image stabilization, and although it's a bit more expensive than what G7 sells for these days (about $150 more, MSRP), I think the IBIS alone is worth the admission price.
A lot of people are having a downer on the GX85 for video because it doesn't include a mic input, but anybody who's REALLY serious about video uses off-board recorders with better pre-amps, so I never understood the issue myself.
The GX85 is much more compact, and while it does lack an extra dial and a couple of shooting modes over the G7, you get better image quality in stills with a removed anti aliasing filter.
So, swings and roundabouts.
I'm buying the GX85 after thinking about the G7 long and hard (moving away from Canon APS-C). I hope my (many) hours of research can help you a bit.
Thanks just the info I was looking for. Need a part time macro small carry around lens for my GM5.
??? MAX...You Never Said Which Of You're 2 Panasonic Lens ""FOCUSED CLOSER THEN ONE FOOT?"" The 1.7?? OR The Top DAWG Noticron F/1.2 ? THANKS IN Advance Max
Hi Max, great review. I tried to download the footage but there is a database error. Is the footage still available? Thanks
wonder would GX8 make handheld video even more stable?
One of the best reviews i have ever seen! Really good Max, thanks a lot.
+Coskun Yilmaz Glad to help!
Hey Max, will the Panasonic 1.7 will do a good low light job on the GH5??
Max, thanks for this great review! Side note, what computer system is that on your desk?
Hey Max, you're just awesome. Love your content and your utmost honesty in your reviews
Very nice review. Quick, but nothing rushed, to the point and pretty complete. Next time just don't forget the bokeh and this is a perfect short review of a lens.
+Serenoj69 Thanks!
Can either of you answer the bokeh question? I'd love to know how much better the bokeh is with the Nocticron 1.2 vs. panasonic 1.7 is.
great video - thanks - I do have the Oly and I do have the EM1 and Em5 but I just really prefer and enjoy using my GX7's and GX8 more although there is no doubt about the IQ from the EM1 and EM5 - the EM5 collects dust as I hate the tiny and camped Display button on it and both are a pain to put in my bags and pull out due to the bit EVF hump - I much prefer a flat top Range Finder style :) I use my Oly 45mm F1.8 quite a bit and prefer it over my 50mm F1.8 Sony on my A6000 - but now that I know that the Pani 42.5 F1.7 with IS is even better yet still small and light and comes with a hood :) I think I need to put it on my shopping list soon - hope to remember to use your link -
To me it is amazing how good the IQ is out of the Oly for the money so something a bit better for $396 is a given - I assume that at some point or if not already my GX8 can be in Dual mode with the new Pani -
Thanks again Max for an excellent review, which helped me decide for another lens :)
You have helped me a lot during last year also in deciding for both my 5K imac and ASUS 4K monitor - thanks a lot for all these useful reviews on stuff :)
+EzzenzDK Glad to be of help! :)
I feel like the only real reason there was to ever, in 2015-16, to buy the f1.2 was because it looks like a pro lens. I love my f1.7, but I'm not kidding myself. When I'm doing my videography job, and I'm hanging with photographers using big, pro, Nikon bodies, I know my primes look like baby camera gear. I'm not identified as a pro, and with the work I do in the crowds I'm in, it's unfortunate. I'm a video/photo dude at the local sports district who brings my GH4 to work because I love it, rather than using the prosumer stuff we have at work.
Adam Roy this sounds like a penis problem
You care about size more than your productivity?
Ignore the other comments. I get it. I shot a Horse race with my Nikon Pro stuff 1 year and had switched to m4/3 by the race the next year, I got incredible shots and 4K video vs. the previous year but had to flash my "Official" 's badge sometimes to get into restricted places when I didn't have to when I carried the pro bodies. My client preferred the shots and was thrilled with getting video the second year so I will get over it. It is too bad ppl don't realize the size of the camera doesn't correlate to the image quality of the images. ( I got awesome low and high level shots with the flippy lcd I couldn't get the previous year.)
I'm not a pro by any stretch but I'll do an occasional paid job if the client knows they aren't getting Peter McKinnon. Anyway late last summer I hired a real pro to help me shoot a wedding. I walked around most of the event kind of scouting good vantage points and shooting on a Panasonic LX10 point and shoot while the pro did his thing. I could get a lot of shots because people didn't stop what they were doing when I walked up with such a tiny camera. Long story short, client was wowed by the 4k footage and sharp photos. They had no idea it was shot on a ~$500 camera. About half of the prints they ordered came from the 4k frame captures. Go figure.....
Great review Max! Love watching your videos :)
I have the G7 and its such a great camera. I just got the Oly 1.8 and it takes beautiful pictures on the G7 body. Kinda bummed I didn't see this review before though because I think I would of opted for the Panasonic 42.5 1.7 instead!
Luke Kelly How much did you pay for it? Looks like Oly is discount the lens right now (Temporary discount). If you bought it for $400 maybe they can price match for you. If not, and your up for it you can return the Oly and get the Panasonic instead. (if you want).
Hi Max, I have g80 body with 12-60 bundle lense. I think it is not sharp for figure regarding picture. is this 42.5 mm 1.7 will be good?
For street video, can anyone recommend my pending purchase, which would be between either the Lumix GX85 body only, plus the 1.7 prime, or the Amazon special, which includes the 12mm-32mm 3.5f to 5.6f kit lens? Thank you for your experience.
I wish my Olympus 45mm would focus at 1.5ft. I can't get it to focus any closer than 2.5ft. That makes a big difference for food photography.
How about bokeh quality? There's a real difference?
Thanks for the review, a lot of useful info provided. I am about to buy the 1.7 Panasonic, hope it would be a great addition to the kit 12-60 kit lens.
What would you recommend for a zoom lens in the same price category (for GX9)? Thanks
I tested the 42.5 1.7 and I love it. But I ended up with the olympus 45 1.8 together with a camera I bought and I like the 45 too so I dont buy the Pana for now :)
I'm really concerned with the quality of single samples of these lenses: I've seen the judgement changing between sharpness, vignetting and colour fringing between these two lenses, similarly to others lenses from the same producers (like the 25mm f:1.7), or Sigma Art lenses, which is not reassuring. In case of Olympus, BTW, your sample is made in Vietnam, mine is made in China, Others are made in Japan, and I wonder if quality control is really a strictly controlled parameter.
A side by side I'd really like to see, and never did anywhere, is a comparison between different samples of the same model of lens, eventually built in different factories, as a way to check how loose the quality control is among the same brand.
Fantastic review Max. I read you review on Amazon for the f/1.7 lens, which led me to your YT review. I can't justify paying so much more for the Nocticron since the f/1.7 seems to hold its own. Thanks again for such great content.
the panasonic is 1/3 more expensive in uk. is it just ois in panasonic what makes it better than the olympus? is it worth extra cost if dont care about ois?
133faceman The Panasonic has a much closer minimum focal distance. But you can buy a used Olympus 45mm f1.8 for £130/140.
Hey Max did you ever compare the 25mm 1.4 vs 1.7? How do you think they compare? Thanks
No sorry, I do know the 25mm 1.4 is excellent though.
Thanks for the video. Any reason why Panasonic doesn't offer OIS on their 12mm, 15mm, and 25mm prime lenses? Is it not needed as much as those wider angles? I would still like OIS on those types of lenses for shooting video or does it not matter?
Either to keep them small and light, or they know they will have in body image stabilization on all of their bodies soon.
Thanks, that makes sense.
eqvideo The GH5 has in body image stabilization! It's pretty impressive what they can do!
That was an awesome review man. Helped me make up my mind!
Thanks so much for this. I'm going to go with the Panasonic.
Great comparison! Thank you!
I own the Nocticron but may add this 42.5 f1.7 to my collection because of its size, sharpness, contrast, and price. It looks appealing in so many ways. Of course the Nocticron has the Best sharpness and Bokeh period of any lens in the Micro Four Thirds range.
I don't know what the deal is, but I recently bought an Olympus body try it out, and the 45mm Elmarit macro (which I got for around $500 from Japan) produces better photos than my more expensive Nocticron. Lots of CA w/Nocticron photos & video. Doesn't autofocus very fast... and it's slower (2.8)... but hot damn, it's gorgeous on that macro. I think perhaps Panasonics (I have a GH4) are set up to correct or better mate with the Panasonic made lenses. On Olympus, you get to see more of the raw lens quality, as they're not going to do Panasonic any favors in software. According to DXO, the 45mm Elmarit macro is one of the few lenses test that has 0 distortion. Doesn't explain the lack of CA, though, vs the Noctricon. Really don't know what that's about. But fine lenses are one thing I like to hang onto, even though I'll often let bodies go. Hope I can make the Nocticron work more, you know, Nocticron like on bodies besides the GH4. :)
The reason you think your F2.8 lens produces better photos may be because you are comparing it to the Nocticron at F1.2. All lenses look sharper when stepped down in aperture. The Nocticron shines because it is sharper than any other m43 lens wide open at such a large aperture. At F2.8 it should look even better.
If you did compare the two lenses at F2.8 and thought the Elmarit looked noticeably better, then it's either a matter of taste or you maybe had a bad sample of the lens.
Thanks. This is very informative. Can i use that 42.5mm for my olympus pen camera?
Yes of course.
Were the establishing shots just animated photos or actually some video pans?
+Zane Taylor Video. You can tell because of perspective change, well I guess you could cut the photos to try to do that but its video :)
Thank you for the review. Very informative, and I now know what to buy.
Hey max, great video. Btw the second BH link doesn't direct me to the right lens.
Simi Tometi Thanks! Fixed!
Amazing comparison! Thank you so much for making it! Well cut and on point all the time - thumbs up!! A minor thing that could have done your video even better would be to write something else on screen when comparing the videos. What I mean is this: When I see 3 names written e.g. @2:01 then it's not easily readible - too many similar numbers. I had to pause the video every time this came up. Instead I would have written Panasonic 1.2, Panasonic 1.7 and Olympus. :-) But amazing video! Very insightful! I was keen on the Olympus before seing this review, but your review leaned me a lot more to the Pan 1.7!
Thanks for watching and for the tips!
This is an excellent presentation 👍🏾
Great review Max!
Really great review, well structured and it's very easy to listen to you. So after watching I'll probably buy the Panasonic 1.7, even though you get the olympus a good bit cheaper on ebay. One thing I would have wanted you to talk about and that's the bokeh since some people complained about that in the pana 1.7 lens.
+wotsn123 I could have mentioned it, and yes the 42.5 F1.2 is best, but not 4X as good. I know none of my clients would ever notice a difference, or care.
+Max Yuryev so you wouldn't call the pana 1.7 bokeh 'nervous'? that's what I read a couple of times but who knows maybe it's different from lens to lens
Great review!
I have an Olympus OMD 10 mk ii.I have ibis. will I be able to benefit from the OIS from Panasonic Lenses ? so I can have 5+2 axis.?
I use an Olympus 12-100 on my Panasonic Lumix DMC G9. I can update lens firmware using my camera, Olympus has a special download for Panasonic people. I expect that the stabilisation works as well.
Hey do you know what typeface that is you used at 5:35?
What a cool review subscribed
I shooting images of bands playing at small clubs. Right now I have the 25mm f1,7 without image stabilisation and about half of my photos always turn out blurry. Will this lens take better photos? I have a GX1 and am a beginner.
Well its blurry because if your are photographing a moving subject you need to use atleast 1/125th shutter speed, and if they are dancing fast maybe even 1/250th. This is really hard under low light as you need to raise your iso high and the images will get really noisy, so you're choice either noisy or blurry. Realistically to get decent results you need a full frame where you'll get ok images as 6400iso and or use flash. This won't get you any better photos in that regard. Your best bet is use flash.
+Max Yuryev The this is that i use 1/125 shutter speed and my F1,7 25mm lens. Using flash is strictly forbidden when photographing a band in a club setting. I think I buy the lens and see how it turns out.
Thanks so much for this review! You just convinced me not to get the Nocticron & get the cheaper f1.7 instead! Saving me 1K or more :)
Hi Max, how is the bokeh?
Hello Max, i need a little help. I have GH4 and G7 cameras and i bought Tamron 24-70 2.8 (canon) because of IS and good range for weddings. It's working perfect with Metabones speedbooster but that SB is mostly used on DJI RoninM with Tokina 11-16 for wider shot as i can get. I don't have another SB for Tamron so i bought cheaper Commlite adapter with IS support , but IS doesn't work, only with canon lenses it works .... Do you know any adapter which will work IS on Tamron 24-70 ? .. I do not want extra light or AF ... just need IS and Aperture control ... or is this Panasonic 42.5 F1.7 as good image quality as Tamron 24-70 ( how about bokeh , sharpness ) Should I consider to switch that Tamron for Panasonic ? .. Is the manual ring focusing nice and smooth? ... What would you do in my case? thank you so much for your advise :)
The 42.5 is a great lens but its different with the focal range. The focus ring won't be as good as its electronic. I haven't tried that combo so I can't say for sure but you could try this amzn.to/2hNlP6Z its a reputable brand is right in between the price of commlite and Metabones non speedbooster adapter.
thanks Max you really did a good job
thanks for this video. i purchased the 1.7 more confidently after watching it. I use it on GH4 and is now contemplating if i should return for the 45mm macro. i will mostly be using it for close ups of cupcakes etc. and full length portrait. do you think the 45 macro 2.8 can do the same thing but with the added macro? i am curious if the two will produce the same results for portrait work. thanks 😊
+indulge with mimi I haven't used that one actually, but the 30MM macro is a great lens and will be easier to have more in focus. amzn.to/1oEqU17
+Max Yuryev Thx i didn't know that one existed!
The 45mm Elmarit macro is one of the nicest lenses I've used of any system. Although I'm diversified in terms of cameras, it's the one lens I can I can't find an equivalent of in other systems. I can see having a m43 body forever just to to use this lens, unless I go nuts and buy a Leica SL with a $$$6k or Leica macro lens. It was (relative) cheap, too. About $500 from Japan. One of the few lenses with absolutely 0 distortion on DXO. A bit slow to autofocus, but perfect for manual, and I always get breathtaking photos & videos from it. Also works brilliantly on Olympus bodies, unlike my Nocticron for some reason, which for some bizarre reason exhibits too much CA on Oly bodies, but not necessarily on my GH4. Kinda weird.
Thanks a lot. You really help me solve my problem.
Awesome comparison.
Tomas Villegas Thanks Tomas!